Why some people find exercise harder than others | Emily Balcetis

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翻译人员: Wei Wu 校对人员: Yuanqing Edberg
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Vision is the most important
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视觉是我们所有感觉中
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and prioritized sense that we have.
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最重要和最优先的。
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We are constantly looking
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我们在不停地注视着
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at the world around us,
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周围的一切,
00:21
and quickly we identify and make sense
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并且快速的识别和分析
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of what it is that we see.
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我们所看到的事物。
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Let's just start with an example
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让我先举一个例子
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of that very fact.
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来说明这个事实。
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I'm going to show you a photograph of a person,
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我会让你们花几秒钟时间
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just for a second or two,
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来观看一个人的照片,
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and I'd like for you to identify
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并且请你们辨别出
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what emotion is on his face.
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这个人的表情所代表的情绪。
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Ready?
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准备好了吗?
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Here you go. Go with your gut reaction.
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就是这张,跟随你们的第一感觉,
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Okay. What did you see?
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好了,你们看到了什么?
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Well, we actually surveyed
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事实上我们调查了
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over 120 individuals,
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一百二十多个人,
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and the results were mixed.
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而调查结果很复杂。
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People did not agree
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人们在所看到的情绪上面
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on what emotion they saw on his face.
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并没有达成共识。
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Maybe you saw discomfort.
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可能你看到了不安,
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That was the most frequent response
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这是我们收到的
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that we received.
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最常见的回答。
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But if you asked the person on your left,
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但是如果你问问你左边的人,
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they might have said regret or skepticism,
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他们也许会说是遗憾或者怀疑。
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and if you asked somebody on your right,
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如果问的是右边的人,
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they might have said something entirely different,
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他们的回答可能又完全不同,
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like hope or empathy.
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比如说希望或者同情。
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So we are all looking
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那么我们现在
01:13
at the very same face again.
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再回到这张照片。
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We might see something
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我们可能会看到
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entirely different,
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完全不同的东西。
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because perception is subjective.
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因为感觉是主观的,
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What we think we see
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我们认为自己所看到的东西
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is actually filtered
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事实上是经过
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through our own mind's eye.
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我们思维的视角过滤过的。
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Of course, there are many other examples
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当然,还有很多其他例子能
01:31
of how we see the world through own mind's eye.
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证明我们是如何通过 主观思维的视角观察世界的。
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I'm going to give you just a few.
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再举几个这样的例子。
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So dieters, for instance,
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比如说,节食者
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see apples as larger
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眼中的苹果
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than people who are not counting calories.
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会比不节食的人眼中的更大。
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Softball players see the ball as smaller
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当垒球运动员从他的低迷状态中 恢复的时候,
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if they've just come out of a slump,
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相比起那些手感火热的运动员
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compared to people who had a hot night at the plate.
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会感觉球更小。
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And actually, our political beliefs also
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事实上, 我们的政治信仰
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can affect the way we see other people,
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也会影响我们观察其他人,
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including politicians.
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包括政治家。
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So my research team and I decided to test this question.
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所以我和我的研究团队决定探索这个问题。
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In 2008, Barack Obama was running for president
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在2008年,巴拉克-奥巴马正在第一次
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for the very first time,
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竞选总统。
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and we surveyed hundreds of Americans
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我们在选举开始前一个月,
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one month before the election.
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调查了几百名美国人。
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What we found in this survey
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研究表明
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was that some people, some Americans,
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一些人,一些美国公民
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think photographs like these
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认为这样的照片
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best reflect how Obama really looks.
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展现了奥巴马最真实的一面。
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Of these people, 75 percent
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这些人中的75%
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voted for Obama in the actual election.
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在选举中投票给了奥巴马。
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Other people, though, thought photographs like these
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但是其他的人认为在这些照片中
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best reflect how Obama really looks.
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奥巴马看起来更真实,
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89 percent of these people
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他们中的89%
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voted for McCain.
