Jane Poynter: Life in Biosphere 2

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Prevodilac: Predrag Djordjevic Lektor: Ivana Korom
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I have had the distinct pleasure
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Imala sam to jedinstveno zadovoljstvo
00:15
of living inside two biospheres.
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da sam živela u dve biosfere.
00:18
Of course we all here in this room live in Biosphere 1.
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Naravno, svi mi u ovoj sobi živimo u Biosferi 1.
00:22
I've also lived in Biosphere 2.
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Ja sam takođe živela u Biosferi 2.
00:26
And the wonderful thing about that is that I get to compare biospheres.
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Divna stvar u vezi sa ovim jeste što mogu da poredim te dve biosfere.
00:30
And hopefully from that I get to learn something.
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I nadam se da iz toga mogu nešto i da naučim.
00:33
So what did I learn? Well,
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Šta sam to naučila? Pa,
00:35
here I am inside Biosphere 2, making a pizza.
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evo me u Biosferi 2, pravim picu.
00:38
So I am harvesting the wheat, in order to make the dough.
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Dakle, žanjem pšenicu da bih napravila testo.
00:41
And then of course I have to milk the goats
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I naravno, moram da pomuzem koze,
00:43
and feed the goats in order to make the cheese.
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i nahranim te koze da bih napravila sir.
00:46
It took me four months in Biosphere 2 to make a pizza.
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Trebalo mi je četiri meseca da u Biosferi 2 napravim picu.
00:48
Here in Biosphere 1, well it takes me about two minutes,
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Ovde, u Biosferi 1, treba mi dva minuta.
00:51
because I pick up the phone and I call and say,
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Zato što podignem slušalicu, pozovem i kažem:
00:53
"Hey, can you deliver the pizza?"
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Hej, da li dostavljate picu?
00:55
So Biosphere 2
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Dakle, Biosfera 2
00:58
was essentially a three-acre,
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koja se prostirala na 1.2 hektara, je u suštini bila
01:00
entirely sealed, miniature world
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potpuno zapečaćeni, minijaturni svet
01:02
that I lived in for two years and 20 minutes.
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u kome sam živela dve godine i 20 minuta.
01:05
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:08
Over the top it was sealed with steel and glass,
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Na vrhu je bila zapečaćena čelikom i staklom.
01:10
underneath it was sealed with a pan of steel --
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Ispod je bila zapečaćena čeličnom pločom.
01:13
essentially entirely sealed.
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U suštini, bila je potpuno zapečaćena.
01:15
So we had our own miniature rainforest,
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Dakle, imali smo našu ličnu minijaturnu prašumu,
01:17
a private beach with a coral reef.
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privatnu plažu sa koralnim grebenom.
01:19
We had a savanna, a marsh, a desert.
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Imali smo savanu, močvaru, pustinju.
01:22
We had our own half-acre farm that we had to grow everything.
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Imali smo i našu ličnu farmu na kojoj smo uzgajali sve što nam je bilo neophodno.
01:25
And of course we had our human habitat, where we lived.
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I naravno imali smo i habitat za ljude, gde smo živeli.
01:28
Back in the mid-'80s when we were designing Biosphere 2,
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Ranije, sredinom 80ih, kada smo projektovali Biosferu 2,
01:31
we had to ask ourselves some pretty basic questions.
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morali smo sebi da postavimo neka prilično elementarna pitanja.
01:33
I mean, what is a biosphere?
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Mislim šta je uopšte biosfera?
01:35
Back then, yes, I guess we all know now
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Onda, naravno, ali pretpostavljam da sada svi znamo
01:37
that it is essentially the sphere of life around the Earth, right?
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da je to u suštini sfera života oko Zemlje, zar ne?
01:40
Well, you have to get a little more specific than that if you're going to build one.
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Pa, morate da budete malo specifičniji od toga, ako planirate da izgradite jednu.
01:43
And so we decided that what it really is
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I onda smo odlučili da je ona u stvari
01:46
is that it is entirely materially closed --
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potpuno materijalno zatvorena
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that is, nothing goes in or out at all, no material --
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to jest, ništa ne ulazi u nju, niti je napušta, nikakav materijal,
01:52
and energetically open,
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ali je otvorena po pitanju energije.
01:54
which is essentially what planet Earth is.
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Što je u suštini ono što je i planeta Zemlja.
