Stuart Brown: Play is more than fun

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翻译人员: Halei Liu 校对人员: Tony Yet
00:16
So, here we go: a flyby of play.
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那么,我们开始了:一系列玩耍。
00:20
It's got to be serious if the New York Times
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如果纽约时报在2月17号星期天的
00:24
puts a cover story of their February 17th Sunday magazine about play.
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报纸上用封面故事报道玩耍,那一定是很严肃了。
00:30
At the bottom of this, it says, "It's deeper than gender.
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在这个底部,写到:"这比性别还要深。
00:35
Seriously, but dangerously fun.
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真的,但是危险的乐趣。
00:39
And a sandbox for new ideas about evolution."
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而且一大堆关于进化的想法。“
00:44
Not bad, except if you look at that cover, what's missing?
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不错,除了你是在看封面,什么被遗漏了?
00:48
You see any adults?
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你看到任何成年人了吗?
00:51
Well, lets go back to the 15th century.
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好吧,让我们回到15世纪。
00:55
This is a courtyard in Europe,
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这是一个在欧洲的院子,
00:58
and a mixture of 124 different kinds of play.
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共有124种不同的游戏。
01:02
All ages, solo play, body play, games, taunting.
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老少皆宜,单独玩的,和身体有关的,游戏,玩耍。
01:08
And there it is. And I think this is a typical picture
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好了,这里就是,我想这是描绘院子是怎么样的
01:13
of what it was like in a courtyard then.
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一幅典型图片。
01:17
I think we may have lost something in our culture.
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我想我们在我们的文化里漏掉了什么东西。
01:21
So I'm gonna take you through
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我要跟你们讲讲,
01:24
what I think is a remarkable sequence.
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什么是一个我认为有影响的事情。
01:28
North of Churchill, Manitoba, in October and November,
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丘吉尔北部,马尼托巴省,在10月和11月,
01:31
there's no ice on Hudson Bay.
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在哈得逊湾没有冰雪。
01:33
And this polar bear that you see, this 1200-pound male,
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你看到的这只1200磅的雄性北极熊
01:36
he's wild and fairly hungry.
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是野生的而且十分饥饿。
01:40
And Norbert Rosing, a German photographer,
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诺贝特乐斯,一个德国摄影家,
01:43
is there on scene, making a series of photos of these huskies, who are tethered.
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在拍摄一系列这些被栓住的哈士奇。
01:50
And from out of stage left comes this wild, male polar bear,
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而走进这个画面的是一个雄性北极熊,
01:54
with a predatory gaze.
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带有掠食者的眼神。
01:57
Any of you who've been to Africa or had a junkyard dog come after you,
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任何去过非洲,或被一个恶狗追过的人,
02:02
there is a fixed kind of predatory gaze
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都知道当你遇上这种眼神时,
02:05
that you know you're in trouble.
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你就有麻烦了。
02:07
But on the other side of that predatory gaze
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但是就在这种掠食者的眼神旁边,
02:09
is a female husky in a play bow, wagging her tail.
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这是的一个雌性哈士奇,做出了一个玩耍的姿势,摇着它的尾巴。
02:14
And something very unusual happens.
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然后一些不平常的事情发生了。
02:18
That fixed behavior -- which is rigid and stereotyped
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一些定向的行为 -- 一些是被遥控的,注定的
02:21
and ends up with a meal -- changes.
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以晚餐完结的事情 -- 变了。
02:25
And this polar bear
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然后这个北极熊
02:27
stands over the husky,
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站在哈士奇旁边。
02:30
no claws extended, no fangs taking a look.
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没有伸爪,没有露出獠牙。
02:34
And they begin an incredible ballet.
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然后他们开始了一个惊人的芭蕾。
02:41
A play ballet.
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一个玩耍的芭蕾。
02:42
This is in nature: it overrides a carnivorous nature
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这是在自然里:一个食肉性的自然里
02:46
and what otherwise would have been a short fight to the death.
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一个会斗的你死我活的自然里。
02:50
And if you'll begin to look closely at the husky that's bearing her throat to the polar bear,
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假如你仔细观察哈士奇是这样靠近北极熊的,
02:56
and look a little more closely, they're in an altered state.
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看的再仔细一点,它们变换了状态。
03:00
They're in a state of play.
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它们是在一个玩耍的状态里。
03:03
And it's that state
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而那个状态
03:06
that allows these two creatures to explore the possible.
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就允许了这两个生物去探索的可能。
03:10
They are beginning to do something that neither would have done
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他们开始做了一些他们平常不会做的事情
03:13
without the play signals.
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拜玩耍的信号所赐。
03:17
And it is a marvelous example
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这就是一个了不起的例子
03:20
of how a differential in power
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关于存在于我们之间
03:23
can be overridden by a process of nature that's within all of us.
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一个自然力量可以被改写的例子。
03:27
Now how did I get involved in this?
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现在讲讲我是这么参与进来的?
03:30
John mentioned that I've done some work with murderers, and I have.