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投票给了麦凯恩。
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We presented many photographs of Obama
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我们把许多奥巴马的照片
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one at a time,
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每次逐张地展示,
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so people did not realize that what we were changing
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所以人们并没有意识到,
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from one photograph to the next
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在这些照片中
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was whether we had artificially lightened
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我们只是人为地
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or darkened his skin tone.
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调亮或调暗了他的肤色。
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So how is that possible?
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那么这是为什么呢?
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How could it be that when I look at a person,
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为什么当我观察一个人,
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an object, or an event,
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一个物体或一个事件的时候,
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I see something very different
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我所看到的与其他人
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than somebody else does?
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非常不同呢?
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Well, the reasons are many,
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原因有很多。
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but one reason requires that we understand
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其中的一个要求我们了解一些
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a little bit more about how our eyes work.
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眼睛的工作原理。
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So vision scientists know
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视觉科学家们知道
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that the amount of information
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我们的视觉
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that we can see
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at any given point in time,
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在任意给定时刻
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what we can focus on, is actually relatively small.
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所掌握的信息量,
我们所能聚焦的范围其实是很少的。
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What we can see with great sharpness
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我们在保证较高的锐利度,
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and clarity and accuracy
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清晰度和准确度下所能看到的范围,
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is the equivalent
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等同于
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of the surface area of our thumb
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把胳膊伸直时
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on our outstretched arm.
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大拇指那么大,
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Everything else around that is blurry,
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这片区域周围的一切都是模糊的,
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rendering much of what is presented
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导致大部分呈现在眼中的事物
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to our eyes as ambiguous.
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都是模糊的。
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But we have to clarify
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但是我们必须进行辨认,
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and make sense of what it is that we see,
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以识别出我们看到的是什么。
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and it's our mind that helps us fill in that gap.
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这时大脑就会帮助我们 填补缺失的信息,
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As a result, perception is a subjective experience,
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结果就是,感觉变得很主观,
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and that's how we end up seeing
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这就是我们如何通过思维的视角
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through our own mind's eye.
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进行观察的。
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So, I'm a social psychologist,
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我是一个社会心理学家,
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and it's questions like these
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所以这样的问题
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that really intrigue me.
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会让我非常感兴趣。
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I am fascinated by those times
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每当人们看到的东西不一样时,
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when people do not see eye to eye.
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我都会觉得非常有趣。
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Why is it that somebody might
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为什么有的人
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literally see the glass as half full,
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看一个杯子会认为它是半满的?
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and somebody literally sees it
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而另一些人会把它当成
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as half empty?
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半空的?
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What is it about what one person is thinking and feeling
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到底是什么使得一个人 所看到和感觉到的
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that leads them to see the world
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让他们从完全不同的角度
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in an entirely different way?
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观察这个世界呢?
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And does that even matter?
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这真的很重要吗?
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So to begin to tackle these questions,
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那么为了回答这个问题,
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my research team and I decided to delve deeply
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我和我的研究团队决定更加深入研究
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into an issue that has received
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一个引起了
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international attention:
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国际关注的问题:
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our health and fitness.
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我们的健康和健身。
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Across the world,
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全世界的人
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people are struggling to manage their weight,
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都在为了控制体重而奋斗。
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and there is a variety of strategies
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并且有许多不同的方式
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that we have to help us keep the pounds off.
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可以帮助我们减轻体重。
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For instance, we set the best of intentions
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例如我们会寄希望于
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to exercise after the holidays,
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在节假日之后进行锻炼。
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but actually, the majority of Americans
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但事实上,大部分美国人
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find that their New Year's resolutions
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都会遗憾的发现他们的新年变革之梦
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are broken by Valentine's Day.
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在情人节的时候就磨灭了。
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We talk to ourselves
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我们会告诉自己
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in very encouraging ways,
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并鼓励自己说,
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telling ourselves this is our year
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今年就是我们
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to get back into shape,
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成功恢复体型的时候。
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but that is not enough to bring us back
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但是这并不足以使我们真的
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to our ideal weight.
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恢复理想体重。
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So why?
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那么为什么呢?
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Of course, there is no simple answer,
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当然了,答案很复杂。
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but one reason, I argue,
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但是我认为,其中一个原因,
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is that our mind's eye
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是我们的思维视角
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might work against us.
