What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids | Deeyah Khan

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Translator: Crawford Hunt Reviewer: Joanna Pietrulewicz
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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Mile Živković
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When I was a child, I knew I had superpowers.
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Kad sam bila dete, znala sam da imam supermoći.
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That's right.
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To je tačno.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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I thought I was absolutely amazing because I could understand
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Mislila sam da sam potpuno neverovatna jer sam mogla da razumem
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and relate to the feelings of brown people,
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i da saosećam sa smeđim ljudima,
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like my grandfather, a conservative Muslim guy.
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poput mog dede, konzervativnog muslimana.
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And also, I could understand my Afghan mother, my Pakistani father,
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A takođe sam mogla da razumem moju majku Avganistanku, mog oca Pakistanca,
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not so religious but laid-back, fairly liberal.
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koji nisu bili naročito religiozni, već opušteni, prilično liberalni.
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And of course, I could understand
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I naravno, mogla sam da razumem
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and relate to the feelings of white people.
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i da saosećam sa belim ljudima.
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The white Norwegians of my country.
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Belim Norvežanima iz svoje zemlje.
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You know, white, brown, whatever --
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Znate, belim, smeđim, kako god -
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I loved them all.
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sve sam ih volela.
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I understood them all,
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Sve sam ih razumela,
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even if they didn't always understand each other;
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čak iako nisu uvek razumeli jedni druge,
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they were all my people.
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svi su bili moji ljudi.
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My father, though, was always really worried.
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Moj otac je ipak bio stalno krajnje zabrinut.
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He kept saying that even with the best education,
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Govorio bi da i uz najbolje obrazovanje
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I was not going to get a fair shake.
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neću imati poštene šanse.
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I would still face discrimination, according to him.
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Smatrao je da ću se i dalje suočavati sa diskriminacijom.
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And that the only way to be accepted by white people
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I da je jedini način da me belci prihvate
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would be to become famous.
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to da postanem poznata.
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Now, mind you, he had this conversation with me when I was seven years old.
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Sad, možete misliti, ovako smo razgovarali kad mi je bilo sedam godina.
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So while I'm seven years old, he said,
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Kad mi je bilo sedam godina, rekao je:
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"Look, so it's either got to be sports, or it's got to be music."
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"Gledaj, biraj sport ili muziku."
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He didn't know anything about sports -- bless him -- so it was music.
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Nije znao bilo šta o sportu - srećom - pa je odabrana muzika.
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So when I was seven years old, he gathered all my toys, all my dolls,
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Pa, kad mi je bilo sedam godina, pokupio je dve moje igračke i lutke
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and he threw them all away.
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i sve ih bacio.
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In exchange he gave me a crappy little Casio keyboard and --
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U zamenu mi je dao bezveznu malu kasio klavijaturu i -
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Yeah. And singing lessons.
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Da. I časove pevanja.
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And he forced me, basically, to practice for hours and hours every single day.
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I praktično me je naterao da vežbam satima i satima svakog dana.
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Very quickly, he also had me performing for larger and larger audiences,
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Veoma brzo, naterao me je da nastupam pred sve većom i većom publikom,
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and bizarrely, I became almost a kind of poster child
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i, bizarno, ali postala sam skoro kao dete sa letka
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for Norwegian multiculturalism.
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norveškog multikulturalizma.
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I felt very proud, of course.
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Bila sam veoma ponosna, naravno.
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Because even the newspapers at this point
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Jer su čak i novine u tom momentu
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were starting to write nice things about brown people,
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počele da pišu lepo o smeđim ljudima,
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so I could feel that my superpower was growing.
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pa sam osećala kako moja supermoć raste.
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So when I was 12 years old, walking home from school,
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Pa, kad mi je bilo 12 godina, vraćajući se iz škole,
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I took a little detour
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malo sam skrenula s puta
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because I wanted to buy my favorite sweets called "salty feet."
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jer sam želela da kupim omiljeni slatkiš nazvan "slana stopala".
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I know they sound kind of awful,
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Znam da zvuče nekako grozno,
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but I absolutely love them.
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ali sam ih potpuno obožavala.
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They're basically these little salty licorice bits in the shape of feet.
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U suštini to su maleni slani komadići slada u obliku stopala.
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And now that I say it out loud, I realize how terrible that sounds,
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I sad dok to glasno izgovaram, shvatam kako odvratno zvuči,
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but be that as it may, I absolutely love them.
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ali kako god, ja sam ih potpuno obožavala.
