Nathaniel Kahn: My father, my architect

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翻译人员: Yi Wang 校对人员: HUI YU
00:12
One thing I wanted to say about film making is -- about this film --
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关于这部电影的制作,我想说的是——
00:15
in thinking about some of the wonderful talks we've heard here,
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在听了这么多精彩的演讲后,
00:19
Michael Moschen, and some of the talks about music,
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比如迈克尔·莫成,和其他关于音乐的演讲,
00:21
this idea that there is a narrative line,
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其背后有一条故事线索,
00:24
and that music exists in time.
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正如音乐具有时代性,
00:27
A film also exists in time; it's an experience
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电影也有时代性,它是一种体验,
00:30
that you should go through emotionally.
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是情绪上的。
00:33
And in making this film I felt that so many of the documentaries I've seen
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而在制作这部电影的过程中,
00:35
were all about learning something,
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我意识到过去所看到的很多纪录片,
00:38
or knowledge, or driven by talking heads, and driven by ideas.
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不是关于求知,就是很理性的思考。
00:42
And I wanted this film to be driven by emotions,
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但我希望这部电影能跟着情绪走,
00:45
and really to follow my journey.
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真正跟随我的足迹。
00:47
So instead of doing the talking head thing, instead it's composed of scenes,
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所以,不同于以往那种喋喋不休的纪录片,它由生活的一幕幕组成,
00:50
and we meet people along the way.
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讲述途中与我们邂逅的人们。
00:52
We only meet them once.
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他们在片子里只出现一次。
00:54
They don't come back several times, so it really chronicles a journey.
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没有回放,就像一部按时间顺序写成的游记。
00:57
It's something like life, that once you get in it
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这就好像人生,一旦开始,
01:00
you can't get out.
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就没办法回头。
01:02
There are two clips I want to show you,
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我想给你们看两个片段,
01:04
the first one is a kind of hodgepodge,
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第一个是个大杂烩,
01:07
its just three little moments, four little moments
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它包含三个,四个小片段,
01:10
with three of the people who are here tonight.
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其中的三个人今晚也在场。
01:12
It's not the way they occur in the film,
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他们是碰巧出现在影片中的,
01:14
because they are part of much larger scenes.
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因为他们有更重要的事。
01:16
They play off each other in a wonderful way.
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但他们一唱一和,非常完美。
01:19
And that ends with a little clip of my father, of Lou,
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最后是我父亲——路易的一个片段,
01:21
talking about something that is very dear to him,
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他讲述了对他来说很重要的东西,
01:23
which is the accidents of life.
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那就是生活中的意外。
01:25
I think he felt that the greatest things in life were accidental,
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他认为生命中最伟大的事都是出于意外的,
01:28
and perhaps not planned at all.
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从来不是计划好的。
01:31
And those three clips will be followed by a scene of
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三个短片之后
01:35
perhaps what, to me, is really his greatest building
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是孟加拉国达卡城内那栋大楼的场景,
01:37
which is a building in Dhaka, Bangladesh.
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在我看来那是他最伟大的作品。
01:39
He built the capital over there.
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他在那里建造了一座首都。
01:42
And I think you'll enjoy this building, it's never been seen --
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我相信你们会喜欢这个建筑的,它从未被曝光过。
01:44
it's been still photographed, but never photographed by a film crew.
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它一直以来只出现在照片中,从未有摄像团队对它进行过拍摄。
01:49
We were the first film crew in there.
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我们是第一个在那里的摄像团队。
01:52
So you'll see images of this remarkable building.
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你将看到这座令人叹为观止的建筑。
01:55
A couple of things to keep in mind when you see it,
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当你看到它的时候,请记住
01:57
it was built entirely by hand,
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它是完全用工人的双手建起来的。
01:59
I think they got a crane the last year.
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他们最后一年才启用起重机。
02:03
It was built entirely by hand off bamboo scaffolding,
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它是工人们在竹制脚手架上,
02:06
people carrying these baskets of concrete on their heads,
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头顶一桶桶混凝土,
02:08
dumping them in the forms.
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用双手建成的。
02:10
It is the capital of the country,
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那是这个国家的首都,
02:12
and it took 23 years to build,
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历经23年才建造完成,
02:15
which is something they seem to be very proud of over there.
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之后便成为当地人的骄傲,
02:18
It took as long as the Taj Mahal.
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它和泰姬陵花费了一样长的时间。
02:20
Unfortunately it took so long that Lou never saw it finished.
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但可惜的是,路易未能亲眼看到它完成。
02:23
He died in 1974.
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他于1974年去世。
02:26
The building was finished in 1983.
