Chris McKnett: The investment logic for sustainability

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Prevodilac: Đorđe Sevkić Lektor: Mile Živković
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The world is changing
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Svet se menja
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in some really profound ways,
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na veoma značajan način,
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and I worry that investors
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i brine me što investitori
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aren't paying enough attention
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ne obraćaju dovoljno pažnje
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to some of the biggest drivers of change,
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na neke od najvećih pokretača promena,
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especially when it comes to sustainability.
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pogotovo na polju održivosti.
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And by sustainability, I mean the really juicy things,
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Pod tim mislim na stvarno sočne stvari
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like environmental and social issues
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kao društvena i ekološka pitanja
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and corporate governance.
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i upravljanje korporacijama.
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I think it's reckless to ignore these things,
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Mislim da je nemarno ignorisati te stvari
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because doing so can jeopardize
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jer to može da ugrozi
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future long-term returns.
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buduće dugoročne zarade.
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And here's something that may surprise you:
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Ovo će vas možda iznenaditi:
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the balance of power to really influence sustainability
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ravnoteža moći koja utiče na održivost
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rests with institutional investors,
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zavisi od institucionalnih investitora,
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the large investors like pension funds,
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velikih investitora, kao što su penzioni fondovi,
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foundations and endowments.
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fondacije i zadužbine.
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I believe that sustainable investing
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Verujem da je održivo investiranje
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is less complicated than you think,
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jednostavnije nego što mislite,
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better-performing than you believe,
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efikasnije nego što verujete,
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and more important than we can imagine.
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i važnije nego što možemo zamisliti.
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Let me remind you what we already know.
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Da vas podsetim šta već znamo.
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We have a population that's both growing and aging;
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Imamo populaciju koja se umnožava i stari;
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we have seven billion souls today
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imamo sedam milijardi duša danas
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heading to 10 billion
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koja raste na 10 milijardi
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at the end of the century;
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pri kraju veka;
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we consume natural resources
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trošimo prirodne resurse
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faster than they can be replenished;
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brže nego što se mogu obnoviti;
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and the emissions that are mainly responsible
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i emisije koje su pretežno odgovorne
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for climate change just keep increasing.
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za klimatske promene nastavljaju s rastom.
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Now clearly, these are environmental and social issues,
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Ovo su, očito, društvena i ekološka pitanja,
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but that's not all.
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ali to nije sve.
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They're economic issues,
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To su i ekonomska pitanja,
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and that makes them relevant
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i to ih čini relevantnim
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to risk and return.
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za rizik i povrat novca.
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And they are really complex
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To su kompleksna pitanja
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and they can seem really far off,
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koja izgledaju zaista različita,
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that the temptation may be to do this:
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pa iskušenje može biti da se uradi ovo:
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bury our heads in the sand and not think about it.
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zakopamo glave u pesak i ne mislimo na to.
01:52
Resist this, if you can. Don't do this at home.
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Ako možete, oduprite se ovome.
Ne radite ovo kod kuće. (Smeh)
01:55
(Laughter)
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01:57
But it makes me wonder
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To me tera da razmislim
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if the investment rules of today
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da li su današnja pravila ulaganja
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are fit for purpose tomorrow.
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svrsishodna za budućnost.
02:03
We know that investors,
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Znamo da investitori,
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when they look at a company and decide whether to invest,
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kada procenjuju potencijalnu investiciju,
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they look at financial data,
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gledaju finansijske podatke,
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metrics like sales growth, cash flow, market share,
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kao rast prodaje, tok novca, tržišni udeo,
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valuation -- you know, the really sexy stuff.
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procene - znate, veoma seksi stvari.
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And these things are fundamental, of course,
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Ove stvari su naravno fundamentalne,
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but they're not enough.
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ali nisu dovoljne.
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Investors should also look at performance metrics
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Ulagači bi trebalo da obrate pažnju
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in what we call ESG:
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i na podatke učinka koje zovemo EDU:
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environment, social and governance.
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Ekološki, Društveni i Upravni.
