Burt Rutan: Entrepreneurs are the future of space flight

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翻译人员: Eva Sun 校对人员: Chunlei Chang
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I want to start off by saying, Houston, we have a problem.
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我想从这里开始,休斯顿,我们有个问题。
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We're entering a second generation of no progress
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我们已经有二十年没有进展了
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in terms of human flight in space. In fact, we've regressed.
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在人类太空飞行方面。事实上,我们退步了。
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We stand a very big chance of losing our ability to inspire our youth
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我们非常有可能失去鼓励年轻人的能力,
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to go out and continue this very important thing
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让他们走出去,继续做这非常重要的事情
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that we as a species have always done.
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做我们人类已经做了的事情。
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And that is, instinctively we've gone out
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那就是,我们已经本能地走出去
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and climbed over difficult places, went to more hostile places,
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翻过困难之地,去往更加困难的地方,
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and found out later, maybe to our surprise, that that's the reason we survived.
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之后发现,也许会令我们吃惊,这些就是我们生存下来的理由。
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And I feel very strongly
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我强烈的感觉到
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that it's not good enough for us to have generations of kids
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这不太好,如果我们世代的后辈
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that think that it's OK to look forward to a better version
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只想着要一个更好
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of a cell phone with a video in it.
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带录像的手机。
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They need to look forward to exploration; they need to look forward to colonization;
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他们要渴望探索,他们要渴望征服,
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they need to look forward to breakthroughs.
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他们要渴望突破。他们需要这些。
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We need to inspire them, because they need to lead us
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我们要鼓励他们,因为他们将来要领导我们
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and help us survive in the future.
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帮助我们生存。
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I'm particularly troubled that what NASA's doing right now with this new Bush doctrine
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我特别担心,美国国家宇航局现在根据新的布什政府的原则所做的
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to -- for this next decade and a half -- oh shoot, I screwed up.
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--因为在未来十五年--哦 天呢,我错了。
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We have real specific instructions here not to talk about politics.
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在这里我们有非常明确的规定,不可以谈政治。
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
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What we're looking forward to is --
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我们所期待的是--
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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what we're looking forward to
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我们所期待的
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is not only the inspiration of our children,
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是不止鼓励我们的孩子
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but the current plan right now is not really even allowing
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但我们现行的政策甚至不允许
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the most creative people in this country -- the Boeing's and Lockheed's
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这个国家最有创造力的--波音航空公司和洛克希德导弹与航天公司的
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space engineers -- to go out and take risks and try new stuff.
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航天工程师走出去,承担风险,尝试新装置。
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We're going to go back to the moon ... 50 years later?
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我们将要回到月球--50年以后--
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And we're going to do it very specifically planned to not learn anything new.
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我们正准备仔细地计划这件事情,学习任何新知识。
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I'm really troubled by that. But anyway that's --
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我因此非常担心。但无论如何,那是--
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the basis of the thing that I want to share with you today, though,
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我今天想和你们分享的事情的基础,尽管如此
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is that right back to where we inspire people
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就回到了我们要鼓励人们
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who will be our great leaders later.
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鼓励日后会成为我们伟大领导的人们。
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That's the theme of my next 15 minutes here.
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那是我在这里接下来15分钟的主题。
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And I think that the inspiration begins when you're very young:
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我认为在你们小的时候就开始被鼓励:
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three-year-olds, up to 12-, 14-year-olds.
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从三岁的婴儿直到12,14岁的小孩。
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What they look at is the most important thing.
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我们--最重要的事情是他们看到了什么。
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Let's take a snapshot at aviation.
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让我们迅速回览一下航空工业。
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And there was a wonderful little short four-year time period
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曾有四年短暂的美好时期
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when marvelous things happened.
