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翻译人员: Ying Han
校对人员: Guo Tang
我在十年前从芝加哥搬到波士顿
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I moved to Boston
10 years ago from Chicago,
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with an interest in cancer
and in chemistry.
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有心研究癌症和化学
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You might know that chemistry
is the science of making molecules
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你们可能知道化学是门研究分子形成的科学
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or, to my taste,
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但对我是门研究癌症药物的学问
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new drugs for cancer.
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And you might also know that,
for science and medicine,
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你们也可能知道对科学和医药来说
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Boston is a bit of a candy store.
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波士顿有点像糖果店
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You can't roll a stop sign in Cambridge
without hitting a graduate student.
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在波士顿剑桥区的每一个十字路口
你都会碰到至少一名研究生
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The bar is called the Miracle of Science.
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在那里有叫科学奇迹的酒吧
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The billboards say "Lab Space Available."
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有叫“出租实验室”的广告牌
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And it's fair to say
that in these 10 years,
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可以说这是近十年较常见的
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we've witnessed absolutely the start
of a scientific revolution --
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其实这仅仅是我们所看到的
一个科学进化的结果,遗传基因科学的开始
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that of genome medicine.
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我们现在对来我们实验室的患者
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We know more about the patients
that enter our clinic now
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要比以前知道得多
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than ever before.
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And we're able, finally,
to answer the question
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我们终于可以回答
这个困扰我们多年的问题
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that's been so pressing for so many years:
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Why do I have cancer?
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那就是,我为什么得癌症?
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This information
is also pretty staggering.
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这个问题的答案比较复杂
你们也许已经知道
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You might know that, so far,
in just the dawn of this revolution,
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至此在这科学革命之黎明
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we know that there are perhaps
40,000 unique mutations
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我们知道大约有四万种基因变异
影响大约一万个基因
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affecting more than 10,000 genes,
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and that there are 500 of these genes
that are bona-fide drivers,
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这一万个基因中大约有五百个基因
是可恶变的
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causes of cancer.
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致癌的
相比之下
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Yet comparatively,
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we have about a dozen
targeted medications.
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我们只有大约十几个有针对性的治疗方法
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And this inadequacy of cancer medicine
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我对这种癌症治疗不足性的认识
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really hit home when my father
was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.
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深有体会是在我父亲被诊断为
胰腺癌
当时我们没有让他飞到波士顿
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We didn't fly him to Boston.
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We didn't sequence his genome.
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我们没有测试他的基因顺序
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It's been known for decades
what causes this malignancy.
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因为多年来人类已知
基因变异原因
是三种蛋白质
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It's three proteins: ras, myc, p53.
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Ras, MIC 和 P53
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This is old information
we've known since about the 80s,
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这是我们从八十年代就已经知道的老信息了,
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yet there's no medicine I can prescribe
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但至今我仍然没有药方
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to a patient with this
or any of the numerous solid tumors
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可以开给患者
不论是什么大肿瘤
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caused by these three ...
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由以上三种蛋白质引起的
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Horsemen of the Apocalypse that is cancer.
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癌症
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There's no ras, no myc, no p53 drug.
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没有针对Ras, MIC或P53的药物
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And you might fairly ask: Why is that?
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那么你可能要问:为什么会这样?
一个不令人满意的但科学的回答是
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And the very unsatisfying
yet scientific answer is:
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它太难了
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it's too hard.
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That for whatever reason,
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也就是说,不管什么原因
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these three proteins have entered
a space, in the language of our field,
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这三种蛋白质被这个领域称为
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that's called the undruggable genome --
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无药可治的基因--
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which is like calling
a computer unsurfable
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就像一台不能上网的电脑
或者是无法行走的月球
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or the Moon unwalkable.
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It's a horrible term of trade.
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这是行业里很可怕的词汇
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But what it means
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但它意味着
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is that we've failed to identify
a greasy pocket in these proteins,
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我们是否无法辨别有害蛋白质
就像在锁定分子
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into which we, like molecular locksmiths,
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can fashion an active, small,
organic molecule or drug substance.
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可以演变成小段活动有机分子一样
或者是药物替代品
现在我受训于临床医学,
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Now, as I was training
in clinical medicine
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血液学,肿瘤学
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and hematology and oncology
and stem-cell transplantation,
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及干细胞移植
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what we had instead,
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我们有的是
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cascading through the regulatory
network at the FDA,
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从美国食品和药物管理局批下来的
这些药物,包括
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were these substances:
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arsenic,
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砷, 莎利宝迈
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thalidomide,
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及化学引发物来自
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and this chemical derivative
of nitrogen mustard gas.
