Stefana Broadbent: How the Internet enables intimacy

120,362 views ・ 2009-11-02

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翻译人员: Angelia King 校对人员: Chaoran Yu
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I believe that there are new, hidden tensions
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我相信,有新的,隐藏的紧张关系
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that are actually happening between people and institutions --
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发生在人们与制度之间,
00:22
institutions that are the institutions that people
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在人们日常生活中
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inhabit in their daily life:
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的制度如:
00:26
schools, hospitals, workplaces,
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学校、医院、工作场所、
00:29
factories, offices, etc.
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工厂、办公室等等。
00:32
And something that I see happening
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我看到的这些关系
00:35
is something that I would like to call
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是被我称之为的
00:37
a sort of "democratization of intimacy."
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一种“民主化的亲密关系。”
00:39
And what do I mean by that?
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这是什么意思呢?
00:41
I mean that what people are doing
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事实上,我指的是人们正在做的
00:43
is, in fact, they are sort of, with their communication channels,
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就是在他们所处的沟通渠道中,
00:47
they are breaking an imposed isolation
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他们试图打破一种强加的孤立,
00:51
that these institutions are imposing on them.
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一种由于这些制度对他们所强加的孤立。
00:55
How are they doing this? They're doing it
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人们怎样才能做到这点?他们正用
00:57
in a very simple way, by calling their mom from work,
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非常简单的方法来做到,例如工作时给妈妈打电话,
00:59
by IMing from their office to their friends,
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从办公室给朋友们发即时通讯,
01:03
by texting under the desk.
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在桌子下发短信。
01:05
The pictures that you're seeing behind me
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你看到我身后的这些照片
01:07
are people that I visited in the last few months.
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是我过去几个月采访的人们。
01:10
And I asked them to come along with the person they communicate with most.
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我请求他们带来他们联系最多,最亲密的人。
01:14
And somebody brought a boyfriend, somebody a father.
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有人带来她的男朋友,有人带来父亲。
01:17
One young woman brought her grandfather.
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一位年轻女人带来她的爷爷。
01:20
For 20 years, I've been looking at how people use
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20年来,我一直在研究人们如何使用
01:22
channels such as email, the mobile phone, texting, etc.
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如电子邮件、移动电话和短信等的通信渠道。
01:26
What we're actually going to see is that, fundamentally,
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从根本上,我们实际上要看到的是,
01:28
people are communicating on a regular basis
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人们与他们最亲密领域里的
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with five, six, seven of their most intimate sphere.
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五,六,七个人定期交流联系。
01:35
Now, lets take some data. Facebook.
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现在例如一些有关Facebook的数据。
01:37
Recently some sociologists from Facebook --
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最近一些社会学家从Facebook,
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Facebook is the channel that you would expect
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Facebook是人们所期望的
01:41
is the most enlargening of all channels.
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所有社交网络中最庞大的一个。
01:44
And an average user,
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一位Facebook的普通用户,
01:46
said Cameron Marlow,
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卡梅伦马洛Cameron Marlow说,
01:49
from Facebook, has about 120 friends.
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他大约有120个朋友。
01:52
But he actually talks to,
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但是根据他的性别,他实际上
01:54
has two-way exchanges with, about four to six people
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只与大约4至6人
01:57
on a regular base, depending on his gender.
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定期双向交流。
01:59
Academic research on instant messaging
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在即时通讯学术研究
02:01
also shows 100 people on buddy lists,
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也显示好友名单上的100个人,
02:04
but fundamentally people chat with two, three, four --
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但基本上人们只和二个,三个,四个人相互交流,
02:07
anyway, less than five.
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无论如何,不会超过5个人。
02:09
My own research on cellphones and voice calls
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而由我做的关于手机和语音呼叫研究中
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shows that 80 percent of the calls
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表明百分之八十的来电
02:15
are actually made to four people. 80 percent.
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实际上是和4个人对话。百分之八十。
02:18
And when you go to Skype, it's down to two people.
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当你上Skype,就只和两个人聊天。
02:21
A lot of sociologists actually are quite disappointed.
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很多的社会学家的确对此很失望。
02:23
I mean, I've been a bit disappointed sometimes
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我的意思是,当我看到这数据和这一切只是和5个人交流
02:26
when I saw this data and all this deployment, just for five people.
