Beverly + Dereck Joubert: Life lessons from big cats

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Translator: Michal Ferenc Reviewer: Janka Pazurikova
00:15
Beverly Joubert: We are truly passionate
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Beverly Joubert: Africká divočina
00:17
about the African wilderness
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a jej ochrana je
00:19
and protecting the African wilderness,
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našou skutočnou vášňou.
00:21
and so what we've done
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A preto sme sa sústredili
00:23
is we've focused on iconic cats.
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na ikonické mačkovité šelmy.
00:26
And I know,
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Viem,
00:28
in the light of human suffering and poverty
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vo svetle ľudského utrpenia a chudoby
00:30
and even climate change,
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dokonca aj klimatických zmien,
00:32
one would wonder,
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sa niekto môže čudovať,
00:34
why worry about a few cats?
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prečo si robiť starosti pre pár mačiek?
00:37
Well today we're here
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Dnes sme tu,
00:39
to share with you a message that we have learned
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aby sme sa s vami podelili o to, čo sme sa naučili
00:41
from a very important and special character --
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od veľmi dôležitej a neobyčajnej postavy --
00:44
this leopard.
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od tohoto leoparda.
00:46
Dereck Joubert: Well, our lives have basically been
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Dereck Joubert: Naše životy sa v podstate podobali
00:49
like a super long episode of "CSI" --
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super dlhej epizóde „CSI“ --
00:51
something like 28 years.
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po dobu asi 28 rokov.
00:54
In essence, what we've done
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Čo sme v podstate robili, bolo
00:56
is we've studied the science, we've looked at the behavior,
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štúdium vedy, pozorovanie správania,
00:58
we've seen over 2,000 kills
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videli sme vyše 2000 zabití
01:00
by these amazing animals.
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týmito úžasnými zvieratami.
01:03
But one of the things that science really lets us down on
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Avšak jedna vec, v ktorej nás veda zrádza,
01:06
is that personality,
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je osobnosť,
01:08
that individual personality that these animals have.
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individuálna osobnosť, ktorú tieto zvieratá majú.
01:12
And here's a prime example.
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A tu je najlepší príklad.
01:14
We found this leopard in a 2,000-year-old
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Tohoto leoparda sme našli v 2000 rokov starom
01:16
baobab tree in Africa,
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baobabe v Afrike,
01:18
the same tree that we found her mother in
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v tom istom ako aj jej mamu
01:20
and her grandmother.
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a starú mamu.
01:22
And she took us on a journey
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A vzala nás na cestu
01:25
and revealed something very special to us --
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a vyjavila nám niečo pre nás mimoriadne --
01:28
her own daughter, eight days old.
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svoju vlastnú osem dňovú dcéru.
01:30
And the minute we found this leopard,
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Vo chvíli, keď sme objavili tohoto leoparda,
01:32
we realized that we needed to move in,
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sme si uvedomili, že sa musíme prisťahovať.
01:34
and so we basically stayed with this leopard
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V podstate sme s týmto leopardom zostali
01:36
for the next four-and-a-half years --
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počas nasledujúceho štyri a pol roka --
01:38
following her every day,
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nasledovali sme ju každý deň,
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getting to know her,
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postupne sme odhaľovali
01:42
that individual personality of hers,
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jej osobnosť,
01:44
and really coming to know her.
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skutočne sme ju spoznávali.
01:46
Now I'm destined
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Som predurčený na to,
01:49
to spend a lot of time
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aby som strávil mnoho času
01:51
with some unique,
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s unikátnymi,
01:53
very, very special,
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veľmi, veľmi neobyčajnými,
01:55
individualistic
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jedinečnými
01:57
and often seductive female characters.
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a často zvodnými samicami.
02:00
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
02:02
Beverly's clearly one of them,
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Beverly je samozrejme jednou z nich,
02:05
and this little leopard, Legadema, is another,
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a tento malý leopard, Legadema, je druhou,
02:08
and she changed our lives.
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a ona zmenila naše životy.
02:10
BJ: Well we certainly did spend a lot of time with her --
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BJ: Rozhodne sme s ňou strávili mnoho času --
02:13
in fact, more time than even her mother did.
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v skutočnosti dokonca viac ako jej matka.
02:15
When her mother would go off hunting,
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Keď jej matka odišla na lov,
02:17
we would stay and film.
