Nathaniel Kahn: My father, my architect

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Prevoditelj: Tilen Pigac - EFZG Recezent: Mislav Ante Omazić - EFZG
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One thing I wanted to say about film making is -- about this film --
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Jedna stvar koju želim reći o snimanju filmova -- o tom filmu --
00:15
in thinking about some of the wonderful talks we've heard here,
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u razmišljanju o nekim od prekrasnih govora koje smo čuli ovdje,
00:19
Michael Moschen, and some of the talks about music,
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Michael Moschen, i neki od govora o glazbi,
00:21
this idea that there is a narrative line,
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je ta ideja kako postoji pripovjedačka linija,
00:24
and that music exists in time.
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i kako glazba postoji u vremenu.
00:27
A film also exists in time; it's an experience
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Film isto tako postoji u vremenu, to je iskustvo
00:30
that you should go through emotionally.
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kroz koje biste trebali proći emocionalno.
00:33
And in making this film I felt that so many of the documentaries I've seen
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A u izradi ovog filma osjećao sam kako su mnogi dokumentarni filmovi koje sam vidio
00:35
were all about learning something,
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bili o učenju nečega,
00:38
or knowledge, or driven by talking heads, and driven by ideas.
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ili znanja, ili potaknuti glavama koje govore, i potaknuti idejama.
00:42
And I wanted this film to be driven by emotions,
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I želio sam da ovaj film bude potaknut osjećajima,
00:45
and really to follow my journey.
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i da doista slijedi moje putovanje.
00:47
So instead of doing the talking head thing, instead it's composed of scenes,
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Dakle, umjesto glava koje govore, on je sastavljen od scena,
00:50
and we meet people along the way.
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i mi susreće ljude duž našeg puta.
00:52
We only meet them once.
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Srećemo ih samo jednom.
00:54
They don't come back several times, so it really chronicles a journey.
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Oni se ne vraćaju natrag više puta, pa stoga to doista bilježi putovanje.
00:57
It's something like life, that once you get in it
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To je nešto poput života, jednom kada uđeš u njega
01:00
you can't get out.
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ne možeš izaći van.
01:02
There are two clips I want to show you,
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Postoje dva video isječka koja vam želim pokazati,
01:04
the first one is a kind of hodgepodge,
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prvi je neka vrsta čudne mješavine,
01:07
its just three little moments, four little moments
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to je samo tri mala trenutka, četiri mala trenutka
01:10
with three of the people who are here tonight.
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s tri osobe koje su večeras ovdje.
01:12
It's not the way they occur in the film,
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Nije način na koji se pojavljuju u filmu,
01:14
because they are part of much larger scenes.
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jer su oni dio mnogo većih prizora.
01:16
They play off each other in a wonderful way.
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Oni izigravaju jedan drugoga na prekrasan način.
01:19
And that ends with a little clip of my father, of Lou,
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A to završava s malim video isječkom mog oca, Lou-a,
01:21
talking about something that is very dear to him,
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koji priča o nečemu što je njemu vrlo drago,
01:23
which is the accidents of life.
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a to su životne zgode.
01:25
I think he felt that the greatest things in life were accidental,
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Mislim kako je osjećao kako su najveće stvari u životu slučajne,
01:28
and perhaps not planned at all.
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i možda uopće nisu planirane.
01:31
And those three clips will be followed by a scene of
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A nakon ta tri isječka će slijediti prizor
01:35
perhaps what, to me, is really his greatest building
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nečega što je po meni, njegova uistinu najbolja građevina
01:37
which is a building in Dhaka, Bangladesh.
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a to je zgrada u Dhaki, Bangladešu.
01:39
He built the capital over there.
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On je tamo izgradio glavni grad.
01:42
And I think you'll enjoy this building, it's never been seen --
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I mislim kako ćete uživati u toj zgradi, nikada nije bila viđena,
01:44
it's been still photographed, but never photographed by a film crew.
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još uvijek se fotografira, ali nikada je nije fotografirala filmska ekipa.
01:49
We were the first film crew in there.
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Mi smo bili prva filmska ekipa tamo unutra.
01:52
So you'll see images of this remarkable building.