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So on my way into the store,
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Pa se na mom putu do radnje
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there was this grown white guy in the doorway blocking my way.
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našao odrasli belac, stajao je na ulazu blokirajući mi prolaz.
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So I tried to walk around him, and as I did that, he stopped me
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Pa sam pokušala da ga obiđem, i dok sam to radila, zaustavio me je
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and he was staring at me,
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i zurio je u mene,
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and he spit in my face, and he said,
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i pljunuo mi je u lice, rekavši:
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"Get out of my way
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"Skloni mi se s puta
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you little black bitch, you little Paki bitch,
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ti mala crna kučko, ti mala pakistanska kučko,
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go back home where you came from."
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vrati se u zemlju iz koje si došla."
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I was absolutely horrified.
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Bila sam prestravljena.
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I was staring at him.
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Zurila sam u njega.
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I was too afraid to wipe the spit off my face,
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Bilo me je suviše strah da obrišem pljuvačku s lica,
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even as it was mixing with my tears.
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čak i dok se mešala s mojim suzama.
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I remember looking around, hoping that any minute now,
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Sećam se da sam se osvrćala u nadi da će svakog trena
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a grown-up is going to come and make this guy stop.
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odrasla osoba prići i naterati ovog čoveka da prestane.
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But instead, people kept hurrying past me and pretended not to see me.
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No, umesto toga, ljudi su žurili mimo mene i pretvarali se da me ne vide.
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I was very confused because I was thinking, well,
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Bila sam veoma zbunjena jer sam mislila, dobro:
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"My white people, come on! Where are they? What's going on?
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"Moji belci, hajde! Gde su? Šta se dešava?"
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How come they're not coming and rescuing me?"
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Kako to da ne dolaze da me spase?
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So, needless to say, I didn't buy the sweets.
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Pa, bespotrebno je reći da nisam kupila slatkiš.
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I just ran home as fast as I could.
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Prosto sam što brže odjurila kući.
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Things were still OK, though, I thought.
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I dalje je sve ipak bilo u redu, mislila sam.
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As time went on, the more successful I became,
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Kako je vreme prolazilo, postajala sam sve uspešnija,
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I eventually started also attracting harassment from brown people.
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vremenom sam takođe počela da privlačim maltretiranja smeđih ljudi.
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Some men in my parent's community felt that it was unacceptable
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Neki muškarci iz zajednice mojih roditelja su osećali da je neprihvatljivo
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and dishonorable for a woman to be involved in music
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i nečasno za ženu da se bavi muzikom
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and to be so present in the media.
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i da bude toliko prisutna u medijima.
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So very quickly, I was starting to become attacked at my own concerts.
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Pa su, veoma brzo, počeli da me napadaju na mojim koncertima.
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I remember one of the concerts, I was onstage, I lean into the audience
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Sećam se jednog od koncerata, bila sam na sceni, nagela se prema publici
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and the last thing I see is a young brown face,
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i poslednje što sam videla je mlado smeđe lice,
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and the next thing I know is some sort of chemical is thrown in my eyes
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a sledeće čega sam svesna je da mi je neku hemikaliju bacio u oči,
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and I remember I couldn't really see and my eyes were watering
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i sećam se da skoro nisam mogla da vidim i oči su mi suzile,
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but I kept singing anyway.
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ali sam ipak nastavila da pevam.
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I was spit in the face in the streets of Oslo, this time by brown men.
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Pljuvali su mi u lice na ulicama Osla, ovog puta smeđi ljudi.
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They even tried to kidnap me at one point.
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Jednom su čak pokušali da me kidnapuju.
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The death threats were endless.
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Pretnje smrću su bile beskonačne.
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I remember one older bearded guy stopped me in the street one time,
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Sećam se da me je jednom stariji, bradati čovek zaustavio na ulici
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and he said, "The reason I hate you so much
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i rekao: "Mrzim te toliko
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is because you make our daughters think
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jer zbog tebe naše kćerke misle
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they can do whatever they want."
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da mogu da rade šta požele."
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A younger guy warned me to watch my back.
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Mlađi čovek me je upozorio da se pripazim.
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He said music is un-Islamic and the job of whores,
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Rekao je da je muzika neislamska i posao za kurve,
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and if you keep this up, you are going to be raped
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i ako nastavim s tim, da će me silovati
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and your stomach will be cut out so that another whore like you will not be born.
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i da će mi raseći stomak kako ne bih rodila kurvu sličnu sebi.
