Tavi Gevinson: A teen just trying to figure it out

譯者: Cheno Chen 審譯者: Sharon Loh

Four years ago today, exactly, actually,

事實上，就確切在四年前今天，

I started a fashion blog called Style Rookie.

我開設了一個叫做 Style Rookie 的部落格。

Last September of 2011, I started an online magazine

在2011年的9月，我開辦一份線上雜誌

for teenage girls called Rookiemag.com.

為青少女服務的Rookiemag.com。

My name's Tavi Gevinson, and

我是 Tavi Gevinson，

the title of my talk is "Still Figuring It Out,"

我的演講主題是“Still Figuring It Out”

and the MS Paint quality of my slides

在投影片上看到的我的小畫家塗鴉

was a total creative decision in keeping with today's theme,

全然是靈機一動的決定，也跟今天主題密切相關

and has nothing to do with my inability

這跟我不懂怎麼用簡報

to use PowerPoint. (Laughter)

完全沒有關係。(大笑)

So I edit this site for teenage girls. I'm a feminist.

我為了這個青少女服務的網站作編輯。我是個女性主義者。

I am kind of a pop culture nerd, and I think a lot about

我是一個流行文化的宅宅， 我常在想

what makes a strong female character,

是什麼能塑做一個堅強女性的角色，

and, you know, movies and TV shows,

當然，如你所知，像一些電影和電視節目，

these things have influence. My own website.

這些東西都有影響力。那我自己的網站

So I think the question of what makes a strong female

我想了一個問題，是什麼可以塑做一個堅強的女性

character often goes misinterpreted,

的角色，那一直被誤解的

and instead we get these two-dimensional superwomen

相反，我們看到的這些缺乏深度的女超人

who maybe have one quality that's played up a lot,

這些人將自己的特質發揮淋漓盡致，

like a Catwoman type,

例如貓女類型的，

or she plays her sexuality up a lot,

她很會操弄自己性感的一面，

and it's seen as power.

這看來像是一種力量。

But they're not strong characters who happen to be female.

但對女性來說，這並不是一個強而有力的特徵。

They're completely flat,

這種形象非常單薄

and they're basically cardboard characters.

而且基本上都是紙板型的人物

The problem with this is that then

這產生的問題就是

people expect women to be that easy to understand,

人們會期待女性像這些角色一樣容易理解

and women are mad at themselves

而女人也開始為自己感到發瘋

for not being that simple,

因為她們做不到像角色那樣簡單

when, in actuality, women are complicated,

現實中，女性是複雜的

women are multifaceted -- not because women are crazy,

女性是多面的-不因為女性全是瘋狂的，

but because people are crazy,

而是人類本來就是瘋狂的，

and women happen to be people. (Laughter)

女性剛好又是人類而已(大笑)

So the flaws are the key.

所以這些缺陷就變成是關鍵。

I'm not the first person to say this.

我並非第一個人提起這點。

What makes a strong female character

什麼可以塑造一個堅強女性角色

is a character who has weaknesses, who has flaws,

是一個有弱點、有缺陷的角色，

who is maybe not immediately likable,

或許她不會第一眼就很討喜

but eventually relatable.

但最終會是讓人認同的

I don't like to acknowledge a problem

我不喜歡提出一個問題

without also acknowledging those who work to fix it,

卻同時不想誰去解決它

so just wanted to acknowledge shows like "Mad Men,"

所以我想提出節目像“廣告狂人”（Mad Men）

movies like "Bridesmaids," whose female characters

電影像是“伴娘我最大”（Bridesmaids）裏頭的女性角色

or protagonists are complex, multifaceted.

或是主角的角色都是複雜，多面的。

Lena Dunham, who's on here, her show on HBO

Lena Dunham，也上面這個人，她在HBO的節目

that premiers next month, "Girls,"

下個月會首播，叫做"女生們"

she said she wanted to start it because she felt that

她說她會想要開始這個節目，因為她知道到

every woman she knew was just a bundle of contradictions,

她所認識的每個女性都是矛盾的集結體

and that feels accurate for all people,

而這對所有人來說是準確的

but you don't see women represented like that as much.

但你不能看到女性比這個還有更多的了

Congrats, guys. (Laughs)

恭喜你們，男士們（現場大笑)

But I don't feel that — I still feel that there are some types

但我不認同，我仍然認為還是有些女性

of women who are not represented that way,

是不能夠就這樣被描述呈現，

and one group that we'll focus on today are teens,

而今日我們會集中講青少年人

because I think teenagers are especially contradictory

因為我想青少年是特別矛盾的

and still figuring it out,

而且還在摸索時期

and in the '90s there was "Freaks and Geeks"

在九零年代時有"怪胎們"和

and "My So-Called Life," and their characters,

"我所謂的生活"中的這些角色，

Lindsay Weir and Angela Chase,

Lindsay Weir和Angela Chase，

I mean, the whole premise of the shows

我指，這類節目會假設

were just them trying to figure themselves out, basically,

就是這些角色試圖認清自己是誰，

but those shows only lasted a season each,

但是這兩齣節目都只撐了一季，

and I haven't really seen anything like that on TV since.

而我之後就沒再看過有任何類似的節目出現了

So this is a scientific diagram of my brain — (Laughter) —

所以在我的大腦裡出現這個很科學化的圖像(大笑)

around the time when I was,

大約那個時候我還是，

when I started watching those TV shows.

當我開始看那些電視節目時，

I was ending middle school, starting high school --

我正要從中學畢業、開始高中生涯

I'm a sophomore now —

我現在是大二生了

and I was trying to reconcile

而我曾試著去妥協

all of these differences that you're told you can't be

所有這些差異，妳一直被告誡不能做的

when you're growing up as a girl.

