Burt Rutan: Entrepreneurs are the future of space flight

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I want to start off by saying, Houston, we have a problem.
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We're entering a second generation of no progress
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in terms of human flight in space. In fact, we've regressed.
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We stand a very big chance of losing our ability to inspire our youth
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to go out and continue this very important thing
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that we as a species have always done.
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And that is, instinctively we've gone out
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and climbed over difficult places, went to more hostile places,
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and found out later, maybe to our surprise, that that's the reason we survived.
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And I feel very strongly
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that it's not good enough for us to have generations of kids
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that think that it's OK to look forward to a better version
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of a cell phone with a video in it.
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They need to look forward to exploration; they need to look forward to colonization;
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they need to look forward to breakthroughs.
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We need to inspire them, because they need to lead us
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and help us survive in the future.
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I'm particularly troubled that what NASA's doing right now with this new Bush doctrine
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to -- for this next decade and a half -- oh shoot, I screwed up.
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We have real specific instructions here not to talk about politics.
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(Laughter)
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What we're looking forward to is --
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(Applause)
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what we're looking forward to
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is not only the inspiration of our children,
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but the current plan right now is not really even allowing
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the most creative people in this country -- the Boeing's and Lockheed's
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space engineers -- to go out and take risks and try new stuff.
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We're going to go back to the moon ... 50 years later?
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And we're going to do it very specifically planned to not learn anything new.
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I'm really troubled by that. But anyway that's --
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the basis of the thing that I want to share with you today, though,
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is that right back to where we inspire people
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who will be our great leaders later.
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That's the theme of my next 15 minutes here.
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And I think that the inspiration begins when you're very young:
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three-year-olds, up to 12-, 14-year-olds.
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What they look at is the most important thing.
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Let's take a snapshot at aviation.
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And there was a wonderful little short four-year time period
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when marvelous things happened.
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It started in 1908, when the Wright brothers flew in Paris, and everybody said,
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"Ooh, hey, I can do that." There's only a few people that have flown
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in early 1908. In four years, 39 countries had hundreds of airplanes,
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thousand of pilots. Airplanes were invented by natural selection.
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Now you can say that intelligent design designs our airplanes of today,
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but there was no intelligent design really designing those early airplanes.
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There were probably at least 30,000 different things tried,
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and when they crash and kill the pilot, don't try that again.
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The ones that flew and landed OK
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because there were no trained pilots
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who had good flying qualities by definition.
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So we, by making a whole bunch of attempts, thousands of attempts,
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in that four-year time period, we invented the concepts
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of the airplanes that we fly today. And that's why they're so safe,
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as we gave it a lot of chance to find what's good.
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That has not happened at all in space flying.
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There's only been two concepts tried -- two by the U.S. and one by the Russians.
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Well, who was inspired during that time period?
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Aviation Week asked me to make a list of who I thought
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were the movers and shakers of the first 100 years of aviation.
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And I wrote them down and I found out later that every one of them
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was a little kid in that wonderful renaissance of aviation.
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Well, what happened when I was a little kid was -- some pretty heavy stuff too.
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The jet age started: the missile age started. Von Braun was on there
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showing how to go to Mars -- and this was before Sputnik.
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And this was at a time when Mars was a hell of a lot more interesting
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than it is now. We thought there'd be animals there;
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we knew there were plants there; the colors change, right?
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But, you know, NASA screwed that up because they've sent these robots
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and they've landed it only in the deserts.
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(Laughter)
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If you look at what happened -- this little black line is as fast as man ever flew,
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and the red line is top-of-the-line military fighters
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and the blue line is commercial air transport.
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You notice here's a big jump when I was a little kid --
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and I think that had something to do with giving me the courage
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to go out and try something that other people weren't having the courage to try.
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Well, what did I do when I was a kid?
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I didn't do the hotrods and the girls and the dancing
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and, well, we didn't have drugs in those days. But I did competition model airplanes.
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I spent about seven years during the Vietnam War
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flight-testing airplanes for the Air Force.
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And then I went in and I had a lot of fun building airplanes
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that people could build in their garages.
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And some 3,000 of those are flying. Of course, one of them
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is around the world Voyager. I founded another company in '82,
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which is my company now.
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And we have developed more than one new type of airplane every year since 1982.
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And there's a lot of them that I actually can't show you on this chart.
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The most impressive airplane ever, I believe, was designed
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only a dozen years after the first operational jet.
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Stayed in service till it was too rusty to fly, taken out of service.
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We retreated in '98 back to something that was developed in '56. What?
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The most impressive spaceship ever, I believe,
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was a Grumman Lunar Lander. It was a -- you know, it landed on the moon,
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take off of the moon, didn't need any maintenance guys --
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that's kind of cool.