01:56
This is a chamber that was 1/400th the size of Biosphere 2
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Ovo je komora, 400 puta manja od Biosfere 2
01:59
that we called our Test Module.
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koju smo nazvali Test Modul.
02:01
And the very first day that this fellow, John Allen,
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Prvog dana kada je naš ortak, Džon Alen,
02:03
walked in, to spend a couple of days in there
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ušao unutra, da bi tamo proveo nekoliko dana
02:05
with all the plants and animals and bacteria that we'd put in there
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sa svim biljkama, životinjama i bakterijama koje smo tamo ubacili,
02:07
to hopefully keep him alive,
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nadajući se da ga održimo u životu,
02:09
the doctors were incredibly concerned
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doktori su bili neverovatno zabrinuti
02:11
that he was going to succumb to some dreadful toxin,
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da će podleći nekom strašnom toksinu,
02:13
or that his lungs were going to get choked with bacteria or something, fungus.
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ili da će da se uguši od bakterija ili gljivica.
02:17
But of course none of that happened.
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Naravno, ništa od toga se nije dogodilo.
02:20
And over the ensuing few years,
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Tokom sledećih nekoliko godina,
02:22
there were great sagas about designing Biosphere 2.
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bilo je velikih saga o dizajniranju Biosfere 2.
02:24
But by 1991
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Ali, do 1991.
02:26
we finally had this thing built.
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konačno smo izgradili ovu stvar.
02:28
And it was time for us to go in
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I došlo je vreme da uđemo unutra
02:30
and give it a go.
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i pružimo joj šansu.
02:32
We needed to know,
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Trebalo je da znamo
02:34
is life this malleable?
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da li je život toliko savitljiv?
02:36
Can you take this biosphere,
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Možete li da uzmete ovu Biosferu,
02:38
that has evolved on a planetary scale,
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koja je evoluirala na planetarnoj skali,
02:40
and jam it into a little bottle,
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i nagurate je u bočicu
02:42
and will it survive?
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i da li će preživeti?
02:44
Big questions.
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To su bitna pitanja.
02:46
And we wanted to know this both for being able to go somewhere else
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Trebalo nam je da znamo ovo da bismo mogli da putujemo negde drugde
02:49
in the universe -- if we were going to go to Mars, for instance,
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u svemir, ako bismo išli na Mars, na primer,
02:52
would we take a biosphere with us, to live in it?
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da li bismo poneli sa nama ovakvu biosferu, da u njoj živimo?
02:54
We also wanted to know so we can understand more about
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Takođe smo ovo želeli da znamo da bismo bolje razumeli
02:56
the Earth that we all live in.
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Zemlju, na kojoj svi živimo.
02:58
Well, in 1991 it was finally time for us to go in
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Pa, 1991. je konačno došlo vreme da uđemo
03:01
and try out this baby.
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i isprobamo ovo luče.
03:03
Let's take it on a maiden voyage.
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Da je povedemo na prvo putovanje.
03:05
Will it work? Or will something happen
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Da li će raditi? Ili će da se desi nešto
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that we can't understand and we can't fix,
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što ne razumemo i ne možemo da popravimo?
03:11
thereby negating the concept of man-made biospheres?
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Stoga negirajući koncept biosfera stvorenih od strane ljudi.
03:15
So eight of us went in: four men and four women.
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Dakle, osmoro nas je ušlo unutra. Četiri muškarca i četiri žene.
03:18
More on that later.
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O tome ćemo kasnije.
03:20
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:22
And this is the world that we lived in.
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Ovo je svet u kome smo živeli.
03:25
So, on the top, we had
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Dakle, na vrhu smo imali
03:27
these beautiful rainforests and an ocean,
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ove predivne kišne šume i okean.
03:29
and underneath we had all this technosphere, we called it,
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A ispod je bila "tehnosfera" kako smo je nazvali.
03:33
which is where all the pumps and the valves
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Tu su bile sve pumpe i ventili
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and the water tanks and the air handlers, and all of that.
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i tankovi sa vodom i uređaji za ventilaciju i ostalo.
03:38
One of the Biospherians called it "garden of Eden
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Jedan od ljudi koji su bili u Biosferi ju je nazvao "Edenski Vrt,
03:40
on top of an aircraft carrier."
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na vrhu nosača aviona".
03:42
And then also we had the human habitat of course,
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I naravno, imali smo i ljudki habitat,
03:44
with the laboratories, and all of that.
