Rory Sutherland: Perspective is everything

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Translator: Timothy Covell Reviewer: Morton Bast
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What you have here
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Ovo ovde
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is an electronic cigarette.
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je elektronska cigareta.
To je meni, od pre godinu, dve kad je izmišljeno,
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It's something that, since it was invented a year or two ago,
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pružilo neverovatno zadovoljstvo.
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has given me untold happiness.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Mali deo tog zadovoljstva je nikotin,
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A little bit of it, I think, is the nicotine,
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but there's something much bigger than that;
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ali tu ima nešto mnogo važnije od nikotina.
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which is, ever since, in the UK, they banned smoking in public places,
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Od momenta kad su u Velikoj Britaniji zabranili pušenje na javnim mestima
nisam više uživao u koktel zabavama.
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I've never enjoyed a drinks party ever again.
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00:41
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And the reason, I only worked out just the other day,
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Zaključio sam zašto pre neki dan,
a to je da kad odeš na koktel zabavu,
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which is: when you go to a drinks party and you stand up
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stojiš i držiš čašu crvenog vina,
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and hold a glass of red wine and you talk endlessly to people,
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vodiš beskrajne razgovore,
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you don't actually want to spend all the time talking.
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ne želiš da pričaš svo vreme.
To je zaista zamorno.
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It's really, really tiring.
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00:55
Sometimes you just want to stand there silently, alone with your thoughts.
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Ponekad želiš da samo mirno stojiš sam sa svojim mislima.
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Sometimes you just want to stand in the corner and stare out of the window.
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Ponekad želiš samo da stojiš u ćošku i gledaš kroz prozor.
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Now the problem is, when you can't smoke,
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Problem je, što kad ne možeš da pušiš,
ako stojiš sam i gledaš kroz prozor,
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if you stand and stare out of the window on your own,
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01:11
you're an antisocial, friendless idiot.
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onda ispadaš nedruštven, usamljeni idiot.
(Smeh)
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(Laughter)
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01:16
If you stand and stare out of the window on your own with a cigarette,
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Ako stojiš sam i gledaš kroz prozor sa cigaretom,
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you're a fucking philosopher.
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ti si jebeni filozof.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
(Aplauz)
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(Applause)
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01:30
So the power of reframing things
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Snaga promene načina posmatranja
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cannot be overstated.
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ne može biti prenaglašena.
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What we have is exactly the same thing, the same activity,
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Ovo što imamo je potpuno ista stvar, ista aktivnost,
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but one of them makes you feel great
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jedna čini da se osetiš velikim,
a druga, sa malom izmenom stava
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and the other one, with just a small change of posture,
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01:46
makes you feel terrible.
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čini da se osećaš grozno.
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And I think one of the problems with classical economics is,
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Mislim da je jedan od problema klasične ekonomije
njena potpuna preokupiranost realnošću.
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it's absolutely preoccupied with reality.
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01:54
And reality isn't a particularly good guide to human happiness.
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Realnost nije posebno dobar vodič do ljudske sreće.
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Why, for example, are pensioners much happier
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Zbog čega su, na primer,
penzioneri mnogo srećniji
od mladih koji su nezaposleni?
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than the young unemployed?
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Both of them, after all, are in exactly the same stage of life.
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Obe kategorije su u istoj životnoj fazi.
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You both have too much time on your hands and not much money.
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Obe imaju previše vremena i ne mnogo novca.
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But pensioners are reportedly very, very happy,
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Ali penzioneri su izgleda jako srećni,
dok su nezaposleni izuzetno nesrećni i depresivni.
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whereas the unemployed are extraordinarily unhappy and depressed.
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The reason, I think, is that the pensioners believe
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Mislim da penzioneri misle da su izabrani da budu penzioneri,
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they've chosen to be pensioners,
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whereas the young unemployed feel it's been thrust upon them.
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dok mladi nezaposleni
misle da im je to nametnuto.
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In England, the upper-middle classes have actually solved this problem perfectly,
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Viša srednja klasa u Engleskoj je izvrsno rešila ovaj problem,
jer su rebrendirali nezaposlenost.
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because they've re-branded unemployment.
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02:36
If you're an upper-middle-class English person,
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Ako ste Englez iz više srednje klase,
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you call unemployment "a year off."
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nazivate nezaposlenost "slobodna godina".
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And that's because having a son who's unemployed in Manchester
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To je zato što je sramota imati
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is really quite embarrassing.
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nezaposlenog sina u Mančesteru,
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But having a son who's unemployed in Thailand
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dok je imati nezaposlenog sina na Tajlandu
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is really viewed as quite an accomplishment.
