We train soldiers for war. Let's train them to come home, too | Hector Garcia

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Prevodilac: Nenad Ljubenović Lektor: Ivana Krivokuća
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Carlos,
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Karlos,
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the Vietnam vet Marine
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marinac, veteran Vijetnamskog rata
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who volunteered for three tours and got shot up in every one.
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koji je dobrovoljno služio u tri navrata i svakog puta bio ranjavan.
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In 1971, he was medically retired
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Godine 1971. je penzionisan iz medicinskih razloga
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because he had so much shrapnel in his body
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zbog toga što je imao previše šrapnela u telu
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that he was setting off metal detectors.
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koji su često aktivirali detektore metala.
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For the next 42 years, he suffered from nightmares,
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Sledeće 42 godine je patio od noćnih mora,
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extreme anxiety in public,
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ekstremne anksioznosti u javnosti,
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isolation, depression.
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izolacije, depresije.
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He self-medicated with alcohol.
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Zloupotrebljavao je alkohol.
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He was married and divorced three times.
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Tri puta se venčavao i razvodio.
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Carlos had post-traumatic stress disorder.
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Karlos je imao posttraumatski stresni poremećaj (PTSP).
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Now, I became a psychologist to help mitigate human suffering,
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Ja sam postao psiholog kako bih pomogao u smanjenju ljudske patnje
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and for the past 10 years, my target has been the suffering caused by PTSD,
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i zadnjih 10 godina se bavim problemima uzrokovanim PTSP-om,
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as experienced by veterans like Carlos.
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kakav su iskusili ratni veterani kao što je Karlos.
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Until recently, the science of PTSD just wasn't there.
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Do skoro, jednostavno nije bilo naučnih podataka o PTSP-u.
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And so, we didn't know what to do.
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Tako da nismo znali šta da radimo.
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We put some veterans on heavy drugs.
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Neke ratne veterane smo tretirali jakim lekovima.
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Others we hospitalized and gave generic group therapy,
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Druge smo hospitalizovali i uključivali u standardnu grupnu terapiju,
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and others still we simply said to them,
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a nekima smo jednostavno rekli:
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"Just go home and try to forget about your experiences."
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„Idite kući i pokušajte da zaboravite svoja neprijatna iskustva.“
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More recently, we've tried therapy dogs, wilderness retreats --
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U poslednje vreme probali smo terapiju sa psima, terapiju u prirodi,
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many things which may temporarily relieve stress,
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mnogo stvari koje mogu privremeno smanjiti stres,
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but which don't actually eliminate PTSD symptoms over the long term.
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ali koje u dugoročnom pogledu ne eliminišu simptome PTSP-a.
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But things have changed.
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Međutim, stvari su se promenile.
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And I am here to tell you that we can now eliminate PTSD,
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Ovde sam da vam kažem da danas možemo u potpunosti eliminisati PTSP,
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not just manage the symptoms,
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ne samo da kontrolišemo simptome,
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and in huge numbers of veterans.
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i to kod velikog broja veterana.
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Because new scientific research has been able to show,
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Nova naučna istraživanja su uspela da pokažu,
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objectively, repeatedly,
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objektivno, više puta,
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which treatments actually get rid of symptoms and which do not.
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koji postupci zaista uklanjaju simptome, a koji to ne mogu.
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Now as it turns out,
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Kako se ispostavilo,
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the best treatments for PTSD use many of the very same training principles
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najbolji tretmani za PTSP koriste mnoge slične principe obuke
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that the military uses in preparing its trainees for war.
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koje vojska korisiti prilikom pripreme vojnika za rat.
01:58
Now, making war --
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Stvaranje rata
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this is something that we are good at.
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je nešto u čemu smo dobri.
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We humans have been making war since before we were even fully human.
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Mi ljudi smo ratovali i pre nego što smo zaista postali ljudi.
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And since then, we have gone from using stone and sinew
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Od tada smo prešli put od upotrebe sirove snage i kamenja
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to developing the most sophisticated and devastating weapon systems imaginable.
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do razvoja najsofisticiranijih i razarajućih oružanih sistema.
A da bismo osposobili naše vojnike da koriste ovakva oružja,
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And to enable our warriors to use these weapons,
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02:18
we employ the most cutting-edge training methods.
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koristimo najsavremenije metode obuke.
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We are good at making war.
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Dobri smo u vođenju rata.
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And we are good at training our warriors to fight.
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A dobri smo i u obučavanju naših vojnika da se bore.
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Yet, when we consider the experience of the modern-day combat veteran,
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Međutim, kada uzmemo u obzir iskustvo ratnih veterana modernog doba,
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we begin to see that we have not been as good
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uviđamo da nismo toliko dobri
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at preparing them to come home.