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Environment includes energy consumption,
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Ekološki uključuje potrošnju energije,
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water availability, waste and pollution,
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dostupnost vode,
otpad i zagađenje,
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just making efficient uses of resources.
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što efikasniju upotrebu resursa.
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Social includes human capital,
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Društveno uključuje ljudski kapital,
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things like employee engagement
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kao što su angažovanje zaposlenih
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and innovation capacity,
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i sposobnost inovacije,
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as well as supply chain management
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kao i upravljanje lancem nabavke
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and labor rights and human rights.
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i radnička i ljudska prava.
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And governance relates to the oversight
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Upravni se vezuje za nadzor kompanija
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of companies by their boards and investors.
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od strane njihovih odbora i ulagača.
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See, I told you this is the really juicy stuff.
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Vidite, rekao sam vam da su ovo
veoma sočne stvari.
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But ESG is the measure of sustainability,
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Ali EDU je mera održivosti.
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and sustainable investing incorporates ESG factors
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A održivo ulaganje uključuje EDU faktore
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with financial factors into the investment process.
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u investicioni proces.
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It means limiting future risk
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To znači limitiranje budućeg rizika
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by minimizing harm to people and planet,
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minimiziranjem štete za ljude i planetu,
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and it means providing capital to users
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i znači pružanje kapitala onima
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who deploy it towards productive
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koji ga primenjuju u produktivnim
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and sustainable outcomes.
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i održivim ishodima.
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So if sustainability matters financially today,
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Ako održivost znači finansijski danas,
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and all signs indicate more tomorrow,
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a svi indikatori kažu još više sutra,
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is the private sector paying attention?
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da li privatni sektor obraća pažnju?
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Well, the really cool thing is that most CEOs are.
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Pa stvarno kul stvar je da
većina generalnih direktora to i radi.
Počeli su da gledaju na održivost
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They started to see sustainability
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not just as important but crucial to business success.
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ne kao važnu, već kao ključnu
za poslovni uspeh.
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About 80 percent of global CEOs
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Oko 80% svetskih generalnih direktora
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see sustainability as the root to growth in innovation
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vidi održivost kao osnovu rasta u inovaciji
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and leading to competitive advantage
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i put ka konkurentnoj prednosti
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in their industries.
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u njihovim industrijama.
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But 93 percent see ESG as the future,
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Ali 93% vidi EDU kao budućnost,
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or as important to the future of their business.
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ili kao važno za budućnost njihovog posla.
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So the views of CEOs are clear.
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Znači, stav generalnih direktora je jasan.
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There's tremendous opportunity in sustainability.
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Postoji ogromna šansa u održivosti.
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So how are companies actually leveraging ESG
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Kako kompanije usklađuju EDU
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to drive hard business results?
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za postizanje poslovnih rezultata?
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One example is near and dear to our hearts.
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Jedan primer nam je posebno drag.
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In 2012, State Street migrated 54 applications
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2012, "Stejt Strit" je preneo 54 aplikacije
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to the cloud environment,
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na klaud okruženje,
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and we retired another 85.
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i "penzionisali" smo još 85.
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We virtualized our operating system environments,
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Virtualizovali smo operativne sisteme,
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and we completed numerous automation projects.
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i završili mnoge projekte automatizacije.
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Now these initiatives create a more mobile workplace,
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Ove inicijative stvaraju mobilnije radno okruženje,
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and they reduce our real estate footprint,
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i umanjuju otisak naših nekretnina,
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and they yield savings of 23 million dollars
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i donose uštedu od 23 miliona dolara
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in operating costs annually,
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u operativnim troškovima godišnje,
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and avoid the emissions
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i izbegavaju emisiju
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of a 100,000 metric tons of carbon.
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od 100.000 metričkih tona CO2.
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That's the equivalent of taking 21,000 cars
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To je isto kao uklanjanje 21.000 kola
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off the road.
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sa puta.
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So awesome, right?
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Strava, zar ne?
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Another example is Pentair.
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Još jedan primer je Pentair.
