How frustration can make us more creative | Tim Harford

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Translator: Szeman Leung Reviewer: Alan Watson
00:12
Late in January 1975,
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喺 1975 年 1 月
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a 17-year-old German girl called Vera Brandes
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一個 17 歲叫 Vera Brandes 嘅德國女仔
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walked out onto the stage of the Cologne Opera House.
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走上科隆歌劇院嘅舞台
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The auditorium was empty.
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嗰時觀眾席無人
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It was lit only by the dim, green glow of the emergency exit sign.
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歌劇院內
只有緊急出口牌綠色微弱嘅燈光
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This was the most exciting day of Vera's life.
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但嗰日係 Vera 人生裏面最興奮嘅一日
佢係德國最年輕嘅音樂會籌辦人
00:36
She was the youngest concert promoter in Germany,
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00:39
and she had persuaded the Cologne Opera House
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佢成功說服科隆歌劇院
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to host a late-night concert of jazz
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舉辨一場美國音樂人 Keith Jarrett 嘅
深夜爵士音樂會
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from the American musician, Keith Jarrett.
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1,400 people were coming.
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音樂會有 1,400 個觀眾出席
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And in just a few hours,
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喺幾個鐘頭之後
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Jarrett would walk out on the same stage,
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Keith 走上同一個台
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he'd sit down at the piano
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坐低喺鋼琴前面
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and without rehearsal or sheet music,
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喺冇採排或者樂譜嘅情況下
佢開始演奏
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he would begin to play.
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01:04
But right now,
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但喺宜家
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Vera was introducing Keith to the piano in question,
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Vera 預備俾 Keith 用嘅鋼琴原來有問題
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and it wasn't going well.
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而且情況並唔順利
01:11
Jarrett looked to the instrument a little warily,
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Keith 小心咁睇個鋼琴
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played a few notes,
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彈咗幾個音
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walked around it,
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圍著鋼琴行咗一圈
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played a few more notes,
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又再彈咗幾個音
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muttered something to his producer.
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然後向佢嘅監製細聲講咗幾句
01:19
Then the producer came over to Vera and said ...
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嗰個監製走過去同 Vera 講︰
01:24
"If you don't get a new piano, Keith can't play."
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「如果你唔換個新鋼琴,Keith 表演唔到。」
01:30
There'd been a mistake.
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科隆歌劇院搞錯咗
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The opera house had provided the wrong instrument.
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歌劇院俾咗錯嘅樂器
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This one had this harsh, tinny upper register,
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鋼琴特別高音
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because all the felt had worn away.
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係因為鋼琴一條條吸音毛頭經已損耗
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The black notes were sticking,
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嗰啲黑鍵彈唔返上嚟
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the white notes were out of tune,
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白鍵走曬音
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the pedals didn't work
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腳踏又用唔到
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and the piano itself was just too small.
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而且鋼琴太細啦
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It wouldn't create the volume
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彈出嚟嘅音細聲得制
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that would fill a large space such as the Cologne Opera House.
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尤其是喺咁大嘅空間
唔會所有人都聽得到
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So Keith Jarrett left.
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所以 Keith 走咗
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He went and sat outside in his car,
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佢出去,坐喺佢架車裡面
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leaving Vera Brandes
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留低 Vera 自己一個
打電話去搵另一個琴返嚟
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to get on the phone to try to find a replacement piano.
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02:07
Now she got a piano tuner,
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Vera 成功搵咗個鋼琴師傅
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but she couldn't get a new piano.
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但佢搵唔到一個新嘅鋼琴
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And so she went outside
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於是佢出去外面
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and she stood there in the rain,
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喺大雨之下企
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talking to Keith Jarrett,
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同 Keith 話
請求佢唔好取消音樂會
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begging him not to cancel the concert.
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02:24
And he looked out of his car
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Keith 望著呢個狼狽 淋濕曬嘅德國青年
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at this bedraggled, rain-drenched German teenager,
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02:30
took pity on her,
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因為同情佢
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and said,
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所以 Keith 話
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"Never forget ... only for you."
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「唔好忘記呢件事…今次只係為你。」
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And so a few hours later,
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幾個鐘頭之後
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Jarrett did indeed step out onto the stage of the opera house,
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Keith 走上歌劇院嘅台
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he sat down at the unplayable piano
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佢坐低喺嗰個彈唔到嘅鋼琴
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and began.