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氮糜爛性的芥氣
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And this is the 21st century.
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我们已经是处在21世纪了
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And so, I guess you'd say,
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我想你们应该不满于
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dissatisfied with the performance
and quality of these medicines,
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今天的医学表现和质量
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I went back to school, in chemistry,
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我因此回到了化学学院
想到
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with the idea that perhaps by learning
the trade of discovery chemistry
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也许通过化学发现
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and approaching it in the context
of this brave new world
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进入这个新的领域
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of the open source,
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以开发源码式,
群体合作式,
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the crowd source,
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the collaborative network
that we have access to within academia,
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通过一个学术研发合作网络
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that we might more quickly bring
powerful and targeted therapies
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我们也许可以更快地
把有效的和有目标的治疗方法
带给我们的患者
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to our patients.
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And so, please consider
this a work in progress,
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请对这个正在运行的工作给予考虑
我今天给你们讲一个故事
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but I'd like to tell you today a story
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这是有关一种非常罕见的癌症
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about a very rare cancer
called midline carcinoma,
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它叫中线癌
相关蛋白质目标,
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about the undruggable protein target
that causes this cancer,
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是一种不可治愈的蛋白质目标引起这种癌症
它叫BRD4
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called BRD4,
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and about a molecule developed at my lab
at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute,
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及相关分子
是由我在妲妠珐波尔癌症学院的实验室开放出来的
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called JQ1,
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叫JQ1,我们昵称它军齐(Jun Qi),
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which we affectionately named for Jun Qi,
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与做出这个分子的化学家同名
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the chemist that made this molecule.
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Now, BRD4 is an interesting protein.
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BRD4是一种有趣的蛋白质
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You might ask: with all the things
cancer's trying to do to kill our patient,
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你可能要问自己, 癌症在用各种方法试图杀害我们的患者,
它怎么会记得它是癌症呢?
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how does it remember it's cancer?
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当它把它的遗传物质卷起来,
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When it winds up its genome,
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divides into two cells and unwinds again,
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分成两个细胞,再展开
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why does it not turn
into an eye, into a liver,
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为什么它不变成一只眼睛,一个肝脏
充分使用它所有的基因呢?
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as it has all the genes
necessary to do this?
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It remembers that it's cancer.
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它记得它是癌症
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And the reason is that cancer,
like every cell in the body,
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原因是它是癌症,就像人体内的每个细胞上
放有细小的分子标记,
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places little molecular bookmarks,
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就像便利贴
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little Post-it notes,
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that remind the cell, "I'm cancer;
I should keep growing."
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提醒细胞“我是癌症,我应当不停的长大"
而那些便利贴
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And those Post-it notes involve this
and other proteins of its class --
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引进这个蛋白质和它同级的别种蛋白质
这些别种蛋白质叫做Bromodomains.
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so-called bromodomains.
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So we developed an idea, a rationale,
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以此我们推理
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that perhaps if we made a molecule
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或许,如果我们造出一个分子
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that prevented
the Post-it note from sticking
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避免让便利贴粘到它
让便利贴进入小口袋
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by entering into the little pocket
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at the base of this spinning protein,
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口袋位置在这旋转的蛋白质基底上
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then maybe we could convince cancer cells,
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那么,也许我们能够让癌细胞相信
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certainly those addicted
to this BRD4 protein,
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尽管染上BRD4蛋白质
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that they're not cancer.
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但它们不是癌细胞
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And so we started to work on this problem.
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于是我们开始着手解决这个问题
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We developed libraries of compounds
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我们开发了合成物储藏馆
我们逐渐得到今天的结果及类似的物质
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and eventually arrived
at this and similar substances
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它叫JQ1.
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called JQ1.
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Now, not being a drug company,
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因为我们不是制药公司,
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we could do certain things,
we had certain flexibilities,
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我们能够做一些事情,有一些灵活度
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that I respect that a pharmaceutical
industry doesn't have.
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这些是制药业所没有的
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We just started mailing it to our friends.
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我们刚刚开始把它寄给我们的朋友
我有个小实验室
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I have a small lab.
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We thought we'd just send it to people
and see how the molecule behaves.
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我们想我们就把它寄给别人,看这分子如何表现
于是我们把它寄给了英国牛津
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We sent it to Oxford, England,
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那里的结晶师给了我们这个照片
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where a group of talented
crystallographers provided this picture,
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它帮助我们了解到
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which helped us understand exactly
how this molecule is so potent
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这个分子是如何对这种蛋白质目标准确地施力
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for this protein target.
