Enrique Peñalosa: Why buses represent democracy in action

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翻译人员: Zhiting Chen 校对人员: Geoff Chen
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Mobility in developing world cities
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在世界上发展中国家城市里
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is a very peculiar challenge,
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流动性是一个非常严峻的挑战
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because different from health
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因为它和健康
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or education or housing,
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教育或住房不同
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it tends to get worse as societies become richer.
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当社会变得更富有时 它反而变得更糟
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Clearly, a unsustainable model.
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显然,是一个不可持续的发展模式
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Mobility, as most other developing country problems,
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流动性,如同其他大多数 发展中国家所遇到的问题
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more than a matter of money or technology,
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不仅仅是钱或科技的问题
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is a matter of equality, equity.
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更是有关平等、 公平的问题
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The great inequality in developing countries
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发展中国家巨大的不平等
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makes it difficult to see, for example,
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让我们很难看到,例如
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that in terms of transport,
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在交通方面
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an advanced city is not one
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一个发达的城市
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where even the poor use cars,
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不是连穷人都能使用汽车的地方
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but rather one where even the rich
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而是甚至富有的人
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use public transport.
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都去使用公共交通工具的地方
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Or bicycles: For example, in Amsterdam,
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像是自行车: 例如,在阿姆斯特丹
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more than 30 percent of the population
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超过 30% 的人口
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uses bicycles,
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使用自行车
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despite the fact that the Netherlands has
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尽管事实上,荷兰的人均收入
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a higher income per capita than the United States.
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已高过美国
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There is a conflict in developing world cities
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发展中国家城市内部也有矛盾
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for money, for government investment.
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为了钱,为了政府投资
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If more money is invested in highways,
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如果更多的钱投资在路政上
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of course there is less money for housing,
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那么投资在房屋
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for schools, for hospitals,
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学校, 医院,各方面的钱就会减少
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and also there is a conflict for space.
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当然也有为了争夺空间的矛盾
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There is a conflict for space between
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矛盾出现在
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those with cars and those without them.
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那些有汽车和那些没有汽车的人之间
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Most of us accept today
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今天我们大多数人接受
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that private property and a market economy
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私人财产和市场经济
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is the best way to manage most of society's resources.
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是管理大部分社会资源的最佳方式
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However, there is a problem with that,
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然而,随之而来的一个问题是
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that market economy needs
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市场经济需要通过
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inequality of income in order to work.
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收入不平等来鼓励人们工作
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Some people must make more money,
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有些人自然赚到更多的钱
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some others less.
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有些人赚的就较少一些
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Some companies succeed. Others fail.
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一些公司获得成功,一些公司倒闭
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Then what kind of equality
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那么什么样的平等
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can we hope for today
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是我们今天在市场经济条件下
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with a market economy?
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所期待的?
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I would propose two kinds
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我提出两种
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which both have much to do with cities.
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这两种都与城市有关
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The first one is equality of quality of life,
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第一种是生活质量的平等
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especially for children,
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特别是对儿童来说
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that all children should have,
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所有儿童都应该拥有
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beyond the obvious health and education,
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除了健康和教育条件外
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access to green spaces, to sports facilities,
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享受绿地,使用体育设施
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to swimming pools, to music lessons.
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使用泳池, 接触音乐课程
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And the second kind of equality
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我所说的第二种平等
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is one which we could call "democratic equality."
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我们称之为“民主权利平等”
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The first article in every constitution states
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每个国家宪法的第一条规定都是
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that all citizens are equal before the law.
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所有公民在法律面前一律平等
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That is not just poetry.
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这不只是诗
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It's a very powerful principle.
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而是一个强有力的原则
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For example, if that is true,
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举例来说,如果这是真的
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a bus with 80 passengers
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载有 80 名乘客的巴士
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has a right to 80 times more road space
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有权获得比单人驾驶的小汽车
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than a car with one.
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多 80 倍的道路空间
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We have been so used to inequality, sometimes,
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我们已经非常习惯于不平等,有时
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that it's before our noses and we do not see it.