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sa laboratorijama i svim ostalim.
03:46
This is the agriculture.
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Ovo je deo za poljoprivredu.
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It was essentially an organic farm.
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U suštini, to je organska farma.
03:51
The day I walked into Biosphere 2,
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Prvog dana kada sam kročila u Biosferu 2,
03:53
I was, for the first time,
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po prvi put sam
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breathing a completely different atmosphere
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udisala vazduh koji se razlikovao od onog
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than everybody else in the world,
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koji je udisao bilo ko drugi na svetu,
04:00
except seven other people.
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osim sedmoro ostalih ljudi.
04:02
At that moment I became part of that biosphere.
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Tog trenutka, ja sam postala deo te biosfere.
04:06
And I don't mean that in an abstract sense;
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I ne mislim to na neki apstraktan način.
04:09
I mean it rather literally.
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Mislim bukvalno.
04:11
When I breathed out, my CO2
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Kad god bih izdahnula, moj ugljen-dioksid
04:14
fed the sweet potatoes that I was growing.
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hranio je slatke krompire koje sam uzgajala.
04:18
And we ate an awful lot of the sweet potatoes.
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A jeli smo užasno mnogo slatkog krompira.
04:21
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:23
And those sweet potatoes
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I ti slatki krompiri
04:25
became part of me.
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postali su deo mene.
04:27
In fact, we ate so many sweet potatoes
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U stvari, jeli smo toliko slatkog krompira
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I became orange with sweet potato.
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da sam od njega postala narandžasta.
04:31
I literally was eating the same carbon over and over again.
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Bukvalno sam iznova i iznova jela isti ugljenik.
04:35
I was eating myself in some strange sort of bizarre way.
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Na neki čudan i bizaran način, jela sam samu sebe.
04:39
When it came to our atmosphere, however,
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Kada se radilo o našoj atmosferi,
04:41
it wasn't that much of a joke over the long term,
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gledano na duge staze, tu već nije bilo mesta za šalu.
04:45
because it turned out that we were losing oxygen, quite a lot of oxygen.
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Zato što se ispostavilo da smo gubili kiseonik i to u velikim količinama.
04:49
And we knew that we were losing CO2.
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A znali smo da smo gubili i ugljen-dioksid.
04:51
And so we were working to sequester carbon.
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I tako smo počeli da izolujemo ugljenik.
04:54
Good lord -- we know that term now.
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Gospode Bože. Sada nam je taj termin dobro poznat.
04:56
We were growing plants like crazy.
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Uzgajali smo biljke kao ludi.
04:58
We were taking their biomass, storing them in the basement,
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Uzimali smo njihovu biomasu i skladištili je u podrumu,
05:00
growing plants, going around, around, around,
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ponovo uzgajali biljke vrteći se u krug, u krug,
05:02
trying to take all of that carbon out of the atmosphere.
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pokušavajući da odstranimo sav taj ugljenik iz atmosfere.
05:04
We were trying to stop carbon from going into the atmosphere.
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Pokušavali smo da sprečimo ugljenik da ode u atmosferu.
05:07
We stopped irrigating our soil, as much as we could.
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Prestali smo da navodnjavamo zemljište, koliko god smo mogli.
05:09
We stopped tilling, so that we could prevent greenhouse gasses from going into the air.
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Prestali smo da obrađujemo zemljište, da bi sprečili gasove, izazivače efekta staklene bašte, da odlaze u vazduh.
05:13
But our oxygen was going down faster
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Ali količina kiseonika je brže opadala
05:15
than our CO2 was going up, which was quite unexpected,
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nego što je količina ugljen-dioksida rasla, što je bilo potpuno neočekivano.
05:18
because we had seen them going in tandem in the test module.
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Zato što su se njihove količine u Test Modulu kretale u tandemu.
05:21
And it was like playing atomic hide-and-seek.
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Bilo je to kao da se igramo žmurke sa atomima.
05:24
We had lost seven tons of oxygen.
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Izgubili smo sedam tona kiseonika.
05:26
And we had no clue where it was.
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I nismo imali pojma gde se nalazio.
05:28
And I tell you, when you lose a lot of oxygen --
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A kažem vam, kada izgubite mnogo kiseonika -
05:31
and our oxygen went down quite far;
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a naš je poprilično opao,
05:33
it went from 21 percent down to 14.2 percent --
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pao je sa 21. procenta na 14.2 procenata -
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my goodness, do you feel dreadful.
