Nathaniel Kahn: My father, my architect

Prevodilac: Ivana Korom Lektor: Sandra Gojic

One thing I wanted to say about film making is -- about this film --

Ono što sam želeo da kažem u vezi sa snimanjem filma - u vezi sa ovim filmom -

in thinking about some of the wonderful talks we've heard here,

razmišljajući o nekim od divnih govora koje smo čuli ovde,

Michael Moschen, and some of the talks about music,

Majkl Mošen i neki govori o muzici,

this idea that there is a narrative line,

ideja da postoji linija naracije

and that music exists in time.

i da muzika postoji u vremenu.

A film also exists in time; it's an experience

Film takođe postoji u vremenu, to je iskustvo

that you should go through emotionally.

kroz koje bi trebalo proći emotivno.

And in making this film I felt that so many of the documentaries I've seen

Snimajući ovaj film osećao sam kako tako mnogo dokumentaraca koje sam video

were all about learning something,

govori o učenju nečega,

or knowledge, or driven by talking heads, and driven by ideas.

ili o znanju ili ga vode krupni kadrovi ili ideje.

And I wanted this film to be driven by emotions,

A želeo sam da ovaj film vode emocije

and really to follow my journey.

i da stvarno prati moje putovanje.

So instead of doing the talking head thing, instead it's composed of scenes,

I umesto da ga napravim od krupnih kadrova, sastavljen je od scena

and we meet people along the way.

a ljude upoznajemo usput.

We only meet them once.

Vidimo ih samo jednom.

They don't come back several times, so it really chronicles a journey.

Ne vraćaju se nekoliko puta, tako da je ovo zaista hronika putovanja.

It's something like life, that once you get in it

Nešto kao život, kad jednom uđete u njega

you can't get out.

ne možete izaći.

There are two clips I want to show you,

Želim da vam prikažem dva inserta,

the first one is a kind of hodgepodge,

prvi je pomalo nabacan,

its just three little moments, four little moments

samo tri kratka trenutka, četiri trenutka

with three of the people who are here tonight.

sa troje ljudi koji su večeras ovde.

It's not the way they occur in the film,

Ne pojavljuju se tako u filmu,

because they are part of much larger scenes.

jer oni su deo mnogo većih scena.

They play off each other in a wonderful way.

Izvanredno se nadograđuju međusobno.

And that ends with a little clip of my father, of Lou,

To se završava kratkim klipom moga oca, Lua,

talking about something that is very dear to him,

koji priča o nečemu što mu je veoma drago,

which is the accidents of life.

a to su slučajnosti života.

I think he felt that the greatest things in life were accidental,

Mislim da je on osećao da su najveće stvari u životu slučajne,

and perhaps not planned at all.

možda potpuno neplanirane.

And those three clips will be followed by a scene of

Ta tri odlomka prati scena

perhaps what, to me, is really his greatest building

po meni njegove najznačajnije zgrade,

which is a building in Dhaka, Bangladesh.

a to je zgrada u Daki, u Bangladešu.

He built the capital over there.

Izgradio je tamošnju prestonicu.

And I think you'll enjoy this building, it's never been seen --

Mislim da ćete uživati u ovoj zgradi, nikada nije viđena,

it's been still photographed, but never photographed by a film crew.

fotografisana je, ali nikada nije snimljena na filmu.

We were the first film crew in there.

Mi smo bili prva filmska ekipa tamo.

So you'll see images of this remarkable building.

Dakle, videćete slike ove izvanredne građevine.

A couple of things to keep in mind when you see it,

Zapamtite par stvari kad je vidite,

it was built entirely by hand,

u potpunosti je izgrađena rukama,

I think they got a crane the last year.

mislim da su kran dobili poslednje godine.

It was built entirely by hand off bamboo scaffolding,

U potpunosti je izgrađena ručno, na skelama od bambusa,

people carrying these baskets of concrete on their heads,

ljudi su nosili korpe betona na glavama,

dumping them in the forms.

ubacivali ih u kalupe.

It is the capital of the country,

To je prestonica ove zemlje,

and it took 23 years to build,

a trebalo je 23 godine da se izgradi,

which is something they seem to be very proud of over there.

što je nešto zbog čega su tamo veoma ponosni.

It took as long as the Taj Mahal.

Trajalo je koliko i Tadž Mahal.

Unfortunately it took so long that Lou never saw it finished.

Nažalost, trajalo je toliko da Lu nije stigao da je vidi gotovu.

He died in 1974.

Umro je 1974.

The building was finished in 1983.

Zgrada je završena 1983.