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大楼于1983年竣工。
02:29
So it continued on for many years
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工程在他去世之后
02:31
after he died.
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又进行了好多年。
02:34
Think about that when you see that building,
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当你看到这大楼的时候,
02:36
that sometimes the things we strive for so hard in life we never get to see finished.
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想像一下我们为它倾尽毕生的心血,却不能目睹它的完成。
02:40
And that really struck me about my father,
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最触动我的
02:44
in the sense that he had such belief
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是我父亲的那种信仰,
02:46
that somehow, doing these things
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以他特有的方式去投入这些事,
02:48
giving in the way that he gave, that something good would come out of it,
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相信最后可以取得成就。
02:51
even in the middle of a war, there was a war with Pakistan at one point,
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即使在孟加拉和巴基斯坦陷入战争时,
02:53
and the construction stopped totally and he kept working,
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工程不得不暂停,但他还是坚持他的工作,
02:56
because he felt, "Well when the war is done
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因为他相信,“战争会结束,
02:58
they'll need this building."
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他们会需要这座建筑。“
03:01
So, those are the two clips I'm going to show.
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接下来就是我要为大家展现的两个片段。
03:03
Roll that tape.
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开始吧。
03:06
(Applause)
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03:14
Richard Saul Wurman: I remember hearing him talk at Penn.
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理查德·索尔·沃尔曼:我记得在宾夕法尼亚大学听他讲课。
03:17
And I came home and I said to my father and mother,
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回到家后我对父母说,
03:20
"I just met this man: doesn't have much work,
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”我刚刚遇到一个人,看起来无所事事,
03:23
and he's sort of ugly, funny voice,
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其貌不扬,声音古怪,
03:27
and he's a teacher at school.
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他是我们的老师。
03:29
I know you've never heard of him, but just mark this day
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你们也许从未听说过他,但请记住这一天,
03:32
that someday you will hear of him,
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终有一天他会出名的,
03:35
because he's really an amazing man."
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因为他真的是一个令人惊叹的人。"
03:38
Frank Gehry: I heard he had some kind of a fling with Ingrid Bergman. Is that true?
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弗兰克·盖里:我听说他和英格丽·褒曼有过一段艳遇,是真的么?
03:44
Nathaniel Kahn: If he did he was a very lucky man.
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纳撒尼尔·康恩:如果那是真的,那么他很幸运。
03:46
(Laughter)
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(笑)
03:48
NK: Did you hear that, really?
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康恩:你真的听说了?
03:49
FG: Yeah, when he was in Rome.
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盖里:是的,当他在罗马的时候。
03:52
Moshe Safdie: He was a real nomad.
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摩西·萨夫迪:他是个真正的浪子。
03:55
And you know, when I knew him when I was in the office,
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我在他的办公室第一次认识他,
03:57
he would come in from a trip, and he would be in the office
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他可能刚刚旅行回来,
03:59
for two or three days intensely, and he would pack up and go.
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也许就会在办公室里连续呆两三天,然后打包再出发。
04:02
You know he'd be in the office till three in the morning working with us
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他会在办公室里和我们一起工作直到3点,
04:06
and there was this kind of sense of the nomad in him.
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而他骨子里是个浪子。
04:08
I mean as tragic as his death was in a railway station,
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这很有悲剧色彩,就如同他在火车站的死亡一样,
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it was so consistent with his life, you know?
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他的生活就是这样,你明白么?
04:16
I mean I often think I'm going to die in a plane,
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我经常想像自已死在飞机上,
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or I'm going to die in an airport,
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或者是机场,
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or die jogging without an identification on me.
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或者在慢跑的时候死去,连确认身份的方法都没有。
04:23
I don't know why I sort of carry that
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不知什么原因,
04:25
from that memory of the way he died.
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从他去世之后我一直有这样的念头。
04:28
But he was a sort of a nomad at heart.
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他是个彻头彻尾的浪子。
04:33
Louis Kahn: How accidental our existences are really
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路易·康恩:人生充满意外,
04:36
and how full of influence by circumstance.
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并且受到周围的影响。
05:56
Man: We are the morning workers who come, all the time, here
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路人:我们早上总是过来这边散步,
06:01
and enjoy the walking, city's beauty and the atmosphere
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城市很美,环境很好,
06:05
and this is the nicest place of Bangladesh.
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这是孟加拉国最美的地方。
06:09
We are proud of it.
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我们很自豪。
06:11
NK: You're proud of it?
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康恩:你们感到自豪?
06:13
Man: Yes, it is the national image of Bangladesh.
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路人:是的,这是孟加拉国的标志。
06:16
NK: Do you know anything about the architect?
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康恩:你知道这个建筑师么?