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我也感到失望。
02:30
And some sociologists actually feel that
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而一些社会学家实际上认为,
02:32
it's a closure, it's a cocooning,
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这就是一个封闭的区间,这就是一个茧,
02:37
that we're disengaging from the public.
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以致于我们正与公众脱离开。
02:39
And I would actually, I would like to show you that
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而我实际上,我想展示给你们的是,
02:41
if we actually look at who is doing it,
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如果我们实际看看谁在通信,
02:43
and from where they're doing it,
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他们在哪里交流着,
02:45
actually there is an incredible social transformation.
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这事实上是一个令人难以置信的社会转变。
02:48
There are three stories that I think are quite good examples.
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这有三个故事,我认为它们是相当不错的例子。
02:50
The first gentleman, he's a baker.
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第一位绅士,他是一位面包师。
02:52
And so he starts working every morning at four o'clock in the morning.
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他每天在早上四点开始工作。
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And around eight o'clock he sort of sneaks away from his oven,
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大概早上8点左右他就偷偷离开他的烤箱,
02:58
cleans his hands from the flour
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清洗他和面团的双手,
03:00
and calls his wife.
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并打电话给他的妻子。
03:02
He just wants to wish her a good day, because that's the start of her day.
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因为这是她新的一天,他只是想祝福她有美好的一天。
03:05
And I've heard this story a number of times.
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而且我听说过这种故事很多次。
03:08
A young factory worker who works night shifts,
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一位年轻的夜班工人
03:11
who manages to sneak away from the factory floor,
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从工厂车间要偷偷离开一下,
03:14
where there is CCTV by the way,
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顺便说一下,那有闭路电视,
03:16
and find a corner, where at 11 o'clock at night
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他找到一个拐角,在夜里11点钟,
03:18
he can call his girlfriend and just say goodnight.
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他给女友电话只是问声晚安。
03:21
Or a mother who, at four o'clock,
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或者一位母亲,在4点钟,
03:23
suddenly manages to find a corner in the toilet
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突然在厕所的角落里打电话
03:26
to check that her children are safely home.
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查问她的孩子们是否安全地回家。
03:30
Then there is another couple, there is a Brazilian couple.
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接下来另一个例子,他们是一对巴西夫妇。
03:32
They've lived in Italy for a number of years.
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他们在意大利生活多年。
03:34
They Skype with their families a few times a week.
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他们与家人一个星期有几次Skype聊天。
03:37
But once a fortnight, they actually put the computer on their dining table,
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但是,每两周一次,他们真的把电脑放在他们的餐桌上,
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pull out the webcam and actually have dinner
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设置好摄像头,竟然就
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with their family in Sao Paulo. And they have a big event of it.
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与他们在圣保罗的家庭一起晚餐。他们有了一个家宴大活动。
03:46
And I heard this story the first time a couple of years ago
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我第一次听说这种故事是几年前
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from a very modest family
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从一个非常温馨的在瑞士居住的
03:51
of immigrants from Kosovo in Switzerland.
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科索沃移民家庭。
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They had set up a big screen in their living room,
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他们在自己的客厅有一个大屏幕。
03:57
and every morning they had breakfast with their grandmother.
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每天清晨,通过屏幕,他们与他们的祖母共进早餐。
04:00
But Danny Miller, who is a very good anthropologist
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丹尼米勒Danny Miller是一位很好的人类学家,
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who is working on Filipina migrant women
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他研究菲律宾籍移民妇女,
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who leave their children back in the Philippines,
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这些妇女离开她们在菲律宾的孩子们,
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was telling me about how much parenting is going on
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他曾告诉我有父母教育子女是
04:14
through Skype,
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通过Skype来交流的,
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and how much these mothers are engaged with their children through Skype.
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还有很多这些菲律宾母亲们通过Skype来了解她们的孩子们。
04:20
And then there is the third couple. They are two friends.
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然后还有第三个例子。他们是两个朋友。
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They chat to each other every day, a few times a day actually.
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每天他们互相聊天,甚至一天好几次。
04:27
And finally, finally, they've managed to put
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最终他们工作时试着在电脑上
04:29
instant messaging on their computers at work.
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使用即时消息联系。
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And now, obviously, they have it open.
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现在,显然地,他们公开交流。
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Whenever they have a moment they chat to each other.
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每当他们有空闲,他们就互相交谈。
04:35
And this is exactly what we've been seeing
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这也正是我们所看到的
04:37
with teenagers and kids doing it in school, under the table,
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在学校, 在课桌下,青少年和孩子们正这样做,
04:40
and texting under the table to their friends.