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u stvari priznanje.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Moć da se stvari rebrendiraju -
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But actually, the power to re-brand things --
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to understand that our experiences, costs, things
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da shvatimo da u stvari naša iskustva, cene, stvari
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don't actually much depend on what they really are,
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ne zavise mnogo od toga šta su zaista,
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but on how we view them --
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već od toga kako ih vidimo -
zaista mislim da ne može biti precenjena.
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I genuinely think can't be overstated.
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03:10
There's an experiment I think Daniel Pink refers to,
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Danijel Pink pominje jedan eksperiment
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where you put two dogs in a box
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sa dva psa u kutiji
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and the box has an electric floor.
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koja ima električni pod.
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Every now and then, an electric shock is applied to the floor,
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Povremeno se propusti struja kroz pod
i to ih boli.
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which pains the dogs.
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The only difference is one of the dogs has a small button in its half of the box.
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Jedina razlika je da jedan pas ima malo dugme na svojoj polovini kutije.
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And when it nuzzles the button, the electric shock stops.
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Kad pritisne dugme, šok prestaje.
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The other dog doesn't have the button.
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Drugi pas nema dugme.
On je izložen potpuno istoj boli kao i pas u prvoj kutiji,
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It's exposed to exactly the same level of pain as the dog in the first box,
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but it has no control over the circumstances.
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ali on ne može da kontroliše situaciju.
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Generally, the first dog can be relatively content.
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Prvi pas može biti relativno zadovoljan.
Drugi pas pada u potpunu depresiju.
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The second dog lapses into complete depression.
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03:54
The circumstances of our lives may actually matter less to our happiness
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Okolnosti u našim životima možda manje doprinose našoj sreći,
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than the sense of control we feel over our lives.
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od osećaja kontrole koji imamo nad svojim životima.
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It's an interesting question.
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To je jedno zanimljivo pitanje.
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We ask the question -- the whole debate in the Western world
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Postavljamo pitanje - debata u zapadnom svetu
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is about the level of taxation.
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je pitanje o visini poreza.
Ja mislim da bi trebalo diskutovati o drugoj stvari,
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But I think there's another debate to be asked,
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which is the level of control we have over our tax money,
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koji je nivo kontrole koji imamo nad našim novcem za porez.
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that what costs us 10 pounds in one context can be a curse;
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Nešto čija je cena 10 funti u jednoj priči može biti prokletstvo.
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what costs us 10 pounds in a different context, we may actually welcome.
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Ono što nas košta 10 funti u drugom kontekstu, možda je dobro.
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You know, pay 20,000 pounds in tax toward health,
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Plati 20 000 funti za porez u zdravstvu
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and you're merely feeling a mug.
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i osećaš se jadno.
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Pay 20,000 pounds to endow a hospital ward,
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Plati 20 000 funti kao donaciju bolničkom odeljenju
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and you're called a philanthropist.
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i već si filantrop.
Verovatno sam u pogrešnoj državi
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I'm probably in the wrong country to talk about willingness to pay tax.
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da bih govorio o spremnosti za plaćanjem poreza.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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So I'll give you one in return: how you frame things really matters.
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Daću vam jedan primer. Zaista je važno kako se stvari posmatraju.
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Do you call it "The bailout of Greece"?
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Da li se kaže spasavanje Grčke
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Or "The bailout of a load of stupid banks which lent to Greece"?
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ili spasavanje glupih banaka koje su pozajmile novac Grčkoj?
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(Laughter)
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Jer to je u stvari ista stvar.
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Because they are actually the same thing.
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Kako nazivate te stvari,
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What you call them actually affects how you react to them,
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utiče na vašu reakciju na njih, intuitivno i moralno.
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viscerally and morally.
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Po meni je, ako ćemo iskreno, psihološka vrednost sjajna.
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I think psychological value is great, to be absolutely honest.
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One of my great friends, a professor called Nick Chater,
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Moj veliki prijatelj, profesor Nik Čater,
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who's the Professor of Decision Sciences in London,
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profesor nauka o odlukama u Londonu,
veruje da bi trebalo da provodimo mnogo manje vremena
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believes we should spend far less time looking into humanity's hidden depths,
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u proučavanju skrivenih dubina čovečanstva,
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and spend much more time exploring the hidden shallows.
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a mnogo više u proučavanju skrivenih plićaka.
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I think that's true, actually.
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Mislim da je to tačno.
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I think impressions have an insane effect on what we think and what we do.