06:19
Man: Architect? I've heard about him; he's a top-ranking architect.
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路人:建筑师?我听说过他。
06:26
NK: Well actually I'm here because I'm the architect's son,
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康恩:其实我是他的儿子,
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he was my father.
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他是我父亲。
06:31
Man: Oh! Dad is Louis Farrakhan?
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路人:哦!你父亲是路易·法拉康恩?
06:33
NK: Yeah. No not Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.
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康恩:恩。不是路易·法拉康恩,是路易·康恩。
06:36
Man: Louis Kahn, yes!
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路人:路易·康恩,是的!
06:39
(Laughter)
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(笑)
06:41
Man: Your father, is he alive?
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路人:你父亲还健在么?
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NK: No, he's been dead for 25 years.
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康恩:他去世已有25年了。
06:46
Man: Very pleased to welcome you back.
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路人:欢迎你回来。
06:49
NK: Thank you.
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康恩:谢谢。
07:30
NK: He never saw it finished, Pop.
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康恩:他未能看到它竣工,
07:32
No, he never saw this.
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他没有看到。
07:57
Shamsul Wares: It was almost impossible, building for a country like ours.
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沙姆斯·维尔斯:在我们这样的国家搞建设几乎是不可能的。
08:01
In 30, 50 years back, it was nothing, only paddy fields,
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50年以前这里除了稻田什么都没有,
08:05
and since we invited him here,
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而自从我们邀请他到来之后,
08:08
he felt that he has got a responsibility.
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他就感到身负重任。
08:10
He wanted to be a Moses here, he gave us democracy.
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他想要成为这里的摩西,他要给我们带来民主。
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He is not a political man,
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他并不是政客,
08:15
but in this guise he has given us
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但他却通过自己的方式
08:17
the institution for democracy, from where we can rise.
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给我们带来了民主,从此我们站起来了。
08:20
In that way it is so relevant.
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这十分重要。
08:24
He didn't care for how much money this country has,
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他并不在乎这个国家是多么穷困,
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or whether he would be able to ever finish this building,
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也不在乎他能否完成这座大楼,
08:29
but somehow he has been able to do it, build it, here.
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但他最终做到了,他完成了它,在这个国家。
08:32
And this is the largest project he has got in here, the poorest country in the world.
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这是他最伟大的项目,在这个世上最穷的国家。
08:37
NK: It cost him his life.
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康恩:他为此献出生命。
08:39
SW: Yeah, he paid. He paid his life for this,
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维尔斯:是的,他为此付出生命。
08:42
and that is why he is great and we'll remember him.
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这正是他的伟大之处,我们也会为此铭记他。
08:46
But he was also human.
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但他毕竟是个凡人,
08:48
Now his failure to satisfy the family life,
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牺牲了他的家庭。
08:53
is an inevitable association of great people.
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此于伟人,无可避免。
08:56
But I think his son will understand this,
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但我相信他的儿子能够理解,
08:59
and will have no sense of grudge,
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而不至于去怨恨,
09:01
or sense of being neglected, I think.
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或感到被忽略。
09:04
He cared in a very different manner,
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他的关爱与众不同,
09:07
but it takes a lot of time to understand that.
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这需要时间才能理解。
09:09
In social aspect of his life
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在社交上,
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he was just like a child, he was not at all matured.
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他就像的小孩,并不成熟。
09:15
He could not say no to anything,
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他从不能说“不”,
09:17
and that is why, that he cannot say no to things,
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也正因如此,
09:20
we got this building today.
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我们今天才有了这座建筑。
09:23
You see, only that way you can be able to understand him.
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只有这样,你才能够去理解他。
09:26
There is no other shortcut,
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没有捷径可走,
09:29
no other way to really understand him.
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没有其他方法去理解他。
09:32
But I think he has given us this building
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他给了我们这座建筑,
09:40
and we feel all the time for him,
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我们一直很感激他,
09:42
that's why, he has given love for us.
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他给了我们爱。
09:45
He could not probably give the right kind of love for you,
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他可能无法给你足够的父爱,
09:48
but for us, he has given the people the right kind of love,
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但为我们,他给了我们全心全意的关爱,
09:51
that is important.
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这很重要。
09:53
You have to understand that.
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你必须明白。
09:55
He had an enormous amount of love,
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他相当博爱,
09:57
he loved everybody.
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他爱每一个人。
09:59
To love everybody, he sometimes did not see
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而为了爱每个人,
10:03
the very closest ones,
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他有时候却忽略了最亲近的人,
10:06
and that is inevitable for men of his stature.
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这是像他这样的人所无法避免的。
10:15
(Applause)
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