Tom Wujec: Got a wicked problem? First, tell me how you make toast

978,306 views ・ 2015-02-05

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Prevodilac: Aleksandar Kovačević Lektor: Ivana Korom
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Some years ago,
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Pre nekoliko godina
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I stumbled across a simple design exercise
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sam naleteo na jednostavnu vežbu iz dizajna
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that helps people understand and solve complex problems,
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pomoću koje se lakše rešavaju složeni problemi,
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and like many of these design exercises, it kind of seems trivial at first,
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i kao mnoge slične vežbe, na prvi pogled deluje trivijalno,
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but under deep inspection,
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ali kada se bolje pogleda,
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it turns out that it reveals unexpected truths
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uspeva da otkrije neočekivane stvari
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about the way that we collaborate and make sense of things.
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o načinima na koje sarađujemo i razmišljamo.
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The exercise has three parts
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Sastoji se iz tri dela,
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and begins with something that we all know how to do,
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a počinje od nečega što svi umemo:
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which is how to make toast.
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pravljenja tosta.
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It begins with a clean sheet of paper, a felt marker,
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Za početak uzmete prazan list papira i flomaster
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and without using any words, you begin to draw how to make toast.
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i bez korišćenja reči crtate uputstvo za pravljenje tosta.
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And most people draw something like this.
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Većina ljudi nacrta nešto poput ovoga.
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They draw a loaf of bread, which is sliced, then put into a toaster.
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Nacrtaju veknu hleba, koja se iseče, pa se stavi u toster.
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The toast is then deposited for some time.
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Toster zatim radi određeno vreme.
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It pops up, and then voila! After two minutes, toast and happiness.
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Hleb iskoči i eto tosta i radosti.
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Now, over the years, I've collected many hundreds of drawings of these toasts,
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Proteklih godina sam sakupio stotine ovakvih crteža,
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and some of them are very good,
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i neki su vrlo dobri,
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because they really illustrate the toast-making process quite clearly.
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jer veoma jasno prikazuju postupak pravljenja tosta.
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And then there are some that are, well, not so good.
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Neki, sa druge strane, i nisu tako dobri.
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They really suck, actually, because you don't know what they're trying to say.
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Zapravo su stvarno bezveze, jer se ne vidi šta žele da prikažu.
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Under close inspection,
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Kad se bolje pogleda,
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some reveal some aspects of toast-making while hiding others.
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neki prikazuju određene strane pravljenja tosta, dok druge kriju.
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So there's some that are all about the toast,
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Tako se neki bave samo tostom,
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and all about the transformation of toast.
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a neki prelaskom hleba u tost.
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And there's others that are all about the toaster,
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A neki se bave siključivo tosterima,
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and the engineers love to draw the mechanics of this.
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inženjeri vole da crtaju taj mehanički deo.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And then there are others that are about people.
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Neki su i o ljudima.
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It's about visualizing the experience that people have.
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Trude se da prenesu ljudski doživljaj.
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And then there are others that are about the supply chain of making toast
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Ima i onih koji se bave logistikom pravljenja tosta,
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that goes all the way back to the store.
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sa početkom u prodavnici.
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It goes through the supply chain networks of teleportation
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Teleportom prolaze kroz čitav lanac snabdevanja,
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and all the way back to the field and wheat,
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vraćaju se do njive i žita,
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and one all actually goes all the way back to the Big Bang.
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jedan čak počinje od samog Velikog Praska.
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So it's crazy stuff.
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Ima ludih stvari.
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But I think it's obvious
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Ali mi se čini da je očito
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that even though these drawings are really wildly different,
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da, iako su vrlo različiti,
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they share a common quality, and I'm wondering if you can see it.
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svi crteži dele jednu osobinu, i zanima me da li je vidite.
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Do you see it? What's common about these?
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Vidite li? Šta im je zajedničko?
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Most drawings have nodes and links.
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Većina se sastoji od čvorova i veza.
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So nodes represent the tangible objects like the toaster and people,
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Čvorovi predstavljaju materijalne stvari, poput tostera i ljudi,
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and links represent the connections between the nodes.
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dok veze povezuju čvorove.
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And it's the combination of links and nodes
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Ta kombinacija čvorova i veza
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that produces a full systems model,
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čini model sistema,
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and it makes our private mental models visible
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koji prenosi naš mentalni model,
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about how we think something works.
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odnosno shvatanje određenih pojava.
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So that's the value of these things.
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Tome oni zapravo služe.
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What's interesting about these systems models
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Zanimljivo je da ovi modeli sistema
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is how they reveal our various points of view.
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oslikavaju naše tačke gledišta.
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So for example, Americans make toast with a toaster.
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Na primer, Amerikanci koriste tostere.
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That seems obvious.
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To je očigledno.
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Whereas many Europeans make toast with a frying pan, of course,
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Međutim, mnogi Evropljani tost prave u tiganju,
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and many students make toast with a fire.
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a mnogi studenti na otvorenom plamenu.
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I don't really understand this. A lot of MBA students do this.