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并给他们的朋友们发短信。
04:43
So, none of these cases are unique.
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所以,这些例子枚不胜举。
04:45
I mean, I could tell you hundreds of them.
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我意思是,我可以告诉你们数百个类似的例子。
04:47
But what is really exceptional is the setting.
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但真正特别的是设定背景。
04:50
So, think of the three settings I've talked to you about:
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那么想想这3个我所谈到的背景:
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factory, migration, office.
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工厂,移民,办公室。
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But it could be in a school, it could be an administration,
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但这也可能在学校,在政府,
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it could be a hospital.
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也可能在医院发生。
05:01
Three settings that, if we just step back 15 years,
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这3种背景下,如果我们只追随到15年前,
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if you just think back 15 years,
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如果你仅回想15年前,
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when you clocked in,
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当你打卡上班,
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when you clocked in to an office,
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打卡到办公室上班,
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when you clocked in to a factory,
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在工厂打卡上班,
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there was no contact for the whole duration of the time,
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在整个工作期间没有任何联系,
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there was no contact with your private sphere.
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与你的私人领域没有任何联系。
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If you were lucky there was a public phone hanging in the corridor or somewhere.
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你要是很幸运,在走廊处或某处可以用一个公共电话。
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If you were in management, oh, that was a different story.
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你要是管理层,哦,那就是另一回事。
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Maybe you had a direct line.
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你可能会有直线电话。
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If you were not, you maybe had to go through an operator.
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如果你没有直线电话,或许你必须通过一个操作员打电话。
05:30
But basically, when you walked into those buildings,
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但基本上,当你进入这些建筑物后,
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the private sphere was left behind you.
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你就没有了私人领域。
05:36
And this has become such a norm of our professional lives,
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这已成为我们职业生涯规范,
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such a norm and such an expectation.
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类似这样的规范,这样的期望。
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And it had nothing to do with technical capability.
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它与技术能力没有任何关系。
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The phones were there. But the expectation was once you moved in there
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手机就在那里。但是,一旦你进入到工作领域,所期望的是,
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your commitment was fully to the task at hand,
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你的义务就是全身心地完成手头的任务,
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fully to the people around you.
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全身心服务于你身边的人们。
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That was where the focus had to be.
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这就是要关注的事情。
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And this has become such a cultural norm
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这已成为一种文化规范,
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that we actually school our children for them to be capable to do this cleavage.
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它使得我们竟教育孩子们进行这种分离,不亲密的转变。
06:04
If you think nursery, kindergarten, first years of school
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如果你想想托儿所,幼儿园,开学第一年
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are just dedicated to take away the children,
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仅仅一味地带走孩子们,
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to make them used to staying long hours away from their family.
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让他们习惯远离他们自己的家庭很长的时间。
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And then the school enacts perfectly well.
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然后学校扮演了非常完美的角色,
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It mimics perfectly all the rituals that we will find in offices:
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完全模仿所有在办公室要发生的的规范仪式,
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rituals of entry, rituals of exit,
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进入的仪式,退出的仪式,
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the schedules, the uniforms in this country,
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时间表,在这个国家的制服,
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things that identify you, team-building activities,
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确定你身份的东西,团队建设活动,
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team building that will allow you to basically
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团队建设主要使你可以
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be with a random group of kids, or a random group of people
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与任何孩子们,或者随机的一群人
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that you will have to be with for a number of time.
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相处一段时间。
06:37
And of course, the major thing:
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当然,主要的事情:
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learn to pay attention,
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学会集中注意力,
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to concentrate and focus your attention.
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要集中精力,集中你的注意力。
06:44
This only started about 150 years ago.
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这大概于150年前开始。
06:46
It only started with the birth of modern bureaucracy,
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它(这种分离)随着当代官僚
06:49
and of industrial revolution.
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和工业革命的诞生而开始。
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When people basically had to go somewhere else to work
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当人们基本上要去别的地方工作
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and carry out the work.
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并开展工作。
06:56
And when with modern bureaucracy there was a very rational approach,
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随着当代官僚,就有一个非常合理的方法,
06:59
where there was a clear distinction between the private sphere
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那里有一个私人领域
07:01
and the public sphere.
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和公共领域之间的明确区分。
07:03
So, until then, basically people were living on top of their trades.
