Nathaniel Kahn: My father, my architect

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譯者: Yi Szu-Tu 審譯者: Michelle Fan
00:12
One thing I wanted to say about film making is -- about this film --
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談這部電影前
00:15
in thinking about some of the wonderful talks we've heard here,
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先回想過去的精彩演講
00:19
Michael Moschen, and some of the talks about music,
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像是雜耍大師莫成 或跟音樂有關的
00:21
this idea that there is a narrative line,
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都提到音樂背後有個故事
00:24
and that music exists in time.
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音樂具有時代性
00:27
A film also exists in time; it's an experience
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其實,電影也有時代性,是種體驗
00:30
that you should go through emotionally.
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要投入情感去體會
00:33
And in making this film I felt that so many of the documentaries I've seen
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這部紀錄片有別以往的是
00:35
were all about learning something,
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以往紀錄片多是知識性的
00:38
or knowledge, or driven by talking heads, and driven by ideas.
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不是專家談話,就是多面向分析
00:42
And I wanted this film to be driven by emotions,
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但這部紀錄片跟著情緒走
00:45
and really to follow my journey.
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實際紀錄我的探索旅程
00:47
So instead of doing the talking head thing, instead it's composed of scenes,
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沒有專家,而是紀錄各種畫面
00:50
and we meet people along the way.
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和形形色色
00:52
We only meet them once.
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萍水相逢的人們
00:54
They don't come back several times, so it really chronicles a journey.
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因此這部紀錄片如旅行記事
00:57
It's something like life, that once you get in it
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就像人生,一旦踏上旅途
01:00
you can't get out.
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就沒辦法回頭
01:02
There are two clips I want to show you,
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接下來兩支短片
01:04
the first one is a kind of hodgepodge,
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第一支有點像大雜燴
01:07
its just three little moments, four little moments
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集結三,四個小片段
01:10
with three of the people who are here tonight.
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畫面中三位人士今天有到場
01:12
It's not the way they occur in the film,
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但拍攝時我們完全沒安排
01:14
because they are part of much larger scenes.
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我們的相遇完全是巧合
01:16
They play off each other in a wonderful way.
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但卻相輔相成,恰到好處
01:19
And that ends with a little clip of my father, of Lou,
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最後則是我父親的錄像
01:21
talking about something that is very dear to him,
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他在影片中說道,此生最重視的
01:23
which is the accidents of life.
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莫過於人生中的種種意外
01:25
I think he felt that the greatest things in life were accidental,
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生命中最美好的事,都是機緣巧合
01:28
and perhaps not planned at all.
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完全在計畫之外
01:31
And those three clips will be followed by a scene of
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三個片段最後各位將看到
01:35
perhaps what, to me, is really his greatest building
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我心目中父親最偉大的建築
01:37
which is a building in Dhaka, Bangladesh.
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它位於孟加拉達卡
01:39
He built the capital over there.
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是該國的國會議堂
01:42
And I think you'll enjoy this building, it's never been seen --
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相信會讓各位眼睛一亮
01:44
it's been still photographed, but never photographed by a film crew.
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這棟建築過去只出現在照片上
01:49
We were the first film crew in there.
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我們是首批來錄影的小組
01:52
So you'll see images of this remarkable building.
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影片將呈現這棟蘶峨的建築
01:55
A couple of things to keep in mind when you see it,
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觀賞影片時請記住幾點
01:57
it was built entirely by hand,
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這棟建築完全手工打造
01:59
I think they got a crane the last year.
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最後一年才有起重機
02:03
It was built entirely by hand off bamboo scaffolding,
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因此全靠工人爬上竹製鷹架蓋成
02:06
people carrying these baskets of concrete on their heads,
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工人頭頂水泥桶
02:08
dumping them in the forms.
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灌進模板構築骨幹
02:10
It is the capital of the country,
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它是孟加拉的政治中心
02:12
and it took 23 years to build,
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花了23年才竣工
02:15
which is something they seem to be very proud of over there.
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當地人似乎皆引以為傲
02:18
It took as long as the Taj Mahal.
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工程耗時可比泰姬瑪哈陵
02:20
Unfortunately it took so long that Lou never saw it finished.
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只可惜那時父親已不在世
02:23
He died in 1974.
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他逝世於1974年
02:26
The building was finished in 1983.
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而建築直到1983年才完成
02:29
So it continued on for many years
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因此,工程持續直到完工
02:31
after he died.