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nebesa, kako se loše osećate.
05:39
I mean we were dragging ourselves around the Biosphere.
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Mislim, vukli smo se po Biosferi.
05:42
And we had sleep apnea at night.
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Čak smo imali i apneje tokom noći.
05:44
So you'd wake up gasping with breath,
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Tako da smo se budili vapeći za vazduhom.
05:47
because your blood chemistry has changed.
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To je zato što vam se krvna slika promeni.
05:49
And that you literally do that. You stop breathing and then you -- (Gasps) --
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I onda doslovce uradite ovo: prestanete da dišete i onda (štucne)
05:52
take a breath and it wakes you up. And it's very irritating.
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udahnete i to vas probudi. Veoma je iritantno.
05:54
And everybody outside thought we were dying.
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Svi spolja su mislili da umiremo.
05:56
I mean, the media was making it sound like were were dying.
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Mislim, mediji su naduvali priču tako da je zvučalo kao da umiremo.
05:58
And I had to call up my mother every other day saying, "No, Mum, it's fine, fine.
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Morala sam da zovem majku svakog drugog dana da joj kažem: "Ne mama, u redu je, u redu je.
06:01
We're not dead. We're fine. We're fine."
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Nismo mrtvi, dobro smo. Dobro smo."
06:03
And the doctor was, in fact, checking us
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A doktor nas je stalno proveravao
06:05
to make sure we were, in fact, fine.
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da bi bio siguran da smo, zapravo, dobro.
06:07
But in fact he was the person who was most susceptible to the oxygen.
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A on je u stvari, bio najpodložniji nedostatku kiseonika.
06:11
And one day he couldn't add up a line of figures.
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Jednog dana čak nije mogao da sabere niz brojeva.
06:13
And it was time for us to put oxygen in.
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I došlo je vreme da ubacimo nešto kiseonika unutra.
06:17
And you might think, well,
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I verovatno sada mislite:
06:19
"Boy, your life support system
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"Čoveče, izdavao vas je sistem
06:21
was failing you. Wasn't that dreadful?"
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za održavanje života. Zar to nije bilo zastrašujuće?"
06:23
Yes. In a sense it was terrifying.
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Jeste. U nekom smislu, bilo je zastrašujuće.
06:27
Except that I knew I could walk out the airlock door
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Osim što sam znala da sam mogla da išetam kroz hermetička vrata
06:30
at any time, if it really got bad,
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u svakom trenutku, ako bi situacija postala veoma loša.
06:32
though who was going to say, "I can't take it anymore!"?
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Mada, ko bi rekao: "Ne mogu više ovo da podnesem!"?
06:35
Not me, that was for sure.
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Ja ne, to je bilo sigurno.
06:37
But on the other hand, it was the scientific gold of the project,
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Sa druge strane, ovo je bilo pravo blago ovog projekta za naučnike,
06:41
because we could really crank this baby up,
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zato što smo zaista mogli da iskoristimo ovo
06:43
as a scientific tool,
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u naučne svrhe
06:45
and see if we could, in fact, find
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i vidimo da li možemo, zapravo, da nađemo
06:47
where those seven tons of oxygen had gone.
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gde je nestalo tih sedam tona kiseonika.
06:50
And we did indeed find it.
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I jesmo ga našli.
06:52
And we found it in the concrete.
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A našli smo ga u betonu.
06:54
Essentially it had done something very simple.
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Ono što je uradio bilo je, u stvari, veoma jednostavno.
06:56
We had put too much carbon in the soil in the form of compost.
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Pošto smo ubacili previše ugljenika u zemljište u vidu komposta,
06:59
It broke down; it took oxygen out of the air;
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on se raspao, vezao kiseonik iz vazduha,
07:01
it put CO2 into the air; and it went into the concrete.
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i oslobodio ugljendioksid u vazduh. I rastvorio se u betonu.
07:04
Pretty straightforward really.
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U stvari je veoma jednostavno.
07:06
So at the end of the two years
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Dakle, na kraju te dve godine,
07:08
when we came out, we were elated,
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kada smo izašli, bili smo ushićeni.
07:10
because, in fact, although you might say
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Jer, iako bi mnogi od vas rekli
07:13
we had discovered something that was quite "uhh,"
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da smo otkrili nešto što je "eh",
07:16
when your oxygen is going down,
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kada vam nivo kiseonika opada
07:18
stopped working, essentially, in your life support system,
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kada praktično prestane da radi u vašem sistemu za održavanje života,
07:21
that's a very bad failure.