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Again, I was so confused.
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Opet sam bila veoma zbunjena.
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I couldn't understand what was going on.
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Nisam mogla da razumem šta se dešavalo.
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My brown people now starting to treat me like this -- how come?
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Moji smeđi ljudi su počeli da me tako tretiraju - kako to?
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Instead of bridging the worlds, the two worlds,
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Umesto da premošćujem svetove, dva sveta,
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I felt like I was falling between my two worlds.
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osećala sam da padam između moja dva sveta.
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I suppose, for me, spit was kryptonite.
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Pretpostavljam da je za mene pljuvačka bila kriptonit.
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So by the time I was 17 years old,
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Do moje 17 godine,
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the death threats were endless, and the harassment was constant.
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pretnje smrću su bile beskrajne, a maltretiranje je bilo stalno.
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It got so bad, at one point my mother sat me down and said,
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Toliko se pogoršalo, da mi je majka u jednom momentu rekla:
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"Look, we can no longer protect you, we can no longer keep you safe,
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"Gledaj, ne možemo više da te štitimo i da ti obezbedimo sigurnost,
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so you're going to have to go."
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moraćeš da ideš."
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So I bought a one-way ticket to London, I packed my suitcase and I left.
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Pa sam kupila kartu u jednom pravcu za London, spakovala kofer i otišla.
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My biggest heartbreak at that point was that nobody said anything.
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Najviše me je tada povredilo to što niko nije rekao bilo šta.
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I had a very public exit from Norway.
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Moj odlazak iz Norveške je bio itekako javan.
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My brown people, my white people -- nobody said anything.
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Moji smeđi ljudi, moji beli ljudi - niko nije rekao bilo šta.
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Nobody said, "Hold on, this is wrong.
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Niko nije rekao: "Sačekaj, ovo je pogrešno.
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Support this girl, protect this girl, because she is one of us."
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Podržimo ovu devojku, zaštitimo ovu devojku jer je jedna od nas."
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Nobody said that.
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Niko to nije rekao.
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Instead, I felt like -- you know at the airport,
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Umesto toga, osećala sam se - znate na aerodromima,
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on the baggage carousel you have these different suitcases
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na pokretnoj traci za prtljag imate razne kofere
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going around and around,
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koji kruže i kruže,
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and there's always that one suitcase left at the end,
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i uvek ima taj jedan kofer koji ostane na kraju,
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the one that nobody wants, the one that nobody comes to claim.
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onaj koga niko ne želi, koga niko ne traži.
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I felt like that.
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Tako sam se osećala.
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I'd never felt so alone. I'd never felt so lost.
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Nikad se nisam osećala tako usamljeno. Nikad se nisam osećala tako izgubljeno.
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So, after coming to London, I did eventually resume my music career.
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Pa, po dolasku u London, vremenom sam nastavila muzičku karijeru.
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Different place, but unfortunately the same old story.
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Drugo mesto, ali nažalost ista stara priča.
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I remember a message sent to me saying that I was going to be killed
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Sećam se poruke koja mi je stigla u kojoj je pisalo da će me ubiti
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and that rivers of blood were going to flow
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i da će reke krvi teći
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and that I was going to be raped many times before I died.
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i da će me silovati više puta pre nego što umrem.
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By this point, I have to say,
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Do tad, moram da kažem,
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I was actually getting used to messages like this,
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zapravo sam se navikla na ovakve poruke,
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but what became different was that now they started threatening my family.
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ali različito je bilo to da su sad počeli da prete mojoj porodici.
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So once again, I packed my suitcase, I left music and I moved to the US.
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Pa sam ponovo spakovala kofer, napustila muziku i preselila se u SAD.
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I'd had enough.
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Bilo mi je dosta.
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I didn't want to have anything to do with this anymore.
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Nisam želela više da imam bilo šta s ovim.
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And I was certainly not going to be killed for something
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I sigurno nisam želela da poginem zbog nečega
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that wasn't even my dream -- it was my father's choice.
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što nije ni bilo moj san - to je bio izbor mog oca.
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So I kind of got lost.
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Pa sam se nekako izgubila.
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I kind of fell apart.
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Nekako sam se slomila.
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But I decided that what I wanted to do
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Ali sam odlučila da želim
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is spend the next however many years of my life
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da provedem ostatak nebitno koliko godina mog života
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supporting young people
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podržavajući mlade ljude
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and to try to be there in some small way,
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i pokušavajući da budem prisutna na neke sitne načine,
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whatever way that I could.