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開始演奏
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(Music)
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(音樂)
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Within moments it became clear that something magical was happening.
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但神奇嘅嘢發生咗
Keith 避開高音
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Jarrett was avoiding those upper registers,
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03:12
he was sticking to the middle tones of the keyboard,
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佢反而彈中間嘅音
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which gave the piece a soothing, ambient quality.
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令到呢首歌有撫慰同平靜嘅效果
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But also, because the piano was so quiet,
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因為鋼琴本身嘅音量唔大
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he had to set up these rumbling, repetitive riffs in the bass.
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Keith 唔單止要重複彈低音
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And he stood up twisting, pounding down on the keys,
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仲要企起身用力襟啲鍵
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desperately trying to create enough volume to reach the people in the back row.
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確保後排聽眾都可以聽到琴聲
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It's an electrifying performance.
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呢場表演令人興奮
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It somehow has this peaceful quality,
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呢個表演雖然有平靜嘅特質
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and at the same time it's full of energy,
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但同時又充滿活力
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it's dynamic.
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03:47
And the audience loved it.
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聽眾唔但之鍾意
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Audiences continue to love it
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而且繼續鍾意
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because the recording of the Köln Concert
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因為呢次科隆音樂會嘅鋼琴專輯
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is the best-selling piano album in history
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係史上最暢銷嘅鋼琴專輯
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and the best-selling solo jazz album in history.
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亦係最暢銷嘅獨奏爵士樂專輯
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Keith Jarrett had been handed a mess.
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雖然 Keith 嘅表演開始前唔順利
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He had embraced that mess, and it soared.
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但佢接受咗,仲將佢搞好
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But let's think for a moment about Jarrett's initial instinct.
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等我哋諗一諗 Keith 最初嘅反應
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He didn't want to play.
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佢唔想演奏
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Of course,
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將心比己
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I think any of us, in any remotely similar situation,
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如果任何一個喺類似嘅情況
我哋都會有一樣嘅感受
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would feel the same way, we'd have the same instinct.
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我哋都一樣唔想演奏
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We don't want to be asked to do good work with bad tools.
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我哋都唔希望人哋叫我哋 用差嘅工具做好一件事
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We don't want to have to overcome unnecessary hurdles.
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我哋都想避免不必要嘅障礙
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But Jarrett's instinct was wrong,
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但我哋都知道 Keith 最初嘅反應係錯嘅
好彩佢改變諗法
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and thank goodness he changed his mind.
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04:39
And I think our instinct is also wrong.
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我認為我哋嘅判斷都係錯嘅
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I think we need to gain a bit more appreciation
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我認為我哋應該反而感激
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for the unexpected advantages of having to cope with a little mess.
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因為解決麻煩而獲得意想不到嘅好處
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So let me give you some examples
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所以等我由認知心理學
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from cognitive psychology,
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複雜性科學
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from complexity science,
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社會心理學
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from social psychology,
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以及搖滾樂裏面
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and of course, rock 'n' roll.
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講一啲例子
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So cognitive psychology first.
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我哋由認知心理學開始
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We've actually known for a while
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實際上我哋已經知道咗有一段時間
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that certain kinds of difficulty,
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一啲難度同一啲障礙
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certain kinds of obstacle,
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05:13
can actually improve our performance.
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可以提高表現
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For example,
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例如
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the psychologist Daniel Oppenheimer,
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喺幾年前
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a few years ago,
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心理學家 Daniel Oppenheimer
曾經同中學老師合作
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teamed up with high school teachers.
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05:22
And he asked them to reformat the handouts
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要求佢哋重新編寫 派俾其中某幾班嘅筆記
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that they were giving to some of their classes.
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05:28
So the regular handout would be formatted in something straightforward,
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一般筆記嘅字體都係大路,
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such as Helvetica or Times New Roman.
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譬如 Helvetica 同 Times New Roman
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But half these classes were getting handouts that were formatted
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但另一班收到嘅筆記嘅字體係比較強烈
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in something sort of intense, like Haettenschweiler,
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例如︰ Haettenschweiler 字體
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or something with a zesty bounce, like Comic Sans italicized.
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又或係一啲比較跳躍嘅字體
例如斜體嘅 Comic Sans 字體
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Now, these are really ugly fonts,
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呢啲都係核突嘅字體
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and they're difficult fonts to read.