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We've lost that capability. We abandoned it in '72.
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This thing was designed three years after Gagarin first flew in space in 1961.
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Three years, and we can't do that now. Crazy.
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Talk very briefly about innovation cycles, things that grow,
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have a lot of activity; they die out when they're replaced by something else.
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These things tend to happen every 25 years.
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40 years long, with an overlap. You can put that statement
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on all kinds of different technologies. The interesting thing --
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by the way, the speed here, excuse me, higher-speed travel
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is the title of these innovation cycles. There is none here.
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These two new airplanes are the same speed as the DC8 that was done in 1958.
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Here's the biggie, and that is, you don't have innovation cycles
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if the government develops and the government uses it.
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You know, a good example, of course, is the DARPA net.
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Computers were used for artillery first, then IRS.
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But when we got it, now you have all the level of activity,
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all the benefit from it. Private sector has to do it.
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Keep that in mind. I put down innovation --
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I've looked for innovation cycles in space; I found none.
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The very first year, starting when Gagarin went in space,
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and a few weeks later Alan Shepherd, there were five manned
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space flights in the world -- the very first year.
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In 2003, everyone that the United States sent to space was killed.
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There were only three or four flights in 2003.
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In 2004, there were only two flights: two Russian Soyuz flights
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to the international manned station. And I had to fly three in Mojave
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with my little group of a couple dozen people
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in order to get to a total of five,
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which was the number the same year back in 1961.
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There is no growth. There's no activity. There's no nothing.
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This is a picture here taken from SpaceShipOne.
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This is a picture here taken from orbit.
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Our goal is to make it so that you can see this picture and really enjoy that.
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We know how to do it for sub-orbital flying now, do it safe enough --
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at least as safe as the early airlines -- so that can be done.
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And I think I want to talk a little bit about why we had the courage
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to go out and try that as a small company.
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Well, first of all, what's going to happen next?
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The first industry will be a high volume, a lot of players.
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There's another one announced just last week.
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And it will be sub-orbital. And the reason it has to be sub-orbital
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is, there is not solutions for adequate safety
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to fly the public to orbit. The governments have been doing this --
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three governments have been doing this for 45 years,
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and still four percent of the people that have left the atmosphere have died.
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That's -- You don't want to run a business with that kind of a safety record.
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It'll be very high volume; we think 100,000 people will fly by 2020.
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I can't tell you when this will start,
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because I don't want my competition to know my schedule.
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But I think once it does, we will find solutions,
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and very quickly, you'll see those resort hotels in orbit.
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And that real easy thing to do, which is a swing around the moon
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so you have this cool view. And that will be really cool.
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Because the moon doesn't have an atmosphere --
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you can do an elliptical orbit and miss it by 10 feet if you want.
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Oh, it's going to be so much fun.
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(Laughter)
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OK. My critics say, "Hey, Rutan's just spending
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a lot of these billionaires' money for joyrides for billionaires.
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What's this? This is not a transportation system; it's just for fun."
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And I used to be bothered by that, and then I got to thinking,
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well, wait a minute. I bought my first Apple computer in 1978
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and I bought it because I could say, "I got a computer at my house and you don't.
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'What do you use it for?' Come over. It does Frogger." OK.
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(Laughter)
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Not the bank's computer or Lockheed's computer,
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but the home computer was for games.
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For a whole decade it was for fun -- we didn't even know what it was for.
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But what happened, the fact that we had this big industry,
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big development, big improvement and capability and so on,
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and they get out there in enough homes -- we were ripe for a new invention.
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And the inventor is in this audience.
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Al Gore invented the Internet and because of that,
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something that we used for a whole year -- excuse me --
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a whole decade for fun, became everything -- our commerce, our research,
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our communication and, if we let the Google guys
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think for another couple weekends, we can add a dozen more things to the list. (Laughter)
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And it won't be very long before you won't be able to convince kids
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that we didn't always have computers in our homes.
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So fun is defendable.
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OK, I want to show you kind of a busy chart,
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but in it is my prediction with what's going to happen.
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And in it also brings up another point, right here.
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There's a group of people that have come forward --
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and you don't know all of them -- but the ones that have come forward
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were inspired as young children, this little three- to 15-year-old age,
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by us going to orbit and going to the moon here,
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right in this time period.
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Paul Allen, Elan Musk, Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos, the Ansari family,
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which is now funding the Russians' sub-orbital thing,
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Bob Bigelow, a private space station, and Carmack.
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These people are taking money and putting it in an interesting area,
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and I think it's a lot better than they put it in an area
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of a better cell phone or something -- but they're putting it in very --
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areas and this will lead us into this kind of capability,
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and it will lead us into the next really big thing
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and it will allow us to explore. And I think eventually
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it will allow us to colonize and to keep us from going extinct.