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它就在面前,我们看不到它
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Less than 100 years ago,
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几十年前
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women could not vote,
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女性没有投票权
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and it seemed normal,
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好像是正常的事
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in the same way that it seems normal today
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正如今天我们看到
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to see a bus in traffic.
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一辆公共汽车处在拥挤的道路中
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In fact, when I became mayor,
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事实上,当我成为市长的时候
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applying that democratic principle
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运用这一民主原则
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that public good prevails over private interest,
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即公众利益高于私人利益
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that a bus with 100 people
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当一辆巴士载有 100 人
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has a right to 100 times more road space than a car,
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就有权获得比一辆小车 多 100 倍的道路空间
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we implemented a mass transit system
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我们实施了一个大运量客运系统
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based on buses in exclusive lanes.
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基于公交专用车道
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We called it TransMilenio, in order to make buses sexier.
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我们为它命名“穿越千禧” 为了让巴士更性感
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And one thing is that it is also a very beautiful democratic symbol, because as buses zoom by,
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还有一个非常漂亮的民主符号是 当巴士飞驰而过
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expensive cars stuck in traffic,
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而昂贵的豪华轿车被堵在路上
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it clearly is almost a picture of democracy at work.
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很明显,这就是民主得到实现的画面
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In fact, it's not just a matter of equity.
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事实上,它不仅仅是公平问题
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It doesn't take Ph.D.'s.
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不需要博士
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A committee of 12-year-old children
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一组 12 岁的儿童
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would find out in 20 minutes
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就能在 20 分钟内找出
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that the most efficient way to use scarce road space
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使用有限道路空间的最有效方法
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is with exclusive lanes for buses.
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是设立公交车专用车道
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In fact, buses are not sexy,
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事实上,公共汽车并不性感
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but they are the only possible means
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但它们是唯一可能
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to bring mass transit to all areas
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在快速发展的发展型城市
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of fast growing developing cities.
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提供大量客运的交通工具
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They also have great capacity.
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它们有很大的容量
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For example, this system in Guangzhou
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例如,这系统在广州
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is moving more passengers our direction
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比中国所有的地铁线路
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than all subway lines in China,
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能运送更多的乘客
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except for one line in Beijing,
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除了北京的一条地铁线
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at a fraction of the cost.
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且成本只是地铁的一小部分
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We fought not just for space for buses,
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我们不只是为巴士争取空间
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but we fought for space for people,
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我们也为人们争取空间
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and that was even more difficult.
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那是更加困难的事
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Cities are human habitats,
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城市是人类栖息地
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and we humans are pedestrians.
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我们人类是喜欢行走的
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Just as fish need to swim or birds need to fly
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就像鱼需要游泳或鸟需要飞
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or deer need to run, we need to walk.
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或鹿需要奔跑,我们需要行走
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There is a really enormous conflict,
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真的有非常巨大的矛盾
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when we are talking about developing country cities,
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当我们谈论发展中国家的城市
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between pedestrians and cars.
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行人与汽车的关系
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Here, what you see is a picture that shows
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在这里,你看到的是一张
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insufficient democracy.
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显示不够民主的图片
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What this shows is that people who walk
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这表明的是,行人
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are third-class citizens
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是三等公民
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while those who go in cars
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而那些开车的
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are first-class citizens.
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则是一等公民
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In terms of transport infrastructure,
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从交通基础设施方面看
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what really makes a difference
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什么是真正区别
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between advanced and backward cities
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先进和落后的城市之间的
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is not highways or subways
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不是高速公路或地铁
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but quality sidewalks.
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而是有无适宜的人行道
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Here they made a flyover, probably very useless,
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这里,他们建造了一座天桥,可能非常无用
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and they forgot to make a sidewalk.
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而且,他们忘了修建人行道
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This is prevailing all over the world.
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这样的现象在世界各地普遍存在
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Not even schoolchildren are more important than cars.
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甚至在校学童都没有汽车重要
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In my city of Bogotá,
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在我的城市波哥大
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we fought a very difficult battle
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我们打了一场非常困难的战斗
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in order to take space from cars,
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来为人们争取更多的空间
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which had been parking on sidewalks for decades,
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为了夺回汽车所占有的空间
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in order to make space for people that should reflect
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有些车几十年来停放在人行道上
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dignity of human beings,
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这夺回的空间反映的是人类的尊严
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and to make space for protected bikeways.