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Ne razumem zašto, ali mnogi master studenti to rade.
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So you can measure the complexity by counting the number of nodes,
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Brojanjem čvorova se može izmeriti složenost crteža,
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and the average illustration has between four and eight nodes.
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i u proseku ih ima između četiri i osam.
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Less than that, the drawing seems trivial,
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Ako ih je manje, crtež deluje trivijalno,
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but it's quick to understand,
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ali se brže razume,
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and more than 13, the drawing produces a feeling of map shock.
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a ako ih je više od 13, čovek se izgubi u crtežu.
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It's too complex.
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Previše je složen.
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So the sweet spot is between 5 and 13.
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Znači da je najbolje između 5 i 13.
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So if you want to communicate something visually,
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Ako želite da nešto prikažete slikom,
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have between five and 13 nodes in your diagram.
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neka na dijagramu bude između 5 i 13 čvorova.
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So though we may not be skilled at drawing,
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Iako možda ne umemo da crtamo,
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the point is that we intuitively know how to break down complex things
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bitno je da umemo da složene stvari instinktivno raščlanimo na jednostavne,
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into simple things and then bring them back together again.
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a zatim ih ponovo sastavimo.
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So this brings us to our second part of the exercise,
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Tu dolazimo do drugog dela vežbe,
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which is how to make toast,
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uputstva za pravljenje tosta,
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but now with sticky notes or with cards.
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ali ovog puta pomoću nalepnica ili kartica.
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So what happens then?
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Šta se tada dešava?
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Well, with cards, most people tend to draw clear, more detailed,
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Kad koristi kartice, većina ljudi crta jasnije, detaljnije
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and more logical nodes.
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i logičnije čvorove.
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You can see the step by step analysis that takes place,
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Vidi se kako se vrši postepena analiza
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and as they build up their model, they move their nodes around,
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i dok se model gradi, redosled čvorova
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rearranging them like Lego blocks.
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se preuređuje poput Lego kockica.
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Now, though this might seem trivial, it's actually really important.
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Iako to deluje nebitno, zapravo je veoma važno.
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This rapid iteration of expressing and then reflecting and analyzing
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Jedino tom brzom smenom između stvaranja
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is really the only way in which we get clarity.
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i sagledavanja i analize postiže se jasnoća izraza.
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It's the essence of the design process.
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To je suština procesa dizajna.
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And systems theorists do tell us
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A teoretičari sistema nam kažu
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that the ease with which we can change a representation
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da je lakoća sa kojom menjamo način prikaza ideje
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correlates to our willingness to improve the model.
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srazmerna našoj volji da poboljšamo model.
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So sticky note systems are not only more fluid,
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Ne samo da su sistemi sa karticama fleksibilniji,
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they generally produce way more nodes than static drawings.
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već i sadrže mnogo više čvorova od crteža.
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The drawings are much richer.
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Mnogo su detaljniji.
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And this brings us to our third part of the exercise,
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Sada počinje treći deo vežbe,
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which is to draw how to make toast, but this time in a group.
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crtanje uputstva za pravljenje tosta, ali u okviru grupe.
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So what happens then?
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Šta se tada dešava?
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Well, here's what happens.
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Dešava se sledeće:
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It starts out messy, and then it gets really messy,
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isprva je neuredno, pa još neurednije,
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and then it gets messier,
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i još neurednije,
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but as people refine the models,
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ali što se model više prerađuje,
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the best nodes become more prominent,
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najbolji čvorovi se sve više ističu
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and with each iteration, the model becomes clearer
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i svakom sledećom verzijom je model sve jasniji
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because people build on top of each other's ideas.
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jer se gradi na tuđim idejama.
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What emerges is a unified systems model
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Time nastaje zajednički model sistema
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that integrates the diversity of everyone's individual points of view,
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koji objedinjuje sve različite tačke gledišta,
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so that's a really different outcome
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što je sasvim suprotno onome
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from what usually happens in meetings, isn't it?
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što se obično dešava na sastancima, zar ne?
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So these drawings can contain 20 or more nodes,
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Ovi crteži mogu da sadrže i preko 20 čvorova,
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but participants don't feel map shock
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ali je teško da se čovek izgubi u njima
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because they participate in the building of their models themselves.
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jer i sam učestvuje u njihovom stvaranju.
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Now, what's also really interesting, that the groups spontaneously mix
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Zanimljivo je da grupe same menjaju
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and add additional layers of organization to it.
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ili dodaju nove načine uređivanja dijagrama.
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To deal with contradictions, for example,
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Na primer, da bi se izbegle protivrečnosti
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they add branching patterns and parallel patterns.
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dodaju se grananja ili paralelne putanje.
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Oh, and by the way, if they do it in complete silence,
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Uz to, sve mnogo brže i bolje ide
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they do it much better and much more quickly.
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ako se radi u tišini.
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Really interesting -- talking gets in the way.
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Stvarno zanimljivo - pričanje ometa.
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So here's some key lessons that can emerge from this.
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Iz ovoga se mogu izvući sledeće pouke:
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First, drawing helps us understand the situations
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prvo, pomoću crtanja događaje shvatamo
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as systems with nodes and their relationships.