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那时发生了许多奇迹。
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It started in 1908, when the Wright brothers flew in Paris, and everybody said,
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那段时期开始于1908年,当怀特兄弟在巴黎飞行,每个人都说,
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"Ooh, hey, I can do that." There's only a few people that have flown
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“哦,嘿!我能做这个。”只有极少的人曾飞过
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in early 1908. In four years, 39 countries had hundreds of airplanes,
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在1908年初。四年里,39个国家有了上百架飞机,
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thousand of pilots. Airplanes were invented by natural selection.
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上千名飞行员。飞机通过自然选择被发明了出来。
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Now you can say that intelligent design designs our airplanes of today,
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现在你可以说聪明的设计设计了我们今天的飞机,
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but there was no intelligent design really designing those early airplanes.
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但没有聪明的设计真正设计了那些早期的飞机。
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There were probably at least 30,000 different things tried,
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可能至少有3000种不同的尝试,
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and when they crash and kill the pilot, don't try that again.
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如果飞行器坠毁,飞行员身亡,就不再尝试此种飞行器。
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The ones that flew and landed OK
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能够飞行和着陆的就是好的,
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because there were no trained pilots
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因为没有训练有素的飞行员
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who had good flying qualities by definition.
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没有真正有好的飞行素质之人。
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So we, by making a whole bunch of attempts, thousands of attempts,
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所以我们,通过做一大堆尝试,几千次的尝试,
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in that four-year time period, we invented the concepts
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在那四年里,我们发明了
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of the airplanes that we fly today. And that's why they're so safe,
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我们今天飞行所用的飞机。这就是为什么我们这么安全,
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as we gave it a lot of chance to find what's good.
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因为我们给了自己很多机会去发现什么是好的。
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That has not happened at all in space flying.
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在宇宙飞行领域,我们没有给自己一点儿机会。
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There's only been two concepts tried -- two by the U.S. and one by the Russians.
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只尝试了两个想法 -- 美国尝试了两个,俄罗斯尝试了一个。
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Well, who was inspired during that time period?
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那么,在这段时期,谁被鼓舞了?
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Aviation Week asked me to make a list of who I thought
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《航空周刊》让我列一个表,列出我认为
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were the movers and shakers of the first 100 years of aviation.
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这一百年的航空事业的推动者。
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And I wrote them down and I found out later that every one of them
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我把他们写了出来,之后发现他们每一个人
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was a little kid in that wonderful renaissance of aviation.
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在航天事业的奇妙复兴之时都是小孩子。
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Well, what happened when I was a little kid was -- some pretty heavy stuff too.
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那么,当我小的时候发生了什么-- 也是非常重大的事件。
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The jet age started: the missile age started. Von Braun was on there
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喷气式飞机时代开始了,导弹时代开始了。冯 布劳恩在那里
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showing how to go to Mars -- and this was before Sputnik.
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展示如何登上火星 -- 这些事早于人造地球卫星的制造。
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And this was at a time when Mars was a hell of a lot more interesting
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那时火星是一个非常令人感兴趣的地方
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than it is now. We thought there'd be animals there;
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比现在有趣得多。我们曾以为那里有动物存在,
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we knew there were plants there; the colors change, right?
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我们知道那里有植物,有色彩变幻,不是吗?
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But, you know, NASA screwed that up because they've sent these robots
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但是,你知道,美国国家宇航局搞砸了这事情,因为他们派遣了这些机器人
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and they've landed it only in the deserts.
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而他们只着陆在了沙漠里。
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(Laughter)
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(笑)
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If you look at what happened -- this little black line is as fast as man ever flew,
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如果你看一看发生了什么 -- 这条小黑线和人们曾经飞行的速度一样快,
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and the red line is top-of-the-line military fighters
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这条红线代表军队里速度最快的飞行员
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and the blue line is commercial air transport.
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蓝色代表商业飞机运输。
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You notice here's a big jump when I was a little kid --
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你注意这里有一个大的跳跃。当我还是一个小孩时--
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and I think that had something to do with giving me the courage
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我认为曾有些事给予我勇气
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to go out and try something that other people weren't having the courage to try.