So it continued on for many years

Znači nastavilo se mnogo godina

after he died.

posle njegove smrti.

Think about that when you see that building,

Setite se toga kada vidite zgradu,

that sometimes the things we strive for so hard in life we never get to see finished.

nekada stvari kojima toliko stremimo u životu, ne vidimo gotove.

And that really struck me about my father,

To me je stvarno pogodilo u vezi sa mojim ocem,

in the sense that he had such belief

u smislu da je verovao

that somehow, doing these things

da nekako, radeći te stvari,

giving in the way that he gave, that something good would come out of it,

dajući na način na koji je on davao, nešto dobro će proizaći,

even in the middle of a war, there was a war with Pakistan at one point,

čak i usred rata, bio je rat u Pakistanu u jednom momentu,

and the construction stopped totally and he kept working,

radovi su se potpuno zaustavili ali on je nastavio,

because he felt, "Well when the war is done

jer je misilo "Kada rat bude gotov

they'll need this building."

biće im potrebna ova zgrada."

So, those are the two clips I'm going to show.

Dakle, to su ta dva inserta koja želim da prikažem.

Roll that tape.

Pustite traku.

(Applause)

(aplauz)

Richard Saul Wurman: I remember hearing him talk at Penn.

Ričard Sol Vurman: Sećam se kako sam ga slušao na Penu.

And I came home and I said to my father and mother,

Došao sam kući i rekao ocu i majci,

"I just met this man: doesn't have much work,

"Upravo sam upoznao čoveka, nema puno posla,

and he's sort of ugly, funny voice,

nekako je ružan, smešnog glasa,

and he's a teacher at school.

nastavnik je u školi.

I know you've never heard of him, but just mark this day

Znam da nikada niste čuli za njega, ali zapamtite danas,

that someday you will hear of him,

da ćete jednoga dana čuti za njega,

because he's really an amazing man."

jer je stvarno neverovatan čovek."

Frank Gehry: I heard he had some kind of a fling with Ingrid Bergman. Is that true?

Frenk Geri: Čuo sam da je imao nekakvu varijantu sa Ingrid Bergman. Je l' to tačno?

Nathaniel Kahn: If he did he was a very lucky man.

Natanijel Kan: Ako je imao, bio je srećnik.

(Laughter)

(smeh)

NK: Did you hear that, really?

NK: Stvarno ste to čuli?

FG: Yeah, when he was in Rome.

FG: Da, kada je bio u Rimu.

Moshe Safdie: He was a real nomad.

Moše Safdi: Bio je pravi nomad.

And you know, when I knew him when I was in the office,

Znate, kada sam ga poznavao dok sam bio u birou,

he would come in from a trip, and he would be in the office

on bi došao sa puta i bio bi u kancelariji

for two or three days intensely, and he would pack up and go.

dva ili tri dana non stop, a onda bi se spakovao i otišao.

You know he'd be in the office till three in the morning working with us

Bio bi u kancelariji do 3 ujutru, radio s nama,

and there was this kind of sense of the nomad in him.

a bilo je nešto nomadsko u njemu.

I mean as tragic as his death was in a railway station,

Mislim, koliko god je njegova smrt na železničkoj stanici tragična,

it was so consistent with his life, you know?

toliko je dosledna njegovom životu, znate?

I mean I often think I'm going to die in a plane,

Ja često mislim kako ću umreti u avionu,

or I'm going to die in an airport,

ili na aerodromu,

or die jogging without an identification on me.

ili dok džogiram i nemam dokumenta kod sebe.

I don't know why I sort of carry that

Ne znam zašto mi se to urezalo

from that memory of the way he died.

iz sećanja na način na koji je umro.

But he was a sort of a nomad at heart.

Bio je nomad u srcu.

Louis Kahn: How accidental our existences are really

Luj Kan: Kako su naša postojanja zapravo slučajna

and how full of influence by circumstance.

i tako puna uticaja okolnosti.

Man: We are the morning workers who come, all the time, here

Čovek: Mi smo jutarnji radnici i dolazimo stalno ovde,

and enjoy the walking, city's beauty and the atmosphere

uživamo u šetnji, lepoti grada i atmosferi,

and this is the nicest place of Bangladesh.

ovo je najlepše mesto u Bangladešu.

We are proud of it.

Ponosni smo na to.

NK: You're proud of it?

NK: Ponosni ste?

Man: Yes, it is the national image of Bangladesh.

Čovek: Da, to je nacionalna slika Bangladeša.

NK: Do you know anything about the architect?

NK: Da li znate nešto o arhitekti?

Man: Architect? I've heard about him; he's a top-ranking architect.