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乔提到我曾做过一些关于杀人犯的事情,是的,我做过。
03:33
The Texas Tower murderer opened my eyes,
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德州塔凶手开阔了我的眼界 --
03:36
in retrospect, when we studied his tragic mass murder,
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回想起来,当我们在学习他的悲剧屠杀案例中 --
03:41
to the importance of play,
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玩耍的重要性,
03:43
in that that individual, by deep study,
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在这个个体中,通过深入的学习,
03:46
was found to have severe play deprivation.
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发现他的玩耍被严重的剥夺了。
03:48
Charles Whitman was his name.
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查尔斯惠特曼是他的名字
03:50
And our committee, which consisted of a lot of hard scientists,
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在我们的委员会中,有很多科学家,
03:53
did feel at the end of that study
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确实感觉到在调查的最后
03:55
that the absence of play and a progressive suppression of developmentally normal play
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发现玩耍的缺乏和对正常发育的压抑
04:01
led him to be more vulnerable to the tragedy that he perpetrated.
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导致了他比他造成的悲剧更加易受伤害。
04:06
And that finding has stood the test of time --
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而且这个结论是通过了一段时间的考验 --
04:10
unfortunately even into more recent times, at Virginia Tech.
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十分遗憾的,甚至通过了弗吉尼亚理工大学的考验。
04:14
And other studies of populations at risk
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而且其他一些关于人口危机的学习
04:17
sensitized me to the importance of play,
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让我感受到了玩耍的重要性,
04:21
but I didn't really understand what it was.
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但是我不曾了解玩耍到底是什么。
04:23
And it was many years in taking play histories of individuals
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而且是在多年来研究了那么多历史上玩耍的例子后
04:28
before I really began to recognize that I didn't really have a full understanding of it.
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我开始了解到,我对玩耍没有一个全面的认识。
04:34
And I don't think any of us has a full understanding of it, by any means.
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而且我不认为我们所有人都对玩耍有一个全面的认识,任何层面上。
04:38
But there are ways of looking at it
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但是,我想这的确有一些看待它的方法
04:40
that I think can give you -- give us all a taxonomy, a way of thinking about it.
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让你们可以看到它的所有的类别,一种思考它的方法。
04:45
And this image is, for humans, the beginning point of play.
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这个图像是,对人类来说,是玩耍的开始。
04:50
When that mother and infant lock eyes,
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当母亲和婴儿闭上眼睛,
04:53
and the infant's old enough to have a social smile,
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而且当婴儿大的能够做出笑脸时,
04:56
what happens -- spontaneously -- is the eruption of joy on the part of the mother.
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所发生的 -- 很自然的 -- 就是母亲乐趣的爆发。
05:00
And she begins to babble and coo and smile, and so does the baby.
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然后她开始向小孩说话,逗它和微笑,小孩也做同样的事情。
05:04
If we've got them wired up with an electroencephalogram,
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如果我们对他们进行电脑图测试,
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the right brain of each of them becomes attuned,
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他们的右脑会开始适应这些,
05:13
so that the joyful emergence of this earliest of play scenes
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所以乐趣开始出现在早期的玩耍场景中
05:18
and the physiology of that is something we're beginning to get a handle on.
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而且精神上我们开始对此开始有所了解。
05:23
And I'd like you to think that every bit of more complex play
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我想让你们开始想象所有基于人类
05:27
builds on this base for us humans.
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上的每一点复杂的玩耍。
05:31
And so now I'm going to take you through sort of a way of looking at play,
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现在我要带你们去了解看待玩耍的一种方式,
05:35
but it's never just singularly one thing.
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但它从来就不仅仅是奇异一件事。
05:39
We're going to look at body play,
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我们来看看身体玩耍,
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which is a spontaneous desire to get ourselves out of gravity.
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是一个让我们摆脱重力的自然欲望。
05:48
This is a mountain goat.
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这是一只山羊。
05:50
If you're having a bad day, try this:
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如果你这一天不怎么样,试试这个:
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jump up and down, wiggle around -- you're going to feel better.
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跳上跳下,到处动一下 -- 你会感觉好很多。
05:55
And you may feel like this character,
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而且你可能会感觉像这个角色,
05:57
who is also just doing it for its own sake.
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它就是这样做的。
06:00
It doesn't have a particular purpose, and that's what's great about play.
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它没有什么特别的目的,而且那就是关于玩耍的伟大。
06:03
If its purpose is more important
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如果目的比做那个动作要重要
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than the act of doing it, it's probably not play.
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那就可能不是玩耍。
06:09
And there's a whole other type of play, which is object play.
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然后这里是完全另外一种玩耍,是关于物体的玩耍。
06:13
And this Japanese macaque has made a snowball,
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这只日本猴做好了一个雪球,
06:16
and he or she's going to roll down a hill.
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然后这里她将把雪球从山上滚下去。
06:19
And -- they don't throw it at each other, but this is a fundamental part of being playful.
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不过 -- 他们不会互相丢,但是这个基础的部分是有玩耍意思在里面的。
06:23
The human hand, in manipulation of objects,
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人类的手,是可以操控物体的,
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is the hand in search of a brain;
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是一双寻找大脑的手。
06:30
the brain is in search of a hand;
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大脑同时也在寻找手,
06:32
and play is the medium by which those two are linked in the best way.
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而玩耍是最能结合两者的媒体。
06:37
JPL we heard this morning -- JPL is an incredible place.