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走出去,尝试其他人没勇气去做的事。
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Well, what did I do when I was a kid?
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那么,我小时候做了什么?
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I didn't do the hotrods and the girls and the dancing
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我那时没有玩车,交女朋友,没有跳舞。
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and, well, we didn't have drugs in those days. But I did competition model airplanes.
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并且,那时我也没有吸毒。我做了些比赛用的飞机模型。
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I spent about seven years during the Vietnam War
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越战时,我花了七年时间
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flight-testing airplanes for the Air Force.
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为空军做飞机飞行测试。
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And then I went in and I had a lot of fun building airplanes
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后来,我涉猎飞机制造,并从中的到甚多乐趣
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that people could build in their garages.
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那些飞机是人们可以在自家车库里制造的。
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And some 3,000 of those are flying. Of course, one of them
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这些里面有约有3000架正在飞行。当然,它们中的一架
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is around the world Voyager. I founded another company in '82,
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是可以环游世界的航行者号(Voyager)。我在1982年建立了另一家公司,
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which is my company now.
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就是我现在的公司。
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And we have developed more than one new type of airplane every year since 1982.
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从1982年起,我们公司每年研发不只一种飞机,
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And there's a lot of them that I actually can't show you on this chart.
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有许多飞机我无法在这张图上介绍给大家。
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The most impressive airplane ever, I believe, was designed
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最令人印象深刻的飞机,我相信,是那架
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only a dozen years after the first operational jet.
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在第一架喷气式飞机制造出后,仅过了十二年就设计出的飞机。
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Stayed in service till it was too rusty to fly, taken out of service.
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它一直在飞行,直到锈迹斑斑才不再服役。
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We retreated in '98 back to something that was developed in '56. What?
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我们1998年的研发水平倒退至1956年。什么?
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The most impressive spaceship ever, I believe,
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史上最震撼人心的宇宙飞船,我相信,
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was a Grumman Lunar Lander. It was a -- you know, it landed on the moon,
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是格鲁曼公司(Grumman)所做的登月艇。它是一艘--你知道,它在月球着陆,
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take off of the moon, didn't need any maintenance guys --
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从月球起飞,无需人员维护--
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that's kind of cool.
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那有点儿酷。
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We've lost that capability. We abandoned it in '72.
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我们已经丧失了能力。我们在1972年放弃了它。
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This thing was designed three years after Gagarin first flew in space in 1961.
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这架飞船在前苏联宇航员加加林(Gagarin)1961年首次宇宙飞行的三年后被设计出来。
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Three years, and we can't do that now. Crazy.
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三年,而我们现在做不到了。
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Talk very briefly about innovation cycles, things that grow,
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疯狂。简短地谈一下发明创造的周期,周期发展时
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have a lot of activity; they die out when they're replaced by something else.
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会衍生许多活动,当这些活动被其他活动取代,此周期就灭亡了。
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These things tend to happen every 25 years.
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这样的周期每25年出现一次。
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40 years long, with an overlap. You can put that statement
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持续40年的时间,有些周期相互交叠。你可以将此观点
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on all kinds of different technologies. The interesting thing --
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放至不同的科技。这有趣的事情--
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by the way, the speed here, excuse me, higher-speed travel
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顺便一提,这里的速度,不好意思,高速旅行
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is the title of these innovation cycles. There is none here.
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是这些发明创造周期的标题。这里没有一个。
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These two new airplanes are the same speed as the DC8 that was done in 1958.
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这两架飞机与1958年制造的DC8速度相同。
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Here's the biggie, and that is, you don't have innovation cycles
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这是件大事,那就是,你没有发明创造周期
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if the government develops and the government uses it.
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如果政府研发并应用其研发成果。
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You know, a good example, of course, is the DARPA net.