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kao sisteme čvorova i njihovih veza.
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Movable cards produce better systems models,
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Pomoću kartica se stvaraju bolji modeli,
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because we iterate much more fluidly.
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jer se mogu mnogo lakše menjati.
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And then the group notes produce the most comprehensive models
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Rad u grupi stvara najopširnije modele
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because we synthesize several points of view.
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zbog spajanja različitih tački gledišta.
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So that's interesting.
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To je zanimljivo.
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When people work together under the right circumstances,
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Ako ljudi sarađuju pod pravim okolnostima,
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group models are much better than individual models.
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grupni modeli su mnogo bolji nego pojedinačni.
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So this approach works really great for drawing how to make toast,
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Vidimo da ovaj pristup dobro funkcioniše za pravljenje tosta,
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but what if you wanted to draw something more relevant or pressing,
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ali šta ako poželite da nacrtate nešto bitnije,
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like your organizational vision, or customer experience,
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recimo viziju kompanije, ili uslužnu delatnost,
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or long-term sustainability?
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ili plan za dugoročnu održivost?
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There's a visual revolution that's taking place
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Dešava se vizuelna revolucija,
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as more organizations are addressing their wicked problems
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jer sve više organizacija rešava nezgodne probleme
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by collaboratively drawing them out.
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tako što ih zajednički iscrta.
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And I'm convinced that those who see their world as movable nodes and links
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Siguran sam da su u prednosti oni koji na svet gledaju
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really have an edge.
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kao na pokretne čvorove i veze.
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And the practice is really pretty simple.
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Ceo postupak je prilično jednostavan.
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You start with a question, you collect the nodes,
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Počne se od pitanja, sakupe se čvorovi,
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you refine the nodes, you do it over again,
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usavrše se, pa se sve ponovi,
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you refine and refine and refine, and the patterns emerge,
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usavršavate i usavršavate dok ne dobijete
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and the group gets clarity and you answer the question.
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jasnu sliku i odgovor na pitanje.
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So this simple act of visualizing and doing over and over again
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Taj jednostavan postupak crtanja i prepravljanja
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produces some really remarkable outcomes.
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donosi izuzetne rezultate.
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What's really important to know
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Važno je znati
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is that it's the conversations that are the important aspects,
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da je bitna komunikacija,
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not just the models themselves.
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a ne sam model.
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And these visual frames of reference
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Toliko različitih tački gledišta
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can grow to several hundreds or even thousands of nodes.
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može da stvori stotine ili čak hiljade čvorova.
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So, one example is from an organization called Rodale.
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Jedan od primera ovoga je kompanija Rodale,
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Big publishing company.
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velika izdavačka kuća.
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They lost a bunch of money one year,
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Jedne godine su izgubili dosta novca,
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and their executive team for three days visualized their entire practice.
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pa je grupa direktora tri dana iscrtavala celokupno poslovanje.
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And what's interesting is that after visualizing the entire business,
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Zanimljivo je da su nakon iscrtavanja celokupnog poslovnog plana,
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systems upon systems,
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sistema i sistema,
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they reclaimed 50 million dollars of revenue,
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ostvarili zaradu od 50 miliona dolara,
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and they also moved from a D rating to an A rating from their customers.
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a ocena mušterija se povećala od prolazne do najbolje.
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Why? Because there's alignment from the executive team.
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Zašto? Zato što su direktori sad sve organizovali.
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So I'm now on a mission to help organizations
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Trudim se da pomognem kompanijama
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solve their wicked problems by using collaborative visualization,
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u rešavanju nezgodnih problema iscrtavanjem u grupi,
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and on a site that I've produced called drawtoast.com,
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a na sajtu drawtoast.com sam sakupio
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I've collected a bunch of best practices.
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neke od najboljih primera.
08:12
and so you can learn how to run a workshop here,
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Tu možete da naučite o vođenju radionica,
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you can learn more about the visual language
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o vizuelnom jeziku i o sastavu
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and the structure of links and nodes that you can apply to general problem-solving,
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čvorova i veza koje se koriste za rešavanje problema,
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and download examples of various templates
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kao i da skinete razne šablone
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for unpacking the thorny problems that we all face in our organizations.
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za borbu protiv teških problema u kompanijama.
08:30
So the seemingly trivial design exercise of drawing toast
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Naizgled trivijalna vežba iz dizajna nam pomaže
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helps us get clear, engaged and aligned.
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da dobijemo jasnu sliku, angažujemo se i organizujemo.
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So next time you're confronted with an interesting challenge,
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Kad se sledeći put suočite sa zanimljivim izazovom,
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remember what design has to teach us.
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setite se šta nam dizajn poručuje.
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Make your ideas visible, tangible, and consequential.
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Neka vam ideje budu vidljive, određene i značajne.
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It's simple, it's fun, it's powerful,
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Jednostavno je, zabavno i moćno,
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and I believe it's an idea worth celebrating.
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i smatram da je to ideja koju vredi proslaviti.
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Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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