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Utisci imaju neverovatan uticaj
na to šta mislimo i radimo.
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But what we don't have is a really good model of human psychology --
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Ono što nemamo je zaista dobar model ljudske psihologije.
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at least pre-Kahneman, perhaps,
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Do pre Kanemana,
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we didn't have a really good model of human psychology
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nismo imali stvarno dobar model ljudske psihologije
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to put alongside models of engineering, of neoclassical economics.
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paralelan sa inženjerstvom, neoklasičnom ekonomijom.
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So people who believed in psychological solutions didn't have a model.
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Tako da oni koji su verovali u psihološka rešenja, nisu imali model.
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We didn't have a framework.
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Nismo imali obrazac.
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This is what Warren Buffett's business partner Charlie Munger calls
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Ovo je prema Čarliju Mangeru, poslovnom partneru Vorena Bafeta,
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"a latticework on which to hang your ideas."
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"mreža za oslanjanje ideja."
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Engineers, economists, classical economists
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Inženjeri, ekonomisti, klasični ekonomisti,
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all had a very, very robust existing latticework
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svi su imali vrlo čvrstu mrežu,
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on which practically every idea could be hung.
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na koju se mogla okačiti svaka ideja.
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We merely have a collection of random individual insights
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Mi jedva da imamo neku kolekciju raznih individualnih saznanja
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without an overall model.
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bez nekog opšteg modela.
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And what that means is that, in looking at solutions,
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To znači da smo gledajući kakva su rešenja,
verovatno previše važnosti davali
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we've probably given too much priority
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to what I call technical engineering solutions, Newtonian solutions,
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inženjersko-tehničkim rešenjima, njutnovskim rešenjima,
a ni izbliza dovoljno psihološkim.
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and not nearly enough to the psychological ones.
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06:22
You know my example of the Eurostar:
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Znate za moj primer Eurostara.
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six million pounds spent
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Šest miliona funti je potrošeno da bi se skratilo vreme putovanja
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to reduce the journey time between Paris and London
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između Pariza i Londona za oko 40 min.
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by about 40 minutes.
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For 0.01 percent of this money, you could have put wi-fi on the trains,
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Sa 0,01 posto ovog novca mogao se uvesti bežični internet u vozovima,
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which wouldn't have reduced the duration of the journey,
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što ne bi skratilo vreme putovanja,
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but would have improved its enjoyment and its usefulness far more.
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ali bi značajno popravilo uživanje i korist.
Sa možda 10 posto novca,
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For maybe 10 percent of the money,
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you could have paid all of the world's top male and female supermodels
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mogli su se platiti svi najbolji svetski muški i ženski supermodeli
koji bi išli kroz voz i nudili besplatan Šato Petrus svim putnicima.
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to walk up and down the train handing out free Château Pétrus
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to all the passengers.
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06:52
(Laughter)
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You'd still have five million pounds in change,
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Još bi preostalo pet milijardi funti
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and people would ask for the trains to be slowed down.
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i ljudi bi tražili da vozovi idu sporije.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Why were we not given the chance to solve that problem psychologically?
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Zbog čega nam nije omogućeno
da rešimo ovaj problem psihološki?
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I think it's because there's an imbalance,
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Mislim da je to zbog toga što postoji disbalans, asimetrija
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an asymmetry in the way we treat creative, emotionally driven psychological ideas
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u načinu na koji tretiramo kreativne, emotivno podstaknute psihološke ideje
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versus the way we treat rational, numerical, spreadsheet-driven ideas.
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spram načina na koji tretiramo racionalne, numeričke, tabelarne ideje.
Ako ste kreativna osoba,
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If you're a creative person, I think, quite rightly,
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morate da dajete ideje na odobrenje
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you have to share all your ideas for approval
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with people much more rational than you.
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mnogo racionalnijim ljudima od sebe.
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You have to go in and have a cost-benefit analysis,
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Treba da se prijavite i da imate analizu troškova,
studiju izvodljivosti, detaljna istraživanja povrata ulaganja.
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a feasibility study, an ROI study and so forth.
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07:33
And I think that's probably right.
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Mislim da je to verovatno ispravno.
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But this does not apply the other way around.
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Ali ne važi u suprotnom smeru.
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People who have an existing framework --
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Ljudi koji imaju postojeći
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an economic framework, an engineering framework --
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ekonomski, inženjerski okvir,
osećaju da je logika u stvari odgovor.
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feel that, actually, logic is its own answer.