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你知道,一个好的例子,当然就是DARPA网。
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Computers were used for artillery first, then IRS.
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电脑首先应用于炮兵部队,然后是美国国税局(IRS)。
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But when we got it, now you have all the level of activity,
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但当我们得到它时,现在你拥有所有活动的级别,
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all the benefit from it. Private sector has to do it.
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所有由它而来的利益。私营部门不得不这么做。
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Keep that in mind. I put down innovation --
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记住它。我提出发明创新--
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I've looked for innovation cycles in space; I found none.
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我期待看到宇宙空间的发明创新周期,但我什么也没发现。
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The very first year, starting when Gagarin went in space,
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在最初的那一年,从加加林和
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and a few weeks later Alan Shepherd, there were five manned
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和几周后阿兰 谢巴德进入太空开始,世界上有五次人造
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space flights in the world -- the very first year.
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飞船航行;在最初的那一年。
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In 2003, everyone that the United States sent to space was killed.
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2003年,美国的送入太空的每个人都牺牲了。
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There were only three or four flights in 2003.
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2003年只有三或四次飞行。
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In 2004, there were only two flights: two Russian Soyuz flights
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2004年,只有两次飞行:两次俄罗斯联盟号飞船飞行
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to the international manned station. And I had to fly three in Mojave
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至国际空间站。而我不得不在莫哈维沙漠起飞三次
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with my little group of a couple dozen people
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和我的两队人马一起
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in order to get to a total of five,
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为了达到5次飞行的总数,
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which was the number the same year back in 1961.
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这是1961年的数字。
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There is no growth. There's no activity. There's no nothing.
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没有进步。没有活动。什么也没有。
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This is a picture here taken from SpaceShipOne.
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这张照片取自一号太空飞船。
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This is a picture here taken from orbit.
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这张照片取自轨道。
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Our goal is to make it so that you can see this picture and really enjoy that.
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我们的目标是拍下这些照片,这样大家就能看到它,真正地喜欢它。
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We know how to do it for sub-orbital flying now, do it safe enough --
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我们知道如何为亚轨道飞行拍照片,非常安全地做这件事--
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at least as safe as the early airlines -- so that can be done.
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至少像早期的航线一样安全--所以可以做。
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And I think I want to talk a little bit about why we had the courage
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我认为我想了点儿为什么我们有勇气
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to go out and try that as a small company.
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尝试飞到太空,我们是个小公司。
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Well, first of all, what's going to happen next?
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那么,首先,接下来会发生什么?
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The first industry will be a high volume, a lot of players.
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第一产业将会数量巨大,参与者众多。
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There's another one announced just last week.
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上周有另一个公司宣布它们可以。
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And it will be sub-orbital. And the reason it has to be sub-orbital
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这次飞行将会是亚轨道。亚轨道的原因
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is, there is not solutions for adequate safety
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是,没有保证充分安全的方法
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to fly the public to orbit. The governments have been doing this --
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可以带领大众飞至轨道。一些国家的政府正在这样做--
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three governments have been doing this for 45 years,
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有三个政府已经这么做了45年,
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and still four percent of the people that have left the atmosphere have died.
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仍然有百分之四十的人命丧太空。
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That's -- You don't want to run a business with that kind of a safety record.
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那是--你不想经营一项有这种安全记录的事业。
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It'll be very high volume; we think 100,000 people will fly by 2020.
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它的量会变得很大;我们认为到2020年将会有100000人进行太空飞行。
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I can't tell you when this will start,
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我不能告诉你太空旅行何时开始,
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because I don't want my competition to know my schedule.
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因为我不想我的竞争者知道我的计划。
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But I think once it does, we will find solutions,
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但我认为一旦开始,我们将会找到解决方案。
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and very quickly, you'll see those resort hotels in orbit.
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并且很快,你将在轨道上看到旅游旅店。
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And that real easy thing to do, which is a swing around the moon
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去月球上绕一圈是非常容易做到的事情,
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so you have this cool view. And that will be really cool.