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my sme zostali a natáčali.
02:19
And early on, a lightning bolt hit a tree
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Ešte na začiatku udrel do stromu blesk,
02:22
20 paces away from us.
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len 20 krokov od nás.
02:24
It was frightening,
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Bolo to desivé.
02:26
and it showered us with leaves and a pungent smell.
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Pokropilo nás to listami a štipľavým zápachom.
02:29
And of course, we were stunned for a while,
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Samozrejme sme chvíľu len stáli,
02:31
but when we managed to get our wits about us,
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ale keď sme sa pozbierali,
02:34
we looked at it and said, "My gosh,
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pozreli sme sa a povedali: „Bože,
02:36
what's going to happen with that little cub?
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čo sa len stane s tým mláďaťom?
02:38
She's probably going to forever associate
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Pravdepodobne si navždy spojí
02:40
that deafening crash with us."
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ten ohlušujúci tresk s nami.“
02:43
Well, we needn't have worried.
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Nemuseli sme sa obávať.
02:45
She came charging out of the thicket straight towards us,
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Vyšla z húštiny priamo smerom k nám,
02:48
sat next to us, shivering,
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posadila sa vedľa nás, chvejúc sa,
02:51
with her back towards Dereck, and looking out.
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chrbtom k Dereckovi a rozhliadala sa.
02:54
And actually from that day on,
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V skutočnosti sa od toho dňa
02:56
she's been comfortable with us.
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s nami cítila príjemne.
02:58
So we felt that that day
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Cítili sme, že tento deň
03:00
was the day that she really earned her name.
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bol dňom, keď si naozaj zaslúžila svoje meno.
03:02
We called her Legadema,
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Volali sme ju Legadema,
03:04
which means, "light from the sky."
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čo znamená „svetlo z neba“.
03:07
DJ: Now we've found these individualisms
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DJ: Objavili sme tieto individuality
03:09
in all sorts of animals,
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u mnohých druhov zvierat,
03:11
in particular in the cats.
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obzvlášť u mačkovitých.
03:13
This particular one is called Eetwidomayloh,
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Konkrétne tento sa volá Eetwidomayloh,
03:15
"he who greets with fire,"
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„Ten, čo sa víta s ohňom“.
03:17
and you can just see that about him, you know -- that's his character.
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A môžete to na ňom proste vidieť – je to jeho povaha.
03:20
But only by getting up close to these animals
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Avšak len priblížením sa k týmto zvieratám
03:22
and spending time with them
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a trávením času s nimi
03:24
can we actually even reach out
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sa môžeme s nimi zoznámiť,
03:26
and dig out these personal characters that they have.
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a objaviť ich povahy.
03:28
BJ: But through our investigation,
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BJ: Behom nášho výskumu,
03:30
we have to seek the wildest places in Africa.
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vyhľadávame najdivokejšie miesta v Afrike.
03:33
And right now this is in the Okavango Delta
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A toto je v delte Okavanga
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in Botswana.
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v Botswane.
03:37
Yes, it is swamp. We live in the swamp in a tent,
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Áno, je to močiar. Žijeme v močiari pod stanom.
03:40
but I must tell you, every day is exhilarating.
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Ale musím vám povedať, že každý deň je úžasný.
03:43
But also, our hearts are in our throats
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Ale srdcia máme
03:45
a huge amount of the time,
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často v krku,
03:47
because we're driving through water,
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pretože jazdíme cez vodu,
03:49
and it's an unknown territory.
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čo je neznáme územie.
03:51
But we're really there
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Ale skutočne sme tam,
03:53
seeking and searching and filming the iconic cats.
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hľadáme a pátrame a natáčame ikonické mačkovité šelmy.
03:56
DJ: Now one of the big things, of course,
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DJ: Teraz jedna z veľkých vecí.
03:58
everybody knows that cats hate water,
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Všetci vedia, že mačky neznášajú vodu.
04:01
and so this was a real revelation for us.
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Toto bol pre nás skutočný objav.
04:03
And we could only find this by pushing ourselves,
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Mohli sme ho urobiť len tak, že sme sa prinútili
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by going where no sane person should go --
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ísť tam, kam by žiadny súdny človek nešiel --
04:11
not without some prompting, by the way, from Beverly --
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mimochodom, nebolo to bez Beverlinho upozornenia --
04:14
and just pushing the envelope,
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proste priekopnícky,
04:16
going out there, pushing our vehicle, pushing ourselves.