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Pentair is a U.S. industrial conglomerate,
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Pentair is industrijski konglomerat u SAD,
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and about a decade ago,
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i pre deset godina,
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they sold their core power tools business
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prodali su osnovni posao električnih alata
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and reinvested those proceeds in a water business.
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i uložili novac u posao sa vodom.
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That's a really big bet. Why did they do that?
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To je ogromna kocka. Zašto su to uradili?
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Well, with apologies to the Home Improvement fans,
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Pa, uz izvinjenje fanovima filozofije "Uradi Sam",
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there's more growth in water than in power tools,
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rast posla sa vodom je veći od električnih alata,
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and this company has their sights set
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a ova kompanija se namerila
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on what they call "the new New World."
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na ono što zovu "novi Novi Svet".
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That's four billion middle class people
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To je 4 milijarde ljudi srednje klase
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demanding food, energy and water.
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koji traže hranu, energiju i vodu.
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Now, you may be asking yourself,
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Sada se možete upitati,
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are these just isolated cases?
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da li su ovo samo izolovani slučajevi?
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I mean, come on, really?
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Mislim, stvarno?
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Do companies that take sustainability into account
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Da li kompanije koje održivost shvataju ozbiljno
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really do well financially?
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stvarno dobro prolaze finansijski?
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The answer that may surprise you is yes.
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Iznenađujući odgovor je: da.
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The data shows that stocks with better ESG performance
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Podaci kažu da akcije sa boljim EDU-om
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perform just as well as others.
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donose jednako dobro kao i ostale.
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In blue, we see the MSCI World.
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Plavo pokazuje MSCI World.
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It's an index of large companies
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To je indeks velikih kompanija
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from developed markets across the world.
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sa razvijenih tržišta širom sveta.
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And in gold, we see a subset of companies
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Zlatno pokazuje podskup kompanija
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rated as having the best ESG performance.
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rangiranih kao najbolje sa EDU učinkom.
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Over three plus years, no performance tradeoff.
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Više od 3 godine, bez kompromisa u učinku.
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So that's okay, right? We want more. I want more.
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To je dobro, zar ne? Želimo više. Ja želim više.
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In some cases, there may be outperformance
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U nekim slučajevima postoji
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from ESG.
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slabiji učinak EDU-a.
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In blue, we see the performance
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Plavo pokazuje učinak
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of the 500 largest global companies,
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500 najvećih svetskih kompanija,
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and in gold, we see a subset of companies
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zlatno pokazuje podskup kompanija
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with best practice in climate change strategy
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sa najboljim praksama u ekologiji
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and risk management.
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i upravljanju rizicima.
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Now over almost eight years,
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Tokom skoro 8 godina,
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they've outperformed by about two thirds.
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oni imaju bolji učinak za oko dve trećine.
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So yes, this is correlation. It's not causation.
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Da, postoji neuzročna povezanost.
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But it does illustrate that environmental leadership
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Ovo pokazuje da je ekološko liderstvo
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is compatible with good returns.
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kompatibilno sa dobrim zaradama.
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So if the returns are the same or better
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Ako su zarade iste ili bolje
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and the planet benefits, wouldn't this be the norm?
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i planeta ima koristi, zar to ne bi trebalo biti pravilo?
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Are investors, particularly institutional investors,
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Jesu li investitori,
pogotovo oni institucionalni, angažovani?
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engaged?
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07:04
Well, some are,
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Pa, neki jesu,
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and a few are really at the vanguard.
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a neki su stvarno pioniri.
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Hesta.
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Hesta.
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Hesta is a retirement fund for health
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Hesta je penzioni fond za zdravstvene
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and community services employees in Australia,
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i društvene radnike u Australiji,
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with assets of 22 billion [dollars].
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sa imovinom od 22 milijarde dolara.
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They believe that ESG has the potential
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Oni veruju da EDU ima potencijal
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to impact risks and returns,
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da utiče na rizike i zarade,
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so incorporating it into the investment process
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pa uključivanje EDU-a u proces ulaganja
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is core to their duty
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je osnova njihove obaveze da delaju
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to act in the best interest of fund members,
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u najboljem interesu svojih članova,
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core to their duty.