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It's what we call a perfect fit
of shape complementarity,
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它就是我们所说的完美对象
拥有相配的外体,就像戴着手套的手
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or hand in glove.
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这是一种罕见的癌症
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Now, this is a very rare cancer,
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一种BRD4附体的癌症。
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this BRD4-addicted cancer.
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我们使用的样本材料
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And so we worked with samples of material
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that were collected by young pathologists
at Brigham and Women's Hospital.
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来自布利格姆妇女医院的年轻病理学家
我们用我们的这种分子了治疗这些样本细胞
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And as we treated these cells
with this molecule,
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we observed something really striking.
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我们观察到非常惊人的结果
这些癌细胞
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The cancer cells --
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small, round and rapidly dividing,
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又小又圆,快速分裂
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grew these arms and extensions.
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长出胳膊和延长部分
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They were changing shape.
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它们还变形
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In effect,
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实际上,癌细胞
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the cancer cell
was forgetting it was cancer
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正在忘记它是癌细胞
而且在转变成正常细胞
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and becoming a normal cell.
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这个观察让我们很兴奋
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This got us very excited.
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下一步是把这分子注入的老鼠身上
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The next step would be to put
this molecule into mice.
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The only problem was there's no
mouse model of this rare cancer.
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我们唯一的问题是没有患有这种罕见癌症的老鼠
就在这个研究过程中
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And so at the time
we were doing this research,
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I was caring for a 29-year-old
firefighter from Connecticut
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我在康州治疗一位29岁的消防员
他已接近他的生命终点了
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who was very much at the end of life
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with this incurable cancer.
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就是因为这种不可治愈的癌症
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This BRD4-addicted cancer
was growing throughout his left lung.
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这种BRD4附体的癌症
正在他的左肺里扩散
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And he had a chest tube in
that was draining little bits of debris.
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他靠左胸上插的一细管来排除废物
每个护士轮班期间
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And every nursing shift,
we would throw this material out.
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都要把细管内废物清掉
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And so we approached this patient
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因此我们找到这位患者
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and asked if he would collaborate with us.
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问他是否愿意与我们合作
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Could we take this precious
and rare cancerous material
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我们是否可以把他稀有的,拥有癌症的排泄物
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from this chest tube
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从细管里拿出来
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and drive it across town
and put it into mice
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送到城的另一边,注入到老鼠身上
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and try to do a clinical trial
at a stage that with a prototype drug,
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通过临床试验
做成药物初本?
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well, that would be, of course, impossible
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但是,这不可能,人体试验不道德,不合法
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and, rightly, illegal to do in humans.
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而且他已为我们尽了义务
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And he obliged us.
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At the Lurie Family Center
for Animal Imaging,
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在卢瑞家庭动物图像中心
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our colleague, Andrew Kung,
grew this cancer successfully in mice
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我的同事安德鲁•康成功地把这癌症转到了老鼠身上
他在这过程中连塑料都没有碰
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without ever touching plastic.
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And you can see this PET scan
of a mouse -- what we call a pet PET.
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你可以看看这老鼠的PET扫描,我们叫它老鼠PET
这癌症在扩散
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The cancer is growing
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as this red, huge mass
in the hind limb of this animal.
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也就是这老鼠后肢上的大块红色组织
我们用我们的合成物对老鼠进行治疗
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And as we treat it with our compound,
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加上糖分
07:04
this addiction to sugar,
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癌细胞不扩散了
07:06
this rapid growth, faded.
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And on the animal on the right,
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在这动物的右侧
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you see that the cancer was responding.
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你可以看到癌症在反应
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We've completed, now, clinical trials
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我们现在已完成动物实验
用了4个动物模本
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in four mouse models of this disease.
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每一次我们都看到同样的结果
07:17
And every time, we see the same thing.
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The mice with this cancer
that get the drug live,
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患有癌症的老鼠用药后活了下来
而那些没有用药的就很快死掉了
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and the ones that don't rapidly perish.
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于是我们开始思考
07:26
So we started to wonder,
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what would a drug company
do at this point?
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此时制药公司会做什么?
07:29
Well, they probably
would keep this a secret
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也许他们会把秘密保留下来
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until they turn the prototype drug
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直到他们把药物雏形
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into an active pharmaceutical substance.
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变成一种活跃的药物实体
而我们恰恰会做相反的事
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So we did just the opposite.
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我们发表了一篇文章
07:38
We published a paper
that described this finding
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描述了我们的发现
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at the earliest prototype stage.
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尽管是早期雏形
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We gave the world the chemical
identity of this molecule,
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我们向世界提供了这种分子的化学身份
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typically a secret in our discipline.
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这是违反我们业内常规
07:48
We told people exactly how to make it.
