How the mysterious dark net is going mainstream | Jamie Bartlett

3,914,702 views ・ 2015-09-24

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翻译人员: Mingxu Chen 校对人员: Zhiting Chen
00:12
If you want to buy high-quality, low-price cocaine,
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如果你想买一些物美价廉的可卡因,
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there really is only one place to go,
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你只能去一个地方:
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and that is the dark net anonymous markets.
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那就是暗网匿名市场。
00:25
Now, you can't get to these sites
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但是你不能通过
00:27
with a normal browser -- Chrome or Firefox --
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一个普通的浏览器:谷歌或者火狐, 来进入这种网站 --
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because they're on this hidden part of the Internet,
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因为他们是在因特网的 一个隐秘的角落:
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known as Tor hidden services,
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叫做 Tor 隐藏服务,
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where URLs are a string of meaningless numbers and letters that end in .onion,
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它把URL变成一串没有任何意义的数字和字母, 以.onion(洋葱)结尾,
00:41
and which you access with a special browser
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你要用一个特殊的浏览器来连接它:
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called the Tor browser.
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Tor 浏览器。
00:46
Now, the Tor browser was originally a U.S. Naval intelligence project.
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Tor 浏览器原本 是一个美国海军情报项目,
00:51
It then became open source,
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之后它便被公开了,
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and it allows anybody to browse the net
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任何人都能浏览网页,
00:55
without giving away their location.
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并且不让自己的位置被他人所知。
00:58
And it does this by encrypting your IP address
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它通过转换你的IP地址,
01:02
and then routing it via several other computers around the world
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并且在全世界 都在用这个软件的电脑中
01:06
that use the same software.
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不断变换来做到这一点。
01:09
You can use it on the normal Internet,
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你可以用它上普通的网页,
01:11
but it's also your key to the dark net.
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但是它也是通往暗网的钥匙。
01:16
And because of this fiendishly clever encryption system,
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因为这个机智到可恶的转换系统,
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the 20 or 30 -- we don't know exactly -- thousand sites that operate there
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两万或三万 -- 我们不知道到底有多少 -- 在它上面运营的成千上万的网页
01:24
are incredibly difficult to shut down.
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都基本不可能被关闭。
01:28
It is a censorship-free world visited by anonymous users.
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这是一个没有审查的世界 被匿名的人们浏览着。
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Little wonder, then, that it's a natural place to go
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没有疑问,如果有人要隐藏什么东西,
01:39
for anybody with something to hide,
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它自然是最好的选择,
01:41
and that something, of course, need not be illegal.
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那个东西,当然了, 也许并不是违法的。
01:46
On the dark net, you will find
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在暗网上,你会找到
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whistle-blower sites, The New Yorker.
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告发丑闻的爆料网站,纽约客。
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You will find political activism blogs.
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你会找到政治激进分子的博客。
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You will find libraries of pirated books.
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你会找到盗版书图书馆。
01:56
But you'll also find the drugs markets,
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但是你也会找到毒品交易市场,
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illegal pornography, commercial hacking services,
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违法成人影片, 商业黑客服务,
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and much more besides.
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等等。
02:06
Now, the dark net is one of the most interesting, exciting places
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现在,暗网已经成为了互联网上
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anywhere on the net.
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最有趣最刺激的地方。
02:13
And the reason is, because although innovation, of course,
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因为,尽管我们一直认为 只有大的商业企业
02:17
takes place in big businesses,
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或者综合性的顶级大学
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takes place in world-class universities,
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才会一直在追求创新发展,
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it also takes place in the fringes,
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创新其实也发生在 一些社会边缘人群中,
02:24
because those on the fringes -- the pariahs, the outcasts --
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因为那些边缘人群 -- 社会底层人群,那些被排斥的存在--
02:29
they're often the most creative, because they have to be.
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常常是最有创造力的, 因为他们不得不这样。
02:33
In this part of the Internet,
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在这一部分的网络中,
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you will not find a single lolcat,
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你不会发现任何一只猫图 (互联网流行文化lolcat)
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a single pop-up advert anywhere.
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任何一个弹窗广告
02:41
And that's one of the reasons why I think
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这是其中一个原因为什么我认为
02:43
many of you here will be on the dark net fairly soon.
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在座的很多人很快就会开始使用暗网。
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
02:50
Not that I'm suggesting anyone in this audience would use it
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别误会,我并没有建议 在座所有人应该去用暗网,
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to go and procure high-quality narcotics.