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kako god mogla.
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I started volunteering for various organizations
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Počela sam da volontiram za razne organizacije
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that were working with young Muslims inside of Europe.
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koje su radile s mladim muslimanima unutar Evrope.
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And, to my surprise, what I found was
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I, na moje iznenađenje, otkrila sam
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so many of these young people were suffering and struggling.
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da se toliko tih mladih ljudi pati i muči.
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They were facing so many problems with their families and their communities
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Suočavali su se sa tolikim problemima u svojim porodicama i zajednicama
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who seemed to care more about their honor and their reputation
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koje su se činile da više mare za svoju čast i ugled
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than the happiness and the lives of their own kids.
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nego za sreću i živote svoje dece.
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I started feeling like maybe I wasn't so alone, maybe I wasn't so weird.
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Počela sam da osećam da možda nisam sama, da možda nisam toliko čudna.
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Maybe there are more of my people out there.
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Možda napolju ima još mojih ljudi.
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The thing is, what most people don't understand
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Stvar je u tome, nešto što mnogi ne razumeju,
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is that there are so many of us growing up in Europe
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da ima toliko nas koji odrastamo u Evropi
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who are not free to be ourselves.
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koji nismo slobodni da budemo mi sami.
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We're not allowed to be who we are.
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Nama nije dozvoljeno da budemo to što jesmo.
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We are not free to marry
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Nismo slobodni da se venčavamo
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or to be in relationships with people that we choose.
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ili da budemo u vezama s ljudima koje odaberemo.
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We can't even pick our own career.
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Ne možemo ni da biramo karijeru.
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This is the norm in the Muslim heartlands of Europe.
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Ovo je norma u muslimanskim delovima Evrope.
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Even in the freest societies in the world, we're not free.
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Čak i u najslobodnijim društvima u svetu, mi nismo slobodni.
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Our lives, our dreams, our future does not belong to us,
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Naši životi, naši snovi, naša budućnost nam ne pripadaju,
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it belongs to our parents and their community.
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oni pripadaju našim roditeljima i njihovim zajednicama.
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I found endless stories of young people
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Otkrila sam bezbroj priča o mladim ljudima
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who are lost to all of us,
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koje su promakle svima nama,
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who are invisible to all of us
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koji su nevidljive za sve nas,
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but who are suffering, and they are suffering alone.
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ali koji pate i pate usamljeni.
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Kids we are losing to forced marriages, to honor-based violence and abuse.
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Deca koju gubimo u ugovorenim brakovima, u nasilju zbog časti i zlostavljanju.
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Eventually, I realized after several years of working with these young people,
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Naposletku sam shvatila, nakon nekoliko godina rada s ovim mladim ljudima,
09:00
that I will not be able to keep running.
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da neću moći da nastavim da bežim.
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I can't spend the rest of my life being scared and hiding
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Ne mogu da provedem ostatak života u strahu i skrivanju
09:07
and that I'm actually going to have to do something.
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i da ću zapravo morati da preduzmem nešto.
09:11
And I also realized that my silence, our silence,
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Takođe sam shvatila da moje ćutanje, naše ćutanje,
09:14
allows abuse like this to continue.
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omogućuje da se slično zlostavljanje nastavi.
09:17
So I decided that I wanted to put my childhood superpower to some use
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Pa sam odlučila da želim nekako da iskoristim svoju supermoć iz detinjstva
09:22
by trying to make people on the different sides of these issues understand
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tako što ću naterati ljude s različitih strana ovih problema da razmeju
09:27
what it's like to be a young person stuck between your family and your country.
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kako je biti mlada osoba zaglavljena između svoje porodice i svoje države.
09:32
So I started making films, and I started telling these stories.
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Pa sam počela da pravim filmove, i počela sam da pričam ove priče.
09:36
And I also wanted people to understand the deadly consequences of us
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Takođe sam želela da ljudi shvate smrtonosne posledice kad mi
09:41
not taking these problems seriously.
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ne uzmemo ove probleme za ozbiljno.
09:43
So the first film I made was about Banaz.
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Pa je prvi film koji sam napravila bio o Banaz.
09:47
She was a 17-year-old Kurdish girl in London.
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Bila je 17-ogodišnja Kurdkinja u Londonu.
09:51
She was obedient, she did whatever her parents wanted.
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Bila je poslušna, radila je sve što su njeni roditelji želeli.
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She tried to do everything right.
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Pokušavala je da sve uradi kako treba.