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Dakle, vidjet ćete snimke te izvanredne zgrade.
01:55
A couple of things to keep in mind when you see it,
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Par stvari koje trebate imati na umu kada je vidite,
01:57
it was built entirely by hand,
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jest kako je u potpunosti izgrađena ručno,
01:59
I think they got a crane the last year.
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mislim kako su prošle godine dobili dizalicu.
02:03
It was built entirely by hand off bamboo scaffolding,
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U potpunosti je ručno izgrađena na skelama od bambusa,
02:06
people carrying these baskets of concrete on their heads,
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i ljudi koji nose te košare betona na svojim glavama,
02:08
dumping them in the forms.
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i odlažu ih u kalupe.
02:10
It is the capital of the country,
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To je glavni grad zemlje,
02:12
and it took 23 years to build,
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i trebalo je 23 godine da se izgradi,
02:15
which is something they seem to be very proud of over there.
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što je nešto na što su tamo jako ponosni.
02:18
It took as long as the Taj Mahal.
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Trajalo je jednako dugo kao i izgradnja Taj Mahala.
02:20
Unfortunately it took so long that Lou never saw it finished.
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Nažalost, gradnja je trajala toliko dugo da Lou nikada nije dočekao završetak.
02:23
He died in 1974.
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Umro je 1974. godine.
02:26
The building was finished in 1983.
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Zgrada je završena 1983. godine.
02:29
So it continued on for many years
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Dakle, gradnja je nastavljena mnogo godina
02:31
after he died.
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nakon što je on umro.
02:34
Think about that when you see that building,
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Razmislite o tome kada vidite tu zgradu,
02:36
that sometimes the things we strive for so hard in life we never get to see finished.
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kako nekada stvari kojima težimo toliko marljivo cijeli život, nikada ne vidimo završene.
02:40
And that really struck me about my father,
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I to me doista pogodilo o mom ocu,
02:44
in the sense that he had such belief
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na način da je imao takvo uvjerenje
02:46
that somehow, doing these things
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kako će nekako, radeći te stvari,
02:48
giving in the way that he gave, that something good would come out of it,
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dajući na način na koji je on davao, kako će nešto dobro proizaći iz toga,
02:51
even in the middle of a war, there was a war with Pakistan at one point,
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čak i usred rata, u jednom trenutku vodio se rat s Pakistanom,
02:53
and the construction stopped totally and he kept working,
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i gradnja je u potpunosti stala a on je nastavio raditi,
02:56
because he felt, "Well when the war is done
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jer je osjećao, "Pa, kada rat završi,
02:58
they'll need this building."
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trebat će im ova zgrada."
03:01
So, those are the two clips I'm going to show.
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Dakle, to su dva video isječka koja vam želim pokazati.
03:03
Roll that tape.
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Zavrtite tu vrpcu.
03:06
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
03:14
Richard Saul Wurman: I remember hearing him talk at Penn.
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Richard Saul Wurman: Sjećam se slušajući ga kako priča na Penn Sveučilištu.
03:17
And I came home and I said to my father and mother,
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I došao sam doma i rekao svom ocu i majci,
03:20
"I just met this man: doesn't have much work,
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"Upravo sam upoznao tog čovjeka, nema puno posla,
03:23
and he's sort of ugly, funny voice,
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i ima prilično ružan, smiješan glas,
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and he's a teacher at school.
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i on je profesor na Sveučilištu.
03:29
I know you've never heard of him, but just mark this day
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Znam kako nikada niste čuli o njemu, ali obilježite ovaj dan
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that someday you will hear of him,
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kako ćete jednom čuti za njega,
03:35
because he's really an amazing man."
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jer on je doista izniman čovjek."
03:38
Frank Gehry: I heard he had some kind of a fling with Ingrid Bergman. Is that true?
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Frank Gehry: Čuo sam kako je imao neku vrstu afere s Ingrid Bergman. Je li to istina?
03:44
Nathaniel Kahn: If he did he was a very lucky man.
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Nathaniel Kahn: Ukoliko jest, on je bio doista sretan čovjek.
03:46
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:48
NK: Did you hear that, really?
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NK: jeste li to čuli, doista?