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07:46
What they don't say is, "Well, the numbers all seem to add up,
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Oni ne kažu: "Izgleda da se svi brojevi slažu,
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but before I present this idea, I'll show it to some really crazy people
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ali pre nego što predstavim ovu ideju, pokazaću je nekim zaista otkačenim ljudima
07:53
to see if they can come up with something better."
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da vidim da li će oni smisliti nešto bolje."
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And so we -- artificially, I think -- prioritize
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Tako dajemo, po meni pogrešno, veću važnost
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what I'd call mechanistic ideas over psychological ideas.
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mehaničkim nad psihološkim idejama.
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An example of a great psychological idea:
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Jedan primer odlične psihološke ideje:
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the single best improvement in passenger satisfaction
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jedinstveno poboljšanje zadovoljstva putnika u londonskoj podzemnoj železnici
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on the London Underground,
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per pound spent,
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nije došlo jer je povećan broj vozova i njihova učestalost,
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came when they didn't add any extra trains,
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nor change the frequency of the trains;
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they put dot matrix display boards on the platforms --
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već zato što su postavili matrični displej na platformama.
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because the nature of a wait is not just dependent on its numerical quality,
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Priroda čekanja je takva
da ne zavisi samo od svoje brojčane vrednosti, trajanja
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its duration,
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već od nivoa nesigurnosti koji doživljavamo dok čekamo.
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but on the level of uncertainty you experience during that wait.
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08:27
Waiting seven minutes for a train with a countdown clock
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Čekati voz sedam minuta sa satom koji odbrojava
je manje frustrirajuće i iritirajuće
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is less frustrating and irritating
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than waiting four minutes, knuckle biting, going,
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nego čekanje četiri minuta sa nerviranjem
u razmišljanju: "Kad će ovaj prokleti voz stići?"
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"When's this train going to damn well arrive?"
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08:38
Here's a beautiful example of a psychological solution
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Evo lep primer psihološkog rešenja sprovedenog u Koreji.
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deployed in Korea.
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08:41
Red traffic lights have a countdown delay.
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Crvena svetla na semaforu imaju odbrojavanje.
Eksperimentalno je potvrđeno da je smanjena stopa nesreća.
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It's proven to reduce the accident rate in experiments.
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08:47
Why?
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Zašto? Zato što su bes, nestrpljenje i iritacija
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Because road rage, impatience and general irritation are massively reduced
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drastično smanjeni kad zaista vidite vreme čekanja.
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when you can actually see the time you have to wait.
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08:55
In China, not really understanding the principle behind this,
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U Kini su, ne razumevajući ovaj princip
08:58
they applied the same principle to green traffic lights --
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ovo su primenili i na zelena svetla na semaforima.
09:01
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:05
which isn't a great idea.
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To nije dobra ideja.
Na 200 metara ste, shvatite da imate pet sekundi da prođete, dodate gas.
09:07
You're 200 yards away, you realize you've got five seconds to go,
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09:10
you floor it.
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09:11
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:14
The Koreans, very assiduously, did test both.
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Koreanci su vrlo temeljno, testirali oba.
Stopa nesreća se smanjuje kad se ovo primeni na crvena svetla,
09:17
The accident rate goes down when you apply this to red traffic lights;
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a povećava kod primene na zelenim svetlima.
09:20
it goes up when you apply it to green traffic lights.
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To je sve što tražim u odlukama ljudi
09:23
This is all I'm asking for, really, in human decision making,
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uzimanje u obzir sve tri stvari tehnologija, psihologija, ekonomija.
09:26
is the consideration of these three things.
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09:28
I'm not asking for the complete primacy of one over the other.
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Ne tražim potpuni primat jedne stvari nad drugom.
09:31
I'm merely saying that when you solve problems,
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Jednostavno kažem da kad rešavate problem,
09:33
you should look at all three of these equally,
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sve tri stvari treba da jednako posmatrate,
treba da što dublje tražite
09:36
and you should seek as far as possible
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09:38
to find solutions which sit in the sweet spot in the middle.
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rešenja koja su u sredini.
Zapravo, ako pogledate uspešan biznis
09:41
If you actually look at a great business,
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skoro uvek su sve tri stvari u igri.
09:43
you'll nearly always see all of these three things coming into play.
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09:46
Really successful businesses --
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Zaista uspešni biznisi -
09:48
Google is a great, great technological success,
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Google je fantastičan tehnološki uspeh,
09:51
but it's also based on a very good psychological insight:
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ali je baziran na odličnom psihološkom uvidu:
ljudi veruju da je nešto što radi samo jednu stvar,
09:55
people believe something that only does one thing
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09:57
is better at that thing than something that does that thing and something else.