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išli sme tam, tlačili sme dopredu naše vozidlo, nútili sme seba.
04:19
But we've managed to find that these lions
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Avšak podarilo sa nám zistiť, že tieto levy
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are 15 percent bigger than any others,
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sú o 15 percent väčšie ako akékoľvek iné,
04:23
and they specialize in hunting buffalo in the water.
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a špecializujú sa na lov byvolov vo vode.
04:27
BJ: And then of course, the challenge
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BJ: A potom je samozrejme výzvou
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is knowing when to turn around.
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vedieť, kedy sa obrátiť naspäť.
04:32
We don't always get that right,
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Nie vždy sa nám to podarilo.
04:34
and on this particular day,
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V tento konkrétny deň,
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we seriously underestimated the depth.
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sme vážne podcenili hĺbku.
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We got deeper and deeper,
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Potápali sme sa hlbšie a hlbšie,
04:41
until it was at Dereck's chest-height.
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až to bolo po Dereckovu hruď.
04:43
Well then we hit a deep depression,
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Potom sme narazili na hlbokú priehlbinu,
04:46
and we seriously submerged the vehicle.
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a poriadne sme potopili vozidlo.
04:49
We actually managed to drown
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V skutočnosti sa nám podarilo utopiť
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two million dollars' worth of camera gear.
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filmárske vybavenie za 2 milióny dolárov.
04:54
We drowned our pride, I must tell you,
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Utopili sme našu pýchu, hovorím vám,
04:56
which was really serious,
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bolo to naozaj vážne,
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and we seized the engine.
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a zadreli sme motor.
05:01
DJ: And of course, one of the rules that we have in the vehicle
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DJ: Samozrejme, jedným pravidlom vo vozidle je,
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is that he who drowns the vehicle
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že ten, kto potopí vozidlo,
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gets to swim with the crocodiles.
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musí plávať s krokodílmi.
05:07
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
05:09
You will notice also that all of these images here
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Tiež si všimnite, že všetky tieto zábery
05:11
are taken from the top angle by Beverly --
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urobila z horného uhla Beverly --
05:13
the dry top angle, by the way.
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mimochodom, zo suchého horného uhla.
05:15
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
05:18
But all the places we get stuck in really have great views.
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Ale výhľady z miest, kde sme sa zasekli, sú veľkolepé.
05:21
And it wasn't a moment, and these lions came back towards us,
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Netrvalo to ani chvíľku a levy sa vracali k nám,
05:24
and Beverly was able to get a great photograph.
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a Beverly mohla urobiť ohromnú fotku.
05:26
BJ: But we truly do
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BJ: Skutočne trávime
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spend day and night
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dni a noci pokúšajúc sa
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trying to capture unique footage.
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zachytiť unikátne zábery.
05:32
And 20 years ago,
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Pred 20-timi rokmi
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we did a film called "Eternal Enemies"
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sme urobili film s názvom „Veční nepriatelia“,
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where we managed to capture
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kde sa nám podarilo zachytiť
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this unusual disturbing behavior across two species --
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toto nezvyčajné, znepokojujúce správanie dvoch druhov --
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lions and hyenas.
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levov a hyen.
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And surprisingly, it became a cult film.
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Prekvapujúco sa to stalo kultovým filmom.
05:46
And we can only work that out
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Môžeme si domyslieť,
05:48
as people were seeing parallels
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že ľudia videli paralely
05:50
between the thuggish side of nature
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medzi hrdloreznou stránkou prírody
05:53
and gang warfare.
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a vojnou gangov.
05:55
DJ: It was amazing, because you can see that this lion
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DJ: Bolo to úžasné, pretože tento lev
05:58
is doing exactly what his name,
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robí presne to, čo predstavuje
06:00
Eetwidomayloh, represents.
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jeho meno Eetwidomayloh.
06:02
He's focused on this hyena,
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Sústreďuje sa na túto hyenu
06:04
and he is going to get it.
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a ide sa jej zmocniť.