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u njihovoj pripremi da se vrate kući.
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Why is that?
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Zašto je to tako?
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Well, our ancestors lived immersed in conflict,
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Naši preci su živeli okruženi konfliktima
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and they fought right where they lived.
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i ratovali su na istom mestu gde su i živeli.
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So until only very recently in our evolutionary history,
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Do skoro tokom naše evolucije,
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there was hardly a need to learn how to come home from war,
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skoro da nije bilo potrebe da znamo kako da se vratimo iz rata
zato što se zaista nismo ni vraćali.
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because we never really did.
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02:53
But thankfully, today,
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Srećom, danas najveći deo čovečanstva živi u mnogo mirnijim društvenim zajednicama,
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most of humanity lives in far more peaceful societies,
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and when there is conflict, we, especially in the United States,
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a kada negde postoji konflikt, mi, naročito u SAD-u,
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now have the technology to put our warriors through advanced training,
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imamo mogućnosti da podvrgnemo naše vojnike naprednim treninzima,
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drop them in to fight anywhere on the globe
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da ih ubacimo u borbu bilo gde na planeti,
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and when they're done,
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a kada završe,
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jet them back to peacetime suburbia.
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da ih prebacimo u mirnu urbanu sredinu.
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But just imagine for a moment what this must feel like.
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Zamislite samo na trenutak kako ovo zaista izgleda.
Razgovarao sam sa ratnim veteranima
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I've spoken with veterans who've told me
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koji su mi rekli da su jednog dana bili u ekstremnim borbama u Avganistanu
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that one day they're in a brutal firefight in Afghanistan
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where they saw carnage and death,
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gde su videli pokolj i smrt,
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and just three days later, they found themselves
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a samo tri dana kasnije su se našli u situaciji
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toting an ice chest to their kid's soccer game.
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da nose ručne frižidere na fudbalskim utakmicama svoje dece.
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"Mindfuck" is the most common term.
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„Sjebavanje uma“ je najbolji izraz.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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It's the most common term I've heard to describe that experience.
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To je najčešći termin koji sam čuo da se koristi za opis takvog iskustva.
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And that's exactly what that is.
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A to je zaista tako.
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Because while our warriors spend countless hours training for war,
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Dok naši vojnici provode bezbroj sati pripremajući se za rat,
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we've only recently come to understand
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mi smo tek skoro shvatili
da je mnogima potrebna obuka kako da se vrate u normalan život.
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that many require training on how to return to civilian life.
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Now, like any training, the best PTSD treatments require repetition.
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Kao i bilo koji trening, najbolji tretmani PTSP-a zahtevaju ponavljanje.
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In the military,
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U vojsci,
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we don't simply hand trainees Mark-19 automatic grenade launchers
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mi ne dajemo regrutima jednostavno minobacače Mark-19
i kažemo: „Ovde je okidač, evo ti municija i srećno.“
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and say, "Here's the trigger, here's some ammo and good luck."
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04:03
No. We train them, on the range and in specific contexts,
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Ne. Obučavamo ih na strelištu u specifičnim uslovima,
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over and over and over
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ponovo i ponovo i ponovo
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until lifting their weapon and engaging their target
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sve dok držanje oružja i ciljanje mete
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is so engrained into muscle memory
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ne bude tako ukorenjeno u njihovu mišićnu memoriju
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that it can be performed without even thinking,
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da se može izvesti i bez razmišljanja,
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even under the most stressful conditions you can imagine.
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čak i u najstresnijim situacijama koje možete da zamislite.
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Now, the same holds for training-based treatments.
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To isto važi i za terapiju baziranu na treninzima.
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The first of these treatments is cognitive therapy,
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Prvi od ovih tretmana je kognitivna terapija,
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and this is a kind of mental recalibration.
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a to je jedna vrsta mentalne rekalibracije.
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When veterans come home from war,
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Kada se veterani vrate kući iz rata,
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their way of mentally framing the world is calibrated
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njihov način poimanja sveta je prilagođen
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to an immensely more dangerous environment.
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na strahovito opasnije okruženje.
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So when you try to overlay that mind frame onto a peacetime environment,
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Tako da, kada pokušate da primenite takav način poimanja na mirno okruženje,
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you get problems.
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dobijate probleme.
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You begin drowning in worries about dangers that aren't present.
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Počinjete da se davite u brigama o opasnostima koje nisu prisutne.
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You begin not trusting family or friends.
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Počinjete da ne verujete svojoj porodici i prijateljima,
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Which is not to say there are no dangers in civilian life; there are.
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Nije da ne postoje opasnosti u civilnom životu; ima ih.