09:57
She married some guy that her parents chose for her,
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Udala se za nekog momka koga su njeni roditelji odabrali,
09:59
even though he beat and raped her constantly.
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iako ju je stalno tukao i silovao.
10:03
And when she tried to go to her family for help, they said,
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Pokušavši da ode kod svoje porodice za pomoć, rekli su:
10:06
"Well, you got to go back and be a better wife."
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"Pa, moraš da se vratiš i budeš bolja supruga."
10:08
Because they didn't want a divorced daughter on their hands
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Zato što nisu želeli da imaju posla sa razvedenom kćerkom
10:11
because, of course, that would bring dishonor on the family.
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jer bi to, naravno, bilo nečasno za porodicu.
10:15
She was beaten so badly her ears would bleed,
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Toliko ju je tukao da bi joj uši krvarile,
10:19
and when she finally left and she found a young man that she chose
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a kad ga je konačno napustila i našla mladića kog je odabrala
10:24
and she fell in love with,
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i u kog se zaljubila,
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the community and the family found out
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zajednica i porodica su otkrili,
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and she disappeared.
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i ona je nestala.
10:30
She was found three months later.
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Pronađena je tri meseca kasnije.
10:33
She'd been stuffed into a suitcase and buried underneath the house.
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Ugurana je u kofer i zakopana ispod kuće.
10:39
She had been strangled, she had been beaten to death
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Zadavila su je i tukla do smrti
10:44
by three men, three cousins, on the orders of her father and uncle.
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tri muškarca, tri rođaka, po naređenju njenog oca i ujaka.
10:49
The added tragedy of Banaz's story
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Dodatna tragedija u Banazinoj priči
10:51
is that she had gone to the police in England five times asking for help,
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je da se pet puta obratila engleskoj policiji za pomoć,
10:57
telling them that she was going to be killed by her family.
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rekavši im da će je njena porodica ubiti.
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The police didn't believe her so they didn't do anything.
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Policija joj nije verovala, te nisu uradili bilo šta.
11:04
And the problem with this
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A problem s ovim
11:06
is that not only are so many of our kids facing these problems
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je da ne samo da se mnoga naša deca suočavaju s ovim problemima
11:10
within their families and within their families' communities,
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unutar svojih porodica i unutar zajednica svojih porodica,
11:13
but they're also meeting misunderstandings
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već takođe nailaze na nerazumevanje
11:18
and apathy in the countries that they grow up in.
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i apatiju u državama u kojima su odrasli.
11:23
When their own families betray them, they look to the rest of us,
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Kada ih sopstvene porodice izdaju, obraćaju se nama ostalima,
11:28
and when we don't understand,
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a kad mi ne razumemo,
11:30
we lose them.
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gubimo ih.
11:32
So while I was making this film, several people said to me,
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Pa, dok sam radila na ovom filmu, nekoliko ljudi mi je reklo:
11:36
"Well, Deeyah, you know, this is just their culture,
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"Pa, Dija, znaš, to je prosto njihova kultura,
11:38
this is just what those people do to their kids
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to je prosto nešto što ti ljudi rade svojoj deci
11:40
and we can't really interfere."
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i zaista se ne možemo mešati."
11:43
I can assure you being murdered is not my culture.
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Uveravam vas da biti ubijen nije moja kultura.
11:48
You know?
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Znate?
11:49
And surely people who look like me,
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I zasigurno ljudi kao ja,
11:51
young women who come from backgrounds like me,
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mlade žene koje potiču iz sličnih sredina kao ja,
11:53
should be subject to the same rights, the same protections
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bi trebalo da podležu istim pravima, istoj zaštiti
11:57
as anybody else in our country, why not?
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kao i bilo ko u našoj državi, zašto ne?
12:02
So, for my next film, I wanted to try and understand
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Dakle, u svom sledećem filmu sam pokušala da razumem
12:06
why some of our young Muslim kids in Europe
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zašto neke od naših mladih muslimanskih klinaca u Evropi
12:09
are drawn to extremism and violence.
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privlači ekstremizam i nasilje.
12:12
But with that topic,
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Međutim, uz tu temu
12:13
I also recognized that I was going to have to face my worst fear:
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sam takođe spoznala da ću morati da se suočim s najvećim strahom:
12:18
the brown men with beards.
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smeđim bradatim muškarcima.
12:22
The same men, or similar men,
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Istim muškarcima ili sličnim muškarcima
12:25
to the ones that have hounded me for most of my life.