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去拿高质量的毒品。
02:56
But let's say for a moment that you were.
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但是让我们假装现在你们都这样做。
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
03:00
Bear with me.
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忍一下吧!
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The first thing you will notice on signing up to one of these sites
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当你在这些网页上注册的时候,
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is how familiar it looks.
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你会感到这些页面很眼熟。
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Every single product --
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每一个产品 --
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thousands of products --
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上千个产品 --
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has a glossy, high-res image,
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都有一个高清的图片,
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a detailed product description, a price.
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一个详细的产品介绍和价格。
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There's a "Proceed to checkout" icon.
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有一个 ”去结算“按钮。
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There is even, most beautifully of all,
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甚至还有一个,非常漂亮惊人的,
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a "Report this item" button.
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”举报这个物品“按钮。
03:30
(Laughter)
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(笑)
03:33
Incredible.
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难以置信。
03:35
You browse through the site, you make your choice,
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当你浏览这些网页的时候, 你要做出选择,
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you pay with the crypto-currency bitcoin,
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你用比特币支付,
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you enter an address -- preferably not your home address --
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你输入一个地址 -- 应该不会是你的家庭住址 --
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and you wait for your product to arrive in the post,
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你等着你的物品被送到你手里,
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which it nearly always does.
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它们总会被送到的。
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And the reason it does is not because of the clever encryption.
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之所以它们会被送到, 是因为那个机智的转换加密系统。
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That's important.
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这很重要。
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Something far simpler than that.
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还有一个更简单的事情:
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It's the user reviews.
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用户评价。
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
04:01
You see, every single vendor on these sites
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你知道,每一个卖家在这些网页上,
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uses a pseudonym, naturally enough,
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很自然都会用一个假名,
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but they keep the same pseudonym to build up a reputation.
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但是他们会用同一个假名来 累计名声。
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And because it's easy for the buyer to change allegiance whenever they want,
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因为买家往往会随心所欲地 更改他们的昵称,
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the only way of trusting a vendor
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唯一的一个办法能让他们信任一个卖家,
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is if they have a good history of positive feedback
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就是那个卖家 在这个网页其他用户反馈中,
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from other users of the site.
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有一个很好的声誉和交易历史。
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And this introduction of competition and choice
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这种竞争与选择的关系,
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does exactly what the economists would predict.
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会完全按照 经济学家的预测的那样发展下去。
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Prices tend to go down, product quality tends to go up,
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价格会下降, 与此同时产品质量上升。
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and the vendors are attentive,
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卖家对买家关注度很高,
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they're polite, they're consumer-centric,
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他们很有礼貌,以顾客为中心,
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offering you all manner of special deals, one-offs,
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给你介绍所有的特殊优惠,
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buy-one-get-one-frees, free delivery,
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买一赠一,免费运送,
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to keep you happy.
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让你开心。
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I spoke to Drugsheaven.
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我和“毒品天堂”聊过一次。
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Drugsheaven was offering excellent and consistent marijuana
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“毒品天堂“提供物美价廉的
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at a reasonable price.
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大麻。
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He had a very generous refund policy,
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他有一个很慷慨的退货政策,
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detailed T's and C's,
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详细的介绍和条款,
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and good shipping times.
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以及非常好的邮寄时间。
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"Dear Drugsheaven," I wrote,
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“亲爱的毒品天堂”,我写道,
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via the internal emailing system that's also encrypted, of course.
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在网络的匿名邮件系统中。
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"I'm new here. Do you mind if I buy just one gram of marijuana?"
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“我是新来的。 你能卖给我一克的大麻吗?”
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A couple of hours later, I get a reply.
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几小时后,我得到了回复。
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They always reply.
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他们绝对会回复你。
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"Hi there, thanks for your email.
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“你好,谢谢你的邮件,
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Starting small is a wise thing to do. I would, too, if I were you."
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从小剂量开始是很聪明的做法。 如果我是你,我也会这么做。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
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"So no problem if you'd like to start with just one gram.
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“所以如果你只想买一克, 是没有问题的。
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I do hope we can do business together.
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希望我们能够一起做生意。
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Best wishes, Drugsheaven."
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此致敬礼,毒品天堂。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
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I don't know why he had a posh English accent, but I assume he did.