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所以,到那时,基本上人们生活在他们各自行业。
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They were living on top of the land they were laboring.
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他们生活在他们耕耘的土地上。
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They were living on top of the workshops where they were working.
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他们生活在他们工作的车间。
07:13
And if you think, it's permeated our whole culture,
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如果你想想看,它(这种分离)就贯穿我们的整个文化,
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even our cities.
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甚至我们的城市。
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If you think of medieval cities, medieval cities the boroughs
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如果你想想中世纪的城市,中世纪城市的市镇,
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all have the names of the guilds and professions that lived there.
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居住在那里的各行各业都有名字。
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Now we have sprawling residential suburbias
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现在我们有广阔的住宅郊区
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that are well distinct from production areas
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它很好地与生产区域
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and commercial areas.
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和商业领域分别开。
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And actually, over these 150 years,
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实际上,在这150年间,
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there has been a very clear class system that also has emerged.
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有一个非常明确的阶级制度也出现了。
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So the lower the status of the job
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因此,工作职责越低
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and of the person carrying out, the more removed
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和执行越低级工作的人,他越被剥夺
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he would be from his personal sphere.
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他的私人领域空间。
07:46
People have taken this amazing possibility
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人们一整天或者在任何情况下
07:49
of actually being in contact all through the day
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使用着这惊人的可以用来
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or in all types of situations.
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亲密联系的可能性交流。
07:53
And they are doing it massively.
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然而他们大规模地联系。
07:55
The Pew Institute, which produces good data
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皮尤研究所,定期提供的良好数据表明,
07:57
on a regular basis on, for instance, in the States,
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例如,在美国,
08:00
says that -- and I think that this number is conservative --
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我认为这个数据是保守的 -
08:02
50 percent of anybody with email access at work
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百分之五十的人在工作中通过电子邮件,
08:06
is actually doing private email from his office.
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实际上是从他的办公室发私人电子邮件。
08:09
I really think that the number is conservative.
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我的确认为这数据是保守的。
08:13
In my own research, we saw that the peak for private email
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就我自己的研究,我认为私人电邮的高峰
08:15
is actually 11 o'clock in the morning, whatever the country.
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实际上是早上的11点,不管什么国家。
08:19
75 percent of people admit doing private
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百分之七十五的人们承认
08:22
conversations from work on their mobile phones.
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在工作时用移动电话进行私人聊天。
08:25
100 percent are using text.
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百分之百地使用短信。
08:28
The point is that this re-appropriation of the personal sphere
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关键是这种私人领域的再兴起
08:32
is not terribly successful with all institutions.
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在所有机构并不是十分成功。
08:35
I'm always surprised the U.S. Army
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我经常吃惊,美国陆军
08:37
sociologists are discussing of the impact
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社会学家讨论着
08:39
for instance, of soldiers in Iraq
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例如伊拉克的军人们
08:41
having daily contact with their families.
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与他们的家人们每天联系的影响。
08:44
But there are many institutions that are actually blocking this access.
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但是许多机构实际上正在阻止这样的联系。
08:50
And every day, every single day,
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每一天,每一日,
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I read news that makes me cringe,
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我看到的新闻使我害怕,
08:54
like a $15 fine
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例如
08:56
to kids in Texas,
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针对于得克萨斯州的孩子们的15美元罚款,
08:58
for using, every time they take out their mobile phone in school.
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就因为在学校他们每次拿出和使用他们的移动电话。
09:01
Immediate dismissal to bus drivers in New York,
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如果纽约的公共汽车司机被看到手拿有移动电话,
09:05
if seen with a mobile phone in a hand.
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他就被立即解雇。
09:07
Companies blocking access to IM or to Facebook.
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公司禁止即时通讯和Facebook。
09:13
Behind issues of security and safety,
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除了安全保护问题,
09:16
which have always been the arguments for social control,
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一直有社交控制的舆论,
09:19
in fact what is going on is that
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事实上要发生的是
09:21
these institutions are trying to decide
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这些制度正决定着
09:25
who, in fact, has a right to self determine their attention,
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到底谁有权自行决定该关注的事情,
09:28
to decide, whether they should, or not, be isolated.
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去决定,是否它们应该,或者不应该,被孤立。
09:32
And they are actually trying to block, in a certain sense,
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在某种意义上,它们实际中在试图阻止
09:38
this movement of a greater possibility of intimacy.
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这种更有可能的亲密性运动。
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