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bolje od nečeg drugog što radi još nešto.
10:02
It's an innate thing called "goal dilution."
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To je urođeno i zove se razblaživanje ciljeva.
10:04
Ayelet Fishbach has written a paper about this.
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Ejlet Fišbah je napisala članak o tome.
10:07
Everybody else at the time of Google, more or less,
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Svi drugi su u vremenu Googla manje-više,
pokušavali da budu portal.
10:10
was trying to be a portal.
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10:11
Yes, there's a search function, but you also have weather,
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Da, tu je opcija pretrage,
takođe imate vreme, sportske rezultate, malo vesti.
10:14
sports scores, bits of news.
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10:17
Google understood that if you're just a search engine,
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Google je razumeo da ako si samo pretraživač,
10:19
people assume you're a very, very good search engine.
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ljudi podrazumevaju da si onda veoma dobar pretraživač.
10:22
All of you know this, actually, from when you go in to buy a television,
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Svi znamo da,
kad idemo da kupimo televizor.
Na samom kraju niza televizora sa ravnim ekranom
10:26
and in the shabbier end of the row of flat-screen TVs,
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mogu se videti one neomiljene stvari koje zovu kombinovani televizori
10:29
you can see, are these rather despised things
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10:31
called "combined TV and DVD players."
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sa DVD plejerom.
Mi nemamo nikakvo saznanje o kvalitetu tih stvari,
10:35
And we have no knowledge whatsoever of the quality of those things,
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ali pri pogledu na kombinovani televizor sa DVD-ejm:
10:38
but we look at a combined TV and DVD player and we go, "Uck.
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10:41
It's probably a bit of a crap telly and a bit rubbish as a DVD player."
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"Uh. To je verovatno đubre i od televizora i DVD plejera."
10:45
So we walk out of the shops with one of each.
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Tako da izađemo iz prodavnice sa oba.
10:48
Google is as much a psychological success as it is a technological one.
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Google je podjednako i psihološki i tehnološki uspeh.
Predlažem da koristimo psihologiju za rešavanje problema
10:54
I propose that we can use psychology to solve problems
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10:56
that we didn't even realize were problems at all.
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za koje nismo ni znali da postoje.
Ovo je moj predlog da se ljudi nateraju da završe kuru antibiotika.
10:59
This is my suggestion for getting people to finish their course of antibiotics.
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Nemojte im dati 24 bele pilule.
11:03
Don't give them 24 white pills;
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11:04
give them 18 white pills and six blue ones
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Dajte im 18 belih i 6 plavih
11:07
and tell them to take the white pills first,
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i recite im da prvo troše bele, a zatim plave.
11:09
and then take the blue ones.
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To se zove seckanje.
11:12
It's called "chunking."
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11:13
The likelihood that people will get to the end is much greater
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Mnogo je veća verovatnoća da će ljudi stići do cilja
11:16
when there is a milestone somewhere in the middle.
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ako negde u sredini postoji značajan događaj.
Po meni je velika greška u ekonomiji
11:20
One of the great mistakes, I think, of economics
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ta što nema razumevanja da nešto,
11:22
is it fails to understand that what something is --
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11:24
whether it's retirement, unemployment, cost --
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kao što su odlazak u penziju, nezaposlenost, trošak,
11:28
is a function, not only of its amount, but also its meaning.
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ne zavisi samo od količine, već i od značenja.
11:33
This is a toll crossing in Britain.
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Ovo je naplatna rampa u Britaniji.
Vrlo često se stvaraju redovi na rampama.
11:36
Quite often queues happen at the tolls.
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11:39
Sometimes you get very, very severe queues.
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Nekad su to jako dugi redovi.
11:41
You could apply the same principle, actually,
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Isti princip se može primeniti ako želite,
11:43
to the security lanes in airports.
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na sigurnosne trake na aerodromima.
11:45
What would happen if you could actually pay twice as much money
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Šta bi bilo ako biste mogli da platite duplo da biste prešli preko mosta,
11:48
to cross the bridge,
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ali kroz ekspres traku?
11:49
but go through a lane that's an express lane?
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11:51
It's not an unreasonable thing to do;
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To nije nerazumno. To je ekonomski isplativo.
11:53
it's an economically efficient thing to do.
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Vreme nekim ljudima znači više.
11:55
Time means more to some people than others.
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11:57
If you're waiting trying to get to a job interview,
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Ako čekate da biste otišli na razgovor za posao,
11:59
you'd patently pay a couple of pounds more to go through the fast lane.