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JPL我们今天早上听到的 -- JPL是一个不可思议的地方。
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They have located two consultants,
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他们找到了两个顾问,
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Frank Wilson and Nate Johnson,
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弗兰克威尔森和内特乔森。
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who are -- Frank Wilson is a neurologist, Nate Johnson is a mechanic.
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弗兰克威尔逊是一个神经学家,内特约乔森是一名机械师。
06:53
He taught mechanics in a high school in Long Beach,
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他在一个长滩高中里教机械,
06:56
and found that his students were no longer able to solve problems.
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发现了他的学生再也不能解决问题了。
07:02
And he tried to figure out why. And he came to the conclusion, quite on his own,
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他尝试的去找出为什么。然后他得出一个结论,十分独特的结论,
07:05
that the students who could no longer solve problems, such as fixing cars,
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就是那些不能解决问题的学生,比如说修车,
07:09
hadn't worked with their hands.
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没有用他们的手去工作过。
07:11
Frank Wilson had written a book called "The Hand."
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弗兰克威尔逊写过一本“双手”的书。
07:14
They got together -- JPL hired them.
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他们走到一起 -- JPL雇佣了他们。
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Now JPL, NASA and Boeing,
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现在JPL,国家航天中心和波音,
07:20
before they will hire a research and development problem solver --
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当他们去雇佣一个研究院或问题解决者之前 --
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even if they're summa cum laude from Harvard or Cal Tech --
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即使他们是哈佛或加利福尼亚技术学院最好的学生 --
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if they haven't fixed cars, haven't done stuff with their hands early in life,
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如果他们没有修过车,在他们的早年没有做任何手工,
07:30
played with their hands, they can't problem-solve as well.
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和他们的手玩耍过,他们就不能解决问题。
07:33
So play is practical, and it's very important.
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所以玩耍是实用的,而且是十分重要的。
07:37
Now one of the things about play is that it is born by curiosity and exploration. (Laughter)
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现在关于玩耍的一个关键是带这好奇和探索出生。 (笑)
07:43
But it has to be safe exploration.
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但是这必须是安全的探索。
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This happens to be OK -- he's an anatomically interested little boy
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这正好可以 -- 他是一个有解剖学兴趣的小男孩
07:49
and that's his mom. Other situations wouldn't be quite so good.
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这是他的母亲,其他的一些情况不会像这么好。
07:53
But curiosity, exploration, are part of the play scene.
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但是好奇,探索,是玩耍的一部分。
07:56
If you want to belong, you need social play.
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如果你想有归宿,你需要社会性的玩耍。
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And social play is part of what we're about here today,
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社会性的玩耍就是我们今天为什么会在这的原因之一,
08:02
and is a byproduct of the play scene.
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而且这就是玩耍的副产品。
08:06
Rough and tumble play.
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粗糙和滚动的玩耍。
08:08
These lionesses, seen from a distance, looked like they were fighting.
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这些狮子,从远处看,好像在争斗。
08:11
But if you look closely, they're kind of like the polar bear and husky:
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但是如果你仔细的看,他们就像北极熊和哈士奇一样:
08:14
no claws, flat fur, soft eyes,
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没有爪子,平滑的毛发,平和的眼神,
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open mouth with no fangs, balletic movements,
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没有利齿的嘴巴,芭蕾般的动作,
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curvilinear movements -- all specific to play.
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曲线的运动 -- 都是有关玩耍的表现。
08:24
And rough-and-tumble play is a great learning medium for all of us.
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而且这项粗糙-滚动的玩耍是我们学习的伟大媒体。
08:28
Preschool kids, for example, should be allowed to dive, hit, whistle,
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学前班小孩,打个比方,应该允许去潜水,打闹,吹口哨,
08:32
scream, be chaotic, and develop through that a lot of emotional regulation
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叫喊,混乱的,会开发很多正常的情感
08:39
and a lot of the other social byproducts -- cognitive, emotional and physical --
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以及很多社会副产品 -- 认知,情感和身体 --
08:44
that come as a part of rough and tumble play.
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这就都是粗糙和滚动玩耍的一部分。
08:47
Spectator play, ritual play -- we're involved in some of that.
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观众的玩耍,和仪式上玩耍 -- 我们会参与这样一些玩耍。
08:51
Those of you who are from Boston know that this was the moment -- rare --
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那些从波士顿来的人知道有这样一个时候 -- 极少数 --
08:55
where the Red Sox won the World Series.
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红袜对赢得了冠军。
08:59
But take a look at the face and the body language of everybody
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但是看看这个有趣的照片上的脸和肢体语言
09:02
in this fuzzy picture, and you can get a sense that they're all at play.
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你就会感觉到他们都是在玩耍。
09:06
Imaginative play.
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想象的玩耍。
09:07
I love this picture because my daughter, who's now almost 40, is in this picture,
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我喜欢这张照片是因为我女儿,现在都快40了,在这个照片里,
09:12
but it reminds me of her storytelling and her imagination,
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但是这让我回想起了她的故事和她的想象;
09:16
her ability to spin yarns at this age -- preschool.
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她在这个年龄转纱的能力 -- 学前班。
09:21
A really important part of being a player
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做到一个玩耍者的重要一点是
09:24
is imaginative solo play.