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osnova njihove obaveze.
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You gotta love the Aussies, right?
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Moraš voleti Australijance, zar ne?
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CalPERS is another example.
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CalPERS je drugi primer.
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CalPERS is the pension fund
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CalPERS je penzioni fond
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for public employees in California,
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za radnike javnih firmi u Kaliforniji,
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and with assets of 244 billion [dollars],
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sa imovinom od 244 milijarde dolara,
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they are the second largest in the U.S.
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drugi najveći u SAD
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and the sixth largest in the world.
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i šesti najveći u svetu.
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Now, they're moving toward 100 percent
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Oni napreduju prema stopostotnom
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sustainable investment
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održivom investiranju
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by systematically integrated ESG
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sistematski integrišući EDU
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across the entire fund.
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kroz ceo fond.
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Why? They believe it's critical
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Zašto? Oni veruju da je to ključno
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to superior long-term returns, full stop.
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za superiorne dugoročne zarade, tačka.
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In their own words, "long-term value creation
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Njihovim rečima: "stvaranje dugoročne vrednosti
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requires the effective management
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traži efikasno upravljanje
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of three forms of capital:
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tri vrste kapitala:
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financial, human, and physical.
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finansijskog, ljudskog, i fizičkog.
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This is why we are concerned with ESG."
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Zato mi brinemo o EDU."
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Now, I do speak to a lot of investors
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Deo mog posla
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as part of my job,
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je da govorim pred mnogim ulagačima
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and not all of them see it this way.
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i nemaju svi ovakve stavove.
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Often I hear, "We are required to maximize returns,
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Često čujem: "Obavezni smo da uvećamo zarade,
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so we don't do that here,"
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tako da mi to ovde ne radimo",
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or, "We don't want to use the portfolio
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ili "nećemo da koristimo portfelj
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to make policy statements."
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za političke iskaze."
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The one that just really gets under my skin is,
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Ono što me stvarno nervira, je:
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"If you want to do something about that,
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"Ako hoćeš da nešto uradiš po tom pitanju,
08:42
just make money, give the profits to charities."
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stvori novac i daj ga u dobrotvorne svrhe."
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It's eyes rolling, eyes rolling.
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Sledi prevrtanje očima.
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I mean, let me clarify something right here.
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Mislim, da pojasnim nešto ovde.
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Companies and investors are not
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Kompanije i investitori nisu
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singularly responsible for the fate of the planet.
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jedini odgovorni za sudbinu planete.
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They don't have indefinite social obligations,
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Oni nemaju beskonačne društvene obaveze,
09:01
and prudent investing and finance theory
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i mudro ulaganje i finansijska teorija
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aren't subordinate to sustainability.
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nisu podređene održivosti.
09:05
They're compatible.
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One su kompatibilne.
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So I'm not talking about tradeoffs here.
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Ne pričam o kompromisu ovde.
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But institutional investors
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Institucionalni investitori
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are the x-factor in sustainability.
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su x-faktor održivosti.
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Why do they hold the key?
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Zašto su oni ključni?
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The answer, quite simply, is, they have the money.
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Odgovor je jednostavan, oni imaju novac.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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A lot of it.
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Mnogo novca.
09:28
I mean, a really lot of it.
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Mislim, stvarno mnogo novca.
09:29
The global stock market is worth 55 trillion dollars.
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Svetsko tržište akcija vredi 55 biliona dolara
09:32
The global bond market, 78 trillion.
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Svetsko tržište obveznica, 78 biliona.
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That's 133 trillion combined.
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Ukupno, 133 biliona.
09:40
That's eight and a half times the GDP of the U.S.
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To je 8,5 puta više od BDP SAD-a.
09:43
That's the world's largest economy.
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To je najveća svetska ekonomija.
09:45
That's some serious freaking firepower.
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To je ozbiljno velika vatrena moć.
09:49
So we can reconsider
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Možemo preispitati
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some of these pressing challenges,
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neke od ovih hitnih izazova,
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like fresh water, clean air,
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kao što su sveža voda, čist vazduh,
09:56
feeding 10 billion mouths,
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hranjenje 10 milijardi usta,
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if institutional investors
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ako institucionalni investitori
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integrated ESG into investment.