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sigurno biste platili da prođete kroz brzu traku.
12:04
If you're on the way to visit your mother-in-law,
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Ako idete da posetite taštu,
12:06
you'd probably prefer --
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verovatno biste pre ostali levo.
12:07
(Laughter)
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12:08
you'd probably prefer to stay on the left.
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12:11
The only problem is if you introduce this economically efficient solution,
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Jedini problem je ako izložite ovo ekonomski isplativo rešenje,
ljudi ga ne vole.
12:15
people hate it ...
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12:16
because they think you're deliberately creating delays at the bridge
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Oni misle da namerno stvaraš zastoj na mostu
da bi povećao svoj prihod:
12:20
in order to maximize your revenue,
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12:21
and, "Why on earth should I pay to subsidize your incompetence?"
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"Zaboga, zašto da subvencionišem tvoju nekompetentnost?"
12:25
On the other hand, change the frame slightly
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Ali ako malo preoblikuješ stvari,
12:27
and create charitable yield management,
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napraviš menadžment za upravljanje dobrovoljnim davanjima,
12:30
so the extra money you get goes not to the bridge company,
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tako da dodatni novac ne ide kompaniji čiji je most, već u dobrotvorne svrhe,
12:33
it goes to charity ...
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12:35
and the mental willingness to pay completely changes.
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spremnost da se plati se potpuno menja.
12:39
You have a relatively economically efficient solution,
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Imaš ekonomski isplativo rešenje,
koje ima javno odobravanje,
12:42
but one that actually meets with public approval
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12:44
and even a small degree of affection,
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čak malu dozu naklonosti,
12:46
rather than being seen as bastardy.
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umesto bezobrazluka.
12:49
So where economists make the fundamental mistake
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Ono gde ekonomisti prave osnovnu grešku
12:52
is they think that money is money.
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je što misle da je novac novac.
12:55
Actually, my pain experienced in paying five pounds
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Moj bol kad plaćam pet funti
12:59
is not just proportionate to the amount,
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nije samo proporcionalan sumi,
13:01
but where I think that money is going.
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već i mestu gde ja mislim da taj novac ide.
13:04
And I think understanding that could revolutionize tax policy.
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Mislim da razumevanje ovoga može izazvati revoluciju u poreskoj politici.
13:07
It could revolutionize the public services.
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Može promeniti javne usluge.
13:09
It could actually change things quite significantly.
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Može značajno promeniti stvari.
13:12
[Ludwig Von Mises is my hero.]
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Ovde je čovek kog svi treba da proučimo.
13:13
Here's a guy you all need to study.
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On je đak austrijske škole ekonomije
13:15
He's an Austrian School economist
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koji bio je aktivan u prvoj polovini dvadesetog veka u Beču.
13:17
who was first active in the first half of the 20th century in Vienna.
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13:21
What was interesting about the Austrian School
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Austrijska škola je zanimljiva
13:23
is they actually grew up alongside Freud.
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jer je rasla paralelno sa Frojdovom školom.
13:26
And so they're predominantly interested in psychology.
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Uglavnom ih je interesovala psihologija.
13:29
They believed that there was a discipline called praxeology,
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Verovali su u disciplinu nazvanu prakseologija,
13:34
which is a prior discipline to the study of economics.
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koja je bila disciplina pre ekonomskih nauka.
13:36
Praxeology is the study of human choice, action and decision-making.
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Prakseologija je nauka o ljudskom izboru, delovanju i procesu odlučivanja.
13:41
I think they're right.
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Mislim da su u pravu.
13:43
I think the danger we have in today's world
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Mislim da je opasnost u današnjem svetu
13:45
is we have the study of economics
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to što studija ekonomije
smatra sebe prethodnikom studije ljudske psihologije.
13:47
considers itself to be a prior discipline to the study of human psychology.
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13:51
But as Charlie Munger says, "If economics isn't behavioral,
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Čarli Manger kaže: "Ako ekonomija nije bihevioralna,
onda dođavola ne znam šta jeste."
13:54
I don't know what the hell is."
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Zanimljivo je da Fon Mizes veruje da je ekonomija samo deo psihologije.
13:57
Von Mises, interestingly, believes economics is just a subset of psychology.
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14:02
I think he just refers to economics
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On za ekonomiju kaže da je
14:04
as "the study of human praxeology under conditions of scarcity."
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"nauka o ljudskoj prakseologiji pod uslovima oskudice."