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一个想象丰富的单独玩耍。
09:27
And I love this one, because it's also what we're about.
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而且我喜欢这个,因为这是我们所做的。
09:31
We all have an internal narrative that's our own inner story.
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我们都有一个内部的叙述,是我们自己内心的故事。
09:35
The unit of intelligibility of most of our brains is the story.
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对我们的大脑最清晰的单位是故事。
09:40
I'm telling you a story today about play.
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我今天来跟你们讲一个关于玩耍的故事。
09:43
Well, this bushman, I think, is talking about the fish that got away that was that long,
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好了,这个,我想讲的是那个逃跑的鱼,那可真长,
09:48
but it's a fundamental part of the play scene.
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但是这好似玩耍的一个基础部分。
09:52
So what does play do for the brain?
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所以玩耍对大脑有什么影响?
09:55
Well, a lot.
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恩,很多。
09:58
We don't know a whole lot about what it does for the human brain,
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我们不太了解它对大脑有什么影响,
10:02
because funding has not been exactly heavy for research on play.
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因为对研究玩耍上的基金不是很多。
10:09
I walked into the Carnegie asking for a grant.
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我进入卡内基要求补助金。
10:11
They'd given me a large grant when I was an academician
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当我还是学习酒后驾车的重罪的学者时,
10:14
for the study of felony drunken drivers, and I thought I had a pretty good track record,
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他们给我了一份很大的资金,我想我有一个不错的记录。
10:19
and by the time I had spent half an hour talking about play,
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就当我用半小时在谈论玩耍的时候,
10:24
it was obvious that they were not -- did not feel that play was serious.
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很明显可以感觉到,他们感觉玩耍不是很严肃。
10:28
I think that -- that's a few years back -- I think that wave is past,
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我想那是 -- 在几年前 -- 那已经过去了,
10:32
and the play wave is cresting,
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但是玩耍还是在继续,
10:34
because there is some good science.
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因为这里有一些很好的科学。
10:36
Nothing lights up the brain like play.
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没有什么比玩耍更能启迪大脑。
10:39
Three-dimensional play fires up the cerebellum,
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三维的玩耍启迪小脑,
10:42
puts a lot of impulses into the frontal lobe --
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给前额叶很多脉冲 --
10:45
the executive portion -- helps contextual memory be developed,
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行政部分-帮助上下文记忆发展,
10:49
and -- and, and, and.
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以及,等等, 等等。
10:51
So it's -- for me, its been an extremely nourishing scholarly adventure
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所以这--对我来说,是一个十分具有营养的学术冒险,
10:57
to look at the neuroscience that's associated with play, and to bring together people
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去看看神经是这样和玩耍互动的,是怎样将人联合起来
11:02
who in their individual disciplines hadn't really thought of it that way.
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那些没有共同纪律的人联合起来。
11:07
And that's part of what the National Institute for Play is all about.
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那就是国家玩耍学院所研究的一部分。
11:10
And this is one of the ways you can study play --
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而这就是我们可以这样研究玩耍的其中一个方法 --
11:12
is to get a 256-lead electroencephalogram.
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就是拿一个256制的脑电图。
11:16
I'm sorry I don't have a playful-looking subject, but it allows mobility,
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对不起,我没有一个有趣的前瞻性问题,但是这允许了移动性,
11:21
which has limited the actual study of play.
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那也就制约了对玩耍的学习。
11:23
And we've got a mother-infant play scenario
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我们在场景里也有了母婴间的玩耍
11:27
that we're hoping to complete underway at the moment.
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我们希望现在我们可以完成这个过程。
11:30
The reason I put this here is also to queue up
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我把这放在这里的原因是去整理
11:33
my thoughts about objectifying what play does.
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我对有关玩耍起了什么作用的想法。
11:37
The animal world has objectified it.
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动物的世界已经客观的反映了这个。
11:41
In the animal world, if you take rats,
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在动物的时间,如果你拿老鼠
11:44
who are hardwired to play at a certain period of their juvenile years
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一些在青少年时期玩耍的老鼠
11:50
and you suppress play -- they squeak, they wrestle,
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然后你压制玩耍 -- 他们互相挤压,他们互相搏斗,
11:53
they pin each other, that's part of their play.
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他们把对方放到,那就是他们玩耍的一部分。
11:56
If you stop that behavior on one group that you're experimenting with,
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如果你把你实验对象的一组停下来,
12:01
and you allow it in another group that you're experimenting with,
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允许你实验对象的另一组,
12:04
and then you present those rats
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然后你给这些老鼠展示
12:06
with a cat odor-saturated collar,
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带有猫气味的领子,
12:09
they're hardwired to flee and hide.
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他们本能的反应是逃窜和躲避。
12:12
Pretty smart -- they don't want to get killed by a cat.
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十分聪明 -- 它们可不想被猫抓到。
12:15
So what happens?
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所以,发生了什么?
12:17
They both hide out.
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他们都躲了起来。
12:20
The non-players never come out --
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那些非玩耍者再也不出来了 --
12:23
they die.
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他们就死了。
12:24
The players slowly explore the environment,
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那些玩耍着慢慢的探索这个环境,
12:28
and begin again to test things out.
