How we can end sexual harassment at work | Gretchen Carlson

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譯者: Lilian Chiu 審譯者: Coco Shen
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"All I wanted was a much-deserved promotion,
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「我所想要的, 只不過是我應得的升遷,
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and he told me to 'Get up on the desk
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而他對我說:『坐到桌上,
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and spread 'em.'"
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把腳打開。』」
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"All the men in my office wrote down on a piece of paper
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「我辦公室中的所有男性, 在一張紙上寫下了
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the sexual favors that I could do for them.
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我能提供他們的性服務。
00:27
All I had asked for was an office with a window."
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我所要求的,只不過 是有窗子的辦公室。」
00:32
"I asked for his advice about how I could get a bill out of committee;
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「我問他意見,請教要如何 讓委員會通過法案;
00:36
he asked me if I brought my kneepads."
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他卻問我有沒有帶護膝。」
00:41
Those are just a few of the horrific stories
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這些只是我過去一年
從女性聽來的駭人故事的其中幾個,
00:44
that I heard from women over the last year,
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00:46
as I've been investigating workplace sexual harassment.
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那段時間我在調查 工作場所的性騷擾。
00:50
And what I found out
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而我發現,
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is that it's an epidemic across the world.
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這是個全球皆然的現象。
00:56
It's a horrifying reality for millions of women,
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這是數百萬女性 要面對的駭人現實,
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when all they want to do every day
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當她們所想做的
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is go to work.
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不過是每天上班。
01:04
Sexual harassment doesn't discriminate.
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性騷擾沒有歧視。
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You can wear a skirt,
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你可能是穿裙子、
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hospital scrubs,
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醫院制服、
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army fatigues.
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軍隊制服。
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You can be young or old,
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你可能年輕或年長,
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married or single,
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已婚或單身,
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black or white.
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是黑人或白人。
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You can be a Republican, a Democrat or an Independent.
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你可能支持共和黨或民主黨, 或沒有政黨傾向。
01:22
I heard from so many women:
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我從好多女性那兒聽到這種事,
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police officers,
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包括警官、
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members of our military,
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軍方人員、
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financial assistants,
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財務助理、
01:30
actors, engineers, lawyers,
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演員、工程師、律師、
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bankers, accountants, teachers ...
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銀行家、會計師、老師、
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journalists.
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記者。
01:41
Sexual harassment, it turns out,
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結果發現,性騷擾其實
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is not about sex.
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重點不在性愛,
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It's about power,
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重點在權力,
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and about what somebody does to you
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重點在於有人試圖要奪去
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to try and take away your power.
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你的權力而對你做出的事。
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And I'm here today
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今天我在這裡,
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to encourage you to know that you can take that power back.
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是要鼓勵各位,要知道 你可以拿回那權力。
02:03
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
02:07
On July 6, 2016,
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2016 年 7 月 6 日,
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I jumped off a cliff all by myself.
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我自己跳下了一個懸崖。
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It was the scariest moment of my life;
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那是我人生中最嚇人的時刻;
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an excruciating choice to make.
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要做這個決定是極痛苦的。
02:21
I fell into an abyss all alone,
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我孤獨地落入深淵,
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not knowing what would be below.
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不知道下面會有什麼。
02:28
But then, something miraculous started to happen.
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但接著,很神奇的事情開始發生了。
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Thousands of women started reaching out to me
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數以千計的女性開始向我伸出援手,
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to share their own stories of pain and agony and shame.
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分享她們關於痛苦、 苦惱、羞恥的故事。
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They told me that I became their voice --
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她們告訴我,我變成了她們的聲音-
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they were voiceless.
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她們是無聲的。
02:44
And suddenly, I realized that even in the 21st century,
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突然間,我了解到, 即使在二十一世紀,
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every woman still has a story.
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每位女性仍然都有一個故事。
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Like Joyce,
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像喬伊絲,
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a flight attendant supervisor
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她是空服員主管,
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whose boss, in meetings every day,
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每天在開會時,她的老闆
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would tell her about the porn that he'd watched the night before
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會一邊告訴她關於 他前晚看的色情片,
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while drawing penises on his notepad.
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一邊在他的筆記本上畫出老二。
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She went to complain.
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她去投訴,
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She was called "crazy" and fired.
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她被指責「瘋了」並遭到開除。
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Like Joanne, Wall Street banker.