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to je veliki neuspeh.
07:23
Except that we knew what it was. And we knew how to fix it.
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Ali mi smo znali u čemu je problem. I znali smo kako da ga rešimo.
07:26
And nothing else emerged
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I ništa drugo se nije pojavilo
07:28
that really was as serious as that.
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a da je bilo tako ozbiljno.
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And we proved the concept, more or less.
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I u većoj ili manjoj meri, dokazali smo koncept.
07:32
People, on the other hand, was a different subject.
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Ljudi su, sa druge strane, bili potpuno drugačija stvar.
07:35
We were -- yeah I don't know that we were fixable.
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Mi smo - ne znam da li je bilo moguće nas popraviti.
07:38
We all went quite nuts, I will say.
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Kažem vam, postali smo ludi.
07:40
And the day I came out of Biosphere 2,
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Na dan kada sam napustila Biosferu 2
07:42
I was thrilled I was going to see all my family and my friends.
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bila sam oduševljena što ću videti moju porodicu i moje prijatelje.
07:46
For two years I'd been seeing people through the glass.
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Zadnje dve godine, viđala sam ljude kroz staklo,
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And everybody ran up to me.
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i svi su potrčali ka meni.
07:51
And I recoiled. They stank!
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Ali ja sam ustuknula. Smrdeli su!
07:55
People stink!
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Ljudi smrde!
07:57
We stink of hairspray and underarm deodorant,
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Smrdimo na sprej za kosu i dezodoranse
08:00
and all kinds of stuff.
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i mnoštvo drugih stvari.
08:02
Now we had stuff inside Biosphere to keep ourselves clean,
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Mi jesmo imali sredstva za higijenu u Biosferi,
08:05
but nothing with perfume.
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ali nismo imali ništa sa parfemima.
08:07
And boy do we stink out here.
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Bože što mi smrdimo ovde.
08:10
Not only that,
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Ne samo to,
08:12
but I lost touch of where my food came from.
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ja sam izgubila i osećaj odakle dolazi moja hrana.
08:16
I had been growing all my own food.
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Bila sam sama uzgajala svu svoju hranu.
08:19
I had no idea what was in my food, where it came from.
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A sada nisam imala pojma šta se sve nalazilo u mojoj hrani, niti odakle je dolazila.
08:22
I didn't even recognize half the names in most of the food that I was eating.
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Čak nisam mogla da prepoznam polovinu imena stvari koje sam jela.
08:25
In fact, I would stand for hours in the aisles of shops,
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U stvari, satima sam stajala pored polica u prodavnicama,
08:28
reading all the names on all of the things.
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čitajući sva imena sastojaka na svim stvarima.
08:30
People must have thought I was nuts.
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Ljudi su sigurno mislili da sam poludela.
08:32
It was really quite astonishing.
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To je bilo zaista začuđujuće.
08:38
And I slowly lost track
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I polako sam izgubila trag
08:41
of where I was in this big biosphere, in this big biosphere that we all live in.
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tome gde sam ja u ovoj velikoj biosferi, biosferi u kojoj svi živimo.
08:45
In Biosphere 2 I totally understood
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U Biosferi 2 sam potpuno razumela
08:48
that I had a huge impact on my biosphere, everyday,
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da sam svakodnevno imala ogroman uticaj na moju biosferu,
08:52
and it had an impact on me,
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i da je ona imala uticaj na mene,
08:54
very viscerally, very literally.
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veoma jak i bukvalan.
08:56
So I went about my business:
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I tako sam se posvetila svom poslu,
08:58
Paragon Space Development Corporation,
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Paragonskoj Korporaciji za Prostorno Uređenje,
09:00
a little firm I started with people while I was in the Biosphere,
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maloj firmi koju sam osnovala dok sam bila u Biosferi,
09:02
because I had nothing else to do.
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jer nisam imala šta drugo da radim.
09:04
And one of the things we did was
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Jedna od stvari na kojima smo radili
09:06
try to figure out: how small can you make these biospheres,
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je bio pokušaj da otkrijemo koliko malim možete da napravite ove biosfere.
09:08
and what can you do with them?
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I šta sve možete da uradite sa njima?
09:10
And so we sent one onto the Mir Space Station.