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即使建築師早已與世長辭
02:34
Think about that when you see that building,
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欣賞這棟建築時,請試想
02:36
that sometimes the things we strive for so hard in life we never get to see finished.
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有人窮盡畢生耕耘,卻等不及收穫
02:40
And that really struck me about my father,
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我父親就是個例子
02:44
in the sense that he had such belief
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父親一生秉持的信念是
02:46
that somehow, doing these things
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追求夢想時
02:48
giving in the way that he gave, that something good would come out of it,
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不惜豁出一切,這樣美夢就會成真
02:51
even in the middle of a war, there was a war with Pakistan at one point,
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就算正值孟加拉獨立戰爭
02:53
and the construction stopped totally and he kept working,
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工程無法進行,他仍堅持不懈
02:56
because he felt, "Well when the war is done
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他深信 戰爭結束後
02:58
they'll need this building."
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人們會需要這棟建築
03:01
So, those are the two clips I'm going to show.
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接下來請各位欣賞這兩支短片
03:03
Roll that tape.
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請看
03:06
(Applause)
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(掌聲)("我的建築師" TED12精選片段)
03:14
Richard Saul Wurman: I remember hearing him talk at Penn.
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(資訊建築師理查伍爾曼)我還記得在賓大聽他講課
03:17
And I came home and I said to my father and mother,
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一回到家,我便告訴爸媽
03:20
"I just met this man: doesn't have much work,
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我遇到一個人,他看起來無所事事
03:23
and he's sort of ugly, funny voice,
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其貌不揚,聲音很怪
03:27
and he's a teacher at school.
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是我們學校裡的老師
03:29
I know you've never heard of him, but just mark this day
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他現在沒沒無聞,但有朝一日
03:32
that someday you will hear of him,
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他一定會名聲遠播
03:35
because he's really an amazing man."
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因為他真的與眾不同
03:38
Frank Gehry: I heard he had some kind of a fling with Ingrid Bergman. Is that true?
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(建築大師法蘭克蓋瑞) 聽說他跟英格麗褒曼暗有來往?
03:44
Nathaniel Kahn: If he did he was a very lucky man.
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(薩尼康) 若是真的,父親真是艷福不淺
03:46
(Laughter)
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(笑)
03:48
NK: Did you hear that, really?
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(薩) 真有此說?
03:49
FG: Yeah, when he was in Rome.
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(蓋瑞) 是啊,聽說是在羅馬的時候
03:52
Moshe Safdie: He was a real nomad.
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(建築師莫塞薩夫迪) 他是不折不扣的浪子
03:55
And you know, when I knew him when I was in the office,
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跟他一起共事的時候
03:57
he would come in from a trip, and he would be in the office
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他會突然遠遊歸來,出現在辦公室
03:59
for two or three days intensely, and he would pack up and go.
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待沒兩三天,又打包走人
04:02
You know he'd be in the office till three in the morning working with us
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他會留到凌晨三點,一起熬夜工作
04:06
and there was this kind of sense of the nomad in him.
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他就是這麼個浪子
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I mean as tragic as his death was in a railway station,
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連死都要死在火車站
04:14
it was so consistent with his life, you know?
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終其一生表裡如一,對吧?
04:16
I mean I often think I'm going to die in a plane,
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我常想,說不定我會死在飛機上
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or I'm going to die in an airport,
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或死在機場裡
04:20
or die jogging without an identification on me.
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或跑步中途斷氣身亡,成了無名屍
04:23
I don't know why I sort of carry that
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我會這麼想
04:25
from that memory of the way he died.
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多半是想起康的死
04:28
But he was a sort of a nomad at heart.
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但他確實是位真性情的浪子
04:33
Louis Kahn: How accidental our existences are really
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(路易斯康) 人的一生本就意外連連
04:36
and how full of influence by circumstance.
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無時無刻不受周遭影響 (孟加拉恆河)
05:56
Man: We are the morning workers who come, all the time, here
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(路人) 我們常早上來這裡
06:01
and enjoy the walking, city's beauty and the atmosphere
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走路運動,欣賞風景,享受時光
06:05
and this is the nicest place of Bangladesh.
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這是孟加拉最美的地方
06:09
We are proud of it.
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我們很引以為傲
06:11
NK: You're proud of it?
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(薩) 你們很引以為傲?
06:13
Man: Yes, it is the national image of Bangladesh.
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(路人) 沒錯,這是孟加拉的精神指標
06:16
NK: Do you know anything about the architect?
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(薩) 你們知道建築師是誰嗎?
06:19
Man: Architect? I've heard about him; he's a top-ranking architect.