03:49
FG: Yeah, when he was in Rome.
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FG: Da, kada sam bio u Rimu.
03:52
Moshe Safdie: He was a real nomad.
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Moshe Safdie: On je bio pravi nomad.
03:55
And you know, when I knew him when I was in the office,
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I znaš, kada sam ga poznavao kada sam bio u uredu,
03:57
he would come in from a trip, and he would be in the office
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on bi se vratio s puta, i ostao bi u uredu
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for two or three days intensely, and he would pack up and go.
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intenzivno dva ili tri dana, i zatim bi se ponovno spakirao i otišao.
04:02
You know he'd be in the office till three in the morning working with us
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Znaš, on bi bio u uredu sve do tri ujutro radeći s nama
04:06
and there was this kind of sense of the nomad in him.
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i postojao je taj osjećaj prisutnosti skitnice u njemu.
04:08
I mean as tragic as his death was in a railway station,
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Mislim, koliko god njegova smrt na željezničkoj pruzi bila tragična,
04:14
it was so consistent with his life, you know?
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bila je toliko dosljedna njegovu životu, znaš?
04:16
I mean I often think I'm going to die in a plane,
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Mislim, ja često razmišljam kako ću umrijeti u avionu,
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or I'm going to die in an airport,
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ili ću umrijeti na aerodromu,
04:20
or die jogging without an identification on me.
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ili ću umrijeti trčeći bez ikakve identifikacije na sebi.
04:23
I don't know why I sort of carry that
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Ne znam zašto nosim to
04:25
from that memory of the way he died.
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kao sjećanje na način na koji je umro.
04:28
But he was a sort of a nomad at heart.
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Ali u srcu je bio neka vrsta skitnice.
04:33
Louis Kahn: How accidental our existences are really
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Louis Kahn: Koliko slučajna su uistinu naša postojanja
04:36
and how full of influence by circumstance.
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i koliko puna utjecaja okolnosti.
05:56
Man: We are the morning workers who come, all the time, here
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Čovjek: Mi smo jutarnji radnici koji dolaze, cijelo vrijeme, ovdje
06:01
and enjoy the walking, city's beauty and the atmosphere
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i uživamo u šetnji, gradskoj ljepoti i atmosferi
06:05
and this is the nicest place of Bangladesh.
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i ovo je najljepše mjesto u Bangladešu.
06:09
We are proud of it.
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Ponosni smo na to mjesto.
06:11
NK: You're proud of it?
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NK: Ponosni ste?
06:13
Man: Yes, it is the national image of Bangladesh.
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Čovjek: Da, to je nacionalna slika Bangladeša.
06:16
NK: Do you know anything about the architect?
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NK: Znate li išta o arhitektu?
06:19
Man: Architect? I've heard about him; he's a top-ranking architect.
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Čovjek: Arhitektu? Čuo sam kako je on [nejasno] arhitekt.
06:26
NK: Well actually I'm here because I'm the architect's son,
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NK: Pa, zapravo ja sam ovdje jer sam ja sin arhitekta,
06:29
he was my father.
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on je bio moj otac.
06:31
Man: Oh! Dad is Louis Farrakhan?
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Čovjek: O! Otac je Loius Farrakhan?
06:33
NK: Yeah. No not Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.
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NK: Da. Ne nije Louis Farrakhan, Louis Kahn.
06:36
Man: Louis Kahn, yes!
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Čovjek: Louis Kahn, da!
06:39
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:41
Man: Your father, is he alive?
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Čovjek: Vaš otac, je li živ?
06:43
NK: No, he's been dead for 25 years.
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NK: Ne, mrtav je već 25 godina.
06:46
Man: Very pleased to welcome you back.
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Čovjek: Vrlo nam je drago što ste se vratili.
06:49
NK: Thank you.
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NK: Hvala vam.
07:30
NK: He never saw it finished, Pop.
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NK: On nikada nije vidio završetak gradnje, Pop.
07:32
No, he never saw this.
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Ne, nikada nije vidio ovo.
07:57
Shamsul Wares: It was almost impossible, building for a country like ours.