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我不知道为什么他有英国的上层社会口音, 但是我认为他有。
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Now, this kind of consumer-centric attitude
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现在,这种以顾客为中心的态度,
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is the reason why, when I reviewed 120,000 pieces of feedback
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解释了为什么, 当我浏览12万条用户反馈,
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that had been left on one of these sites over a three-month period,
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在三个月的时间内留下的留言时,
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95 percent of them were five out of five.
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95%给了五星。
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The customer, you see, is king.
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顾客,是王。
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But what does that mean?
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但是这又意味着什么?
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Well, on the one hand,
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一方面,
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that means there are more drugs, more available, more easily,
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这意味着现在有更多的毒品 可以更加便捷更容易
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to more people.
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被更多的人买到。
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And by my reckoning, that is not a good thing.
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我想, 这不是一件好事。
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But, on the other hand, if you are going to take drugs,
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但是,另一方面, 如果你想要吸毒,
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you have a reasonably good way
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你会有一个很好的办法
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of guaranteeing a certain level of purity and quality,
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来确保你的毒品的纯度和质量,
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which is incredibly important if you're taking drugs.
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如果你要吸毒,这是非常重要的。
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And you can do so from the comfort of your own home,
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你可以安安心心的 在家里买到毒品,
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without the risks associated with buying on the streets.
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而不是冒险在街上购买。
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Now, as I said,
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现在,就像我所说的,
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you've got to be creative and innovative to survive in this marketplace.
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你要有创造力和创新力 才能在这个市场中生存下来。
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And the 20 or so sites that are currently in operation --
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在20多家正在营业的店铺网站中 --
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by the way, they don't always work, they're not always perfect;
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顺便说一下,他们并不是一直都会开业, 也不是一直都很完美;
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the site that I showed you was shut down 18 months ago,
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刚才我给你们展示的网站, 在18个月前就被关闭了,
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but not before it had turned over a billion dollars' worth of trade.
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但是在此之前, 它已经进行了近十亿美金的交易了。
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But these markets,
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但是这些市场,
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because of the difficult conditions in which they are operating,
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因为他们的营业环境很是复杂困难,
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the inhospitable conditions,
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高风险,
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are always innovating, always thinking of ways of getting smarter,
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他们一直在创新, 一直在想办法更机智地营销。
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more decentralized, harder to censor,
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分散化,不要被审查到,
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and more customer-friendly.
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更以顾客为中心。
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Let's take the payment system.
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我们看一看支付系统。
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You don't pay with your credit card,
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你不用你的信用卡付款,
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of course -- that would lead directly back to you.
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当然了 -- 这会让你的身份暴露。
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So you use the crypto-currency bitcoin,
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所以你用网络货币比特币,
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which is easily exchanged for real-world currencies
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很容易就能换成现实世界的现金,
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and gives quite a high degree of anonymity to its users.
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并且能高度保护用户隐私。
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But at the beginning of these sites, people noticed a flaw.
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刚开始有这些网站的时候, 人们发现了一个漏洞。
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Some of the unscrupulous dealers were running away with peoples' bitcoin
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一些可恶的卖家携款逃跑,
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before they'd mailed the drugs out.
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而不给你寄毒品。
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The community came up with a solution, called multi-signature escrow payments.
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这个团体想出了一个解决方法: 多重签名第三方契约系统。
08:07
So on purchasing my item,
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当我购买物品,
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I would send my bitcoin
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我能把我的比特币寄出去,
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to a neutral, secure third digital wallet.
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到一个中立的安全的第三方电子钱包。
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The vendor, who would see that I'd sent it,
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卖家,会看到我已经寄出去了,
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would be confident that they could then send the product to me,
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就相信他们可以把毒品寄给我了,
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and then when I received it,
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当我收到的时候,
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at least two of the three people engaged in the transaction --
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至少2-3人参与了这次交易--
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vendor, buyer, site administrator --
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卖家,买家,网站管理者,
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would have to sign the transaction off
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要联手签名通过这次交易,
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with a unique digital signature,
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通过一个独特的电子签名,
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and then the money would be transferred.
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然后,钱就能被转账到卖家那里的。
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Brilliant!
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厉害!
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Elegant.
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优雅。
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It works.
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实用。
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But then they realized there was a problem with bitcoin,
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但是他们意识到比特币有个问题,
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because every bitcoin transaction
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因为每次的比特币交易
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is actually recorded publicly in a public ledger.