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It's just that the probability of encountering them
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Radi se o tome da je verovatnoća susretanja tih opasnosti
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compared to combat
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u poređenju sa borbenim ratnim dejstvima
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is astronomically lower.
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astronomski niža.
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So we never advise veterans to turn off caution completely.
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Tako da mi nikada ne savetujemo veterane da sasvim odbace oprez.
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We do train them, however, to adjust caution
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Mi ih treniramo kako da prilagode svoj oprez
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according to where they are.
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u zavisnosti od toga gde se nalaze.
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If you find yourself in a bad neighborhood,
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Ako se nađete u lošem kraju,
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you turn it up.
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povećate opreznost.
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Out to dinner with family?
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Izlazak na večeru sa porodicom?
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You turn it way down.
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Vi je skroz smanjite.
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We train veterans to be fiercely rational,
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Mi učimo ratne veterane da budu veoma racionalni,
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to systematically gauge the actual statistical probability
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da sistematski odmere realnu statističku verovatnoću
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of encountering, say, an IED here in peacetime America.
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susreta sa, recimo, improvizovanom eksplozivnom napravom
ovde, u mirnodopskoj Americi.
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With enough practice, those recalibrations stick.
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Sa dovoljno vežbe, takve rekalibracije deluju.
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The next of these treatments is exposure therapy,
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Sledeći od ovih tretmana je terapija izlaganjem,
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and this is a kind of field training,
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a to je vrsta obuke na terenu
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and the fastest of the proven effective treatments out there.
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i najbrži od postojećih delotvornih tretmana.
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You remember Carlos?
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Sećate se Karlosa?
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This was the treatment that he chose.
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To je bio tretman koji je on izabrao.
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And so we started off by giving him exercises,
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I tako smo počeli da mu zadajemo vežbe
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for him, challenging ones:
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koje su izazov za njega:
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going to a grocery store,
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odlazak u nabavku namirnica,
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going to a shopping mall, going to a restaurant,
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odlazak u tržni centar,
odlazak u restoran
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sitting with his back to the door.
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sedeći okrenut leđima ka izlaznim vratima.
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And, critically --
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I, ono što je ključno,
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staying in these environments.
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ostajanje u ovakvim okruženjima.
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Now, at first he was very anxious.
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Najpre je bio veoma anksiozan.
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He wanted to sit where he could scan the room,
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Hteo je da sedi na mestu odakle bi mogao da osmatra prostoriju,
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where he could plan escape routes,
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odakle bi mogao da isplanira plan bekstva,
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where he could get his hands on a makeshift weapon.
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odakle bi mogao da se domogne nekog improvizovanog oružja.
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And he wanted to leave, but he didn't.
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Hteo je da ode, ali nije.
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He remembered his training in the Marine Corps,
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Setio se svoje obuke u Marinskom korpusu
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and he pushed through his discomfort.
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i prebrodio je svoju nelagodnost.
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And every time he did this, his anxiety ratcheted down a little bit,
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Svakog puta kad je radio ovo, njegova anksioznost se umanjila,
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and then a little bit more and then a little bit more,
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a onda još malo i još malo
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until in the end,
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sve do kraja,
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he had effectively relearned how to sit in a public space
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kada je u potpunosti ponovo naučio kako da sedi na javnom mestu
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and just enjoy himself.
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i jednostavno uživa.
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He also listened to recordings of his combat experiences,
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Takođe je preslušavao snimke iz svojih borbi
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over and over and over.
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iznova i iznova.
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He listened until those memories no longer generated any anxiety.
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Preslušavao ih je sve dok ta sećanja više nisu uzrokovala anksioznost.
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He processed his memories so much
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Toliko je obradio svoja sećanja
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that his brain no longer needed to return to those experiences
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da njegov mozak više nije morao da se vraća na ta sećanja tokom spavanja.
06:58
in his sleep.
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07:00
And when I spoke with him a year after treatment had finished,
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A kada sam pričao sa njim godinu dana nakon završenog tretmana,
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he told me,
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rekao mi je:
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"Doc, this is the first time in 43 years
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„Doco, ovo je prvi put u proteklih 43 godine
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that I haven't had nightmares."
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da nisam imao noćne more.“
07:13
Now, this is different than erasing a memory.
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Ovo se razlikuje od brisanja sećanja.
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Veterans will always remember their traumatic experiences,
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Ratni veterani će se uvek sećati svojih traumatičnih doživljaja,
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but with enough practice,
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ali sa dovoljno vežbe,
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those memories are no longer as raw or as painful as they once were.
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ta sećanja nisu više toliko sirova i bolna kao što su nekada bila.
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They don't feel emotionally like they just happened yesterday,
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Oni se emocionalno ne osećaju kao da se to juče dogodilo,
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and that is an immensely better place to be.