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我们准确告诉了所有人如何制作这种分子
我们提供了我们的电子信箱地址
07:51
We gave them our email address,
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07:52
suggesting that if they write us,
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向人们提议如果他们写信给我们
07:54
we'll send them a free molecule.
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我们会为他们提供免费分子
07:56
(Laughter)
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我们基本上是试图创造
07:57
We basically tried to create
the most competitive environment
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我们自己的实验室所能面对的最具竞争力的环境
08:00
for our lab as possible.
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不幸的是, 很成功
08:01
And this was, unfortunately, successful.
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(笑声)
08:03
(Laughter)
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08:04
Because now, we've shared this molecule,
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因为我们现在与众分享我们的分子
08:06
just since December of last year,
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就从去年12月
08:08
with 40 laboratories in the United States
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和美国的40家实验室,
欧洲30多家实验室,
08:11
and 30 more in Europe --
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其中很多是来自制药公司
08:13
many of them pharmaceutical companies,
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08:14
seeking now to enter this space,
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开始进入这个领域
08:16
to target this rare cancer
that, thankfully right now,
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目标是这个罕见的癌症
有幸的是,现在这是
08:20
is quite desirable
to study in that industry.
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我们行业里比较合乎需求的
来自这些实验室的
08:25
But the science that's coming back
from all of these laboratories
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对这分子的研究
08:28
about the use of this molecule
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已经为我们提供
08:30
has provided us insights
we might not have had on our own.
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我们自己不可能得到的洞悉
08:33
Leukemia cells treated with this compound
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用这种合成物治疗过的白血病细胞
08:35
turn into normal white blood cells.
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会转变成正常白血球
08:38
Mice with multiple myeloma,
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患有骨髓瘤的老鼠
08:40
an incurable malignancy
of the bone marrow,
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在骨髓里带有不可治愈的癌症,
08:43
respond dramatically
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会明显的接受
08:45
to the treatment with this drug.
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这种药物治疗
08:47
You might know that fat has memory.
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你可能知道脂肪带有记忆
能够向你们演示这个真的很好
08:50
I'll nicely demonstrate that for you.
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08:52
(Laughter)
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08:53
In fact, this molecule
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事实上,这种分子
08:55
prevents this adipocyte,
this fat stem cell,
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避免这种含脂肪细胞,这种肥胖干细胞
08:58
from remembering how to make fat,
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记忆发胖
09:01
such that mice on a high-fat diet,
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比如说高脂肪饮食的老鼠
09:03
like the folks
in my hometown of Chicago --
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就像我芝加哥故乡人
09:06
(Laughter)
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不会得脂肪肝,
09:07
fail to develop fatty liver,
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一个重大医学问题
09:09
which is a major medical problem.
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这个研究教给我们 -
09:12
What this research taught us --
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09:13
not just my lab, but our institute,
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不止我的实验室,而且我们学院
及哈佛医学院,更广泛的讲 -
09:16
and Harvard Medical School
more generally --
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我们拥有学术界独有的资源
09:18
is that we have unique
resources in academia
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有助于药物发现 -
09:20
for drug discovery;
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09:21
that our center, which has tested
perhaps more cancer molecules
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也就是说,我们中心
尽管我们以科学方式测试过很多癌症分子,
09:25
in a scientific way
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远多于其他中心,
09:26
than any other,
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09:27
never made one of its own.
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但我们从来没有制作过任何癌症分子
09:29
For all the reasons you see listed here,
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从那些你们能够看到的理由
09:31
we think there's a great
opportunity for academic centers
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我们认为学术研究中心有很好的机会
09:34
to participate in this earliest,
conceptually tricky
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参与早期,概念化,
和有创意的领域
09:38
and creative discipline
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09:40
of prototype drug discovery.
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去发现药物雏形
那么,下一步是什么?
09:45
So what next?
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09:46
We have this molecule,
but it's not a pill yet.
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我们有了这个分子,但它还不是药片
它还不可口服。
09:49
It's not orally bioavailable.
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09:51
We need to fix it so we can
deliver it to our patients.
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我们需要改变它,以便可以送给我们的患者。
09:54
And everyone in the lab,
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每一位在实验室工作的人,
09:56
especially following the interaction
with these patients,
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特别是那些与患者直接打交道的人,
深刻体会
09:59
feels quite compelled
to deliver a drug substance
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把这分子变成药物的紧迫性。
10:01
based on this molecule.
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10:02
It's here where I'd say
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我在这里要说的是
10:04
that we could use your help
and your insights,
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我们可以使用你们的帮助,你们的洞悉,
10:06
your collaborative participation.