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像瓊安,她是華爾街銀行家。
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Her male colleagues would call her that vile c-word every day.
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她的男同事每天會用 形容私處的髒字稱呼她。
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She complained --
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她投訴了-
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labeled a troublemaker,
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被貼上找麻煩的標籤,
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never to do another Wall Street deal again.
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從此不得在華爾街交易。
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Like Elizabeth, an army officer.
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像伊莉莎白,她是軍隊的軍官。
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Her male subordinates would wave one-dollar bills in her face,
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她的男性下屬會拿 $1 紙鈔 在她面前揮舞,
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and say, "Dance for me!"
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說:「跳舞給我看!」
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And when she went to complain to a major,
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她去找中校投訴,
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he said, "What? Only one dollar?
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中校說:「什麼?才 $1?
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You're worth at least five or ten!"
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你至少值 $10!」
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After reading,
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在閱讀了、
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replying to all
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回覆了
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and crying over all of these emails,
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所有的電子郵件, 且為每個故事哭過之後,
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I realized I had so much work to do.
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我了解到我有好多工作要做。
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Here are the startling facts:
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驚人的事實真相是:
三名女性中就有一名 -就我們所知道的-
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one in three women -- that we know of --
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have been sexually harassed in the workplace.
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有在工作場所被性騷擾的經驗。
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Seventy-one percent of those incidences never get reported.
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71% 的性騷擾事件沒有被呈報。
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Why?
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為什麼?
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Because when women come forward,
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因為當女性站出來,
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they're still called liars and troublemakers
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她們仍然被指控在說謊和找麻煩,
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and demeaned and trashed
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她們會被貶低並嚴厲批評,
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and demoted and blacklisted
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被降級並列入黑名單,
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and fired.
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被開除。
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Reporting sexual harassment can be, in many cases, career-ending.
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在許多情況下,呈報性騷擾事件 可能就代表著職涯的終了。
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Of all the women that reached out to me,
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向我求助的女性
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almost none are still today working in their chosen profession,
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幾乎沒有一位現今還留在 她們所選之職業領域當中工作,
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and that is outrageous.
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那實在太荒謬了。
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I, too, was silent in the beginning.
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我也是,在一開始保持沉默。
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It happened to me at the end of my year as Miss America,
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事情發生的時候,是我當上 美國小姐那年的年底,
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when I was meeting with a very high-ranking TV executive
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當時我去會見一位 很高階的電視界經理,
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in New York City.
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地點在紐約市。
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I thought he was helping me throughout the day,
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我以為他那一整天都在幫我,
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making a lot of phone calls.
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他打了很多電話。
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We went to dinner,
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我們去吃晚餐,
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and in the back seat of a car, he suddenly lunged on top of me
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在車後座時,他突然撲到我身上,
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and stuck his tongue down my throat.
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把他的舌頭伸到我的喉嚨裡。
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I didn't realize that to "get into the business" -- silly me --
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我不知道要「進入這個行業」 -我真蠢-
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he also intended to get into my pants.
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表示他也打算要進入我的褲子。
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And just a week later,
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一週之後,
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when I was in Los Angeles meeting with a high-ranking publicist,
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我在洛杉磯,會見 一名高階宣傳人員,
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it happened again.
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又再次發生了。
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Again, in a car.
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同樣,也在車內。
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And he took my neck in his hand,
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他用手抓住我的脖子,
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and he shoved my head so hard into his crotch,
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用力把我的頭推到他的胯下,
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I couldn't breathe.
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我無法呼吸。
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These are the events that suck the life out of all of your self-confidence.
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像這樣的事件, 會把你的自信給榨乾。
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These are the events that, until recently,
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我以前甚至不會稱這些事件為
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I didn't even call assault.
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人身侵犯,直到最近。
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And this is why we have so much work to do.
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這就是為什麼我們有好多工作要做。
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After my year as Miss America,
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在我當上美國小姐的那年之後,
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I continued to meet a lot of well-known people,
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我持續會見許多知名人物,
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including Donald Trump.
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包括川普。
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When this picture was taken in 1988,
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這張照片在 1988 年拍攝,
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nobody could have ever predicted where we'd be today.