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可能会阻碍我们的努力。
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Some people may literally see exercise
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有些人可能会认为锻炼
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as more difficult,
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是个相当困难的过程,
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and some people might literally
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而有些人则会认为
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see exercise as easier.
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它其实很容易。
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So, as a first step to testing these questions,
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所以,为了解决这些问题, 首先
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we gathered objective measurements
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我们为人们的体型状况
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of individuals' physical fitness.
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找出了客观的生理指标。
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We measured the circumference of their waist,
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我们测量了他们的腰围,
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compared to the circumference of their hips.
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并将之与他们的臀围做对比。
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A higher waist-to-hip ratio
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较高的腰臀比
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is an indicator of being less physically fit
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与较低的腰臀比相比,
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than a lower waist-to-hip ratio.
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健康状况更不理想。
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After gathering these measurements,
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得到了这些测量数据之后,
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we told our participants that
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我们要求我们的研究对象
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they would walk to a finish line
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带着负重
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while carrying extra weight
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走向一条终点线,
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in a sort of race.
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就像赛跑那样。
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But before they did that,
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但是在他们开始之前,
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we asked them to estimate the distance
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我们让他们估计
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to the finish line.
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到终点线的距离。
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We thought that the physical states of their body
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我们认为他们的身体状况
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might change how they perceived the distance.
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可能会影响他们对距离的估计。
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So what did we find?
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我们发现了什么呢?
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Well, waist-to-hip ratio
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事实上,腰臀比
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predicted perceptions of distance.
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预示了他们对距离的估测。
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People who were out of shape and unfit
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与体型状况更好的人相比
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actually saw the distance to the finish line
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那些身材走型的人,
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as significantly greater
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会认为
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than people who were in better shape.
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到终点的距离更远。
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People's states of their own body
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人们的身体状况
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changed how they perceived the environment.
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影响了他们观察环境的方式。
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But so too can our mind.
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但我们的大脑也可以。
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In fact, our bodies and our minds
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事实上,我们的身体和大脑
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work in tandem
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会共同
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to change how we see the world around us.
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影响我们对世界的观察。
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That led us to think that maybe people
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这使得我们想到
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with strong motivations
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或许那些有强烈动机
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and strong goals to exercise
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去运动的人们,
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might actually see the finish line as closer
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相比起动机较弱的人们
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than people who have weaker motivations.
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会认为终点线更近。
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So to test whether motivations
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所以为了测试
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affect our perceptual experiences in this way,
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动机是否会这样影响我们的观察,
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we conducted a second study.
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我们进行了第二项研究。
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Again, we gathered objective measurements
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我们又一次收集了
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of people's physical fitness,
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人们体型状况的测量数据,
06:56
measuring the circumference of their waist
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包括了他们的
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and the circumference of their hips,
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腰围和臀围,
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and we had them do a few other tests of fitness.
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我们还让他们做了其他 健康状况的测试。
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Based on feedback that we gave them,
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基于我们的反馈,
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some of our participants told us
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一些研究参与者告诉我们,
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they're not motivated to exercise any more.
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他们没有继续锻炼的动力了。
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They felt like they already met their fitness goals
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他们感觉已经达到了健康目标,
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and they weren't going to do anything else.
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不想继续锻炼下去了。
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These people were not motivated.
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这些人是没有动机的人。
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Other people, though, based on our feedback,
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但是另一些人基于我们的反馈,
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told us they were highly motivated to exercise.
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告诉我们他们非常想要继续锻炼。
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They had a strong goal to make it to the finish line.
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他们想要到达终点的目的性很强。
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But again, before we had them walk to the finish line,
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但是在他们开始走向终点线之前,
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we had them estimate the distance.
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我们又要求他们估计到终点的距离,
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How far away was the finish line?
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他们到终点的距离有多远呢?
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And again, like the previous study,
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再一次,就像之前的研究那样,
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we found that waist-to-hip ratio
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我们发现腰臀比
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predicted perceptions of distance.