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Shamsul Wares: Bilo je gotovo nemoguće, graditi za zemlju poput naše,
08:01
In 30, 50 years back, it was nothing, only paddy fields,
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jer prije 50 godina, nije bilo ničega, samo rižina polja,
08:05
and since we invited him here,
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a kako smo ga pozvali ovamo,
08:08
he felt that he has got a responsibility.
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osjećao je kako ima odgovornost.
08:10
He wanted to be a Moses here, he gave us democracy.
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On je želio ovdje biti Mojsije, dao nam je demokraciju.
08:13
He is not a political man,
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On nije političar,
08:15
but in this guise he has given us
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ali pod tom krinkom nam je dao
08:17
the institution for democracy, from where we can rise.
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tu instituciju za demokraciju, iz koje se možemo uzdići.
08:20
In that way it is so relevant.
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U tom smislu je jako važna.
08:24
He didn't care for how much money this country has,
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On nije mario koliko novca ova zemlja ima,
08:26
or whether he would be able to ever finish this building,
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ili hoće li ikada uspijeti završiti gradnju ove zgrade,
08:29
but somehow he has been able to do it, build it, here.
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ali nekako mu je uspjelo, izgraditi je, ovdje.
08:32
And this is the largest project he has got in here, the poorest country in the world.
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A ovo je najveći projekt koji je imao, upravo ovdje, u najsiromašnijoj zemlji svijeta.
08:37
NK: It cost him his life.
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NK: Stajala ga je života.
08:39
SW: Yeah, he paid. He paid his life for this,
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SW: Da, platio je. Platio je životom za ovo,
08:42
and that is why he is great and we'll remember him.
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i upravo zato je on velik i mi ćemo ga se sjećati.
08:46
But he was also human.
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Ali ujedno je bio čovjek,
08:48
Now his failure to satisfy the family life,
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sada njegov neuspjeh da zadovolji obiteljski život,
08:53
is an inevitable association of great people.
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je bila neizbježna asocijacija velikih ljudi.
08:56
But I think his son will understand this,
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Ali mislim kako će njegov sin to razumijeti,
08:59
and will have no sense of grudge,
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i neće imati nikakvu zamjerku,
09:01
or sense of being neglected, I think.
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ili osjećaj zanemarenosti, mislim.
09:04
He cared in a very different manner,
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On je mario na vrlo drugačiji način,
09:07
but it takes a lot of time to understand that.
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ali potrebno je mnogo vremena kako bi se to razumijelo.
09:09
In social aspect of his life
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U društvenom aspektu svog života,
09:13
he was just like a child, he was not at all matured.
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on je bio poput djeteta, nije uopće sazrio.
09:15
He could not say no to anything,
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Nije mogao reći ne ničemu,
09:17
and that is why, that he cannot say no to things,
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i zato, zbog toga što nije mogao reći ne stvarima,
09:20
we got this building today.
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imamo ovu zgradu danas.
09:23
You see, only that way you can be able to understand him.
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Vidite, samo na taj način, moći ćete ga razumijeti.
09:26
There is no other shortcut,
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Ne postoji nijedan drugi prečac,
09:29
no other way to really understand him.
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niti jedan drugi način da ga se uistinu razumije.
09:32
But I think he has given us this building
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Ali mislim, kako nam je dao tu zgradu
09:40
and we feel all the time for him,
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i stalno imamo osjećaje prema njemu,
09:42
that's why, he has given love for us.
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zato jer je dao ljubav za nas.
09:45
He could not probably give the right kind of love for you,
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Možda vama nije dao pravu vrstu ljubavi,
09:48
but for us, he has given the people the right kind of love,
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ali nama, dao je nama ljudima pravu vrstu ljubavi,
09:51
that is important.
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i to je važno.
09:53
You have to understand that.
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Morate shvatiti to.
09:55
He had an enormous amount of love,
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Imao je ogromnu količinu ljubavi,
09:57
he loved everybody.
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sve je volio.
09:59
To love everybody, he sometimes did not see
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Kako je sve volio, nekada nije primjetio
10:03
the very closest ones,
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svoje najbliže,
10:06
and that is inevitable for men of his stature.
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a to je neizbježno za ljude njegova ugleda.
10:15
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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