Među mnogim stvarima Fon Mizes
14:09
But Von Mises, among many other things,
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14:12
I think uses an analogy which is probably the best justification and explanation
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uzima analogiju koja je najbolje opravdanje i objašnjenje
14:16
for the value of marketing, the value of perceived value
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za marketinšku vrednost, vrednost doživljene vrednosti
i činjenicu da bi trebalo da je tretiramo kao potpuno jednaku
14:21
and the fact that we should treat it as being absolutely equivalent
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14:24
to any other kind of value.
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sa bilo kojom drugom vrednošću.
14:26
We tend to, all of us, even those of us who work in marketing,
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Svi mi nastojimo - čak i oni koji rade u prodaji -
da vidimo vrednost na dva načina.
14:29
think of value in two ways:
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14:30
the real value, which is when you make something in a factory
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Postoji stvarna vrednost,
koja nastaje u fabrici ili kad pružite uslugu,
14:33
or provide a service,
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14:34
and then there's a dubious value,
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i postoji takoreći diskutabilna vrednost,
14:36
which you create by changing the way people look at things.
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koju napravite promenom načina na koji ljudi gledaju na stvari.
14:39
Von Mises completely rejected this distinction.
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Fon Mizes potpuno odbacuje ovu razliku.
14:41
And he used this following analogy:
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On koristi sledeću analogiju.
On se oslanja na čudne ekonomiste tzv. francuske fiziokrate,
14:43
he referred to strange economists called the French physiocrats,
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14:48
who believed that the only true value was what you extracted from the land.
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koji su verovali da je jedina prava vrednost ona koja se dobije iz zemlje.
14:52
So if you're a shepherd or a quarryman or a farmer,
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Tako da ako ste pastir, rudar ili zemljoradnik,
14:54
you created true value.
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vi stvarate pravu vrednost.
14:56
If however, you bought some wool from the shepherd
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Ako ste kupili vunu od pastira
14:59
and charged a premium for converting it into a hat,
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i naplatili zaradu pravljenjem šešira,
15:02
you weren't actually creating value,
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vi u stvari ne pravite novu vrednost,
15:04
you were exploiting the shepherd.
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vi eksploatišete pastira.
15:06
Now, Von Mises said that modern economists make exactly the same mistake
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Fon Mizes kaže da savremeni ekonomisti prave upravo istu grešku
u odnosu na reklame i marketing.
15:10
with regard to advertising and marketing.
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15:12
He says if you run a restaurant,
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On kaže da ako vodiš restoran,
15:14
there is no healthy distinction to be made
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nema jasne razlike
između vrednosti koju stvaraš kuvajući
15:17
between the value you create by cooking the food
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15:19
and the value you create by sweeping the floor.
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i vrednosti koju stvaraš brišući pod.
15:22
One of them creates, perhaps, the primary product --
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Jedna od njih možda stvara glavni proizvod -
15:24
the thing we think we're paying for --
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ono šta plaćamo -
druga stvara kontekst
15:26
the other one creates a context within which we can enjoy
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u kom možemo da uživamo u proizvodu.
15:29
and appreciate that product.
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Ideja da je jedna od tih stvari važnija
15:31
And the idea that one of them should have priority over the other
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je suštinski pogrešna.
15:34
is fundamentally wrong.
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15:36
Try this quick thought experiment:
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Pokušajte ovaj misaoni eksperiment.
15:37
imagine a restaurant that serves Michelin-starred food,
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Zamislite restoran koji služi hranu sa Mišelin zvezdom,
15:40
but where the restaurant smells of sewage
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a u stvari restoran smrdi na kanalizaciju
15:43
and there's human feces on the floor.
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i ljudski izmet je na podu.
15:45
(Laughter)
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15:46
The best thing you can do there to create value
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Da biste napravili vrednost,
nije najbolje još popravljati hranu,
15:49
is not actually to improve the food still further,
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15:52
it's to get rid of the smell and clean up the floor.
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već rešiti se smrada i očistiti pod.
Veoma je važno shvatiti ovo.
15:57
And it's vital we understand this.
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Ako to deluje kao čudna, nejasna stvar,
16:00
If that seems like a sort of strange, abstruse thing --
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u Velikoj Britaniji, pošta je imala 98 posto uspešnosti
16:02
in the UK, the post office had a 98 percent success rate
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16:06
at delivering first-class mail the next day.
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u dostavljanju pošte prve klase sutradan.
Odlučeno je da to nije dovoljno dobro
16:09
They decided this wasn't good enough,
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i hteli su da podignu ovaj nivo na 99 posto.