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预示了他们对距离的估测。
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Unfit individuals saw the distance as farther,
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体型较差的人
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saw the finish line as farther away,
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相比体型较好的来说,
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than people who were in better shape.
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认为到终点的距离更远。
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Importantly, though, this only happened
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重要的是,这个现象只发生在
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for people who were not motivated
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那些没有强烈的
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to exercise.
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运动动机的人中间。
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On the other hand,
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另一方面,
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people who were highly motivated to exercise
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运动动机很强烈的人,
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saw the distance as short.
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认为到终点的距离很近。
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Even the most out of shape individuals
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甚至他们中最胖的人
07:59
saw the finish line
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看待终点线
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as just as close,
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也是一样近,
08:02
if not slightly closer,
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甚至会比
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than people who were in better shape.
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其他身材更好的人还要近一点。
08:06
So our bodies can change
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也就是说我们的身体,
08:08
how far away that finish line looks,
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可以改变终点看起来的距离,
08:11
but people who had committed to a manageable goal
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而那些有着明确的、
08:15
that they could accomplish in the near future
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可以在短时间内达到的目标的人,
08:17
and who believed that they were capable
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和那些相信自己
08:19
of meeting that goal
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有能力达到目标的人,
08:20
actually saw the exercise as easier.
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会认为这种锻炼更加轻松。
08:24
That led us to wonder,
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这使我们想到,
08:26
is there a strategy that we could use
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我们可否可以借助某种方法
08:28
and teach people that would help
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来帮助人们,
08:31
change their perceptions of the distance,
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改变他们对距离的估测,
08:33
help them make exercise look easier?
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使锻炼看起来容易一些呢?
08:35
So we turned to the vision science literature
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所以我们转向视觉科学的资料
08:38
to figure out what should we do,
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来试着找到这种方法,
08:40
and based on what we read, we came up with a strategy
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基于这些资料 我们想到了一种方法。
08:42
that we called, "Keep your eyes on the prize."
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我们称它为“聚焦奖赏”。
08:46
So this is not the slogan
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这并不是来自某张
08:47
from an inspirational poster.
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鼓励性海报的标语。
08:49
It's an actual directive
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这是一个确切的指令,
08:52
for how to look around your environment.
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告诉你如何观察四周的环境。
08:54
People that we trained in this strategy,
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根据这种方法训练的一些人,
08:57
we told them to focus their attention on the finish line,
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我们告诉他们要专注于终点线,
09:01
to avoid looking around,
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不要四处张望,
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to imagine a spotlight
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要想象一个聚光点,
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was shining on that goal,
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就在目标那里闪烁着,
09:05
and that everything around it was blurry
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聚光点周围的一切都应该是模糊的,
09:08
and perhaps difficult to see.
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无法辨认的。
09:10
We thought that this strategy
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我们认为这个方法
09:12
would help make the exercise look easier.
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可以让做运动感觉要容易一些。
09:14
We compared this group
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我们把这个组的人
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to a baseline group.
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和对照组的人比较。
09:18
To this group we said,
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我们跟这个组的人说
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just look around the environment
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随便看看四周,
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as you naturally would.
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就像你平时一样,
09:22
You will notice the finish line,
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你会注意到终点线,
09:23
but you might also notice
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但可能也会看到
09:25
the garbage can off to the right,
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终点线右边的垃圾桶,
09:27
or the people and the lamp post off to the left.
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或者是左边的人和灯柱。
09:29
We thought that people who used this strategy
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我们认为运用这个方法的人们
09:32
would see the distance as farther.
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会觉得距离更远一点。
09:34
So what did we find?
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那么我们发现了什么呢?
09:36
When we had them estimate the distance,
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当我们让他们预测距离时,
09:38
was this strategy successful
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这个方法是否能成功的
09:40
for changing their perceptual experience?
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改变他们对距离的感知呢?
09:43
Yes.
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答案是可以的。
09:44
People who kept their eyes on the prize
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那些把注意力放在奖赏上的人,
09:46
saw the finish line as 30 percent closer
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看到的终点线,比那些
09:49
than people who looked around
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放眼四周的人
09:51
as they naturally would.