06:07
(Animal sounds)
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(Zvieracie zvuky)
06:11
But that's, I think, what this is all about,
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Myslím, že o tom to celé vlastne je,
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is that these individuals have these personalities and characters.
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tieto jedince majú osobnosti a povahy.
06:17
But for us to get them, not only do we push ourselves,
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Ale aby sme ich pochopili, nielenže sa premáhame,
06:20
but we live by certain rules of engagement,
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ale aj žijeme podľa istých pravidiel,
06:23
which mean we can't interfere.
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čiže nemôžeme zasahovať.
06:25
This sort of behavior has been going on
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Takéto správanie tu bolo
06:27
for three, four, five million years,
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tri, štyri, päť miliónov rokov,
06:29
and we can't step in and say, "That's wrong, and that's right."
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nemôžeme zakročiť a povedať "Toto je nesprávne, toto správne."
06:32
But that's not always easy for us.
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Nie je to však pre nás vždy ľahké.
06:35
BJ: So, as Dereck says,
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BJ: Ako hovorí Dereck,
06:37
we have to work through extremes --
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musíme zdolať extrémy --
06:39
extreme temperatures, push ourselves at night.
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extrémne teploty, premáhať sa v noci.
06:41
Sleep deprivation is extreme.
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Nedostatok spánku je extrémny.
06:44
We're on the edge
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Sme na hrane
06:46
through a large part of the time.
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veľmi často.
06:48
But, for 10 years, we tried to capture
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10 rokov sme sa pokúšali zachytiť
06:50
lions and elephants together --
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levy a slony pohromade --
06:53
and never ever managed
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a nikdy sa nepodarilo
06:55
until this particular night.
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až do tejto osobitej noci.
06:58
And I have to tell you
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Musím Vám povedať,
07:00
that it was a disturbing night for me.
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že to pre mňa bola ťažká noc.
07:02
I had tears rolling down my cheeks.
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Slzy sa mi kotúľali dole lícami.
07:04
I was shaking with anxiety,
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Triasla som sa od úzkosti.
07:07
but I knew that [I had] to capture something
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Vedela som však, že zachytávame niečo
07:09
that had never been seen before, had never been documented.
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nikdy predtým nevídané, nikdy nezdokumentované.
07:12
And I do believe you should stay with us.
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Som presvedčená, že by ste mali s nami zostať.
07:16
DJ: The amazing thing about these moments --
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DJ: Ohromujúce na týchto chvíľach je --
07:18
and this is probably a highlight of our career --
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a je to asi vrchol našej kariéry --
07:21
is that you never know how it's going to end.
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že nikdy neviete, ako to skončí.
07:30
Many people believe, in fact,
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Mnohí ľudia v skutočnosti veria,
07:32
that death begins in the eyes, not in the heart,
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že smrť začína v očiach, nie v srdci,
07:34
not in the lungs,
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nie v pľúcach.
07:36
and that's when people give up hope,
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Vtedy sa ľudia vzdajú nádeje
07:38
or when any life form gives up hope.
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alebo akákoľvek forma života sa vzdá nádeje.
07:40
And you can see the start of it here.
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Tu môžete vidieť jej začiatok.
07:44
This elephant, against overwhelming odds,
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Tento slon proti drvivej prevahe,
07:47
simply gives up hope.
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jednoducho stráca nádej.
08:01
But by the same token,
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Rovnako však môžete
08:04
you can get your hope back again.
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nádej získať zas naspäť.
08:08
So just when you think it's all over, something else happens,
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Práve keď si myslíte, že je po všetkom, stane sa niečo iné,
08:11
some spark gets into you,
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vzbĺkne vo vás iskra,
08:13
some sort of will to fight --
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vôľa bojovať --
08:16
that iron will that we all have,
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železná vôľa, akú všetci máme,
08:18
that this elephant has,
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akú má tento slon,
08:20
that conservation has, that big cats have.
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akú majú veľké mačky, akú majú ochranári.
08:23
Everything has that will to survive,
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Všetko má túto vôľu prežiť,
08:26
to fight, to push through that mental barrier
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bojovať, premôcť tú mentálnu bariéru
08:28
and to keep going.
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a stále pokračovať.
08:31
And for us, in many ways,
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Pre nás sa v mnohých smeroch
08:33
this elephant has become
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tento slon stal
08:35
a symbol of inspiration for us,
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symbolom inšpirácie
08:37
a symbol of that hope as we go forward in our work.