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都会被一个公共账簿记录下来,
08:49
So if you're clever, you can try and work out who's behind them.
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所以如果你足够聪明, 你就能发现谁在幕后操作。
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So they came up with a tumbling service.
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所以他们研究出了一种滚动转移服务。
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Hundreds of people send their bitcoin into one address,
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上百人把他们的比特币转到一个地址下,
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they're tumbled and jumbled up,
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它们”翻滚“并杂乱地混在一起,
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and then the right amount is sent on to the right recipients,
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然后,正确的金额 被转账到正确的接受人那里,
09:05
but they're different bitcoins:
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但这些是不同的比特币了:
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micro-laundering systems.
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微型洗钱系统。
09:09
(Laughter)
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(笑)
09:10
It's incredible.
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这很不可思议。
09:11
Interested in what drugs are trending right now on the dark net markets?
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对现在毒品销售在暗网上的趋势感兴趣?
09:17
Check Grams, the search engine.
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试一下Grams,一个搜索引擎。
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You can even buy some advertising space.
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你甚至可以买一些广告位。
09:21
(Laughter)
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(笑)
09:23
Are you an ethical consumer worried about what the drugs industry is doing?
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你是一个有道德的顾客, 担忧现在制毒产业的发展情形?
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Yeah.
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是的。
09:30
One vendor will offer you fair trade organic cocaine.
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一个卖家能给你 价格公道的有机可卡因。
09:34
(Laughter)
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(笑)
09:35
That's not being sourced from Colombian druglords,
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这些不是从哥伦比亚的毒枭那里买的,
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but Guatemalan farmers.
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而是从瓜地马拉的农民那里拿到的。
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They even promised to reinvest 20 percent of any profits
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他们甚至承诺会把利润的20%
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into local education programs.
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投资到当地教育中。
09:45
(Laughter)
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(笑)
09:46
There's even a mystery shopper.
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甚至还有一个神秘的买家。
09:48
Now, whatever you think about the morality of these sites --
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不管你对这些网站的道德作风 有何想法 --
09:52
and I submit that it's not actually an easy question --
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我承认建立这样的网站 都不是一个容易的问题 --
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the creation of functioning, competitive, anonymous markets,
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它是一个运转流畅, 竞争激烈的匿名市场,
10:01
where nobody knows who anybody else is,
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在那里每个人都不知道对方是谁,
10:03
constantly at risk of being shut down by the authorities,
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一直承受着被当局关掉的风险,
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is a staggering achievement,
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这是一个惊人的成就,
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a phenomenal achievement.
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一个伟大的成就。
10:12
And it's that kind of innovation
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就是这种创新,
10:16
that's why those on the fringes
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让那些边缘产业和人们,
10:18
are often the harbingers of what is to come.
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成为未来的先知。
10:22
It's easy to forget
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很容易就被忘记的是,
10:24
that because of its short life,
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因为它很短命,
10:26
the Internet has actually changed many times
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互联网其实已经经历了几次改变,
10:30
over the last 30 years or so.
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在30年的时间中。
10:31
It started in the '70s as a military project,
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它在70年代由一个军事项目而启动,
10:34
morphed in the 1980s to an academic network,
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在1980年代转变成了学术网络,
10:38
co-opted by commercial companies in the '90s,
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90年代被商业公司合作经营,
10:41
and then invaded by all of us via social media in the noughties,
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现在被我们所有人以社交网络入侵,
10:44
but I think it's going to change again.
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但是我觉得它还会改变。
10:47
And I think things like the dark net markets --
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我认为一些东西 就像暗网市场 --
10:49
creative, secure, difficult to censor --
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富有创造力,安全,很难去审查 --
10:53
I think that's the future.
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这是未来。
10:56
And the reason it's the future
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为什么呢,
10:58
is because we're all worried about our privacy.
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因为我们都很在意我们的隐私。
11:01
Surveys consistently show concerns about privacy.
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调查一直在显示对于隐私保护的关注。
11:04
The more time we spend online, the more we worry about them,
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我们花更多时间上网 我们就更担心,
11:08
and those surveys show our worries are growing.
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这些调查显示 我们的焦虑正在增长。
11:10
We're worried about what happens to our data.
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我们关心我们的数据会怎样。
11:12
We're worried about who might be watching us.