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They were inspired by big progress. But look at the progress that's going on after that.
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There were a couple of examples here.
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The military fighters had a -- highest-performance military airplane
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was the SR71. It went a whole life cycle, got too rusty to fly,
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and was taken out of service. The Concorde doubled the speed for airline travel.
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It went a whole life cycle without competition,
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took out of service. And we're stuck back here
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with the same kind of capability for military fighters
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and commercial airline travel that we had back in the late '50s.
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But something is out there to inspire our kids now.
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And I'm talking about if you've got a baby now,
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or if you've got a 10-year-old now.
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What's out there is there's something really interesting going to happen here.
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Relatively soon, you'll be able to buy a ticket
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and fly higher and faster than the highest-performance
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military operational airplane. It's never happened before.
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The fact that they have stuck here with this kind of performance
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has been, well, you know, you win the war in 12 minutes;
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why do you need something better?
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But I think when you guys start buying tickets and flying
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sub-orbital flights to space, very soon -- wait a minute,
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what's happening here, we'll have military fighters
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with sub-orbital capability, and I think very soon this.
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But the interesting thing about it is the commercial guys are going to go first.
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OK, I look forward to a new "capitalist's space race," let's call it.
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You remember the space race in the '60s was for national prestige,
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because we lost the first two milestones.
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We didn't lose them technically. The fact that we had the hardware
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to put something in orbit when we let Von Braun fly it --
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you can argue that's not a technical loss.
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Sputnik wasn't a technical loss, but it was a prestige loss.
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America -- the world saw America as not being the leader in technology,
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and that was a very strong thing.
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And then we flew Alan Shepherd weeks after Gagarin,
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not months or decades, or whatever. So we had the capability.
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But America lost. We lost. And because of that, we made a big jump to recover it.
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Well, again, what's interesting here is we've lost
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to the Russians on the first couple of milestones already.
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You cannot buy a ticket commercially to fly into space in America --
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can't do it. You can buy it in Russia.
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You can fly with Russian hardware. This is available
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because a Russian space program is starving,
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and it's nice for them to get 20 million here and there to take one of the seats.
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It's commercial. It can be defined as space tourism. They are also offering a trip
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to go on this whip around the moon, like Apollo 8 was done.
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100 million bucks -- hey, I can go to the moon.
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But, you know, would you have thought back in the '60s,
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when the space race was going on,
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that the first commercial capitalist-like thing to do
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to buy a ticket to go to the moon would be in Russian hardware?
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And would you have thought, would the Russians have thought,
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that when they first go to the moon in their developed hardware,
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the guys inside won't be Russians? Maybe it'll probably be a Japanese
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or an American billionaire? Well, that's weird: you know, it really is.
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But anyway, I think we need to beat them again.
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I think what we'll do is we'll see a successful, very successful,
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private space flight industry. Whether we're first or not really doesn't matter.
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The Russians actually flew a supersonic transport before the Concorde.
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And then they flew a few cargo flights, and took it out of service.
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I think you kind of see the same kind of parallel
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when the commercial stuff is offered.
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OK, we'll talk just a little bit about commercial development for human space flight.
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This little thing says here: five times
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what NASA's doing by 2020. I want to tell you, already
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there's about 1.5 billion to 1.7 billion
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investment in private space flight that is not government at all --
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already, worldwide. If you read -- if you Google it,
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you'll find about half of that money, but there's twice of that
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being committed out there -- not spent yet, but being committed
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and planned for the next few years. Hey, that's pretty big.
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I'm predicting, though, as profitable as this industry is going to be --
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and it certainly is profitable when you fly people at 200,000 dollars
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on something that you can actually operate at a tenth of that cost,
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or less -- this is going to be very profitable.
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I predict, also, that the investment that will flow into this
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will be somewhere around half of what the U.S. taxpayer
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spends for NASA's manned spacecraft work.
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And every dollar that flows into that will be spent more efficiently
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by a factor of 10 to 15. And what that means is before we know it,
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the progress in human space flight, with no taxpayer dollars,
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will be at a level of about five times as much
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as the current NASA budgets for human space flight.
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And that is because it's us. It's private industry.
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You should never depend on the government to do this sort of stuff --
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and we've done it for a long time. The NACA, before NASA,
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never developed an airliner and never ran an airline.
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But NASA is developing the space liner, always has,
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and runs the only space line, OK. And we've shied away from it
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because we're afraid of it. But starting back in June of 2004,
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when I showed that a little group out there actually can do it,
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can get a start with it, everything changed after that time.
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OK, thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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