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a symbolom tej nádeje v našej pokračujúcej práci.
08:40
(Applause)
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(Potlesk)
08:51
Now back to the leopard.
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Teraz späť k leopardovi.
08:53
We were spending so much time with this leopard
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Trávili sme s týmto leopardom tak veľa času
08:55
and getting to understand her individualism,
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a porozumievali jej jedinečnosti,
08:57
her personal character,
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jej osobným črtám,
08:59
that maybe we were taking it a little bit far.
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že sme to možno trochu prehnali.
09:02
We were perhaps taking her for granted,
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Možno sme ju pokladali za samozrejmosť,
09:04
and maybe she didn't like that that much.
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čo sa jej až tak nepáčilo.
09:06
This is about couples working together,
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Je to o práci v páre
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and so I do need to say that within the vehicle
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a musím povedať, že vo vozidle
09:11
we have quite strict territories, Beverly and I.
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máme Beverly a ja dosť striktné teritóriá.
09:14
Beverly sits on the one side
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Beverly sedí na jednej strane,
09:16
where all her camera gear is,
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kde je všetko kamerové vybavenie
09:18
and I'm on the other side where my space is.
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a ja som na druhej strane, kde je moje miesto.
09:21
These are precious to us, these divides.
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Toto rozdelenie je pre nás cenné.
09:24
BJ: But when this little cub saw
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BJ: Ale keď toto mláďa videlo,
09:26
that I had vacated my seat
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že som opustila svoje miesto
09:28
and climbed to the back to get some camera gear,
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a vliezla dozadu pre nejaké vybavenie,
09:30
she came in like a curious cat
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vošla ako zvedavá mačka
09:32
to come and investigate.
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na prieskum.
09:34
It was phenomenal, and we felt grateful
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Bolo to fenomenálne a cítili sme sa vďační,
09:37
that she trusted us to that extent.
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že nám do takej miery dôverovala.
09:39
But at the same time, we were concerned
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Súčasne sme sa však obávali,
09:41
that if she created this as a habit
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že ak sa to pre ňu stane zvykom
09:43
and jumped into somebody else's car,
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a skočila by niekomu inému do auta,
09:45
it might not turn out the same way --
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nemusí to vypáliť rovnako --
09:47
she might get shot for that.
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môžu ju za to zastreliť.
09:49
So we knew we had to react quickly.
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Vedeli sme, že musíme zareagovať rýchlo.
09:52
And the only way we thought we could
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Mysleli sme, že jediný spôsob
09:55
without scaring her
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bez toho, aby sme ju vydesili
09:57
is to try and simulate a growl like her mother would make --
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je pokúsiť sa napodobniť vrčanie jej matky --
09:59
a hiss and a sound.
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syčanie a hluk.
10:01
So Dereck turned on the heater fan in the car --
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Dereck zapol ventilátor kúrenia v aute --
10:03
very innovative.
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veľmi inovatívne.
10:05
DJ: It was the only way for me to save the marriage,
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DJ: Bol to jediný spôsob ako zachrániť manželstvo,
10:07
because Beverly felt she was being replaced, you see.
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pretože Beverly sa cítila, akoby som ju vymenil, ako vidíte.
10:09
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
10:12
But really and truly, this was how
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Ale toto bol spôsob,
10:14
this little leopard was displaying
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ako tento malý leopard prejavoval
10:16
her individual personality.
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svoju individuálnu osobnosť.
10:18
But nothing prepared us
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Avšak nič nás nepripravilo
10:20
for what happened next in our relationship with her,
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na to, čo sa ďalej stalo v našom vzťahu s ňou,
10:22
when she started hunting.
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keď začala loviť.
10:24
BJ: And on this first hunt, we truly were excited.
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BJ: Na prvom love sme skutočne boli vzrušení.
10:27
It was like watching a graduation ceremony.
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Bolo to ako sledovať promóciu.
10:29
We felt like we were surrogate parents.
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Cítili sme sa ako náhradní rodičia.
10:31
And of course, we knew now
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Vtedy sme pravdaže vedeli,
10:33
that she was going to survive.
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že prežije.