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Tako smo jednu poslali na svemirsku stanicu Mir.
09:13
We had one on the shuttle and one on the International Space Station,
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Jednu smo držali u šatlu, a drugu u međunarodnoj svemirskoj stanici
09:16
for 16 months, where we managed to produce
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tokom 16 meseci, gde smo uspeli da stvorimo
09:18
the first organisms to go through
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prve organizme koji su prošli
09:20
complete multiple life cycles in space --
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više životnih ciklusa u svemiru.
09:22
really pushing the envelope
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Time smo zaista pomerili granice
09:24
of understanding how malleable
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razumevanja o tome koliko su fleksibilni
09:26
our life systems are.
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naši životni sistemi.
09:29
And I'm also proud to announce
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Oduševljena sam što mogu da objavim,
09:31
that you're getting a sneak preview -- on Friday we're going to announce
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da prvi imate uvid u ovo - u petak ćemo objaviti
09:34
that we're actually forming a team
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da zapravo formiramo tim
09:36
to develop a system to grow plants on the Moon,
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za razvoj sistema za uzgoj biljaka na Mesecu,
09:39
which is going to be pretty fun.
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što će biti veoma zabavno.
09:41
And the legacy of that is a system that we were designing:
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Ishod svega toga biće sistem koji smo dizajnirali,
09:44
an entirely sealed system to grow plants to grow on Mars.
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potpuno zatvoreni sistem za uzgoj biljaka za uzgoj na Marsu.
09:48
And part of that is that we had to model
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Deo ovoga je bio modelovanje
09:50
very rapid circulation of CO2
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veoma brzog kruženja ugljen-dioksida
09:54
and oxygen and water through this plant system.
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i kiseonika i vode, kroz ovaj biljni sistem.
09:57
As a result of that modeling
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Kao rezultat tog modelovanja,
09:59
I ended up in all places,
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završila sam na svakakvim mestima
10:01
in Eritrea, in the Horn of Africa.
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u Eritreji, na Rogu Afrike.
10:04
Eritrea, formerly part of Ethiopia,
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Eritreja, nekadašnji deo Etiopije,
10:07
is one of those places that is astonishingly beautiful,
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je jedno od onih zadivljujuće lepih mesta
10:12
incredibly stark, and I have no understanding
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neverovatno jednostavno, a opet nisam mogla da razumem
10:16
of how people eke out a living there.
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kako ljudi preživljavaju tamo.
10:18
It is so dry.
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Tako je suvo.
10:20
This is what I saw.
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Ovo je ono što sam videla.
10:22
But this is also what I saw.
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Ali i ovo je deo onoga što sam videla.
10:24
I saw a company that had
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Videla sam kompaniju koja
10:27
taken seawater
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je na morskoj vodi
10:30
and sand, and they were growing
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i pesku, uzgajala
10:33
a kind of crop that will grow on pure salt water without having to treat it.
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poljoprivrednu kulturu koja može da se uzgaja na slanoj vodi bez potrebe da se preradi.
10:37
And it will produce a food crop.
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I proizvešće hranu.
10:39
In this case it was oilseed.
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U ovom slučaju uljane semenke.
10:41
It was astonishing. They were also producing mangroves
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To je bilo zadivljujuće. Takođe su proizvodili mangrove
10:44
in a plantation.
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na plantaži.
10:46
And the mangroves were providing wood
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A mangrove su dalje korišćene za dobijanje drveta,
10:48
and honey and leaves for the animals,
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meda i lišća za životinje
10:50
so that they could produce milk and whatnot,
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tako da su one mogle da daju mleko i još štošta
10:52
like we had in the Biosphere.
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kao što smo mi radili u Biosferi.
10:54
And all of it was coming from this: shrimp farms.
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A sve to je dolazilo iz ovoga, farme škampa.
10:58
Shrimp farms are a scourge on the earth,
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Farme škampa su pošast na zemlji,
11:00
frankly, from an environmental point of view.
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iskreno, sa stanovišta životne sredine.
11:02
They pour huge amounts of pollutants into the ocean.
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One oslobađaju ogromne količine zagađivača u okean.
11:05
They also pollute their next-door neighbors.
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Takođe zagađuju i svoje najbliže komšije.
11:08
So they're all shitting each other's ponds, quite literally.
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Dakle, upropašćuju jezerca jedno drugom. Bukvalno.