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并且,使空间保护里的自行车道
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First of all, I had black hair before that.
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首先,在那之前我满头黑发
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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And I was almost impeached in the process.
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过程中,我几乎遭到弹劾
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It is a very difficult battle.
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这是场非常艰难的战斗
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However, it was possible, finally,
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然而,我们成功了,最终
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after very difficult battles, to make a city
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艰苦的战斗结束后
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that would reflect some respect for human dignity,
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让一座城市对人类尊严有些许尊重
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that would show that those who walk are equally
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以证明那些行人
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important to those who have cars.
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和那些有车的人同等重要
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Indeed, a very important ideological and political issue anywhere
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事实上,任何地方最重要的 意识形态和政治纷争
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is how to distribute that most valuable resource
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就是如何分配城市最宝贵的资源
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of a city, which is road space.
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就是道路空间
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A city could find oil or diamonds underground
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一个城市能在地下能找到石油或钻石
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and it would not be so valuable as road space.
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那也没有道路空间更为宝贵
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How to distribute it between pedestrians,
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如何将它分配给行人
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bicycles, public transport and cars?
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自行车、公共交通和汽车呢?
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This is not a technological issue,
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这不是一个技术问题
当我们分配道路资源的时候 我们应该记住,没有任何一部宪法
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and we should remember that in no constitution
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parking is a constitutional right
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没有任何一部宪法表明
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when we make that distribution.
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停车是一项宪法权利
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We also built, and this was 15 years ago,
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我们还建造了,这是 15 年前
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before there were bikeways in New York
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在纽约,巴黎,或者伦敦
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or in Paris or in London,
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有自行车道之前
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it was a very difficult battle as well,
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那也是场非常困难的斗争
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more than 350 kilometers of protected bicycle ways.
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保护 350 公里以上的自行车道
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I don't think protected bicycle ways
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我不认为自行车道
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are a cute architectural feature.
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是一个可爱的建筑特征
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They are a right, just as sidewalks are,
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它是一种权利,正如人行道一样
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unless we believe that only those
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除非我们认为,只有那些
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with access to a motor vehicle
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能使用机动车辆的人
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have a right to safe mobility,
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才有权安全地流动
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without the risk of getting killed.
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不用受到致命的危险
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And just as busways are,
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正如巴士专用道
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protected bikeways also are
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自行车道也是
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a powerful symbol of democracy,
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民主的一个强有力的象征
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because they show that a citizen on a $30 bicycle
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因为它们表明 骑价值 30 美金自行车的公民
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is equally important
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和一个驾驶3 万美元汽车的公民
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to one in a $30,000 car.
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同等重要
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And we are living in a unique moment in history.
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我们生活在一个特殊历史时刻
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In the next 50 years, more than half of those cities
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在未来的 50 年,我们所建造的城市
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which will exist in the year 2060 will be built.
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一半以上,在 2060 年的时候,仍会存在
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In many developing country cities,
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许多发展中国家
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more than 80 and 90 percent
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其中超过百分之八九十
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of the city which will exist in 2060
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到 2060 年仍会存在的城市
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will be built over the next four or five decades.
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将在未来的四五十年间建立起来
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But this is not just a matter for developing country cities.
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但这不只是发展中国家的城市
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In the United States, for example,
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在美国,例如
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more than 70 million new homes
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超过 7000 万的新房
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must be built over the next 40 or 50 years.
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必须在接下来的四五十年间建造完成
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That's more than all the homes that today exist
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其数量相当于今天
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in Britain, France and Canada put together.
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英国、法国和加拿大 所有的房子加在一起
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And I believe that our cities today
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我相信今天我们的城市
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have severe flaws,
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有严重缺陷
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and that different, better ones could be built.
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不同的更好的那种房屋会被建造起来
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What is wrong with our cities today?
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今天我们的城市哪里有问题呢?