10:35
But only when we saw the tiny baby baboon
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Avšak len keď sme videli maličkého paviána
10:38
clinging to the mother's fur
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túliaceho sa k matkinmu kožuchu,
10:40
did we realize that something very unique
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zistili sme, že sa s Legademou
10:42
was taking place here with Legadema.
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deje niečo veľmi neobvyklé.
10:45
And of course, the baby baboon was so innocent,
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Mladý pavián bol samozrejme také neviniatko,
10:48
it didn't turn and run.
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neotočil sa a neušiel.
10:50
So what we watched
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Čiže čo sme pozorovali
10:52
over the next couple of hours
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behom nasledujúcich niekoľkých hodín
10:54
was very unique.
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bolo veľmi neobvyklé.
10:57
It was absolutely amazing
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Bolo to absolútne úžasné,
10:59
when she picked it up to safety,
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keď ho vzala do bezpečia,
11:01
protecting it from the hyena.
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chrániac ho pred hyenou.
11:04
And over the next five hours,
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Počas nasledujúcich piatich hodín
11:07
she took care of it.
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sa o neho starala.
11:09
We realized that we actually don't know everything,
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Zistili sme, že vlastne nevieme všetko
11:12
and that nature is so unpredictable,
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a príroda je tak nepredvídateľná,
11:16
we have to be open at all times.
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že musíme byť stále otvorení.
11:19
DJ: Okay, so she was a little bit rough.
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DJ: OK, bola trochu drsná.
11:21
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
11:26
But in fact,
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Čo sme sledovali,
11:30
what we were seeing here was interesting.
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bolo v skutočnosti veľmi zaujímavé.
11:33
Because she is a cub wanting to play,
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Pretože je to mláďa, ktoré sa chce hrať,
11:36
but she was also a predator needing to kill,
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ale aj predátor s potrebou zabíjať,
11:39
and yet conflicted in some way,
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avšak nejakým spôsobom
11:41
because she was also an emerging mother.
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sa v nej objavovala aj matka.
11:44
She had this maternal instinct,
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Mala materský inštinkt,
11:46
much like a young girl on her way to womanhood,
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podobne ako mladé dievča na ceste k dospelosti.
11:50
and so this really took us to this new level
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Posunulo nás to na novú úroveň
11:53
of understanding that personality.
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porozumenia tejto osobnosti.
11:58
BJ: And of course, through the night, they lay together.
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BJ: V noci samozrejme ležali spolu.
12:01
They ended up sleeping for hours.
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Spali hodiny.
12:03
But I have to tell you --
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Musím vám povedať --
12:05
everybody always asks, "What happened to the baby baboon?"
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každý sa vždy pýta: "Čo sa stalo s tým paviánom?"
12:07
It did die,
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Zahynulo.
12:09
and we suspect it was from the freezing winter nights.
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Domnievame sa, že za to mohli mrazivé zimné noci.
12:13
DJ: So at this stage, I guess,
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DJ: Myslím, že v tejto fáze
12:15
we had very, very firm ideas
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sme mali veľmi, veľmi pevné predstavy
12:17
on what conservation meant.
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o význame ochrany prírody.
12:19
We had to deal with these individual personalities.
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Museli sme zaobchádzať s týmito individuálnymi osobnosťami.
12:22
We had to deal with them with respect
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Museli sme s nimi zaobchádzať s rešpektom
12:25
and celebrate them.
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a oslavovať ich.
12:27
And so we, with the National Geographic, formed the Big Cats Initiative
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A tak sme spolu s National Geographic založili "The Big Cats Initiative",
12:30
to march forward into conservation,
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aby sme sa pustili do ochrany
12:32
taking care of the big cats that we loved --
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a starali sa o veľké mačky, ktoré milujeme --
12:34
and then had an opportunity to look back over the last 50 years
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a potom sa mohli obzrieť na uplynulých 50 rokov
12:37
to see how well we had all collectively been doing.
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a vidieť, ako dobre sa nám všetkým spolu darilo.
12:40
So when Beverly and I were born,
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Keď sme sa Beverly a ja narodili,
12:42
there were 450,000 lions,
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žilo 450 000 levov,
12:44
and today there are 20,000.
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dnes ich je 20 000.
12:47
Tigers haven't fared any better --
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Tigrom sa nedarilo o nič lepšie --
12:49
45,000
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45 000
12:51
down to maybe 3,000.