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a to je nemerljivo bolje za njih.
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But it's often difficult.
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Međutim, to je često teško.
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And, like any training, it may not work for everybody.
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I kao i svaka druga obuka, možda neće delovati na svakoga.
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And there are trust issues.
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A postoje i problemi poverenja.
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Sometimes I'm asked,
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Ponekad me pitaju:
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"If you haven't been there, Doc, how can you help me?"
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„Doco, ako niste bili tamo, kako mi možete pomoći?“
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Which is understandable.
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Što je i razumljivo.
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But at the point of returning to civilian life,
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Međutim, kada se radi o povratku u civilni život,
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you do not require somebody who's been there.
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nije vam potreban neko koje već bio tamo.
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You don't require training for operations on the battlefield;
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Nije vam potrebna obuka za operacije na bojnom bolju;
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you require training on how to come home.
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potrebna vam je obuka o tome kako da se vratite kući.
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For the past 10 years of my work,
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Tokom poslednjih 10 godina mog rada,
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I have been exposed to detailed accounts
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imao sam dodira sa detaljima
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of the worst experiences that you can imagine,
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najgorih iskustava koje možete da zamislite
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daily.
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svakodnevno.
08:19
And it hasn't always been easy.
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Nije uvek bilo lako.
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There have been times where I have just felt my heart break
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Bilo je trenutaka kada sam osetio da mi se srce slama
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or that I've absorbed too much.
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ili da sam se previše udubio.
08:28
But these training-based treatments work so well,
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No, ovi tretmani bazirani na obuci deluju toliko dobro
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that whatever this work takes out of me, it puts back even more,
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da koliko god mi ovaj posao oduzima, on mi čak i više vraća,
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because I see people get better.
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zato što vidim da je ljudima bolje.
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I see people's lives transform.
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Vidim kako se život ljudima transformiše.
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Carlos can now enjoy outings with his grandchildren,
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Karlos sada može da uživa u izlascima sa svojim unucima,
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which is something he couldn't even do with his own children.
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što je nešto što nije mogao da radi čak ni sa svojom decom.
08:49
And what's amazing to me is that after 43 years of suffering,
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A ono što me zapanjuje je da mu je posle 43 godine patnje
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it only took him 10 weeks of intense training to get his life back.
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bilo potrebno samo 10 nedelja intenzivne obuke da povrati svoj život.
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And when I spoke with him, he told me,
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A kada sam razgovarao sa njim, rekao mi je:
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"I know that I can't get those years back.
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„Znam da ne mogu da vratim te godine nazad.
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But at least now, whatever days that I have left on this Earth,
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Ali koliko god dana da mi je ostalo na zemlji,
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I can live them in peace."
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mogu da ih proživim u miru.“
09:13
He also said, "I hope that these younger veterans don't wait
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Takođe je rekao: „Nadam se da mlađi veterani neće čekati
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to get the help they need."
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da potraže pomoć koja im je potrebna."
09:18
And that's my hope, too.
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A tome se i ja nadam.
09:21
Because ...
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Jer...
09:23
this life is short,
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ovaj život je kratak,
09:25
and if you are fortunate enough to have survived war
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i ako ste imali sreće da preživite rat
09:28
or any kind of traumatic experience,
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ili bilo koju vrstu traumatskog iskustva,
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you owe it to yourself to live your life well.
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dugujete sebi da lepo živite svoj život.
09:34
And you shouldn't wait to get the training you need
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I ne treba da čekate da počnete sa obukom koja vam je potrebna
09:37
to make that happen.
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da to ostvarite.
09:40
Now, the best way of ending human suffering caused by war
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Najbolji način da se okonča ljudska patnja uzrokovana ratom
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is to never go to war.
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je da se nikad ne ide u rat.
09:49
But we are just not there yet as a species.
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Ipak, još nismo stigli dotle kao vrsta.
09:52
Until we are,
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Sve dok ne stignemo tamo,
09:53
the mental suffering that we create in our sons and in our daughters
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psihička patnja koju stvaramo kod naših sinova i kćerki
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when we send them off to fight
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kada ih šaljemo u rat
10:00
can be alleviated.
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može biti ublažena.
10:03
But we must ensure that the science, the energy level, the value
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Međutim, moramo se postarati da nauka, količina energije, vrednosti
10:09
that we place on sending them off to war
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koje ulažemo šaljući ih u rat
10:13
is at the very least mirrored
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u najmanju ruku odražavaju
10:15
in how well we prepare them to come back home to us.
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koliko kvalitetno ih pripremamo da nam se vrate kući.
10:19
This much, we owe them.
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Toliko im dugujemo.
10:22
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
10:23
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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