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因为你能看到非常酷的景象。那确实会很酷。
10:08
Because the moon doesn't have an atmosphere --
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因为月球没有大气层环绕--
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you can do an elliptical orbit and miss it by 10 feet if you want.
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如果你愿意,你可以绕误差在10英尺的椭圆形轨道飞行。
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Oh, it's going to be so much fun.
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噢,那会非常有趣。
10:15
(Laughter)
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(笑)
10:17
OK. My critics say, "Hey, Rutan's just spending
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好。批评我的人说,“嘿,鲁坦,只是花着”
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a lot of these billionaires' money for joyrides for billionaires.
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这些亿万富翁的钱,为其创造游览飞行。
10:26
What's this? This is not a transportation system; it's just for fun."
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这是什么?这不是运输系统,它只是用于消遣。“
10:31
And I used to be bothered by that, and then I got to thinking,
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我过去常常因此而困扰,后来我开始思考。
10:34
well, wait a minute. I bought my first Apple computer in 1978
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那么,等一下。我带来了我的第一台1978年的苹果电脑
10:39
and I bought it because I could say, "I got a computer at my house and you don't.
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我把它带来因为我可以说,“我在家里有一台电脑,而你没有。
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'What do you use it for?' Come over. It does Frogger." OK.
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‘用它做什么?’过来。它能玩青蛙过街。”好吧。
10:50
(Laughter)
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(笑)
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Not the bank's computer or Lockheed's computer,
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不是银行的电脑或洛克希德导弹与航天公司的电脑,
10:54
but the home computer was for games.
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家用电脑是用于游戏的。
10:57
For a whole decade it was for fun -- we didn't even know what it was for.
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对于整整一代来说,它是用于消遣--我们甚至不知道它是用于做什么的。
11:01
But what happened, the fact that we had this big industry,
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但是发生了什么,我们有了这个巨大的产业,
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big development, big improvement and capability and so on,
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巨大的发展,巨大的进步和能力等等,
11:09
and they get out there in enough homes -- we were ripe for a new invention.
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他们被许多的家庭所知,我们的新发明变得成熟。
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And the inventor is in this audience.
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而发明者就坐在观众席里。
11:16
Al Gore invented the Internet and because of that,
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阿尔 戈尔发明了互联网,因此,
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something that we used for a whole year -- excuse me --
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互联网--我们用了一整年--不好意思,
11:23
a whole decade for fun, became everything -- our commerce, our research,
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整整一代用其消遣,变成了每一件事情--我们的商业,我们的研究,
11:29
our communication and, if we let the Google guys
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我们的交流而且,如果我们让谷歌的人
11:33
think for another couple weekends, we can add a dozen more things to the list. (Laughter)
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再想连个周末,我们能在此表上再加上许多条。
11:37
And it won't be very long before you won't be able to convince kids
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要不了多久,孩子们就不会相信
11:40
that we didn't always have computers in our homes.
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我们的家里电脑曾经并不普及。
11:45
So fun is defendable.
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所以乐趣是应该被保护的。
11:48
OK, I want to show you kind of a busy chart,
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好,我想展示给大家一张复杂的表,
11:53
but in it is my prediction with what's going to happen.
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里面是我对未来会发生什么的预言。
11:56
And in it also brings up another point, right here.
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里面也提出了另一个观点,就在这。
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There's a group of people that have come forward --
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有一群人已经前进--
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and you don't know all of them -- but the ones that have come forward
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你不认识他们所有人--但那些已经前进的人
12:07
were inspired as young children, this little three- to 15-year-old age,
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像3至15岁的年轻孩子一样被我们鼓励
12:14
by us going to orbit and going to the moon here,
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他们将飞向轨道,飞向月亮,
12:17
right in this time period.