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要近30%。
09:52
We thought this was great.
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我们对这个结果很满意。
09:53
We were really excited because it meant
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我们非常激动,因为这意味着
09:55
that this strategy helped make
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这个方法可以让做运动
09:57
the exercise look easier,
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看起来更简单,
09:58
but the big question was,
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但最重要的问题来了,
10:00
could this help make exercise
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它能让做运动
10:02
actually better?
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变得更有效吗?
10:04
Could it improve the quality
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它能否提高
10:05
of exercise as well?
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运动的质量呢?
10:07
So next, we told our participants,
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所以下一步,我们告诉参与者,
10:09
you are going to walk to the finish line
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你们将在负重的情况下
10:11
while wearing extra weight.
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走向终点线。
10:14
We added weights to their ankles
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我们在脚踝那里给他们加重,
10:16
that amounted to 15 percent of their body weight.
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重量是他们体重的15%,
10:18
We told them to lift their knees up high
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我们告诉他们把膝盖抬高,
10:20
and walk to the finish line quickly.
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然后快速走到终点线。
10:22
We designed this exercise in particular
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我们特意设计了这个运动,
10:25
to be moderately challenging
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让它具有一定挑战性,
10:26
but not impossible,
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但不至于无法完成。
10:28
like most exercises
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就像大多数运动一样,
10:29
that actually improve our fitness.
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可以提升我们的体型,
10:32
So the big question, then:
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那么问题就是:
10:35
Did keeping your eyes on the prize
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把焦点放在奖品上,
10:37
and narrowly focusing on the finish line
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然后把注意力放在终点线上,
10:39
change their experience of the exercise?
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会改变运动的体验吗?
10:42
It did.
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答案是肯定的。
10:44
People who kept their eyes on the prize
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那些专注于奖赏的人
10:46
told us afterward that it required
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后来告诉我们,
10:48
17 percent less exertion
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他们做运动所需的努力
10:50
for them to do this exercise
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比平时着眼四周的人,
10:51
than people who looked around naturally.
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要少了17%。
10:55
It changed their subjective experience
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这改变了他们做运动的
10:57
of the exercise.
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主观体验,
10:59
It also changed the objective nature
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同时也改变了做运动的
11:02
of their exercise.
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客观本质。
11:03
People who kept their eyes on the prize
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那些专注于奖赏的人,
11:05
actually moved 23 percent faster
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比平时着眼四周的人,
11:08
than people who looked around naturally.
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敏捷性提高了23%。
11:11
To put that in perspective,
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换个方式说,
11:13
a 23 percent increase
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23%的增长
11:15
is like trading in your 1980 Chevy Citation
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就相当于把你1980年的雪佛兰 Citation(袖珍小轿车)
11:18
for a 1980 Chevrolet Corvette.
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换成一辆同年的雪佛兰科尔维特(跑车)。
11:23
We were so excited by this,
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我们对此感到很激动。
11:26
because this meant that a strategy
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因为这意味着,
11:28
that costs nothing,
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一个无需成本的方法,
11:29
that is easy for people to use,
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简单易行,
11:31
regardless of whether they're in shape
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对那些不管是已经体型良好的人,
11:33
or struggling to get there,
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或朝那个方向努力的人来说,
11:35
had a big effect.
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都有极大的效果。
11:37
Keeping your eyes on the prize
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专注于奖赏,
11:38
made the exercise look and feel easier
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可以让做运动看起来和感觉上更容易。
11:41
even when people were working harder
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由于敏捷性更高了,所以对那些
11:44
because they were moving faster.
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更加努力的人也同样适用。
11:46
Now, I know there's more to good health
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我知道健康的概念
11:49
than walking a little bit faster,
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不仅仅是走得快一些。
11:51
but keeping your eyes on the prize
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但聚焦于奖赏
11:53
might be one additional strategy
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或许可以是一个额外的技巧,
11:55
that you can use to help promote
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你可以用它来实现
11:56
a healthy lifestyle.