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你们的合作参与。
10:08
Unlike a drug company,
we don't have a pipeline
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不像制药公司,
我们不需要有储放这些分子的管道。
10:12
that we can deposit these molecules into.
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我们不一定要有一批销售人员和市场开发人员,
10:14
We don't have a team
of salespeople and marketeers
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10:16
to tell us how to position
this drug against the other.
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不需要有这些人告诉我们如何给这药定位。
10:19
What we do have is the flexibility
of an academic center
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我们拥有的是学术中心的灵活度
以便集中合作与有能力,有动力,
10:22
to work with competent, motivated,
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10:24
enthusiastic, hopefully well-funded people
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有激情,又最好有资助的人
10:27
to carry these molecules
forward into the clinic
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来把这些分子推入临床
10:29
while preserving our ability
to share the prototype drug worldwide.
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同时保留我们有
与世界分享药物雏形的能力。
10:34
This molecule will soon leave our benches
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这种分子将很快离开我们
走向一家小的创业公司
10:37
and go into a small start-up company
called Tensha Therapeutics.
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它叫Tensha Therapeutics。
10:40
And, really, this is the fourth
of these molecules
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这真的是第四种分子
10:43
to kind of "graduate"
from our little pipeline
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从我们小小的药物发现管道里毕业
10:45
of drug discovery,
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其它两种 - 一种是常用药
10:47
two of which -- a topical drug
for lymphoma of the skin
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用于治疗皮肤癌,
10:52
and an oral substance for the treatment
of multiple myeloma --
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另一种是治疗几种骨髓癌的口服药 -
10:55
will actually come to the bedside
for the first clinical trial
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将很快来到床边
今年7月进入初期临床试验。
10:58
in July of this year -- for us,
a major and exciting milestone.
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对我们来说,这是一个重大及令人兴奋的里程碑
11:03
I want to leave you with just two ideas.
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我想要给你们留下两个主意。
11:05
The first is: if anything is unique
about this research,
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第一个是
如果我们这个研究有什么特别的话,
11:10
it's less the science than the strategy.
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那是较少的科学更多的战略
11:12
This, for us, was a social experiment --
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给了我们一个社会试验
它向我们显示了什么是可能发生的,
11:15
an experiment in "What would happen
if we were as open and honest
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如果我们开放和诚实
11:20
at the earliest phase
of discovery chemistry research
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在发现化学研究最早期
11:22
as we could be?"
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尽我们所及之力。
11:24
This string of letters and numbers
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这一串字母和数字
11:26
and symbols and parentheses
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标码和括弧
11:28
that can be texted, I suppose,
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我想是可以通过短信发出
11:30
or Twittered worldwide,
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或者是微博到全世界
是我们这个合成物的化学身份。
11:33
is the chemical identity
of our pro compound.
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11:35
It's the information that we most need
from pharmaceutical companies,
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我们最需要的信息
来自制药公司,
11:39
the information on how these early
prototype drugs might work.
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这信息
是有关早期药物雏形如何工作。
11:44
Yet this information is largely a secret.
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至今,这样的信息大多数是行业秘密。
11:47
And so we seek, really, to download
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所以我们正在寻求的
是下载惊人的成功,
11:50
from the amazing successes
of the computer-science industry,
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两个原则,来自计算机学行业:
11:53
two principles -- that of open source
and that of crowdsourcing --
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那就是开放源码和群体源码
尽快地,负责地,
11:58
to quickly, responsibly accelerate
the delivery of targeted therapeutics
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把目标治疗法送给
12:04
to patients with cancer.
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癌症患者
12:06
Now, the business model
involves all of you.
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这个商业模式需要我们都参与
12:09
This research is funded by the public.
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这个研究借助于公共资源
12:11
It's funded by foundations.
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它是由基金会资助的
12:13
And one thing I've learned in Boston
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另外,我在波士顿学到一样东西
12:15
is that you people will do anything
for cancer, and I love that.
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那就是,你们所有人将都会为癌症治疗做事 - 我很喜欢。
有人骑单车跨州,有人走路过河
12:18
You bike across the state,
you walk up and down the river.
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(笑声)
12:21
(Laughter)
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我在哪里都没有见过
12:23
I've never seen, really, anywhere,
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如此独特地
12:25
this unique support for cancer research.
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支持癌症研究。
12:28
And so I want to thank you
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我还要感谢你们
12:30
for your participation, your collaboration
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感谢你们的参与,你们的合作
12:33
and most of all,
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更多的是你们对我们的信心。
12:35
for your confidence in our ideas.
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(鼓掌)
12:37
(Applause)
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