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onim koji su me šikanirali veći deo mog života.
12:29
Men that I've been afraid of most of my life.
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Muškarcima kojih se plašim veći deo svog života.
12:32
Men that I've also deeply disliked,
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Muškaracima koje takođe istinski nisam volela
12:34
for many, many years.
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dugo, dugo godina.
12:36
So I spent the next two years interviewing convicted terrorists,
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Pa sam provela sledeće dve godine intervjuišući osuđene teroriste,
12:40
jihadis and former extremists.
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džihadiste i bivše ekstremiste.
12:43
What I already knew, what was very obvious already,
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Otpre sam znala nešto što je već očigledno,
12:46
was that religion, politics, Europe's colonial baggage,
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a to je da religija, politika, evropsko kolonijalno breme,
12:52
also Western foreign policy failures of recent years,
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kao i skorašnji neuspesi zapadne inostrane politike,
12:56
were all a part of the picture.
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da je sve to deo slike.
12:58
But what I was more interested in finding out was what are the human,
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No više sam bila zainteresovana za otkrivanje šta su ljudski,
13:01
what are the personal reasons
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šta su lični razlozi
13:03
why some of our young people are susceptible to groups like this.
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zbog kojih su neki mladi ljudi podložni ovim grupama.
13:08
And what really surprised me was that I found wounded human beings.
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A istinski me je iznenadilo to što sam otkrila povređena ljudska bića.
13:15
Instead of the monsters that I was looking for,
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Umesto čudovišta za kojima sam tragala,
13:18
that I was hoping to find --
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koje sam se nadala da ću naći -
13:19
quite frankly because it would have been very satisfying --
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iskreno jer bi to bilo veoma zadovoljavajuće -
13:22
I found broken people.
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pronašla sam urušene ljude.
13:25
Just like Banaz,
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Baš poput Banaz,
13:26
I found that these young men were torn apart
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otkrila sam da su ovi mladići rastrgnuti
13:30
from trying to bridge the gaps
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u pokušaju premošćavanja jaza
13:32
between their families and the countries that they were born in.
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između svojih porodica i država u kojima su rođeni.
13:37
And what I also learned is that extremist groups, terrorist groups
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Naučila sam i da ekstremističke grupe, terorističke grupe
13:40
are taking advantage of these feelings of our young people
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iskorišćavaju ova osećanja kod mladih
13:44
and channeling that -- cynically -- channeling that toward violence.
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i usmeravaju ih - cinično - usmeravaju sve to ka nasilju.
13:48
"Come to us," they say.
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"Priđite nama", kažu.
13:49
"Reject both sides, your family and your country
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"Odbacite obe strane, vaše porodice i vaše države
13:52
because they reject you.
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jer vas oni odbacuju.
13:54
For your family, their honor is more important than you
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Vašoj porodici je čast važnija od vas,
13:57
and for your country,
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a vašoj državi,
13:58
a real Norwegian, Brit or a French person will always be white and never you."
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pravi Norvežanin, Britanac ili Francuz će uvek da bude belac, nikad vi."
14:05
They're also promising our young people the things that they crave:
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Takođe obećavaju našim mladim ljudima ono za čim žude:
14:09
significance, heroism, a sense of belonging and purpose,
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značaj, herojstvo, osećaj pripadanja i svrhe,
14:13
a community that loves and accepts them.
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zajednicu koja ih voli i prihvata.
14:17
They make the powerless feel powerful.
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Nemoćnima daju osećanje moći.
14:19
The invisible and the silent are finally seen and heard.
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Nevidljivi i utišani su konačno vidljivi i saslušani.
14:26
This is what they're doing for our young people.
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Eto šta oni rade našim mladim ljudima.
14:29
Why are these groups doing this for our young people and not us?
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Zašto ove grupe to rade našim mladima, a ne mi?
14:34
The thing is,
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Radi se o tome,
14:36
I'm not trying to justify
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ne pokušavam da opravdam
14:39
or excuse any of the violence.
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ili da nađem izgovor za bilo koje nasilje.
14:43
What I am trying to say is that we have to understand
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Pokušavam da kažem da moramo da razumemo
14:46
why some of our young people are attracted to this.
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zašto neke naše mlade ljude privlači ovo.
14:51
I would like to also show you, actually --
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Takođe bih volela da vam pokažem, zapravo -
14:53
these are childhood photos of some of the guys in the film.
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ovo su slike iz detinjstva nekih od momaka iz filma.