11:11
And what this project was doing
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Ono što se radilo u ovom projektu,
11:14
was taking the effluent of these,
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jeste da je tečan otpad sa ovih farmi,
11:16
and turning them into all of this food.
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pretvaran u svu ovu hranu.
11:18
They were literally turning pollution into abundance for a desert people.
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Doslovce su zagađenje pretvarali u obilje za ljude iz pustinje.
11:23
They had created an industrial ecosystem, of a sense.
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Stvorili su neku vrstu industrijskog ekosistema.
11:27
I was there because I was actually modeling the mangrove portion
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Bila sam tamo jer sam zapravo pravila model udela mangrova
11:31
for a carbon credit program, under the U.N.
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za kreditni program ugljenika, pod pokroviteljstvom Ujedinjenih Nacija
11:33
Kyoto Protocol system.
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u okviru Kjoto protokola.
11:35
And as I was modeling this mangrove swamp,
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I dok sam pravila ovaj model močvare mangrova,
11:37
I was thinking to myself, "How do you put a box around this?"
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razmišljala sam: "Kako ovo da stavim u kutiju"?
11:40
When I'm modeling a plant in a box, literally,
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Kada pravim model biljke u kutiji, bukvalno
11:43
I know where to draw the boundary.
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znam gde da povučem granice.
11:45
In a mangrove forest like this I have no idea.
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Ali u šumi mangrove kao što je ova, nisam imala pojma.
11:48
Well, of course you have to draw the boundary around the whole of the Earth.
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Naravno, granica se mora iscrtati oko cele Zemlje.
11:51
And understand its interactions with the entire Earth.
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I moramo da razumemo njene interakcije sa celom Zemljom.
11:54
And put your project in that context.
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A svoj projekat stavljate u taj kontekst.
11:59
Around the world today we're seeing an incredible transformation,
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Danas širom sveta vidimo jednu neverovatnu transformaciju.
12:04
from what I would call a biocidal species,
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Od onoga što ja nazivam bioubistvena vrsta,
12:08
one that -- whether we intentionally or unintentionally --
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ona koju smo namerno ili nenamerno
12:11
have designed our systems to kill life, a lot of the time.
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dizajnirali u našim sistemima da većinu vremena uništava život.
12:15
This is in fact, this beautiful photograph,
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Ovo je u stvari, ova prelepa fotografija,
12:19
is in fact over the Amazon.
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je napravljena iznad Amazona.
12:21
And here the light green are areas of massive deforestation.
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Ovde su, kao svetlo zelene, prikazane regije masovne seče šuma.
12:26
And those beautiful wispy clouds
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A ovi prelepi paperjasti oblaci
12:28
are, in fact, fires, human-made fires.
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su, zapravo, namerno uzrokovani požari.
12:32
We're in the process of transforming from this,
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Trenutno smo u procesu transformacije iz ovoga
12:35
to what I would call a biophilic society,
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u ono sto bih ja nazvala društvom koje obožava prirodu,
12:39
one where we learn to nurture society.
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u ono u kome učimo da vrednujemo društvo.
12:42
Now it may not seem like it, but we are.
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Možda vam se čini da nismo u tom procesu, ali zapravo jesmo.
12:45
It is happening all across the world,
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To se trenutno dešava širom sveta,
12:48
in every kind of walk of life,
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u svakom segmentu života,
12:50
and every kind of career
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u svakoj vrsti karijere
12:52
and industry that you can think of.
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i industrije koju možemo da zamislimo.
12:56
And I think often times people get lost in that.
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Često razmišljam o tome da su se ljudi tu izgubili.
12:59
They go, "But how can I possibly find my way in that?
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Oni često govore: "Ali kako ja mogu na nađem svoj put u svemu tome?
13:02
It's such a huge subject."
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To je tako krupna stvar."
13:04
And I would say that the small stuff counts. It really does.
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Ali ja bih rekla da se male stvari računaju. Zaista je tako.
13:08
This is the story of a rake in my backyard.
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Ovo je priča o grabulji iz mog zadnjeg dvorišta.
13:13
This was my backyard,
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Ovo je bilo moje dvorište,
13:15
very early on, when I bought my property.
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jako odavno, kada sam tek kupila svoje imanje.
13:17
And in Arizona, of course, everybody puts gravel down.
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A u Arizoni naravno, svi posipaju svoja dvorišta šljunkom.