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na možno 3000.
12:53
BJ: And then cheetahs have crashed
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BJ: Gepardy padli
12:55
all the way down to 12,000.
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až na 12 000.
12:57
Leopards have plummeted
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Leopardy zleteli
12:59
from 700,000
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zo 700 000
13:01
down to a mere 50,000.
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na iba 50 000.
13:03
Now in the extraordinary time
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Počas toho výnimočného obdobia,
13:05
that we have worked with Legadema --
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keď sme pracovali s Legademou,
13:07
which is really over a five-year period --
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čo je v skutočnosti vyše päťročné obdobie --
13:09
10,000 leopards were legally shot
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bolo lovcami na safari legálne zastrelených
13:12
by safari hunters.
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10 000 leopardov.
13:14
And that's not the only leopards
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A to nie sú jediné leopardy
13:16
that were being killed through that period.
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zabité počas tohoto obdobia.
13:18
There's an immense amount of poaching as well,
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Pytliactvo má tiež nesmierny rozsah.
13:21
and so possibly the same amount.
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Možno dosahuje rovnaké množstvo.
13:23
It's simply not sustainable.
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Jednoducho to nie je udržateľné.
13:25
We admire them,
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Obdivujeme ich
13:27
and we fear them,
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a bojíme sa ich.
13:29
and yet, as man, we want to steal their power.
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A aj tak im my ľudia chceme ukradnúť ich moc.
13:34
It used to be the time
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Boli časy,
13:36
where only kings wore a leopard skin,
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keď nosili leopardiu kožu len králi,
13:39
but now throughout rituals and ceremonies,
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ale teraz ich nosia na rituáloch a ceremóniách
13:41
traditional healers and ministers.
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aj tradiční liečitelia a duchovní.
13:44
And of course, looking at this lion paw
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Pohľad na túto z kože stiahnutú
13:47
that has been skinned,
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leviu labu
13:49
it eerily reminds me
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mi desivo pripomína
13:51
of a human hand,
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ľudskú ruku.
13:53
and that's ironic, because their fate is in our hands.
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Je to ironické, pretože ich osud je v našich rukách.
13:56
DJ: There's a burgeoning bone trade.
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DJ: Obchod s kosťami rozkvitá.
13:58
South Africa just released some lion bones onto the market.
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Južná Afrika práve uvoľnila nejaké levie kosti na trh.
14:01
Lion bones and tiger bones look exactly the same,
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Levie a tigrie kosti vypadajú úplne rovnako,
14:04
and so in a stroke, the lion bone industry
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a tak priemysel s levími kosťami razom
14:07
is going to wipe out all the tigers.
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vymetie všetky tigre.
14:10
So we have a real problem here,
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Čiže tu máme skutočný problém,
14:12
no more so than the lions do, the male lions.
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ale nie väčší ako levy, leví samci.
14:15
So the 20,000 lion figure that you just saw
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Údaj 20 000 levov, ktorý ste práve videli
14:18
is actually a red herring,
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je v skutočnosti zavádzajúci,
14:20
because there may be 3,000 or 4,000 male lions,
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pretože žije asi tri- alebo štyritisíc levích samcov
14:23
and they all are actually
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a tie sú v skutočnosti nakazené
14:25
infected with the same disease.
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tou istou chorobou.
14:27
I call it complacency --
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Nazývam ju samoľúbosť --
14:29
our complacency.
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naša samoľúbosť.
14:31
Because there's a sport, there's an activity going on
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Pretože existuje šport, je tu aktivita,
14:34
that we're all aware of, that we condone.
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ktorú sme všetci prehliadali.
14:40
And that's probably because we haven't seen it
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Pravdepodobne je to tým, že sme ju nevnímali
14:42
like we are today.
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tak ako dnes.
14:46
BJ: And you have to know
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BJ: Mali by ste vedieť,
14:48
that, when a male lion is killed,
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že zabitím samca
14:50
it completely disrupts the whole pride.
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sa úplne naruší celá svorka.
14:53
A new male comes into the area
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Do oblasti prichádza nový samec
14:55
and takes over the pride,
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a preberá svorku,
14:57
and, of course, first of all kills all the cubs
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a, pravdaže, najprv zabije všetky mláďatá,
15:00
and possibly some of the females that are defending their cubs.