14:59
What really struck me is that so many of them --
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Zateklo me je to da mnogi od njih -
15:02
I never would have thought this --
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nikada ne bih pomislila to -
15:04
but so many of them have absent or abusive fathers.
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ali mnogi od njih imaju odsutne ili nasilne očeve.
15:08
And several of these young guys
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A nekoliko ovih mladića
15:10
ended up finding caring and compassionate father figures
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je na kraju otkrilo brižljive i saosećajne očinske figure
15:14
within these extremist groups.
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unutar ovih ekstremističkih grupa.
15:17
I also found men brutalized by racist violence,
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Takođe sam naišla na muškarce žrtve brutalnog rasnog nasilja,
15:21
but who found a way to stop feeling like victims
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ali su pronašli način da se više ne osećaju kao žrtve
15:23
by becoming violent themselves.
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tako što su i sami postali nasilni.
15:25
In fact, I found something, to my horror, that I recognized.
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Zapravo, otkrila sam nešto, na moje zaprepašćenje, što sam prepoznala.
15:30
I found the same feelings that I felt as a 17-year-old as I fled from Norway.
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Otkrila sam ista osećanja koja sam osećala kao 17-ogodišnjakinja, bežeći iz Norveške.
15:37
The same confusion, the same sorrow,
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Istu zbunjenost, istu tugu,
15:41
the same feeling of being betrayed
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isti osećaj izdaje
15:46
and not belonging to anyone.
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i nepripadanja bilo kome.
15:50
The same feeling of being lost and torn between cultures.
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Isto osećanje izgubljenosti i rastrgnutosti između kultura.
15:54
Having said that, I did not choose destruction,
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S tim u vezi, nisam izabrala uništavanje,
15:57
I chose to pick up a camera instead of a gun.
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izabrala sam kameru umesto puške.
15:59
And the reason I did that is because of my superpower.
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A razlog tome je moja supermoć.
16:03
I could see that understanding is the answer, instead of violence.
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Videla sam da je razumevanje odgovor, umesto nasilja.
16:08
Seeing human beings
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Videti ljudska bića
16:09
with all their virtues and all their flaws
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sa svim svojim vrlinama i manama,
16:13
instead of continuing the caricatures:
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umesto održavanja karikatura:
16:15
the us and them, the villains and victims.
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mi i oni, zlikovci i žrtve.
16:18
I'd also finally come to terms with the fact
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Takođe sam se pomirila sa činjenicom
16:20
that my two cultures didn't have to be on a collision course
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da moje dve kulture ne moraju da se sudaraju,
16:24
but instead became a space where I found my own voice.
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već mogu da postanu prostor na kom pronalazim sopstveni glas.
16:27
I stopped feeling like I had to pick a side,
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Prestala sam da se osećam kao da moram da izaberem stranu,
16:30
but this took me many, many years.
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ali za to su mi bile potrebne godine i godine.
16:33
There are so many of our young people today
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Ima toliko naših mladih ljudi danas
16:35
who are struggling with these same issues,
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koji se bore sa istim ovim pitanjima,
16:37
and they're struggling with this alone.
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i s tim se bore sami.
16:41
And this leaves them open like wounds.
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A zbog toga su izloženi kao rane.
16:44
And for some, the worldview of radical Islam
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A za neke pogled na svet radikalnog islama
16:47
becomes the infection that festers in these open wounds.
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postaje zaraza koja se gnoji u ovim otvorenim ranama.
16:52
There's an African proverb that says,
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Ima jedna afrička poslovica koja glasi:
16:57
"If the young are not initiated into the village,
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"Ako mlade ne uvedete u selo,
17:00
they will burn it down just to feel its warmth."
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spaliće ga, samo da osete njegovu toplinu."
17:05
I would like to ask --
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Volela bih da pitam -
17:07
to Muslim parents and Muslim communities,
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muslimanske roditelje i muslimanske zajednice,
17:10
will you love and care for your children
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hoćete li da volite i brinete za vašu decu,
17:12
without forcing them to meet your expectations?
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a da ih ne primoravate da ispune vaša očekivanja?
17:15
Can you choose them instead of your honor?
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Možete li da odaberete njih, umesto vaše časti?
17:18
Can you understand why they're so angry and alienated
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Možete li da razumete zašto su tako besni i otuđeni
17:21
when you put your honor before their happiness?
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kad stavite svoju čast ispred njihove sreće?