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而且佢哋好難閱讀
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But at the end of the semester,
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等學期結束時
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students were given exams,
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學生要考試
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and the students who'd been asked to read the more difficult fonts,
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嗰啲獲發難睇字體筆記嘅學生
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had actually done better on their exams,
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喺考試入面唔同科目
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in a variety of subjects.
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表現都較好
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And the reason is,
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原因係
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the difficult font had slowed them down,
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難睇嘅字體減慢佢哋閱讀速度
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forced them to work a bit harder,
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令佢哋要落多啲苦功
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to think a bit more about what they were reading,
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要花多啲時間諗下佢哋到底寫乜嘢
要多啲時間去理解
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to interpret it ...
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06:13
and so they learned more.
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所以佢哋學得更加多
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Another example.
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另外一個例子
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The psychologist Shelley Carson has been testing Harvard undergraduates
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心理學家 Shelley Carson 一直喺度測試哈佛本科生
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for the quality of their attentional filters.
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佢哋過濾事物嘅能力
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What do I mean by that?
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咁到底係咩意思呢?
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What I mean is, imagine you're in a restaurant,
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我嘅意思係,想像你喺一間食肆裡面
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you're having a conversation,
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你同人傾緊偈
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there are all kinds of other conversations going on in the restaurant,
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食肆裏邊仲有其他人傾緊
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you want to filter them out,
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你想將佢哋把聲都篩走
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you want to focus on what's important to you.
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集中你目前嘅對話
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Can you do that?
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你做到嗎?
如果可以,你嘅過濾做得唔錯
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If you can, you have good, strong attentional filters.
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06:43
But some people really struggle with that.
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但有啲人比較吃力
一啲 Shelley 嘅本科生比較吃力
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Some of Carson's undergraduate subjects struggled with that.
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佢哋嘅過濾好弱,佢哋嘅過濾有問題
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They had weak filters, they had porous filters --
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好多無關重要嘅訊息 進入咗佢哋嘅腦裡邊
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let a lot of external information in.
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06:55
And so what that meant is they were constantly being interrupted
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意思係佢哋會不斷 被外界嘅影像同聲音干擾
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by the sights and the sounds of the world around them.
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07:01
If there was a television on while they were doing their essays,
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如果佢哋做論文嘅時候,電視開著嘅話
佢哋無法子專心喺論文度
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they couldn't screen it out.
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07:05
Now, you would think that that was a disadvantage ...
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你可能會話呢樣係缺點…
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but no.
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但,唔係
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When Carson looked at what these students had achieved,
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當 Shelley 睇返呢啲學生所做到嘅嘢
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the ones with the weak filters
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佢發現嗰啲過濾比較弱嘅學生
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were vastly more likely
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佢哋係更加有可能
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to have some real creative milestone in their lives,
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喺佢哋嘅生命裡面成就一啲嘢
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to have published their first novel,
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出版佢哋第一部小說
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to have released their first album.
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發行咗佢哋第一張專輯
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These distractions were actually grists to their creative mill.
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分心實際上係佢哋創意嘅來源
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They were able to think outside the box because their box was full of holes.
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佢哋突破原有思維
因為佢哋唔會鎖死自己
07:36
Let's talk about complexity science.
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我哋嚟講下複雜性科學
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So how do you solve a really complex --
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你點樣解決一個非常複雜嘅…
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the world's full of complicated problems --
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我哋世界充滿複雜嘅問題
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how do you solve a really complicated problem?
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你點能夠解決一個非常複雜嘅問題?
例如,你想整一個飛機引擎
07:44
For example, you try to make a jet engine.
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07:46
There are lots and lots of different variables,
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呢度有好多、好多唔同嘅嘢要考慮
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the operating temperature, the materials,
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包括運行時嘅溫度、材料
07:50
all the different dimensions, the shape.
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尺寸、形狀
07:52
You can't solve that kind of problem all in one go,
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你唔能夠一次過解決所有問題
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it's too hard.
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因為太難啦
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So what do you do?
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咁你會點做?
07:57
Well, one thing you can do is try to solve it step-by-step.
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好啦,你可以一步一步咁解決呢啲疑難
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So you have some kind of prototype
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然後你有原型
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and you tweak it, you test it, you improve it.
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你調整一下佢、測試佢、改良佢
再調整一下佢、測試佢、改良佢
08:08
You tweak it, you test it, you improve it.
