History vs. Sigmund Freud - Todd Dufresne

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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Ivana Korom
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Working in Vienna at the turn of the 20th century,
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Radeći u Beču početkom XX veka,
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he began his career as a neurologist
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započeo je karijeru kao neurolog
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before pioneering the discipline of psychoanalysis.
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pre nego što je pokrenuo novu disciplinu psihoanalizu.
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He proposed that people are motivated by unconscious desires
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Predložio je da su ljudi motivisani podsvesnim žudnjama
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and repressed memories,
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i potisnutim sećanjima,
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and their problems can be addressed
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i da se njihovi problemi mogu rešavati
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by making those motivations conscious through talk therapy.
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iznoseći te motivacije u svesno stanje kroz terapiju razgovorom.
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His influence towers above that of all other psychologists in the public eye.
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Njegov uticaj u očima javnosti zasenjuje sve ostale psihologe.
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But was Sigmund Freud right about human nature?
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Međutim, da li je Sigmund Frojd bio u pravu u pogledu ljudske prirode?
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And were his methods scientific?
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I da li su njegove metode bile naučne?
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Order, order. Today on the stand we have… Dad?
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Mir, mir. Današnji optuženi je... Tata?
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Ahem, no, your honor.
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Hm, ne, časni sude.
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This is Doctor Sigmund Freud,
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Ovo je doktor Sigmund Frojd,
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one of the most innovative thinkers in the history of psychology.
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jedan od najinovativnijih mislilaca u istoriji psihologije.
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An egomaniac who propagated pseudoscientific theories.
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Egomanijak koji je širio pseudonaučne teorije.
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Well, which is it?
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Pa, šta je od to dvoje?
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He tackled issues medicine refused to address.
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Bavio se pitanjima kojima medicina nije htela da se bavi.
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Freud’s private practice treated women
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Frojdova privatna praksa je lečila žene
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who suffered from what was called hysteria at the time,
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koje su patile od nečega što se u to vreme nazivalo histerijom
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and their complaints hadn’t been taken seriously at all.
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i njihove žalbe uopšte nisu shvatane ozbiljno.
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From the women with depression he treated initially
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Prvobitno lečeći žene sa depresijom,
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to World War I veterans with PTSD,
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zatim veterane Prvog svetskog rata sa posttraumatskim sindromom,
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Freud’s talking cure worked,
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Frojdova terapija razgovorm je delovala,
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and the visibility he gave his patients forced the medical establishment
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a pažnja koju je pružio svojim pacijentima je naterala medicinski establišment
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to acknowledge their psychological disorders were real.
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da prepozna da su njihovi psihološki poremećaji stvarni.
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He certainly didn’t help all his patients.
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Zasigurno nije pomogao svim svojim pacijentima.
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Freud was convinced that our behavior is shaped by
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Frojd je bio ubeđen da naše ponašanje oblikuju
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unconscious urges and repressed memories.
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podsvesni nagoni i potisnuta sećanja.
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He invented baseless unconscious or irrational drivers
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Izumeo je neosnovane podsvesne tj. iracionalne porive
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behind the behavior of trauma survivors— and caused real harm.
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koji stoje iza ponašanja ljudi s traumom i uzrokovao je istinsku štetu.
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How’s that?
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He misrepresented some of his most famous case studies,
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Kako?
Pogrešno je predstavio neke od svojih najčuvenijih studija slučaja,
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claiming his treatment had cured patients when in fact they had gotten worse.
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tvrdeći da je njegov tretman izlečio pacijente, iako im je zapravo bilo gore.
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Later therapists influenced by his theories
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Kasniji terapeuti su pod uticajem njegovih teroija
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coaxed their patients into "recovering"
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navodili svoje pacijente da „povrate”
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supposedly repressed memories of childhood abuse that never happened.
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navodno potisnuta sećanja na zlostavljanje iz detinjstva koje se nikad nije desilo.
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Lives and families were torn apart.
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Životi i porodice su uništeni zbog toga.
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You can’t blame Freud for later misapplications of his work—
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Ne možeš da kriviš Frojda zbog kasnijih pogrešnih primena njegovog dela -
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that would be projecting.
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radilo bi se o učitavanju.
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Plenty of his ideas were harmful without any misapplication.
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Gomila njegovih ideja su bile štetne i bez pogrešnih primena.
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He viewed homosexuality as a developmental glitch.
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Posmatrao je homoseksualnost kao razvojnu grešku.
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He coined the term penis envy—
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Skovao je izraz „zavist za penisom” -
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meaning women are haunted for life by their lack of penises.
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u značenju da su žene trajno proklete zbog nedostatka penisa.
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Freud was a product of his era.
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Frojd je bio žrtva svog vremena.
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Yes, some of the specifics were flawed,
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Da, neke pojedinosti su bile manjkave,
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but he created a new space for future scientists to explore,
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ali stvorio je novi prostor za buduće naučnike da istražuju,
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investigate, and build upon.
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ispituju i nadograđuju.