17:24
Can you try to be a friend to your child
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Možete li da pokušate da budete prijatelj svom detetu
17:26
so that they can trust you
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kako bi moglo da vam veruje
17:28
and want to share with you their experiences,
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i moglo da deli sa vama svoja iskustva,
17:31
rather than having to seek it somewhere else?
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umesto da mora to da traži negde drugde.
17:34
And to our young people tempted by extremism,
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A našim mladim ljudima koje privlači ekstremizam:
17:38
can you acknowledge that your rage is fueled by pain?
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možete li da priznate da je vaš bes pokrenut bolom?
17:43
Will you find the strength to resist those cynical old men
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Hoćete li da nađete snage da odolite tim ciničnim starim muškarcima
17:46
who want to use your blood for their own profits?
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koji žele vašom krvlju da ostvare sopstveni profit?
17:50
Can you find a way to live?
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Možete li da pronađete način da živite?
17:53
Can you see that the sweetest revenge
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Možete li da uvidite da je najslađa osveta
17:55
is for you to live a happy, full and free life?
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da vi živite srećne, ispunjene i slobodne živote?
17:59
A life defined by you and nobody else.
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Živote koje određujete vi i niko drugi.
18:02
Why do you want to become just another dead Muslim kid?
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Zašto želite da postanete tek još jedno mrtvo muslimansko dete?
18:06
And for the rest of us, when will we start listening to our young people?
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A što se tiče nas ostalih: kada ćemo da počnemo da slušamo naše mlade?
18:12
How can we support them
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Kako da ih podržimo
18:13
in redirecting their pain into something more constructive?
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da bi preusmerili bol u nešto konstruktivnije?
18:18
They think we don't like them.
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Misle da nam se ne sviđaju.
18:20
They think we don't care what happens to them.
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Misle da ne marimo šta će da im se desi.
18:22
They think we don't accept them.
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Misle da ih ne prihvatamo.
18:24
Can we find a way to make them feel differently?
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Možemo li da pronađemo način da se osećaju drugačije?
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What will it take for us to see them and notice them
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Šta nam je potrebno da ih vidimo i prepoznamo
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before they become either the victims or the perpetrators of violence?
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pre nego što postanu bilo žrtve ili počinioci nasilja?
18:37
Can we make ourselves care about them and consider them to be our own?
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Možemo li se naterati da brinemo za njih i da ih smatramo našima?
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And not just be outraged when the victims of violence look like ourselves?
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A da ne budemo prosto zgroženi kad žrtve nasilja liče na nas?
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Can we find a way to reject hatred and heal the divisions between us?
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Možemo li da nađemo način da odbacimo mržnju i zacelimo podele između nas?
18:50
The thing is we cannot afford to give up on each other or on our kids,
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Radi se o tome da ne možemo da priuštimo da odustanemo jedni od drugih i naše dece,
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even if they've given up on us.
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čak iako ona odustanu od nas.
18:56
We are all in this together.
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Svi smo u ovome zajedno.
18:58
And in the long term, revenge and violence will not work against extremists.
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A na duže staze, osveta i nasilje neće funkcionisati protiv ekstremista.
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Terrorists want us to huddle in our houses in fear,
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Teroristi žele da budemo šćućureni od straha u našim kućama,
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closing our doors and our hearts.
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da zatvaramo naša vrata i srca.
19:11
They want us to tear open more wounds in our societies
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Žele da razjapimo još rana u našim društvima
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so that they can use them to spread their infection more widely.
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kako bi mogli da ih koriste i što više šire svoju zarazu.
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They want us to become like them:
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Žele da postanemo poput njih:
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intolerant, hateful and cruel.
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netolerantni, puni mržnje i okrutni.
19:26
The day after the Paris attacks,
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Dan nakon napada u Parizu,
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a friend of mine sent this photo of her daughter.
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moja prijateljica je poslala ovu sliku njene kćerke.
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This is a white girl and an Arab girl.
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Ovo je bela devojčica i arapska devojčica.
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They're best friends.
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Najbolje su prijateljice.
19:36
This image is the kryptonite for extremists.
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Ova slika je kriptonit za ekstremiste.
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These two little girls with their superpowers
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Ove dve devojčice sa svojim supermoćima
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are showing the way forward
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nam pokazuju put napred
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towards a society that we need to build together,
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ka društvu koje moramo zajedno da izgradimo,
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a society that includes and supports,
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društvu koje uključuje i podržava,
19:56
rather than rejects our kids.
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umesto da odbija našu decu.
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Thank you for listening.
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Hvala vam na pažnji.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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