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就在这个时期。
12:19
Paul Allen, Elan Musk, Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos, the Ansari family,
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保罗 艾伦,艾伦 莫斯克,理查德 布兰森,杰夫 贝佐斯,安萨里家族,
12:29
which is now funding the Russians' sub-orbital thing,
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他们现在资助俄罗斯的亚轨道航行,
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Bob Bigelow, a private space station, and Carmack.
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鲍勃 比洛奇,一个私人空间站,和卡马克。
12:38
These people are taking money and putting it in an interesting area,
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这些人把钱投入一个有趣的领域,
12:44
and I think it's a lot better than they put it in an area
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而我认为这笔把钱
12:47
of a better cell phone or something -- but they're putting it in very --
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花在买一个更好的手机或其他事情上要好得多--但他们把钱投入到非常[模糊的]
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areas and this will lead us into this kind of capability,
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区域,而这将会引导我们获得这种能力,
12:55
and it will lead us into the next really big thing
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这将会引导我们进入下一个真正大的事件
12:57
and it will allow us to explore. And I think eventually
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这会让我们探索。而我认为最终
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it will allow us to colonize and to keep us from going extinct.
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这会让我们能够得到地盘,使我们远离灭亡。
13:05
They were inspired by big progress. But look at the progress that's going on after that.
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他们被巨大的进程所鼓舞。但看看那之后的进程。
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There were a couple of examples here.
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这里有两个例子。
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The military fighters had a -- highest-performance military airplane
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军事战斗机有一架最高性能的空军飞机
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was the SR71. It went a whole life cycle, got too rusty to fly,
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是SR71.它走过了整个生命周期,直到锈迹斑斑才停滞飞行,
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and was taken out of service. The Concorde doubled the speed for airline travel.
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退出服役。协和式飞机使空军旅行速度翻倍。
13:27
It went a whole life cycle without competition,
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它飞过了整个生命周期,没有遇到任何竞争;
13:30
took out of service. And we're stuck back here
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然后停飞。而我们就此卡住
13:33
with the same kind of capability for military fighters
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拥有这样的军事战斗机
13:36
and commercial airline travel that we had back in the late '50s.
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和商业航空旅行,我们回到了50年代末期。
13:40
But something is out there to inspire our kids now.
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但现在出现了一些事情去鼓舞我们的孩子。
13:44
And I'm talking about if you've got a baby now,
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我是说如果你现在有一个婴儿,
13:46
or if you've got a 10-year-old now.
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或你有一个10岁的孩子。
13:47
What's out there is there's something really interesting going to happen here.
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外面正在发生一些非常有趣的事情。
13:53
Relatively soon, you'll be able to buy a ticket
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不就,你就能买张票
13:55
and fly higher and faster than the highest-performance
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然后飞地比最高性能的军事作战飞机更高、更快。
14:00
military operational airplane. It's never happened before.
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这在之前从未发生过。
14:04
The fact that they have stuck here with this kind of performance
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事实是它们拥有着这种性能的飞行器却止步不前,
14:09
has been, well, you know, you win the war in 12 minutes;
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那么,你知道,你在12分钟之内赢得了这场战争,
14:12
why do you need something better?
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为什么你需要更好的东西?
14:13
But I think when you guys start buying tickets and flying
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但我认为当你们开始卖票,开始
14:16
sub-orbital flights to space, very soon -- wait a minute,
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亚轨道飞行,通往太空,很快--稍等,
14:21
what's happening here, we'll have military fighters
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这里发生了什么,我们将拥有军事战斗机
14:24
with sub-orbital capability, and I think very soon this.
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这些战斗机拥有沿亚轨道飞行的能力,我认为这很快就会发生。
14:27
But the interesting thing about it is the commercial guys are going to go first.
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但有趣的是,商业飞行器现具有这种能力。
14:31
OK, I look forward to a new "capitalist's space race," let's call it.