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Well, for example, if we tell any three-year-old child
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好吧,例如,如果我们告诉任何三岁孩童
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who is barely learning to speak
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这些儿童还不怎么会讲话
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in any city in the world today,
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在今天世界上的任何城市
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"Watch out, a car,"
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"小心,有车"
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the child will jump in fright,
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孩子会受惊吓跳起来
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and with a very good reason, because there are
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很好解释,因为全世界
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more than 10,000 children who are killed
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每年有超过一万名儿童死于
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by cars every year in the world.
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汽车造成的交通事故
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We have had cities for 8,000 years,
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城市的历史长达 8000 年
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and children could walk out of home and play.
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儿童可以走出家,去玩儿
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In fact, only very recently,
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事实上,只是在最近
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towards 1900, there were no cars.
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直到 1900 年,是没有汽车的
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Cars have been here for really less than 100 years.
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汽车的存在不到 100 年
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They completely changed cities.
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但它们完全改变了城市
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In 1900, for example,
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在 1900 年,例如
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nobody was killed by cars in the United States.
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美国死于车祸的人数为零
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Only 20 years later,
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仅仅 20 年后
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between 1920 and 1930,
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1920 年至 1930 年间
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almost 200,000 people
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近 20 万人
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were killed by cars in the United States.
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在美国死于车祸
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Only in 1925, almost 7,000 children
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在 1925 年,近 7000 名儿童
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were killed by cars in the United States.
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在美国死于车祸
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So we could make different cities,
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所以我们可以创建不一样的城市
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cities that will give more priority to human beings
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创建那种适合人类生活
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than to cars, that will give more public space
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而不是汽车的城市 将更多的公共空间
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to human beings than to cars,
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给予人类而不是汽车的城市
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cities which show great respect
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那些对最容易受到伤害的公民
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for those most vulnerable citizens,
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比如孩子或者长者
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such as children or the elderly.
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给予极大尊重的城市
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I will propose to you a couple of ingredients
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我接下来的提案将包含几项
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which I think would make cities much better,
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我认为将使城市变得更好的措施
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and it would be very simple to implement them
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在新建城市中非常简单易行
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in the new cities which are only being created.
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非常简单易行
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Hundreds of kilometers of greenways
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数百公里的绿色街道
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criss-crossing cities in all directions.
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纵横交错于城市中
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Children will walk out of homes into safe spaces.
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儿童将可以走出家门,外面也同样安全
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They could go for dozens of kilometers safely
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他们可以安全地在数十公里
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without any risk in wonderful greenways,
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美好的绿色廊道
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sort of bicycle highways,
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类似自行车公路的地方自由活动
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and I would invite you to imagine the following:
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我想邀请你来想象一下以下画面:
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a city in which every other street would be
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一座城市,每条街道将
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a street only for pedestrians and bicycles.
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只是人行道和自行车道
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In new cities which are going to be built,
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在即将建造的新城市中
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this would not be particularly difficult.
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做到这点并不是特别困难
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When I was mayor of Bogotá,
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当我担任波哥大市长的时候
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in only three years, we were able to create
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仅三年,我们就建造了
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70 kilometers,
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70 公里
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in one of the most dense cities in the world,
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而且是在世界上 人口最稠密的城市之一
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of these bicycle highways.
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70 公里的自行车公路
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And this changes the way people live,
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这改变了人们的生活
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move, enjoy the city.
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出行和享受城市的方式
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In this picture, you see in one of the very poor neighborhoods,
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在这张图片里,你可以看到 在一个非常贫穷的社区
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we have a luxury pedestrian bicycle street,
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我们有豪华的自行车行人专用道
11:11
and the cars still in the mud.
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而汽车仍行驶在土地上
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Of course, I would love to pave this street for cars.
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当然,我很乐意铺好这条街的机动车道
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But what do we do first?
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但我们首先做的是什么呢?
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Ninety-nine percent of the people in those neighborhoods don't have cars.
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在这个街区,99% 的人没有车
11:21
But you see, when a city is only being created,
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但你看,一座城市只被创建时
11:23
it's very easy to incorporate
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很容易将
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this kind of infrastructure.