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prípadne aj samice obraňujúce svoje mladé.
15:03
So we've estimated
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Odhadli sme,
15:05
that between 20 [and] 30 lions are killed
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že je zabitých 20 až 30 levov,
15:08
when one lion is hanging on a wall
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keď niekde vo vzdialenom mieste
15:11
somewhere in a far-off place.
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visí na stene jeden lev.
15:13
DJ: So what our investigations have shown
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DJ: Naše výskumy teda ukázali,
15:15
is that these lions are essential.
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že tieto levy sú nepostrádateľné.
15:17
They're essential to the habitat.
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Sú nepostrádateľné pre svoje prostredie.
15:19
If they disappear,
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Ak vymiznú,
15:21
whole ecosystems in Africa disappear.
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v Afrike vymiznú celé ekosystémy.
15:24
There's an 80-billion-dollar-a-year
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Ročne prúdi do Afriky
15:26
ecotourism revenue stream into Africa.
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80 miliárd dolárov z ekoturizmu.
15:29
So this is not just a concern about lions;
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Netýka sa to teda len levov,
15:32
it's a concern about communities in Africa as well.
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ale aj komunít v Afrike.
15:35
If they disappear, all of that goes away.
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Ak vymiznú, všetko toto zmizne s nimi.
15:38
But what I'm more concerned about in many ways
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Čo ma však znepokojuje viac je,
15:41
is that, as we de-link ourselves from nature,
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že tým, ako sa odpútavame od prírody,
15:44
as we de-link ourselves spiritually
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ako sa od týchto zvierat
15:46
from these animals,
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odpútavame duchovne
15:48
we lose hope,
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strácame nádej,
15:51
we lose that spiritual connection,
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strácame duchovné spojenie,
15:54
our dignity, that thing within us
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svoju dôstojnosť, tú vec v nás,
15:57
that keeps us connected to the planet.
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ktorá nás udržuje v spojení s planétou.
15:59
BJ: So you have to know, looking into the eyes
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BJ: Musíte si práve teraz uvedomiť,
16:02
of lions and leopards right now,
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pozerajúc sa do očí levov a leopardov,
16:05
it is all about critical awareness.
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že je to o kritickom vedomí.
16:07
And so what we are doing,
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A tak vo februári,
16:09
in February, we're bringing out a film called "The Last Lion,"
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prinášame film s názvom "Posledný lev".
16:12
and "The Last Lion" is exactly
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"Posledný lev" je presne to,
16:14
what is happening right now.
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čo sa práve teraz deje.
16:16
That is the situation we're in --
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Je to situácia, v akej sa nachádzame --
16:18
the last lions.
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posledné levy.
16:20
That is, if we don't take action and do something,
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Čiže ak niečo nepodnikneme,
16:22
these plains will be completely devoid
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pláne budú úplne
16:24
of big cats,
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bez veľkých mačiek,
16:26
and then, in turn, everything else will disappear.
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a následne všetko ostatné vymizne.
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And simply, if we can't protect them,
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Jednoducho ak ich nevieme ochrániť,
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we're going to have a job protecting ourselves as well.
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budeme musieť ochraňovať aj seba.
16:34
DJ: And in fact, that original thing that we spoke about
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DJ: Vec, o ktorej sme pôvodne hovorili
16:37
and designed our lives by --
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a podľa nej plánovali svoje životy --
16:39
that conservation was all about respect
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že ochrana je o rešpekte
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and celebration --
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a oslavovaní --
16:43
is probably true. That's really what it needs.
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je pravdepodobne pravdivá; naozaj je to to potrebné.
16:46
We need it. We respect and celebrate each other
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Potrebujeme to. Rešpektujeme sa navzájom
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as a man and a woman, as a community
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ako muž a žena, ako komunita
16:52
and as part of this planet,
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a ako súčasť tejto planéty,
16:54
and we need to continue that.
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a musíme v tom pokračovať.
16:56
And Legadema?
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A Legadema?
16:58
Well we can report, in fact,
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No, môžeme povedať,
17:00
that we're grandparents.
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že sme starí rodičia.
17:02
(Laughter)
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(Smiech)
17:04
BJ/DJ: Thank you very much.
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BJ/DJ: Ďakujeme.
17:06
(Applause)
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