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搞清楚了发生了什么。
12:31
That says to me, at least in rats --
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这对我来说,最起码在老鼠里 --
12:34
and I think they have the same neurotransmitters that we do
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我想他们有着跟我们一样的神经传递系统
12:37
and a similar cortical architecture --
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以及一个相似的皮质结构 --
12:39
that play may be pretty important for our survival.
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那说明了玩耍对我们的生存十分重要。
12:42
And, and, and -- there are a lot more animal studies that I could talk about.
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等等,等等 -- 这里我还可以谈上很多动物实验。
12:47
Now, this is a consequence of play deprivation. (Laughter)
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现在,这是一个把玩耍剥夺的后果。(笑)
12:51
This took a long time --
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这个花了很长时间 --
12:53
I had to get Homer down and put him through the fMRI and the SPECT
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我不得不把荷马拿下来,通过磁共振成像和断层扫描,
12:58
and multiple EEGs, but as a couch potato, his brain has shrunk.
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和和多脑电图,对他测试,但是就这样的宅男,他的脑子缩水了。
13:02
And we do know that in domestic animals
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我们都知道,在被驯化的动物里
13:05
and others, when they're play deprived,
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当他们的玩耍被剥夺时,
13:07
they don't -- and rats also -- they don't develop a brain that is normal.
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他们 -- 老鼠也一样 -- 他们不会去正常的开发大脑。
13:12
Now, the program says that the opposite of play is not work,
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现在,项目表明玩耍的对立面不是工作,
13:17
it's depression.
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是忧郁。
13:19
And I think if you think about life without play --
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我想,如果你们想象一下没有玩耍的生活 --
13:23
no humor, no flirtation, no movies,
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没有幽默,没有调戏,没有电影,
13:26
no games, no fantasy and, and, and.
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没有游戏,没有幻想 -- 等等,等等。
13:31
Try and imagine a culture or a life, adult or otherwise
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同时想想没有玩耍的文化,生命
13:36
without play.
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或成人,或者小孩。
13:38
And the thing that's so unique about our species
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我们之所以是这么独特的物种,
13:41
is that we're really designed to play through our whole lifetime.
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是因为我们就是被设计成活到老玩到老。
13:46
And we all have capacity to play signal.
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我们都有玩耍的能力。
13:49
Nobody misses that dog I took a picture of on a Carmel beach a couple of weeks ago.
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没有人会去怀念我在几个星期前卡梅尔海滩照的那只狗的照片。
13:54
What's going to follow from that behavior
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接下来会发生的行为是
13:57
is play.
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玩耍。
13:58
And you can trust it.
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而且你可以信任它。
13:59
The basis of human trust is established through play signals.
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人类信任的基础是建立在玩耍的信号上的。
14:03
And we begin to lose those signals, culturally and otherwise, as adults.
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不过我们开始丢掉这些信号了,文化上,等等,就像成年人一样。
14:08
That's a shame.
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那真丢人。
14:10
I think we've got a lot of learning to do.
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我想我们还要学习很多。
14:13
Now, Jane Goodall has here a play face along with one of her favorite chimps.
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现在,简古德尔和他最喜爱的一个猩猩做了鬼脸。
14:17
So part of the signaling system of play
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所以玩耍信号的一个部分
14:20
has to do with vocal, facial, body, gestural.
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肯定和声音,表情,身体,动作有关。
14:24
You know, you can tell -- and I think when we're getting into collective play,
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你知道,你可一知道 -- 而且我想当我们在集体玩耍是,
14:29
its really important for groups to gain a sense of safety
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在一个小组内获得安全感是十分重要的,
14:33
through their own sharing of play signals.
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通过他们对玩耍信号的动同分享。
14:37
You may not know this word,
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你也许不知道这个词。
14:39
but it should be your biological first name and last name.
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但是它应该是你生物上的姓和名。
14:44
Because neoteny means the retention of immature qualities into adulthood.
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因为幼态持续指不成熟的素质保持到成年。
14:48
And we are, by physical anthropologists,
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而且,我们是的,根据物理人类学家,
14:51
by many, many studies, the most neotenous,
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通过很多很多的学习,大部分是神经上的,
14:54
the most youthful, the most flexible, the most plastic of all creatures.
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大部分是年轻的,大部分是灵活的,所有生物的共性。
14:59
And therefore, the most playful.
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所以,是最具玩耍性的。
15:02
And this gives us a leg up on adaptability.
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这个让我们也踏入了讨论适应性的范围。
15:06
Now, there is a way of looking at play
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现在,这里有一个看待玩耍的方法
15:09
that I also want to emphasize here,
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也是我想在这强调的,
15:12
which is the play history.
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在玩耍的历史上。
15:15
Your own personal play history is unique,
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你个人的玩耍历史是独特的,
15:18
and often is not something we think about particularly.
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通常是我们想象不到的一些事。
15:22
This is a book written by a consummate player
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这是一本由十分优秀的玩耍者写的书,
15:25
by the name of Kevin Carroll.