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08:12
Now, this idea of marginal gains will eventually get you a good jet engine.
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呢種逐步改良嘅方法 最終會令你整到一個好嘅引擎
08:17
And it's been quite widely implemented in the world.
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而且呢種方法全世界都廣泛應用
08:20
So you'll hear about it, for example, in high performance cycling,
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你會聽到,例如
喺高水平嘅單車運動裏面都會有
08:24
web designers will talk about trying to optimize their web pages,
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而網頁設計師會講 佢哋逐步優化佢哋網頁
08:27
they're looking for these step-by-step gains.
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呢個係解決複雜問題嘅好辦法
08:30
That's a good way to solve a complicated problem.
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08:34
But you know what would make it a better way?
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但你知道個辦法其實係點樣?
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A dash of mess.
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就係要亂七八糟
08:41
You add randomness,
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又要一開始時隨意咁做嘢
08:43
early on in the process,
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08:44
you make crazy moves,
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你做出瘋狂嘅嘢
08:46
you try stupid things that shouldn't work,
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你嘗試一啲一定唔會成功嘅愚蠢嘢
08:49
and that will tend to make the problem-solving work better.
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呢啲都會令問題解決得更加好
08:52
And the reason for that is
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原因係
08:54
the trouble with the step-by-step process,
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逐步做嘅問題
08:56
the marginal gains,
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幾乎冇嘅收益嘅情兄
08:57
is they can walk you gradually down a dead end.
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可以令你慢慢行入死路一條
09:01
And if you start with the randomness, that becomes less likely,
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如果你一開始時係亂咁做
行入掘頭路嘅機會都低啲
09:05
and your problem-solving becomes more robust.
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你嘅解難能力就會勁啲
09:10
Let's talk about social psychology.
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講下社會心理學
09:12
So the psychologist Katherine Phillips, with some colleagues,
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心理學家凱瑟琳 ‧ 菲利普斯 同一啲同事
09:15
recently gave murder mystery problems to some students,
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俾學生一啲謀殺謎團去解答
09:19
and these students were collected in groups of four
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學生四個人一組
09:22
and they were given dossiers with information about a crime --
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佢哋有一叠關於罪案嘅資料文件
09:26
alibis and evidence, witness statements and three suspects.
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不在場證據、證人嘅供詞同三名嫌疑犯
09:31
And the groups of four students were asked to figure out who did it,
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佢哋要搵出係邊個做
09:35
who committed the crime.
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邊個犯法
09:37
And there were two treatments in this experiment.
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呢個實驗有兩種情況
一係一組人都係識得嘅朋友
09:40
In some cases these were four friends,
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09:44
they all knew each other well.
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09:46
In other cases,
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第二種就係三個朋友加一個唔識嘅
09:47
three friends and a stranger.
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09:51
And you can see where I'm going with this.
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你可以估到我要講啲咩
09:53
Obviously I'm going to say
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好明顯
09:54
that the groups with the stranger solved the problem more effectively,
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第二種情況嘅組別更有效解決問題
09:57
which is true, they did.
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咁事實上真係,佢哋係更加有效率
09:59
Actually, they solved the problem quite a lot more effectively.
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10:03
So the groups of four friends,
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喺第一種情況嘅組別裏面
10:07
they only had a 50-50 chance of getting the answer right.
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佢哋只有一半機會答啱
佢哋唔係做得好好
10:10
Which is actually not that great --
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當選擇題有三個選擇
10:11
in multiple choice, for three answers? 50-50's not good.
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得一半答啱確實唔係好好
10:14
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
第二情況嘅組別
10:16
The three friends and the stranger,
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10:17
even though the stranger didn't have any extra information,
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即使個陌生人冇俾任何額外嘅訊息
10:20
even though it was just a case
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雖然呢個情況只係話
10:22
of how that changed the conversation to accommodate that awkwardness,
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點樣令交談冇咁尷尬
10:28
the three friends and the stranger,
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第二個情況嘅組別
有 75% 機會搵到正確答案
10:30
they had a 75 percent chance of finding the right answer.
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10:32
That's quite a big leap in performance.
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個結果係好大嘅進步
10:34
But I think what's really interesting
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而我認為真正吸引嘅
10:36
is not just that the three friends and the stranger did a better job,
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唔係呢三個朋友同陌生人做得更加好
而係佢哋對件事嘅感覺
10:40
but how they felt about it.