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沒有人能想到我們今日的處境。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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Me, fighting to end sexual harassment in the workplace;
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我致力於終結工作場所的性騷擾,
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he, president of the United States
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而他在當美國總統,
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in spite of it.
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儘管如此。
沒多久,我在維吉尼亞州的 裡奇蒙得到了第一個
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And shortly thereafter, I got my first gig in television news
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in Richmond, Virginia.
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電視新聞的工作邀約。
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Check out that confident smile with the bright pink jacket.
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看看那自信的微笑和亮粉紅外套。
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Not so much the hair.
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雖然髮型實在不怎樣。
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
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I was working so hard to prove that blondes have a lot of brains.
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我非常努力要證明 金髮女子也是有腦子的。
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But ironically, one of the first stories I covered
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但諷刺的是, 我最初報導的故事之一,
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was the Anita Hill hearings in Washington, DC.
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是華盛頓特區的安妮塔希爾聽證會。
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And shortly thereafter,
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沒多久之後,
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I, too, was sexually harassed in the workplace.
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我也在工作場所被性騷擾了。
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I was covering a story in rural Virginia,
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當時我在維吉尼亞 鄉村報導一個故事,
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and when we got back into the car,
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當我們回到車上,
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my cameraman started saying to me,
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我的攝影師開始對我說話,
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wondering how much I had enjoyed when he touched my breasts
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想知道當他把麥克風 安裝在我身上時,
我有多享受他摸我的胸部。
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when he put the microphone on me.
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And it went downhill from there.
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之後就每況愈下。
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I was bracing myself against the passenger door --
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我靠在乘客的門上做好準備-
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this was before cellphones.
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這是在有手機之前。
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I was petrified.
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我嚇呆了。
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I actually envisioned myself rolling outside of that door
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我甚至想像我自己打開車門滾出去,
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as the car was going 50 miles per hour like I'd seen in the movies,
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當時車速是時速 50 英哩, 就像電影場面一樣,
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and wondering how much it would hurt.
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心想那樣會有多痛。
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When the story about Harvey Weinstein came to light --
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當哈維溫斯頓的故事真相大白時-
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one the most well-known movie moguls in all of Hollywood --
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他是好萊塢最知名的電影大亨之一-
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the allegations were horrific.
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指控非常可怕。
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But so many women came forward,
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但許多女性站出來,
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and it made me realize what I had done meant something.
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讓我了解到我所做的是有意義的。
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(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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He had such a lame excuse.
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他的藉口很糟。
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He said he was a product of the '60s and '70s,
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他說他是 1960、70 年代的產品,
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and that that was the culture then.
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而那時的文化就是那樣。
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Yeah, that was the culture then,
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是啊,那時的文化就是那樣,
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and unfortunately, it still is.
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不幸的是,現在的文化還是那樣。
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Why?
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為什麼?
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Because of all the myths
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原因是和性騷擾
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that are still associated with sexual harassment.
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相關的所有迷思。
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"Women should just take another job and find another career."
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「女人應該去找別的工作、 轉換職涯。」
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Yeah, right.
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是啊。
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Tell that to the single mom working two jobs,
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去跟做兩份工作努力想讓收支平衡
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trying to make ends meet,
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卻遭到性騷擾的單親媽媽說吧。
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who's also being sexually harassed.
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08:18
"Women --
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「女人-
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they bring it on themselves."
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是她們自找的。」
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By the clothes that we wear
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因為我們穿著的衣服、
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and the makeup that we put on.
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我們化的妝。
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Yeah, I guess those hoodies that Uber engineers wear in Silicon Valley
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是啊,我想矽谷 Uber 工程師 穿的那些兜帽上衣
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are just so provocative.
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是相當撩人的。
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"Women make it up."
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「女人編造的。」
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Yeah, because it's so fun and rewarding
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是啊,因為被貶低和受侮辱
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to be demeaned and taken down.
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真是有趣又有收穫。
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I would know.
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這我很清楚。
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"Women bring these claims because they want to be famous and rich."
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「女人因為想要成名和富有, 才會做出這些索賠。」
08:48
Our own president said that.
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這是我們自己的總統說的。
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I bet Taylor Swift,
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我打賭泰勒絲,
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one of the most well-known and richest singers in the world,
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世界上最知名且有錢的歌手之一,
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didn't need more money or fame
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不需要更多的錢或名氣,
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when she came forward with her groping case
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她為了她的猥褻案站出來,
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for one dollar.