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他叫凯文卡罗尔。
15:27
Kevin Carroll came from extremely deprived circumstances:
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他叫凯文卡罗尔是一个来自玩耍被十分压制的条件下:
15:32
alcoholic mother, absent father, inner-city Philadelphia,
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酗酒的母亲,父亲的缺席,罪恶都市费城,
15:36
black, had to take care of a younger brother.
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黑人,还必须照顾他的弟弟。
15:39
Found that when he looked at a playground
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发现在他被关起来的窗口里可以看到
15:42
out of a window into which he had been confined,
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一个公园。
15:45
he felt something different.
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他有一些不一样的感觉。
15:47
And so he followed up on it.
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所以他就去追求起来。
15:50
And his life -- the transformation of his life
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这样他的生活 -- 他生活的转变
15:53
from deprivation and what one would expect -- potentially prison or death --
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从一个被压制的人,我们也许可以判断到 -- 潜在的监狱或死亡 --
15:58
he become a linguist, a trainer for the 76ers and now is a motivational speaker.
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他成了一个语言学家,一个76人队的训练师,现在是一个煽动气氛的演讲者。
16:04
And he gives play as a transformative force
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而且他赋予了玩耍一种转变他一生
16:09
over his entire life.
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的动力
16:12
Now there's another play history that I think is a work in progress.
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现在还有另外一种玩耍历史,我想是正在进行中。
16:19
Those of you who remember Al Gore,
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你们那些记得戈尔的,
16:22
during the first term and then during his successful
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在第一的时期,然后在他第二个成功的时间里,
16:27
but unelected run for the presidency,
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但是没有竞选总统成功,
16:30
may remember him as being kind of wooden and not entirely his own person,
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也许记得他有点不自然,不像他自己。
16:35
at least in public.
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最少在公众面前是这样。
16:37
And looking at his history, which is common in the press,
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在他的历史看来,这样在压力下很正常。
16:41
it seems to me, at least -- looking at it from a shrink's point of view --
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至少对我来说,从一个心理医生的观点来看
16:47
that a lot of his life was programmed.
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他生命中很大一部分是被安排好的。
16:52
Summers were hard, hard work, in the heat of Tennessee summers.
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夏天是努力,努力工作,在田纳西的高温下。
16:58
He had the expectations of his senatorial father and Washington, D.C.
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他背负者华盛顿和议员父亲对他的期望。
17:04
And although I think he certainly had the capacity for play --
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即使我想他肯定有着玩耍的能力 --
17:07
because I do know something about that --
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因为我的确知道这样一些事情 --
17:09
he wasn't as empowered, I think, as he now is
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我想,他现在也许不是那么有权利
17:13
by paying attention to what is his own passion
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通过做他自己想做的事情
17:17
and his own inner drive,
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通过他自己的内心的渴望,
17:20
which I think has its basis in all of us in our play history.
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我想这这和我们的玩耍历史都有相同的基础。
17:25
So what I would encourage on an individual level to do,
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所以,我能从个人层次上鼓励的是,
17:28
is to explore backwards as far as you can go
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尽量往回探索
17:32
to the most clear, joyful, playful image that you have,
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到一个你有的最清晰,最快乐,最有玩耍的图像。
17:37
whether it's with a toy, on a birthday or on a vacation.
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无论这是个玩具,是生日或是渡假。
17:40
And begin to build to build from the emotion of that
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由此之上在建立情感看看
17:43
into how that connects with your life now.
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是怎样和你现在生活所联系起来。
17:46
And you'll find, you may change jobs --
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然后你会发现,你也许会换工作 --
17:49
which has happened to a number people when I've had them do this --
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也当我让人们去做这个东西是最明显的后果
17:52
in order to be more empowered through their play.
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为此能通过玩耍来变的更强大。
17:55
Or you'll be able to enrich your life by prioritizing it
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或者你会通过优先处理他和在意它
17:59
and paying attention to it.
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从而丰富你的生活
18:01
Most of us work with groups, and I put this up because
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我的绝大多数是小组工作,我这样讲出来是因为
18:04
the d.school, the design school at Stanford,
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斯坦福世界大学大学,
18:07
thanks to David Kelley and a lot of others
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谢谢大卫凯利和其他人
18:10
who have been visionary about its establishment,
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那些有眼光建立这个的人
18:13
has allowed a group of us to get together
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允许我们这组人聚在一起
18:15
and create a course called "From Play to Innovation."
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从而开办了一个课程叫做“从玩耍到创新”
18:19
And you'll see this course is to investigate
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在这个课程里,你会看到对
18:22
the human state of play, which is kind of like the polar bear-husky state
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人类玩耍状态的参与,就像是北极熊对哈士奇的状态
18:26
and its importance to creative thinking:
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以及它对创新思维的重要性。
18:28
"to explore play behavior, its development and its biological basis;
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去探索玩耍的行为,玩耍的发展和其生物学上的基础。
18:31
to apply those principles, through design thinking,
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去通过设计的思维来使用这些原则,
18:34
to promote innovation in the corporate world;
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去在整个世界推动创新。
18:36
and the students will work with real-world partners
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所有的学生都会和真实世界的伙伴合作
18:39
on design projects with widespread application."
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在宽广应用的设计项目上。
18:42
This is our maiden voyage in this.
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这是我们的首航。
18:44
We're about two and a half, three months into it, and it's really been fun.