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一种更健康的生活方式。
11:59
If you're not convinced yet
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如果你对此还抱有疑问,
12:01
that we all see the world through our own mind's eye,
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怀疑我们是否真的通过 思维的视角来看世界,
12:03
let me leave you with one final example.
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那么我再举最后一个例子。
12:05
Here's a photograph of a beautiful street in Stockholm, with two cars.
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这是一张斯德哥尔摩街头美景的照片, 还有两辆车。
12:09
The car in the back looks much larger
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后面那辆车看起来
12:11
than the car in the front.
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比前面的大得多。
12:12
However, in reality,
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但是,事实上
12:14
these cars are the same size,
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这两辆车都一样大。
12:16
but that's not how we see it.
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但我们看到的并不是这样。
12:19
So does this mean that
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难道这表明
12:21
our eyes have gone haywire
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我们的眼睛出毛病了,
12:23
and that our brains are a mess?
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我们的大脑也混乱了?
12:25
No, it doesn't mean that at all.
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不,完全不是这样。
12:28
It's just how our eyes work.
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这只是眼睛的工作原理。
12:30
We might see the world in a different way,
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我们可能用不同的方式看世界,
12:33
and sometimes that might not
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有时看到的和事实
12:35
line up with reality,
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并不相符。
12:37
but it doesn't mean that one of us is right
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但这并不代表我们中间 某个人就是对的,
12:39
and one of us is wrong.
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另一个就是错的。
12:41
We all see the world through our mind's eye,
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我们其实都是以思维的视角来看世界。
12:43
but we can teach ourselves to see it differently.
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但我们能主动学会 用不同的方法去看。
12:46
So I can think of days
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我能够回忆起
12:48
that have gone horribly wrong for me.
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那些曾经很糟糕的日子,
12:50
I'm fed up, I'm grumpy, I'm tired,
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我感到厌倦,暴躁,疲惫,
12:52
and I'm so behind,
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完全跟不上节奏,
12:54
and there's a big black cloud
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在我的头顶上
12:56
hanging over my head,
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还有一大片乌云笼罩,
12:57
and on days like these,
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而且在这些日子里,
12:59
it looks like everyone around me
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周围的人看起来
13:01
is down in the dumps too.
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也垂头丧气似的。
13:03
My colleague at work looks annoyed
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当我向同事请求延迟期限时,
13:05
when I ask for an extension on a deadline,
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他看起来很恼火,
13:07
and my friend looks frustrated
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当我约了朋友吃午饭 但因开会迟到时,
13:09
when I show up late for lunch because a meeting ran long,
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他看起来很不爽,
13:12
and at the end of the day,
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当结束了一天的工作,
13:14
my husband looks disappointed
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因为我想早点睡觉不想去看电影,
13:16
because I'd rather go to bed than go to the movies.
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我的丈夫看起来就很失望。
13:18
And on days like these, when everybody looks
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像这样的日子
13:21
upset and angry to me,
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每个人看起来都对我不爽。
13:23
I try to remind myself that there are other ways of seeing them.
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我试着开解自己, 或许有别的方法来看待他们,
13:26
Perhaps my colleague was confused,
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可能我的同事只是感到困惑,
13:30
perhaps my friend was concerned,
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可能我的朋友只是担心,
13:32
and perhaps my husband was feeling empathy instead.
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可能我的丈夫只是对我感到同情。
13:35
So we all see the world
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所以我们都是
13:37
through our own mind's eye,
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以思维的视角看世界。
13:39
and on some days, it might look
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在某些日子里,
13:41
like the world is a dangerous
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这个世界看起来似乎很危险,
13:43
and challenging and insurmountable place,
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充满挑衅,不可逾越,
13:45
but it doesn't have to look that way all the time.
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但未必一直是这样。
13:48
We can teach ourselves to see it differently,
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我们可以学会 用不同的方法去看待,
13:50
and when we find a way to make the world
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当我们找到一个方法,
13:53
look nicer and easier,
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让这个世界看起来更美好更轻松,
13:55
it might actually become so.
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或许它就真的会成为现实。
13:57
Thank you.
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谢谢。
13:59
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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