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这种基础设施纳入规划
11:28
Then the city grows around it.
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然后城市的其他设施 在这附近建立起来
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And of course this is just a glimpse
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当然这是只是惊鸿一瞥
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of something which could be much better
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可以带来更好的生活
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if we just create it,
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我们只是创建它
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and it changes the way of life.
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它就改变了我们的生活方式
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And the second ingredient, which would solve mobility,
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第二要素将解决流动性的问题
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that very difficult challenge in developing countries,
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在发展中国家,这非常艰难的挑战
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in a very low-cost and simple way,
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一个成本非常低且简单易行的方法是
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would be to have hundreds of kilometers
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将数百公里的道路
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of streets only for buses,
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打造成专用道,巴士专用道
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buses and bicycles and pedestrians.
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公交车专用道、自行车专用道和人行道
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This would be, again, a very low-cost solution
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这将是一个成本十分低廉的解决方案
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if implemented from the start,
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如果从头开始实施
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low cost, pleasant transit
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成本低,带来令人愉快的转变
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with natural sunlight.
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享受自然阳光
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But unfortunately, reality is not as good
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但不幸的是,现实和我
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as my dreams.
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梦想的不一样
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Because of private property of land
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由于土地的私有权
12:21
and high land prices,
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和高价格因素
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all developing country cities have a large problem of slums.
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所有发展中国家的城市 都有贫民窟这个难题
12:27
In my country of Colombia, almost half the homes
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在我生活的国家哥伦比亚 城市中几乎一半的房屋
12:30
in cities initially were illegal developments.
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是在城市修建之初的违建
12:35
And of course it's very difficult to have
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当然这就为使用
12:38
mass transit or to use bicycles in such environments.
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公共交通或使用自行车 带来了诸多不便
12:42
But even legal developments
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不过,即使是符合法律的发展
12:44
have also been located in the wrong places,
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也发展在了错误的地方
12:47
very far from the city centers
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像是离市中心很远的地方
12:50
where it's impossible to provide
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在那里是不可能提供
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low-cost, high-frequency public transport.
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低成本、高效率的公共交通的
12:56
As a Latin American, and Latin America
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作为一个拉丁美洲国家
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was the most recently organized region in the world,
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拉丁美洲是世界上 近年来按秩序发展的区域
13:02
I would recommend, respectfully, passionately,
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我恭敬地,充满激情地建议
13:07
to those countries which are yet to urbanize --
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这些尚有待于城市化的国家 --
13:11
Latin America went from 40 percent urban in 1950
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拉丁美洲去的城市化从 1950 年的 40%
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to 80 percent urban in 2010 --
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增长到 2010 年的 80% --
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I would recommend Asian and African countries
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我建议亚洲国家和非洲国家
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which are yet to urbanize,
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那些仍未城市化的地方
13:27
such as India which is only 33 percent urban now,
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比如印度,印度城市化目前只有 33%
13:32
that governments should acquire all land around cities.
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当地政府应掌握城市周围的所有土地
13:35
In this way, their cities could grow in the right places
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这样,这些城市才会合理发展
13:37
with the right spaces, with the parks,
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建有公园
13:39
with the greenways, with the busways.
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绿色街道,公交车道
13:42
The cities we are going to build
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未来 50 年
13:44
over the next 50 years
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我们要建的城市
13:46
will determine quality of life and even happiness
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将决定未来数十亿人民的
13:48
for billions of people towards the future.
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生活质量,甚至幸福感
13:50
What a fantastic opportunity for leaders
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这对许多领导人和年轻领袖
13:54
and many young leaders to come,
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是绝好的机会
13:56
especially in the developing countries.
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特别是对那些在发展中国家的来说
13:58
They can create a much happier life
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他们可以为未来数十亿人民
14:00
for billions towards the future.
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带来更加幸福快乐的生活
14:01
I am sure, I am optimistic,
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我坚信这点,我很乐观
14:03
that they will make cities better
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他们将使城市
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than our most ambitious dreams.
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比我们所期望的更好
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(Applause)
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