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我们开始了有2个半到3个月了,而且这真的是很有趣。
18:48
There is our star pupil, this labrador,
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这是我们的得意门生,这个拉布拉多,
18:51
who taught a lot of us what a state of play is,
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它教给了我们很多关于玩耍是什么一个状态,
18:55
and an extremely aged and decrepit professor in charge there.
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这是一个十分十分年老的负责教师。
18:59
And Brendan Boyle, Rich Crandall -- and on the far right is, I think, a person who
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和布兰登博伊勒,理查克莱登 -- 在最右边的是斯图尔特汤姆森--
19:04
will be in cahoots with George Smoot for a Nobel Prize -- Stuart Thompson,
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我想他会和乔治苏木特一起的诺贝尔奖,
19:09
in neuroscience.
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在神经学上。
19:10
So we've had Brendan, who's from IDEO,
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我们已经见多布兰登了,来自IDEO,
19:12
and the rest of us sitting aside and watching these students
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我们其他人就坐在一旁,看这些学生
19:16
as they put play principles into practice in the classroom.
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在教室里把这些玩耍的要领使用到行动上。
19:22
And one of their projects was to
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他们其中的一个项目是
19:26
see what makes meetings boring,
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看是什么导致会议很无聊。
19:29
and to try and do something about it.
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然后去做些什么来改变这个。
19:32
So what will follow is a student-made film
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所以,接下来会有一个关于这个的
19:36
about just that.
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学生短片。
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Narrator: Flow is the mental state of apparition
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旁白:流利是幻影的精神状态
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in which the person is fully immersed in what he or she is doing.
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是那个人完全投入到他所做的事情上。
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Characterized by a feeling of energized focus,
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特点是充满活力的焦点的感觉,
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full involvement and success in the process of the activity.
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全身投入和在这个活动中的成功感。
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An important key insight that we learned about meetings
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一个重要的关键见解,我们对会议的教训是
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is that people pack them in one after another,
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人们一个一个的传下去,
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disruptive to the day.
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直到一天结束。
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Attendees at meetings don't know when they'll get back to the task
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会议者这会议上不知道他们什么时候可以回到
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that they left at their desk.
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他们离开的工作上。
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But it doesn't have to be that way.
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但是不一定是非要这样。
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(Music)
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(音乐)
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Some sage and repeatedly furry monks
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一些来自被称作设计学院的地方,
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at this place called the d.school
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的圣人和毛皮僧侣
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designed a meeting that you can literally step out of when it's over.
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设计了一个会议,当会议结束了你就可以把它脱下。
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Take the meeting off, and have peace of mind that you can come back to me.
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把会议放下,然后你可以回到自己安静的空间里。
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Because when you need it again,
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因为当你再需要的时候,
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the meeting is literally hanging in your closet.
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会议就挂在你的衣柜里。
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The Wearable Meeting.
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可穿着的会议。
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Because when you put it on, you immediately get everything you need
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因为当你穿上它时,你立刻会得到所有
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to have a fun and productive and useful meeting.
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好玩的和有用的有效率的会议的一切。
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But when you take it off --
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但是一旦你脱掉他...
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that's when the real action happens.
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那你就要开始行动。
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(Music)
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(音乐)
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(笑)(掌声)
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Stuart Brown: So I would encourage you all
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斯图尔特布朗:所以我要鼓励你们所有人
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to engage
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去参与
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not in the work-play differential --
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不仅仅是在你工作需要的时候--
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where you set aside time to play --
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不仅仅是在你玩耍的时候 --
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but where your life becomes infused
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也是当你的的生活被每分每秒
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minute by minute, hour by hour,
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被注入
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with body,
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身体,
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object,
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物品,
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social, fantasy, transformational kinds of play.
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社会,幻想,和各种变革的玩耍。
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And I think you'll have a better and more empowered life.
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我想你会有一个更好的更有力的生活。
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Thank You.
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谢谢。
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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John Hockenberry: So it sounds to me like what you're saying is that
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约翰胡可巴里:我的理解是你要说的是
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there may be some temptation on the part of people to look at your work
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可能有一部分人诱惑的
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and go --
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看着你的工作
22:43
I think I've heard this, in my kind of pop psychological understanding of play,
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我想我听到过这个,在我对玩耍的流行精神学上的理解是,
22:48
that somehow,
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那就是,
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the way animals and humans deal with play,
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动物和人类对玩耍的,
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is that it's some sort of rehearsal for adult activity.
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是成人活动的一种排练。
22:56
Your work seems to suggest that that is powerfully wrong.
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你的工作似乎说明了这是十分错误的。
22:59
SB: Yeah, I don't think that's accurate,
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SB:对,我想那是不准确的,
23:02
and I think probably because animals have taught us that.
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我想那大概是因为动物已经教了我们这个。
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If you stop a cat from playing --
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如果你不让一只猫玩 --
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which you can do, and we've all seen how cats bat around stuff --
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你可以这样做,我们整天看到猫动来动去 --
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they're just as good predators as they would be if they hadn't played.
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他们就还是像出色捕猎者一样,如果它们不曾玩耍。
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And if you imagine a kid
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但如果你想象下一个小孩
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pretending to be King Kong,
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假装是金刚,
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or a race car driver, or a fireman,
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或是赛车手,或是消防员,
23:26
they don't all become race car drivers or firemen, you know.