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只為了 $1。
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And I'm so glad she did.
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我很高興她這麼做。
09:09
Breaking news:
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即時熱線新聞:
09:10
the untold story about women and sexual harassment in the workplace:
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關於女人與工作場所性騷擾, 未被說出來的故事:
09:16
women just want a safe, welcoming
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女人只想要安全、歡迎她們、
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and harass-free environment.
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沒有騷擾的環境。
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That's it.
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就這樣。
09:24
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
09:30
So how do we go about getting our power back?
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所以我們要如何 把我們的權力拿回來?
09:33
I have three solutions.
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我有三個解決方案。
09:35
Number one:
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第一:
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we need to turn bystanders and enablers into allies.
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我們要把旁觀者和賦能者變成盟友。
09:41
Ninety-eight percent of United States corporations right now
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現今美國企業有 98%
09:44
have sexual harassment training policies.
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都有性騷擾訓練政策。
09:47
Seventy percent have prevention programs.
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70% 有預防方案。
09:50
But still, overwhelmingly,
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但仍然,絕大多數的旁觀者
09:53
bystanders and witnesses don't come forward.
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和目擊證人不願站出來。
09:57
In 2016,
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2016 年,
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the Harvard Business Review called it the "bystander effect."
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《哈佛商業評論》稱之為 「旁觀者效應」。
10:03
And yet -- remember 9/11.
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但是-記得九一一。
10:07
Millions of times we've heard,
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我們聽過數百萬次了,
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"If you see something,
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「如果你看見什麼,
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say something."
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就說點什麼。」
10:13
Imagine how impactful that would be if we carried that through
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想像一下,如果能讓 工作場所的旁觀者都能
10:17
to bystanders in the workplace regarding sexual harassment --
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對於性騷擾這麼做, 會有多大的衝擊影響-
10:21
to recognize and interrupt these incidences;
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如果他們能夠認清並打斷這些事件;
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to confront the perpetrators to their face;
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能當面與犯罪者對質;
10:30
to help and protect the victims.
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能協助並保護被害人。
10:34
This is my shout-out to men:
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這是我對男人的大聲疾呼:
10:36
we need you in this fight.
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在這場戰爭中我們需要你們。
10:39
And to women, too --
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女人也是-
10:41
enablers to allies.
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從賦能者變成盟友。
10:44
Number two:
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第二:
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change the laws.
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改變法律。
10:49
How many of you out there know
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在座有多少人知道,
10:50
whether or not you have a forced arbitration clause
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在你們的僱用合約當中,
10:52
in your employment contract?
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有沒有強制仲裁調款?
10:56
Not a lot of hands.
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沒很多人舉手。
10:57
And if you don't know, you should,
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如果你不知道,你應該要去知道,
10:59
and here's why.
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原因如下。
《時代雜誌》稱呼它,
11:01
TIME Magazine calls it,
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11:02
right there on the screen,
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就在螢幕上,
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"The teeny tiny little print in contracts
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「合約中極小的小印刷字體
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that keeps sexual harassment claims unheard."
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讓性騷擾的訴求無法被聽到。」
11:11
Here's what it is.
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它就是這樣。
11:13
Forced arbitration takes away your Seventh Amendment right
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強制仲裁奪走了 憲法第七條修正案賦予你的
11:15
to an open jury process.
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公開陪審團訴訟程序權力。
11:17
It's secret.
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它是秘密的。
11:20
You don't get the same witnesses or depositions.
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你無法得到同樣的證人或證詞。
11:22
In many cases, the company picks the arbitrator for you.
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在許多案例中, 公司為你選擇仲裁者。
11:25
There are no appeals,
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沒有上訴,
11:28
and only 20 percent of the time does the employee win.
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只有 20% 的情況下僱員會贏。
11:31
But again, it's secret,
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但,同樣的,這也是秘密,
11:33
so nobody ever knows what happened to you.
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沒有人會知道你發生了什麼事。
11:37
This is why I've been working so diligently
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這就是為什麼我一直努力不懈
11:39
on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC
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在華盛頓特區國會山莊
11:41
to change the laws.
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試圖改變法律。
11:42
And here's what I tell the Senators:
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我是這樣告訴參議員的:
11:44
sexual harassment is apolitical.