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10:42
So when Katherine Phillips interviewed the groups of four friends,
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所以當凱瑟琳採訪咗第一種組別嘅時候
10:47
they had a nice time,
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佢哋都認為佢哋有愉快嘅時光
10:49
they also thought they'd done a good job.
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都認為佢哋做得好好
10:52
They were complacent.
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佢哋好滿足
10:54
When she spoke to the three friends and the stranger,
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當佢採訪第二種組別嘅時候
10:57
they had not had a nice time --
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佢哋都認佢哋冇一個惀快嘅時光
10:58
it's actually rather difficult, it's rather awkward ...
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佢實際上相處得好困難、又尷尬
11:02
and they were full of doubt.
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佢哋中間都有好多疑難
11:06
They didn't think they'd done a good job even though they had.
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佢哋冇諗過會做得咁好
11:10
And I think that really exemplifies
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我認為,呢個測試嘅結果可以用喺
11:11
the challenge that we're dealing with here.
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我哋面對梗嘅嘢
11:14
Because, yeah --
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例如︰
核突嘅字體
11:16
the ugly font,
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11:18
the awkward stranger,
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尷尬嘅陌生人
11:20
the random move ...
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隨機嘅做法…
11:22
these disruptions help us solve problems,
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呢啲干擾其實幫梗我哋解決問題
11:25
they help us become more creative.
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幫我哋更有創意
但我哋從來並唔覺得係咁
11:28
But we don't feel that they're helping us.
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11:30
We feel that they're getting in the way ...
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我哋覺得佢哋係窒礙我哋
所以我哋抗拒佢
11:33
and so we resist.
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所以就係話點解最後呢個例子係好重要
11:36
And that's why the last example is really important.
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11:39
So I want to talk about somebody
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我諗講一個人
11:41
from the background of the world of rock 'n' roll.
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佢背景係搖滾音樂
11:46
And you may know him, he's actually a TED-ster.
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你可能認得佢,佢係一個 TEDster
11:49
His name is Brian Eno.
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佢叫布萊恩 ‧ 伊諾
11:50
He is an ambient composer -- rather brilliant.
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佢係一個出色、有實力嘅作曲家
11:53
He's also a kind of catalyst
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喺過去40年,佢都係
11:57
behind some of the great rock 'n' roll albums of the last 40 years.
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一啲好嘅搖滾音樂專輯嘅幕後推手
佢曾經同 David Bowie 喺作品 Heroes 裏面合作
12:01
He's worked with David Bowie on "Heroes,"
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12:04
he worked with U2 on "Achtung Baby" and "The Joshua Tree,"
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佢亦曾經同 U2 喺 Achtung baby 同 The Joshua Tree 裏面合作過
佢曾經同 DEVO 一齊工作
12:08
he's worked with DEVO,
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12:09
he's worked with Coldplay, he's worked with everybody.
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佢同 Coldplay 合作過 佢同每一個人都合作過
12:12
And what does he do to make these great rock bands better?
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佢做過乜令呢啲出色嘅 搖滾樂隊更加好?
12:17
Well, he makes a mess.
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佢整爛攤子
12:19
He disrupts their creative processes.
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佢干擾佢哋嘅創作過程
12:21
It's his role to be the awkward stranger.
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佢嘅角色就係頭先講過嘅陌生人
12:23
It's his role to tell them
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佢就係要話俾佢哋聽
12:25
that they have to play the unplayable piano.
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佢哋要彈嗰個彈唔到嘅鋼琴
12:28
And one of the ways in which he creates this disruption
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佢整呢啲亂攤子嘅其中一個方法係
12:31
is through this remarkable deck of cards --
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係用呢款啤牌
12:34
I have my signed copy here -- thank you, Brian.
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呢度有我親筆簽名嘅啤牌 多謝你,布萊恩
12:38
They're called The Oblique Strategies,
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佢哋被稱為 Oblique Strategies
12:40
he developed them with a friend of his.
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佢同佢朋友設計嘅
12:42
And when they're stuck in the studio,
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而當佢哋喺工作室毫無頭緒嘅時候
12:46
Brian Eno will reach for one of the cards.
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布萊恩攞其中一張卡
12:49
He'll draw one at random,
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佢隨機抽一張
12:50
and he'll make the band follow the instructions on the card.