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他们不会都成为赛车手或消防员。
23:30
So there's a disconnect between preparation for the future --
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你知道,所以准备和未来有一个断开的地方 --
23:35
which is what most people are comfortable in thinking about play as --
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那也就是大多数人对玩耍很舒服的地方 --
23:38
and thinking of it as a separate biological entity.
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就像一个单独的生物实体。
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And this is where my chasing animals for four, five years
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而这就是我开始追寻这些动物,四到五年
23:47
really changed my perspective from a clinician to what I am now,
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它真的改变了我的观点,从临床医生到现在的我,
23:52
which is that play has a biological place,
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那就是玩耍有一个生物性的地方,
23:56
just like sleep and dreams do.
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就像是睡觉做梦一样。
23:59
And if you look at sleep and dreams biologically,
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如果你从生物的角度上去看睡觉做梦,
24:04
animals sleep and dream,
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动物也睡觉做梦,
24:06
and they rehearse and they do some other things that help memory
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他们排练,他们做一些其他的事情,帮助记忆
24:09
and that are a very important part of sleep and dreams.
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而且那时睡觉和做梦的十分重要的部分。
24:12
The next step of evolution in mammals and
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哺乳动物和那些有多余的神经元
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creatures with divinely superfluous neurons
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的动物的下一个进化
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will be to play.
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就是玩耍。
24:22
And the fact that the polar bear and husky or magpie and a bear
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而事实是北极熊和哈士奇或喜鹊和一只熊
24:25
or you and I and our dogs can crossover and have that experience
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或你和我和我的狗可以交流拥有和其他
24:31
sets play aside as something separate.
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事物一样的玩耍的感觉。
24:34
And its hugely important in learning and crafting the brain.
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而且这学习和训练这样对大脑来说十分重要。
24:38
So it's not just something you do in your spare time.
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所以这不是你就每天空闲时候做的事情。
24:41
JH: How do you keep -- and I know you're part of the scientific research community,
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JH:你怎样才能保持 -- 我知道你是科学研究机构的一部分,
24:44
and you have to justify your existence with grants and proposals like everyone else --
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你也和其他人一样要协调赠款和建议--
24:49
how do you prevent --
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你怎样去防止 --
24:51
and some of the data that you've produced, the good science that you're talking about you've produced, is hot to handle.
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而且你做出的一些数据,这些你谈论的和你做出的好的科学是十分难以处理的
24:57
How do you prevent either the media's interpretation of your work
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你这样防止媒体打断你的工作
25:01
or the scientific community's interpretation of the implications of your work,
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或科学机构打断你工作的影响力,
25:07
kind of like the Mozart metaphor,
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有点像莫扎特的比喻
25:10
where, "Oh, MRIs show
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就像 “哦,MRIs 展示了”
25:13
that play enhances your intelligence.
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玩耍增强了你的智力。
25:16
Well, let's round these kids up, put them in pens
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好的,让我们把小孩放起来,把笔给他们拿开
25:18
and make them play for months at a time; they'll all be geniuses and go to Harvard."
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让他们每次玩上一个星期,他们会变成天才然后去上哈弗。“
25:22
How do you prevent people from taking that sort of action
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你这样防止人们在你研究的数据上
25:25
on the data that you're developing?
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去这样谈论这种行为?
25:27
SB: Well, I think the only way I know to do it
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SB:恩,我想我只知道能这样做,
25:30
is to have accumulated the advisers that I have
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那就是累计我得到的建议:
25:33
who go from practitioners --
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那些从医生 --
25:35
who can establish through improvisational play or clowning or whatever --
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那些可以建立计息玩耍或小丑或其他--
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a state of play.
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一种玩耍的状态。
25:41
So people know that it's there.
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所以人们知道那那在那。
25:43
And then you get an fMRI specialist, and you get Frank Wilson,
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然后你得到一个fMRI的专家,你得到弗兰克威尔森,
25:47
and you get other kinds of hard scientists, including neuroendocrinologists.
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你也得到其他一些十分难懂的科学家,包括精神学家。
25:52
And you get them into a group together focused on play,
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然后你把他们形成一组关注玩耍。
25:58
and it's pretty hard not to take it seriously.
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这样要不严肃对待还很难
26:02
Unfortunately, that hasn't been done sufficiently
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遗憾的是,国家科学基金会,国家心理健康学院
26:05
for the National Science Foundation, National Institute of Mental Health
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或者是任何这样看待它的人 -- 认真的
26:08
or anybody else to really look at it in this way seriously.
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对此做的还够充分。
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I mean you don't hear about anything that's like cancer or heart disease
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我的意思是,你不会听到癌症或心脏病
26:17
associated with play.
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和玩耍在一起合作。
26:19
And yet I see it as something that's just as basic for survival -- long term --
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但是我仍然是把它看作是生存的基础 -- 长期的 --
26:24
as learning some of the basic things about public health.
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也是学习公众健康的基础。
26:28
JH: Stuart Brown, thank you very much.
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JH:斯图尔特布朗,十分感谢你。
26:30
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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