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Modern therapy techniques that millions of people rely on
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Savremene terapijske tehnike na koje se milioni ljudi oslanjaju
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came out of the work he started with psychoanalysis.
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su proizašle iz dela koje je on započeo psihoanalizom.
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And today everyone knows there’s an unconscious—
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I danas svako zna za postojanje podsvesti -
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that idea was popularized Freud.
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tu ideju je popularizovao Frojd.
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Psychologists today only believe in a “cognitive unconscious,”
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Današnji psiholozi jedino veruju u „kognitivnu podsvest”,
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the fact that you aren’t aware of everything going on at a given moment.
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činjenicu da nismo svesni svega što se dešava u bilo kom trenutku.
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Freud took this idea way too far, ascribing deep meaning to everything.
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Frojd je otišao predaleko sa ovom idejom, pripisujući svemu dublje značenje.
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He built his theories on scientific ideas that were outdated even in his own time,
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Gradio je svoje teorije na naučnim idejama koje su bile zastarele i u njegovo vreme,
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not just by today’s standards—
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a ne samo po današnjim merilima -
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for example, he thought individual psychology
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na primer, smatrao je da je individualna psihologija
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is derived from the biological inheritance of events in ancient history.
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proizašla iz biološkog nasleđa događaja iz drevne istorije.
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And I mean ancient—  like the Ice Age or the killing of Moses.
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Pri čemu pod drevnim mislim - poput ledenog doba ili ubistva Mojsija.
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Freud and his closest allies actually believed these prehistorical traumas
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Frojd i njegovi najbliži saradnici zapravo su verovali da ove praistorijske traume
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had ongoing impacts on human psychology.
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imaju trajan uticaj na ljudsku psihologiju.
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He thought that the phase of cold indifference to sexuality
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Smatrao je da je faza hladne nezainteresovanosti za seksualnost
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during pubescence was literally an echo of the Ice Age.
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tokom predadolescentskog uzrasta bukvalno odraz ledenog doba.
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With fantastical beliefs like these, how can we take him seriously?
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Uz ovako fantastična ubeđenja, kako da ga shvatimo ozbiljno?
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Any renowned thinker from centuries past
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Svi cenjeni mislioci iz prošlih vekova
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has ideas that seem fantastical by today’s standards,
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imaju ideje koje se čine fantastičnim po današnjim merilima,
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but we can’t discount their influence on this basis.
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ali ne možemo na osnovu toga da im umanjimo značaj.
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Freud was an innovator linking ideas across many fields.
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Frojd je bio inovator, koji je povezivao ideje iz raznih oblasti.
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His concepts have become everyday terms
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Njegovi koncepti su postali svakidašnji izrazi
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that shape how we understand and talk about our own experiences.
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koji oblikuju to kako razumemo i govorimo o našim sopstvenim iskustvima.
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The Oedipus complex? Ego and id? Defense mechanisms? Death wishes?
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Edipov kompleks? Ego i id? Odbrambeni mehanizam? Nagon smrti?
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All Freud.
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Sve je to Frojd.
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But Freud didn’t present himself as a social theorist—
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Frojd se nije predstavljao kao teoretičar društva -
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he insisted that his work was scientific.
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insistirao je da je njegov rad nauka.
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Are you saying he… repressed inconvenient facts?
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Da li govoriš da je... potiskivao neprikladne činjenice?
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Freud’s theories were unfalsifiable.
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Frojdove teorije je bilo nemoguće opovrgnuti.
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Wait, so you’re saying he was right?
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Čekaj, kažeš da je bio u pravu?
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No, his ideas were framed so that there’s no way to empirically verify them.
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Ne, njegove ideje su formulisane tako da nije bilo moguće da se empirijski potvrde.
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Freud didn’t even necessarily believe in the psychoanalysis he was peddling.
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Frojd nije čak nužno ni verovao u psihoanalizu koju je promovisao.
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He was pessimistic about the impact of therapy.
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Bio je pesimističan u pogledu uticaja terapije.
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What! I think I need to lie down!
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Sačekaj! Mislim da moram da prilegnem!
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Many of Sigmund Freud’s ideas don’t hold up to modern science,
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Mnoge ideje Sigmunda Frojda su neodržive u savremenoj nauci,
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and his clinical practices don’t meet today’s ethical standards.
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a njegove kliničke prakse nisu u skladu sa današnjim moralnim standardima.
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At the same time, he sparked a revolution in psychology and society,
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Istovremeno, pokrenuo je revoluciju u psihologiji i društvu
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and created a vocabulary for discussing emotion.
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i stvorio je rečnik za raspravljanje o emocijama.
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Freud made his share of mistakes.
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Frojd je napravio niz grešaka.
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But is a thinker responsible for how subsequent generations
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Međutim, da li je mislilac odgovoran za to kako će buduće generacije
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put their ideas to use?
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da primenjuju njegove ideje?
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Do they deserve the blame, credit, or redemption
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Da li im pripada krivica, zasluga ili iskupljenje
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when we put history on trial?
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kada stavimo istoriju na suđenje?
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