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佢會叫樂隊按照卡上嘅說話做
12:54
So this one ...
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所以呢個…
「更改樂隊成員嘅崗位」
12:57
"Change instrument roles."
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12:58
Yeah, everyone swap instruments -- Drummer on the piano --
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每個人都要換一換位置
鼓手去彈鋼琴
13:01
Brilliant, brilliant idea.
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唔錯嘅諗法
13:03
"Look closely at the most embarrassing details. Amplify them."
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「仔細睇令人尷尬嘅細節,放大佢哋」
13:08
"Make a sudden, destructive, unpredictable action. Incorporate."
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「做一個突然、破壞性、 不可預測嘅行動。
合拼入去首歌裏面」
13:14
These cards are disruptive.
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呢啲卡係有破壞冇建設性嘅
透過一張又一張嘅專輯
13:17
Now, they've proved their worth in album after album.
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我哋見到卡嘅價值
13:21
The musicians hate them.
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但樂手好憎佢哋
13:24
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
13:25
So Phil Collins was playing drums on an early Brian Eno album.
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菲爾 ‧ 柯林斯喺早期 布賴恩嘅專輯裏面打鼓
13:29
He got so frustrated he started throwing beer cans across the studio.
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佢開始沮喪,佢開始喺工作室扔啤酒罐
13:34
Carlos Alomar, great rock guitarist,
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Carlos Alomar,傑出嘅搖滾吉他手
13:36
working with Eno on David Bowie's "Lodger" album,
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曾經同布萊恩喺 David Bowie 嘅專輯 Lodger 裏面合作
13:40
and at one point he turns to Brian and says,
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一次,佢同布賴恩話:
13:43
"Brian, this experiment is stupid."
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「布賴恩,呢個實驗係蠢嘅。」
13:49
But the thing is it was a pretty good album,
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但事實上,個專輯相當唔錯
13:53
but also,
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而且卡洛斯喺 35 年後嘅今日 都用梗 Oblique Strategies
13:55
Carlos Alomar, 35 years later, now uses The Oblique Strategies.
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13:59
And he tells his students to use The Oblique Strategies
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佢叫佢嘅學生都用 Oblique Strategies
14:02
because he's realized something.
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因為佢意識到
14:05
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't helping you.
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你唔鍾意佢,唔代表佢幫唔到你
14:12
The strategies actually weren't a deck of cards originally,
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實際上,Oblique Strategies 並非一副啤牌
14:14
they were just a list --
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佢只係一個表
喺錄音室牆上嘅一個表
14:16
list on the recording studio wall.
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14:17
A checklist of things you might try if you got stuck.
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當你卡住咗,你可以試下用嘅一個表
14:23
The list didn't work.
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但個表冇用
14:26
Know why?
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知道點解嗎?
14:29
Not messy enough.
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唔夠亂
14:31
Your eye would go down the list
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你隻眼睛會掃落個表度
14:33
and it would settle on whatever was the least disruptive,
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然後會停喺破壞性最小嘅一樣嘢
14:37
the least troublesome,
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最少麻煩嘅一樣嘢
14:40
which of course misses the point entirely.
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咁樣當然係完全冇意思啦
14:46
And what Brian Eno came to realize was,
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布萊恩覺得
14:48
yes, we need to run the stupid experiments,
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我哋需要運行做愚蠢嘅實驗
14:53
we need to deal with the awkward strangers,
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我哋需要面對尷尬嘅陌生人
我哋要讀核突嘅字體
14:55
we need to try to read the ugly fonts.
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14:57
These things help us.
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呢啲嘢幫我哋
14:58
They help us solve problems,
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解決問題
幫我哋更加有創意
15:00
they help us be more creative.
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15:01
But also ...
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而且…
15:04
we really need some persuasion if we're going to accept this.
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如果我哋要做以上嘅嘢
我哋首先要說服自己
15:08
So however we do it ...
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所以,無論我哋點做…
15:10
whether it's sheer willpower,
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無論係純粹意志力
15:12
whether it's the flip of a card
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無論係一張卡
15:15
or whether it's a guilt trip from a German teenager,
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定係 Vera 俾個彈唔到嘅琴你
15:19
all of us, from time to time,
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我哋所有人都應該定時
15:21
need to sit down and try and play the unplayable piano.
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坐低,彈嗰個彈唔到嘅琴
15:27
Thank you.
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多謝
15:28
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
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