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好,我期待一场新的资本主义太空竞赛,让我们呼唤它。
14:37
You remember the space race in the '60s was for national prestige,
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你们还记得60年代的太空竞赛是为了国家的声誉,
14:41
because we lost the first two milestones.
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因为我们丢失了最初的两个里程碑。
14:44
We didn't lose them technically. The fact that we had the hardware
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我们不是因为技术而丢失了它们。事实是我们有硬件
14:48
to put something in orbit when we let Von Braun fly it --
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当我们让冯 布劳恩飞行时,我们能够把一些东西送上轨道,
14:53
you can argue that's not a technical loss.
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你可以认为那不是科技的失败。
14:55
Sputnik wasn't a technical loss, but it was a prestige loss.
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史波尼克人造卫星不是科技上的失败,但它有损声誉。
14:59
America -- the world saw America as not being the leader in technology,
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美国--世界看到美国不是科技的主宰,
15:06
and that was a very strong thing.
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那时非常重要的事情。
15:08
And then we flew Alan Shepherd weeks after Gagarin,
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然后我们在加加林之后几周让艾伦 谢巴德太空飞行,
15:13
not months or decades, or whatever. So we had the capability.
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不是在几个月或几十年之后,或不管多长时间。所以,我们有能力。
15:18
But America lost. We lost. And because of that, we made a big jump to recover it.
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但美国失败了,我们失败了。因为那,我们向前跳跃一大步以弥补它。
15:27
Well, again, what's interesting here is we've lost
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那么,再次,有趣的是我们已经输给了
15:30
to the Russians on the first couple of milestones already.
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俄国在前两次里程碑前。
15:33
You cannot buy a ticket commercially to fly into space in America --
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在美国,你不能买一张票飞去太空--
15:38
can't do it. You can buy it in Russia.
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不能这么做。你可以在俄国买到票。
15:43
You can fly with Russian hardware. This is available
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你乘坐俄国的飞行器飞行。这是可以的
15:46
because a Russian space program is starving,
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因为苏联的太空计划缺乏资金。
15:49
and it's nice for them to get 20 million here and there to take one of the seats.
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一个座位可以得到两千万美金,对他们来说很不错。
15:54
It's commercial. It can be defined as space tourism. They are also offering a trip
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它是商业的。它可被定义为空间旅行。他们也能提供
16:01
to go on this whip around the moon, like Apollo 8 was done.
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绕月旅行,像阿波罗八号飞船所做的。
16:05
100 million bucks -- hey, I can go to the moon.
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一亿美金--嘿,我能去月球。
16:08
But, you know, would you have thought back in the '60s,
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但是,你知道,退回到60年代,你会想到这个吗,
16:11
when the space race was going on,
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那时太空竞赛正在继续,
16:13
that the first commercial capitalist-like thing to do
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第一个商业资本家似的事情,像是
16:19
to buy a ticket to go to the moon would be in Russian hardware?
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买张票就可以去月球,这会是苏联的硬件设施吗?
16:23
And would you have thought, would the Russians have thought,
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那时你会想到吗,苏联人会想到吗,
16:26
that when they first go to the moon in their developed hardware,
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当他们第一次乘坐他们开发的飞船去月球时,
16:30
the guys inside won't be Russians? Maybe it'll probably be a Japanese
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里面的乘客不是俄国人?也许,会是日本的
16:34
or an American billionaire? Well, that's weird: you know, it really is.
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或是美国的亿万富翁?好,有点儿奇怪,你知道,但确实如此。
16:38
But anyway, I think we need to beat them again.
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但无论如何,我想我们需要再次打击他们。
16:42
I think what we'll do is we'll see a successful, very successful,
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我认为我们要做的会让我们看到成功的,非常成功的
16:49
private space flight industry. Whether we're first or not really doesn't matter.
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私人太空飞船行业。无论我们是否是第一个真的并不重要。
16:54
The Russians actually flew a supersonic transport before the Concorde.