16:11
and they wanted to get it up to 99.
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16:14
The effort to do that almost broke the organization.
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Da bi ovo uradili skoro su uništili organizaciju.
16:18
If, at the same time, you'd gone and asked people,
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Da ste u isto vreme pitali ljude:
"Koji procenat pošte prve klase stiže sutradan?"
16:21
"What percentage of first-class mail arrives the next day?"
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prosečan odgovor bi bio 50 do 60 posto.
16:24
the average answer, or the modal answer, would have been "50 to 60 percent."
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16:28
Now, if your perception is much worse than your reality,
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Ako je vaša percepcija mnogo gora od realnosti,
16:31
what on earth are you doing trying to change the reality?
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zbog čega zaboga pokušavate da promenite realnost?
To je isto kao popravljanje hrane u restoranu koji smrdi.
16:34
That's like trying to improve the food in a restaurant that stinks.
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Ono što treba da uradite
16:39
What you need to do is, first of all, tell people
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je da prvo kažete ljudima
da 98 posto pošte prve klase stiže sutradan.
16:42
that 98 percent of first-class mail gets there the next day.
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16:46
That's pretty good.
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To je dosta dobro.
16:48
I would argue, in Britain, there's a much better frame of reference,
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Reći ću vam, u Britaniji postoji mnogo bolji okvir,
a to je reći ljudima
16:51
which is to tell people that more first-class mail arrives the next day
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da više pošte prve klase stiže sutradan
u Britaniji nego u Nemačkoj.
16:55
in the UK than in Germany, because generally, in Britain,
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Ako hoćete da nas u Britaniji napravite srećnim zbog nečega,
16:57
if you want to make us happy about something,
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samo recite da to radimo bolje od Nemaca.
17:00
just tell us we do it better than the Germans.
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(Smeh)
17:02
(Laughter)
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17:04
(Applause)
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17:06
Choose your frame of reference and the perceived value,
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Izaberite svoj referentni okvir i percepciju
17:09
and therefore, the actual value is completely transformed.
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i samim tim stvarna vrednost je potpuno transformisana.
U vezi sa Nemcima, mora se reći
17:13
It has to be said of the Germans
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that the Germans and the French are doing a brilliant job
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da Nemci i Francuzi rade briljantan posao
17:17
of creating a united Europe.
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u stvaranju ujedinjene Evrope.
17:18
The only thing they didn't expect is they're uniting Europe
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Jedina stvar koju oni ne očekuju je da ujedinjuju Evropu
17:21
through a shared mild hatred of the French and Germans.
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kroz blagu mržnju Francuza i Nemaca.
17:24
But I'm British; that's the way we like it.
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Ali ja sam Britanac, mi to tako volimo.
17:26
(Laughter)
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Primećujete da je u svakom slučaju naša percepija loša.
17:29
What you'll also notice is that, in any case,
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our perception is leaky.
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17:32
We can't tell the difference between the quality of the food
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Ne možemo navesti razliku između kvaliteta hrane
i sredine u kojoj je konzumiramo.
17:35
and the environment in which we consume it.
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Svi ste videli ovaj fenomen
17:37
All of you will have seen this phenomenon
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ako ste oprali ili servisirali auto.
17:39
if you have your car washed or valeted.
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17:41
When you drive away, your car feels as if it drives better.
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Posle odlaska, osećate kao da vaš auto ide bolje.
17:44
(Laughter)
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Razlog je,
17:46
And the reason for this --
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osim ako su mi u servisu misteriozno promenili ulje
17:47
unless my car valet mysteriously is changing the oil
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ili uradili nešto što nisam platio ili ne znam,
17:50
and performing work which I'm not paying him for and I'm unaware of --
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to što percepcija u svakom slučaju nije dobra.
17:53
is because perception is, in any case, leaky.
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17:55
Analgesics that are branded are more effective at reducing pain
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Brendirani analgetici su mnogo bolji u efektima smanjivanja bola
17:59
than analgesics that are not branded.
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od analgetika koji nisu brenidrani.
18:01
I don't just mean through reported pain reduction --
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Ne mislim samo na prijavljeno smanjenje bola,
već na izmereno smanjenje bola.
18:04
actual measured pain reduction.
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18:05
And so perception actually is leaky in any case.
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Tako da je percepcija u stvari slaba u svakom slučaju.
18:11
So if you do something that's perceptually bad in one respect,
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Ako uradite nešto što je pogrešno iz jedne perspektive,
možete da oštetite drugu.
18:14
you can damage the other.
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18:15
Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
18:16
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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