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我们担心谁在监视着我们。
11:15
Since the revelations from Edward Snowden,
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因为爱德华·斯诺登的爆料,
11:17
there's been a huge increase in the number of people
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现在越来越多的人们,
11:20
using various privacy-enhancing tools.
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开始使用加强隐私保护的工具。
11:23
There are now between two and three million daily users
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现在有两百到三百万的日常用户
11:26
of the Tor browser,
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使用Tor浏览器。
11:27
the majority of which use is perfectly legitimate,
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大部分用来做完全合法的事情,
11:33
sometimes even mundane.
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有时候只是用于很普通的浏览。
11:35
And there are hundreds of activists around the world
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全世界有数百个积极分子
11:38
working on techniques and tools to keep you private online --
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使用技术和工具来 帮助你保护隐私 --
11:45
default encrypted messaging services.
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默认信息加密服务。
11:47
Ethereum, which is a project which tries to link up
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Ethereum,一个尝试去把
11:51
the connected but unused hard drives of millions of computers around the world,
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上百万的连接在一起却没被使用的硬盘 联机起来的项目
11:56
to create a sort of distributed Internet that no one really controls.
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来创造一个发散性的网络, 没有人能够控制。
12:00
Now, we've had distributed computing before, of course.
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现在,我们以前当然有过 发散性的系统。
12:03
We use it for everything from Skype to the search for extraterrestrial life.
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我们用它做很多事情 从Skype聊天到搜索外星生命。
12:07
But you add distributed computing and powerful encryption --
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但是如果你把发散性系统和 强大的加密系统联系在一起
12:12
that's very, very hard to censor and control.
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就会非常非常难以审查和控制。
12:16
Another called MaidSafe works on similar principles.
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另一个叫做MadiSafe, 是相似的系统。
12:19
Another called Twister, and so on and so on.
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还有一个叫做Twister, 等等,等等。
12:23
And here's the thing --
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就是这样 --
12:25
the more of us join,
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更多人的加入
12:26
the more interesting those sites become,
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让它变的更有趣,
12:29
and then the more of us join, and so on.
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然后更多人就回去加入, 周而复始。
12:32
And I think that's what's going to happen.
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我觉得这是马上要发生的事情。
12:34
In fact, it's already happening.
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实际上,它已经发生了。
12:36
The dark net is no longer a den for dealers
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暗网已经不是交易者的窝点
12:40
and a hideout for whistle-blowers.
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或者违法者的藏匿处。
12:42
It's already going mainstream.
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它已经变成主流了。
12:45
Just recently, the musician Aphex Twin released his album as a dark net site.
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最近,音乐家Aphex Twin 把他新专辑用暗网网站的方式发行。
12:52
Facebook has started a dark net site.
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脸书已经有了一个暗网网站地址。
12:56
A group of London architects have opened a dark net site
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一群伦敦的建筑师 已经建立了一个暗网网站,
12:59
for people worried about regeneration projects.
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给担心再生空间计划的人们。
13:02
Yes, the dark net is going mainstream,
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是的,暗网正在成为主流。
13:05
and I predict that fairly soon, every social media company,
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我预言,很快, 每一个社交网站公司,
13:09
every major news outlet,
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甚至大型新闻公司,
13:10
and therefore most of you in this audience,
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以及大部分的你们, 在这里听我说话,
13:13
will be using the dark net, too.
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都会开始使用暗网。
13:16
So the Internet is about to get more interesting,
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所以网络正在变得更加有趣,
13:19
more exciting, more innovative,
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更激动人心,更创新,
13:22
more terrible,
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更可怕,
13:24
more destructive.
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更有毁灭力量。
13:27
That's good news if you care about liberty.
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如果你在乎自由,
13:29
It's good news if you care about freedom.
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这是好消息。
13:31
It's good news if you care about democracy.
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如果你在乎民主,这是好消息。
13:33
It's also good news
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如果你想看非法成人影像,
13:34
if you want to browse for illegal pornography
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这也是个好消息。
13:37
and if you want to buy and sell drugs
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若你想买卖毒品
13:39
with impunity.
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并且逃脱制裁。
13:41
Neither entirely dark, nor entirely light.
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并不是全黑暗,也并不光彩。
13:45
It's not one side or the other that's going to win out, but both.
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黑暗和光明将会并存于这里。
13:50
Thank you very much, indeed.
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谢谢。真的。
13:52
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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