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(路人) 建築師?我知道是有位建築師
06:26
NK: Well actually I'm here because I'm the architect's son,
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(薩) 其實我是這位建築師的兒子
06:29
he was my father.
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他是我父親
06:31
Man: Oh! Dad is Louis Farrakhan?
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(路人) 喔,你爸是路易斯富拉康?
06:33
NK: Yeah. No not Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.
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(薩) 是,但不是路易斯富拉康,是路易斯康
06:36
Man: Louis Kahn, yes!
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(路人) 喔對,是路易斯康
06:39
(Laughter)
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(笑)
06:41
Man: Your father, is he alive?
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(路人) 你爸還活著?
06:43
NK: No, he's been dead for 25 years.
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(薩) 不,去世25年了
06:46
Man: Very pleased to welcome you back.
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(路人) 很高興你能回來
06:49
NK: Thank you.
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(薩) 謝謝
07:30
NK: He never saw it finished, Pop.
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(薩) 波普,他沒看過完工的樣子
07:32
No, he never saw this.
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從沒看過
07:57
Shamsul Wares: It was almost impossible, building for a country like ours.
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(山蘇威爾斯) 簡直不可能在孟加拉蓋這種建築
08:01
In 30, 50 years back, it was nothing, only paddy fields,
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50年前,這裡除了稻田,一無所有
08:05
and since we invited him here,
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不過既然他受邀前來
08:08
he felt that he has got a responsibility.
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他就覺得自己附有使命
08:10
He wanted to be a Moses here, he gave us democracy.
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要作我們的先知,帶來民主
08:13
He is not a political man,
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他不熱衷政治
08:15
but in this guise he has given us
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卻仍為孟加拉蓋了這棟
08:17
the institution for democracy, from where we can rise.
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民主的殿堂,立國的根基
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In that way it is so relevant.
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對我們而言意義深遠
08:24
He didn't care for how much money this country has,
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他不在意孟加拉資金有限
08:26
or whether he would be able to ever finish this building,
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也不在乎蓋不蓋得成
08:29
but somehow he has been able to do it, build it, here.
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但他真的做到了
08:32
And this is the largest project he has got in here, the poorest country in the world.
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艱鉅的工程在最窮的國家完成
08:37
NK: It cost him his life.
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(薩) 他用生命換來的
08:39
SW: Yeah, he paid. He paid his life for this,
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(山蘇威爾斯) 是啊,真的是用生命換來的
08:42
and that is why he is great and we'll remember him.
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也因此,他的偉大我們永不忘記
08:46
But he was also human.
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當然,人不是完美的
08:48
Now his failure to satisfy the family life,
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他沒顧好家庭生活
08:53
is an inevitable association of great people.
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偉人往往都有此缺憾
08:56
But I think his son will understand this,
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但我相信,他的兒子能諒解
08:59
and will have no sense of grudge,
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不再有一絲埋怨
09:01
or sense of being neglected, I think.
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不再覺得自己被忽略
09:04
He cared in a very different manner,
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他只是關心的方式不同
09:07
but it takes a lot of time to understand that.
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要花些時間才能理解
09:09
In social aspect of his life
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社交生活方面
09:13
he was just like a child, he was not at all matured.
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他就像個孩子,一點也不成熟
09:15
He could not say no to anything,
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不懂得拒絕
09:17
and that is why, that he cannot say no to things,
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但也因為他不擅拒絕
09:20
we got this building today.
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我們才有這棟建築
09:23
You see, only that way you can be able to understand him.
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這是瞭解他唯一最好的方式
09:26
There is no other shortcut,
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從別的角度
09:29
no other way to really understand him.
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都無法真正瞭解他
09:32
But I think he has given us this building
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但我想,他給我們這棟建築
09:40
and we feel all the time for him,
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我們對他只有無限感激
09:42
that's why, he has given love for us.
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或許那是他愛我們的方式
09:45
He could not probably give the right kind of love for you,
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這樣的愛對你來說或許沒意義
09:48
but for us, he has given the people the right kind of love,
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對我們來說卻意義深重
09:51
that is important.
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這點相當重要
09:53
You have to understand that.
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你必須要能瞭解
09:55
He had an enormous amount of love,
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他心存大愛
09:57
he loved everybody.
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普愛眾人
09:59
To love everybody, he sometimes did not see
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因而也忽視了
10:03
the very closest ones,
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身邊最親密的人
10:06
and that is inevitable for men of his stature.
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但這是全天下偉人都會犯的錯誤
10:15
(Applause)
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