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性騷擾是無政治傾向的。
11:46
Before somebody harasses you,
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在一個人騷擾你之前,
11:48
they don't ask you if you're a Republican or Democrat first.
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他們不會先問你支持 民主黨或共和黨。
11:51
They just do it.
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他們就做了。
11:53
And this is why we should all care.
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這就是為什麼大家都應該在乎。
11:56
Number three:
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第三:
11:57
be fierce.
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要夠強悍。
11:59
It starts when we stand tall,
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它始於我們挺身而出,
12:02
and we build that self-confidence.
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建立自信。
12:04
And we stand up and we speak up,
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我們站起來,我們說出來,
12:06
and we tell the world what happened to us.
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我們告訴這個世界 我們發生了什麼事。
12:09
I know it's scary,
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我知道這讓人害怕,
12:11
but let's do it for our kids.
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但就為了我們的孩子而做吧。
12:14
Let's stop this for the next generations.
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為接下來的世代阻止這種事發生。
12:18
I know that I did it for my children.
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我知道我是為了我的孩子而做。
12:22
They were paramount in my decision-making
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在我做出是否要站出來的決策時,
12:25
about whether or not I would come forward.
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他們是最重要的考量。
12:27
My beautiful children,
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我美好的孩子們,
12:28
my 12-year-old son, Christian,
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我兒子克利斯汀 12 歲,
12:30
my 14-year-old daughter, Kaia.
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我女兒凱雅 14 歲。
12:32
And boy, did I underestimate them.
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我真是低估了他們。
12:36
The first day of school last year
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去年開學的第一天,
12:37
happened to be the day my resolution was announced,
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剛好是我的決議要公佈的日子,
12:40
and I was so anxious about what they would face.
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我好焦慮不知道他們會要面對什麼。
12:42
My daughter came home from school and she said,
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我女兒從學校回來後,說:
12:44
"Mommy, so many people asked me what happened to you over the summer."
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「媽咪,好多人問我 你在夏天時發生了什麼事。」
12:48
Then she looked at me in the eyes
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接著她看著我的雙眼,
12:49
and she said, "And mommy,
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她說:「媽咪,
12:51
I was so proud
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我好驕傲
12:53
to say that you were my mom."
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能夠說你是我媽媽。」
12:58
And two weeks later,
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兩週後,
13:00
when she finally found the courage to stand up to two kids
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她終於找到勇氣去面對兩個孩子,
13:04
who had been making her life miserable,
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他們一直讓她的日子很難過,
13:06
she came home to me and she said,
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她回到家,對我說:
13:07
"Mommy, I found the courage to do it
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「媽咪,我找到勇氣去做了,
13:11
because I saw you do it."
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因為我看到你所做的。」
13:16
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
13:24
You see, giving the gift of courage is contagious.
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把勇氣這份禮物給予出去, 是有感染力的。
13:30
And I hope that my journey has inspired you,
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我希望我的旅程能夠鼓舞你們,
13:33
because right now, it's the tipping point.
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因為現在就是關鍵轉折點。
13:36
We are watching history happen.
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我們正在看著歷史發生。
13:39
More and more women are coming forward and saying,
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越來越多女性站出來,並說:
13:41
"Enough is enough."
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「我說夠了就是夠了。」
13:46
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
13:51
Here's my one last plea to companies.
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我還有最後一項對企業的請求。
13:54
Let's hire back all those women whose careers were lost
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把那些因為一個隨機的渾蛋 而失去工作的女性
13:59
because of some random jerk.
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都僱用回來吧。
14:02
Because here's what I know about women:
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對於女人,我所知道的是:
14:05
we will not longer be underestimated, intimidated or set back;
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我們將不會再被 低估、威脅、或阻礙;
14:09
we will not be silenced by the ways of the establishment
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我們將不會再因為過去的體制
14:13
or the relics of the past.
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或是遺俗而沉默。
14:15
No.
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不會。
14:16
We will stand up and speak up
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我們會站起來,說出來,
14:20
and have our voices heard.
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讓我們的聲音被聽見。
14:22
We will be the women we were meant to be.
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我們將能夠做我們 本來就應該做的女性。
14:27
And above all,
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最重要的,
14:29
we will always be fierce.
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我們將永遠是強悍的。
14:34
Thank you.
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謝謝。
14:35
(Applause)
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