Čovek: Arhitekti? Čuo sam za njega, on je [nejasno] arhitekta.

NK: Well actually I'm here because I'm the architect's son,

NK: Zapravo, ja sam ovde jer ja sam sin tog arhitekte,

he was my father.

on je bio moj otac.

Man: Oh! Dad is Louis Farrakhan?

Čovek: O! Otac je Luj Farakan?

NK: Yeah. No not Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.

NK: Da. Ne, ne Luj Farakan, Luj Kan.

Man: Louis Kahn, yes!

Čovek: Luj Kan, jeste!

(Laughter)

(smeh)

Man: Your father, is he alive?

Čovek: Vaš otac, je l' živ?

NK: No, he's been dead for 25 years.

NK: Ne, umro je pre 25 godina.

Man: Very pleased to welcome you back.

Čovek: Drago nam je što ste došli.

NK: Thank you.

NK: Hvala.

NK: He never saw it finished, Pop.

NK: Tata je nikada nije video završenu.

No, he never saw this.

Ne, nikada ovo nije video.

Shamsul Wares: It was almost impossible, building for a country like ours.

Šamsul Vers: Bilo je skoro nemoguće graditi za zemlju kao što je naša.

In 30, 50 years back, it was nothing, only paddy fields,

Pre 50 godina nije bilo ničega, samo pirinčana polja,

and since we invited him here,

i pošto smo ga pozvali

he felt that he has got a responsibility.

on je osećao da ima veliku odgovornost.

He wanted to be a Moses here, he gave us democracy.

Želeo je da bude Mojsije ovde, dao nam je demokratiju.

He is not a political man,

On nije političan čovek,

but in this guise he has given us

ali u ovom obliku dao nam je

the institution for democracy, from where we can rise.

instituciju demokratije, iz koje možemo da se izdignemo.

In that way it is so relevant.

Na taj način je to bitno.

He didn't care for how much money this country has,

Nije mario koliko novca ima ova zemlja,

or whether he would be able to ever finish this building,

niti da li će ikada uspeti da završi zgradu,

but somehow he has been able to do it, build it, here.

ali nekako je uspeo da je izgradi ovde.

And this is the largest project he has got in here, the poorest country in the world.

I ovo je njegov najveći projekat, ovde, u najsiromašnijoj zemlji na svetu.

NK: It cost him his life.

NK: Koštao ga je života.

SW: Yeah, he paid. He paid his life for this,

ŠV: Da, platio je. Platio je životom za ovo

and that is why he is great and we'll remember him.

i zbog toga je velik i mi ćemo ga se sećati.

But he was also human.

Ali je bio i čovek,

Now his failure to satisfy the family life,

a njegov neuspeh u porodičnom životu

is an inevitable association of great people.

se neizbežno povezuje sa velikanima.

But I think his son will understand this,

Ali mislim da će njegov sin ovo razumeti

and will have no sense of grudge,

i neće mu uzeti za zlo

or sense of being neglected, I think.

ili se osećati zapostavljenim.

He cared in a very different manner,

Njemu je bilo stalo na neki drugačiji način,

but it takes a lot of time to understand that.

ali potrebno je vreme da bi se to razumelo.

In social aspect of his life

U socijalnom aspektu svog života

he was just like a child, he was not at all matured.

bio je kao neko dete, uopšte nije bio zreo.

He could not say no to anything,

Nije mogao ničemu da kaže "ne",

and that is why, that he cannot say no to things,

i zato, jer nije mogao da kaže "ne" stvarima,

we got this building today.

imamo ovu zgradu danas.

You see, only that way you can be able to understand him.

Vidite, jedino na taj način ga možete razumeti.

There is no other shortcut,

Ne postoji druga prečica

no other way to really understand him.

ili neki drug put da ga razumete.

But I think he has given us this building

Ali mislim, dao nam je ovu zgradu

and we feel all the time for him,

i mi saosećamo sa njim,

that's why, he has given love for us.

on nam je dao ljubav.

He could not probably give the right kind of love for you,

Verovatno vama nije mogao dati pravu vrstu ljubavi,

but for us, he has given the people the right kind of love,

ali za nas, dao je ljudima pravu vrstu ljubavi,

that is important.

to je važno.

You have to understand that.

Morate to razumeti.

He had an enormous amount of love,

Imao je ogromnu količinu ljubavi,

he loved everybody.

voleo je sve.

To love everybody, he sometimes did not see

Voleo je sve, a nekada nije video

the very closest ones,

one najbliže,

and that is inevitable for men of his stature.

a to je neizbežno za ljude njegovog ugleda.

(Applause)

(aplauz)