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integrišu EDU u investiranje.
10:02
What if they used that firepower
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Šta ako bi oni upotrebili tu vatrenu moć
10:04
to allocate more of their capital
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da dodele više svog kapitala
10:06
to companies working the hardest
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kompanijama koje najviše rade
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at solving these challenges
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na rešavanju tih izazova
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or at least not exacerbating them?
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ili ih makar ne pogoršavaju?
10:12
What if we work and save and invest,
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Šta ako mi radimo i štedimo i ulažemo,
10:17
only to find that the world we retire into
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samo da bi se penzionisali u jedan
10:20
is more stressed and less secure than it is now?
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stresniji i nesigurniji svet nego što je sad?
10:24
What if there isn't enough clean air and fresh water?
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Šta ako ne bude dovoljno
čistog vazduha i vode?
10:29
Now a fair question might be,
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Pošteno bi bilo zapitati se
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what if all this sustainability risk stuff
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šta ako je cela ta priča o održivosti
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is exaggerated, overstated, it's not urgent,
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preterana, prenaglašena, ishitrena,
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something for virtuous consumers
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nešto za moralne potrošače
10:40
or lifestyle choice?
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ili izbor načina života?
10:42
Well, President John F. Kennedy said something
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Pa, Džon F. Kenedi je rekao nešto
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about this that is just spot on:
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tačno o tome:
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"There are risks and costs to a program of action,
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"Postoje rizik i cena programa akcije,
10:52
but they are far less than the long-range risks
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ali su oni mnogo manji nego
10:54
and costs of comfortable inaction."
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dugoročni rizici i cena ležernog mirovanja."
10:59
I can appreciate that there is estimation risk in this,
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Razumem da ovde postoji procena rizika,
11:02
but since this is based on widespread scientific consensus,
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Ali pošto je ona bazirana na
rasprostranjenom naučnom koncenzusu,
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the odds that it's not completely wrong
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šanse da on nije skroz pogrešan
11:09
are better than the odds
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su veće nego one
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that our house will burn down
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da će nam kuća izgoreti
11:12
or we'll get in a car accident.
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ili da ćemo doživeti automobilski udes.
11:14
Well, maybe not if you live in Boston. (Laughter)
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Pa, možda ne ako živite u Bostonu. (Smeh)
11:18
But my point is that we buy insurance
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Moja poenta je da kupujemo osiguranje
11:21
to protect ourselves financially
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da sebe zaštitimo finansijski
11:23
in case those things happen, right?
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u tim slučajevima, zar ne?
11:26
So by investing sustainably
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Održivim ulaganjem
11:28
we're doing two things.
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radimo dve stvari.
11:30
We're creating insurance,
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Stvaramo osiguranje, umanjujući rizik
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reducing the risk to our planet and to our economy,
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za našu planetu i našu ekonomiju,
11:36
and at the same time, in the short term,
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a u isto vreme, kratkoročno,
11:38
we're not sacrificing performance.
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ne žrtvujemo učinak.
11:41
[Man in comic: "What if it's a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?"]
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[Čovek u stripu: "Šta ako je to velika prevara i stvaramo bolji svet nizašta?"]
11:46
Good, you like it. I like it too.
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Dobro, sviđa vam se. I meni, takođe.
11:48
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:49
I like it because it pokes fun
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Sviđa mi se jer udara na šalu
11:51
at both sides of the climate change issue.
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sa obe strane ekoloških pitanja.
11:54
I bet you can't guess which side I'm on.
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Sigurno ne znate na kojoj sam ja strani.
11:57
But what I really like about it
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Ovde najviše volim što me podseća
11:59
is that it reminds me of something Mark Twain said,
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na nešto što je Mark Tven jednom rekao,
12:02
which is, "Plan for the future,
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a to je: "Planiraj za budućnost,
12:04
because that's where you're going to spend
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jer to je ono što ćeš trošiti
12:06
the rest of your life."
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do kraja svog života."
12:08
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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