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苏联人实际上在飞协和式飞机前就飞过超音速飞机。
17:00
And then they flew a few cargo flights, and took it out of service.
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他们飞过一些货物航班,然后退役。
17:04
I think you kind of see the same kind of parallel
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我想你们见到过相同的平行
17:07
when the commercial stuff is offered.
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当提供商业活动时。
17:11
OK, we'll talk just a little bit about commercial development for human space flight.
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好,我们就谈论一点儿人类太空飞行的商业发展。
17:15
This little thing says here: five times
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这张小投影片说飞了五次
17:17
what NASA's doing by 2020. I want to tell you, already
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这是美国国家宇航局到2020年做的。我想要告诉你,已经
17:25
there's about 1.5 billion to 1.7 billion
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有大约十点五亿至十点七亿
17:29
investment in private space flight that is not government at all --
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投资用于私人太空飞行,这些投资完全不是来自政府;
17:35
already, worldwide. If you read -- if you Google it,
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而是来自全世界。如果你读到它--如果你搜索一下它,
17:40
you'll find about half of that money, but there's twice of that
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你会发现一半的资金,但有两倍
17:43
being committed out there -- not spent yet, but being committed
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正准备投入那里的资金--还没有花,但正准备投入
17:47
and planned for the next few years. Hey, that's pretty big.
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计划到未来几年。嘿,那数目非常大。
17:50
I'm predicting, though, as profitable as this industry is going to be --
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我正在预测,尽管,这个工业的收益会很客观
17:55
and it certainly is profitable when you fly people at 200,000 dollars
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并且它确实是收益的,当你花200000美元让你的朋友乘飞船旅行时
17:59
on something that you can actually operate at a tenth of that cost,
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事实上你可以只花费十分之一,
18:03
or less -- this is going to be very profitable.
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或更少--这收入会非常客观。
18:07
I predict, also, that the investment that will flow into this
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我还预测,会注入此项事业的投资
18:10
will be somewhere around half of what the U.S. taxpayer
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将会有相当于美国税收的一半之多
18:14
spends for NASA's manned spacecraft work.
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这些投资会用于美国国家宇航局的人造宇宙飞船工作。
18:18
And every dollar that flows into that will be spent more efficiently
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注入此项事业的每一美元都会被更有效地利用
18:23
by a factor of 10 to 15. And what that means is before we know it,
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大约相差10到15。这意味着在我们之前就知道,
18:31
the progress in human space flight, with no taxpayer dollars,
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人类太空飞行的进程,没有用纳税人的钱,
18:38
will be at a level of about five times as much
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将会比现在美国国家宇航局的预算多五倍
18:44
as the current NASA budgets for human space flight.
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该预算用于人类太空飞行。
18:49
And that is because it's us. It's private industry.
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那是因为是我们。它是私人的行业。
18:57
You should never depend on the government to do this sort of stuff --
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你从不应该依赖政府去做这种事业--
19:03
and we've done it for a long time. The NACA, before NASA,
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而且我们已经从事了很长时间。美国航空资讯委员会,在美国国家宇航局之前,
19:06
never developed an airliner and never ran an airline.
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从未开发过客机,而且从未运营过航空线。
19:10
But NASA is developing the space liner, always has,
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但美国国家宇航局正在开发太空货机,总是拥有
19:14
and runs the only space line, OK. And we've shied away from it
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并且运营这唯一的太空航线,好吧。我们避开它
19:21
because we're afraid of it. But starting back in June of 2004,
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因为我们害怕它。但是从2004年六月开始,
19:27
when I showed that a little group out there actually can do it,
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当我展示在外太空的一个小组实际上能做到时,
19:32
can get a start with it, everything changed after that time.
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我们能够从它开始,从现在起改变每一件事情。
19:35
OK, thank you very much.
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好吧,非常感谢大家。
19:37
(Applause)
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