從妳長成一個少女

You can't be smart and pretty.

妳不能夠漂亮又聰明。

You can't be a feminist who's also interested in fashion.

妳不能是個很愛時尚的女性主義者。

You can't care about clothes if it's not for the sake

妳不能關注衣服打扮，如果它對其他人沒好處

of what other people, usually men, will think of you.

通常還會讓男人想著妳。

So I was trying to figure all that out,

所以我試著要把這些弄懂

and I felt a little confused,

而我曾感到有一點點迷糊

and I said so on my blog,

然後我在我的部落格上寫了

and I said that I wanted to start

我說我想要創建一個

a website for teenage girls

專為了青少女服務的網站

that was not this kind of one-dimensional

這不是一種偏面的

strong character empowerment thing

要充權，要增強女性性格的東西

because I think one thing that can be very alienating

因為我認為需要轉移

about a misconception of feminism is that

有關女性主義的誤解，就是

girls then think that to be a feminist, they have to live up to

女孩們會認為當一個女性主義者，她們就必須要

being perfectly consistent in your beliefs,

絕對地堅守自己的信仰

never being insecure, never having doubts,

永不缺乏安全感，永遠沒有疑惑，

having all of the answers. And this is not true,

擁有所有問題的答案，然而這是錯誤的，

and, actually, reconciling all the contradictions I was feeling

而且事實上，在理解我所感覺到的矛盾的過程中

became easier once I understood that feminism

一切簡單多了，當我懂了女性主義

was not a rulebook but a discussion,

不是一本規則手冊，而是一場討論

a conversation, a process,

一種對話、一個過程

and this is a spread from a zine that I made last year

而這是在我去年做的一本雜誌中的傳單

when I -- I mean, I think I've let myself go a bit

當我，我指，我覺得我的繪畫功力

on the illustration front since.

有進步許多了

But, yeah.

但是，對

So I said on my blog that I wanted to start this publication

所以我在我的部落格上說我想要開始這份出版物

for teenage girls and ask people to submit

專為年少女打造，並邀請人們供稿

their writing, their photography, whatever,

繳交各種寫作、攝影，什麼都好

to be a member of our staff.

就能成我們的一份子

I got about 3,000 emails.

我收到了大約三千封電子郵件

My editorial director and I went through them and

我的總編和我看過了所有的信後

put together a staff of people,

集結了一組人馬

and we launched last September.

然後我們在去年九月發行

And this is an excerpt from my first editor's letter,

這是我們第一封編輯信的片段

where I say that Rookie, we don't have all the answers,

裡頭我說：菜鳥們，我們沒有所有的答案，

we're still figuring it out too, but the point is not to

我們一樣仍在找尋答案，但重點是不要

give girls the answers, and not even give them permission

給女孩們任何答案，就不要容許她們

to find the answers themselves,

自己找尋答案，

but hopefully inspire them to understand that

反而重點是要懷抱希望地激勵她們去理解

they can give themselves that permission,

她們可以給自己許可

they can ask their own questions, find their own answers,

她們能自己提問，並找到自己的答案

all of that, and Rookie, I think we've been trying to make it

以上種種，菜鳥們，我想我們一直在嘗試讓這一切發生

a nice place for all of that to be figured out.

提供一個好地方讓這一切有可能出現

So I'm not saying, "Be like us,"

我不是在說：「要像我們一樣」

and "We're perfect role models," because we're not,

或是「我們就是完美典範」，因為我們不是

but we just want to help represent girls

我們只是想要幫忙呈現女孩們

in a way that shows those different dimensions.

用一種表現出各種不同面向的方式

I mean, we have articles called

我們有的文章取名為

"On Taking Yourself Seriously: How to Not Care What People Think of You,"

「認真看待妳自己：如何不在意別人的看法」

but we also have articles like,

但我們也有文章像是

oops -- I'm figuring it out!

哎啊，讓我想想

Ha ha. (Laughter)

哈 哈（大笑）

If you use that, you can get away with anything.

善用這招，你可以成功避免任何的尷尬

We also have articles called

我們也有文章像是

"How to Look Like You Weren't Just Crying in Less than Five Minutes."

「如何讓妳看來不曾哭過」

So all of that being said, I still really appreciate

所以儘管以上所說，我仍然十分讚賞

those characters in movies and

那些出現在電影裡的角色和

articles like that on our site,

我們網站上的文章，

that aren't just about being totally powerful,

在說的不只是要如何當一個全然有力的人

maybe finding your acceptance with yourself

而是找到能接受自己的方法

and self-esteem and your flaws and how you accept those.

能有自信心，接受自己的缺點。

So what I you to take away from my talk,

我希望你們能從我演講中得到

the lesson of all of this, is to just be Stevie Nicks.

總結以上的，就是學習Steve Nicks吧

Like, that's all you have to do. (Laughter)

可以說這是你唯一要做的事 （大笑）

Because my favorite thing about her,

因為我喜歡她的

other than, like, everything, is that

像是，她最與眾不同之處的是，

she is very -- has always been

她是非常的，也一直都是

unapologetically present on stage,

不卑不亢地站在台上

and unapologetic about her flaws

並不為了她的缺陷而感到抱歉

and about reconciling all of her contradictory feelings

也能夠協調內心所有的矛盾感受

and she makes you listen to them and think about them,

而且她會讓你聽進去，讓你去思考

and yeah, so please be Stevie Nicks.

沒錯，所以，試圖作Stevie Nicks吧。

Thank you. (Applause)

謝謝。 (鼓掌)