13:20
And they like to keep everything beautifully raked. And they keep all the leaves away.
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Vole da je sve divno izgrabuljano. Uklanjaju svo lišće.
13:24
And on Sunday morning the neighbors leaf blower comes out,
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Nedeljom ujutro, komšije uklanjaju lišće duvačicama,
13:27
and I want to throttle them.
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a ja želim da ih zadavim.
13:29
It's a certain type of aesthetic.
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To je pitanje estetike.
13:32
We're very uncomfortable with untidiness.
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Ne osećamo se prijatno pored neurednosti.
13:35
And I threw away my rake.
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I tako sam ja odbacila moju grabulju.
13:39
And I let all of the leaves fall from the trees that I have on my property.
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I pustila sam svo lišće da otpadne sa drveća koje imam na svom posedu.
13:43
And over time, essentially what have I been doing?
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Šta sam ja to, u stvari, radila?
13:45
I've been building topsoil.
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Formirala sam površinski sloj komposta.
13:47
And so now all the birds come in. And I have hawks.
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Tako da sada dolaze ptice. Čak i jastrebi.
13:49
And I have an oasis.
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Ja sada imam oazu.
13:53
This is what happens every spring. For six weeks,
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Ovo se dešava svakog proleća. Tokom šest nedelja,
13:57
six to eight weeks, I have this flush of green oasis.
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šest do osam nedelja, ja imam pravi bum zelenila.
14:00
This is actually in a riparian area.
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Ovo je zapravo u priobalnom pojasu.
14:02
And all of Tucson could be like this
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I ceo Tuson bi mogao da bude ovakav
14:04
if everybody would just revolt and throw away the rake.
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samo kada bi se svi pobunili i odbacili svoje grabulje.
14:07
The small stuff counts.
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Male stvari se računaju.
14:11
The Industrial Revolution -- and Prometheus --
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Industrijska revolucija i Prometej,
14:14
has given us this, the ability to light up the world.
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dali su nam ovo: mogućnost da osvetlimo svet.
14:19
It has also given us this,
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Takođe su nam dali i ovo:
14:21
the ability to look at the world from the outside.
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da na svet gledamo spolja.
14:25
Now we may not all have
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Sada, možda nemamo svi
14:27
another biosphere that we can run to,
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drugu biosferu u koju možemo da odemo
14:29
and compare it to this biosphere.
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i uporedimo je sa ovom.
14:32
But we can look at the world,
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Ali možemo da pogledamo na svet
14:34
and try to understand where we are in its context,
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i pokušamo da razumemo gde smo mi u njegovom kontekstu
14:39
and how we choose to interact with it.
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i kako biramo da vršimo interakciju sa njim.
14:43
And if you lose where you are in your biosphere,
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Ako izgubite pojam o tome gde ste u vašoj biosferi,
14:46
or are perhaps having a difficulty connecting
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ili ako možda imate problem sa povezivanjem
14:48
with where you are in the biosphere,
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sa tim gde ste unutar nje,
14:50
I would say to you,
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rekla bih vam
14:53
take a deep breath.
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da udahnete duboko.
14:56
The yogis had it right.
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Jogisti su u pravu, znate.
14:58
Breath does, in fact, connect us all
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Dah nas, u stvari, sve povezuje
15:01
in a very literal way.
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na veoma bukvalan način.
15:03
Take a breath now.
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Sada udahnite.
15:05
And as you breathe, think
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Dok dišete, razmišljajte
15:07
about what is in your breath.
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o tome šta se nalazi u vašem dahu.
15:11
There perhaps is the CO2 from the person sitting next-door to you.
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Tu je verovatno ugljen-dioksid osobe koja sedi u susednoj sobi.
15:16
Maybe there is a little bit of oxygen
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Možda u njemu ima i nešto kiseonika
15:18
from some algae on the beach not far from here.
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od algi sa plaže koja se nalazi nedaleko odavde.
15:23
It also connects us in time.
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Takođe nas to povezuje i u vremenu.
15:26
There may be some carbon in your breath
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Možda u vašem dahu ima ugljenika
15:30
from the dinosaurs.
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dinosaurusa.
15:33
There could also be carbon that you are exhaling now
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Možda čak ima i ugljenika koji sada izdišete,
15:38
that will be in the breath
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a koji će se naći u dahu
15:42
of your great-great-great-grandchildren.
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vaših pra-pra-pra-unuka.
15:45
Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala.

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