Beverly + Dereck Joubert: Life lessons from big cats

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๋ฒˆ์—ญ: Min-Hyeok Lee ๊ฒ€ํ† : han soo yeon
00:15
Beverly Joubert: We are truly passionate
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ ์ฃผ๋ฒ„ํŠธ: ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ถ€๋ถ€๋Š”
00:17
about the African wilderness
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ํ™ฉ์•ผ์™€
00:19
and protecting the African wilderness,
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๊ทธ ๊ณณ์„ ์ง€ํ‚ค๋Š”๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์—ด์ •์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:21
and so what we've done
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„
00:23
is we've focused on iconic cats.
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๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ณผ ๋งน์ˆ˜๋“ค์„ ์ทจ์žฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:26
And I know,
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์–ด๋–ค๋ถ„๋“ค์€
00:28
in the light of human suffering and poverty
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณ ํ†ต๋ฐ›๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋‚œ์— ํ—ˆ๋•์ด๋ฉฐ
00:30
and even climate change,
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๊ธฐํ›„๋ณ€ํ™”๋กœ ํ˜ผ๋ˆ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ
00:32
one would wonder,
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์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ค์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:34
why worry about a few cats?
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'์™œ ์–ผ๋งˆ ๋˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š๋Š” ๋งน์ˆ˜๋“ค์„ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๋Š”๊ฑฐ์ง€?'
00:37
Well today we're here
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
00:39
to share with you a message that we have learned
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค๊ป˜ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ฃผ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ณ  ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๋™๋ฌผ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ
00:41
from a very important and special character --
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๋ฐฐ์›Œ์˜จ ๋ฉ”์„ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ ๋ณผ๊นŒ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:44
this leopard.
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๊ทธ ๋™๋ฌผ์€ ํ‘œ๋ฒ”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:46
Dereck Joubert: Well, our lives have basically been
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ ์ฃผ๋ฒ„ํŠธ : ์ €ํฌ ๋ถ€๋ถ€์˜ ์ผ์ƒ์€
00:49
like a super long episode of "CSI" --
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์•„์ฃผ ๊ธด "CSI" ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ž‘ ๋น„์Šทํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:51
something like 28 years.
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28๋…„๋™์•ˆ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
00:54
In essence, what we've done
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์—ฌํƒœ๊ป
00:56
is we've studied the science, we've looked at the behavior,
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๊ณผํ•™์„ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งน์ˆ˜๋“ค์˜ ํ–‰๋™์„ ๊ด€์ฐฐํ•ด์˜ค๋ฉด์„œ
00:58
we've seen over 2,000 kills
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์ด ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋ƒฅํ•œ
01:00
by these amazing animals.
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2์ฒœ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์„ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:03
But one of the things that science really lets us down on
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ณผํ•™์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‹ค๋งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ณ„๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ
01:06
is that personality,
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๋™๋ฌผ์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋œ ํ›„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:08
that individual personality that these animals have.
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๋™๋ฌผ์ด ๊ฐ์ž ๊ฐœ๋ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํŠน์„ฑ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
01:12
And here's a prime example.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:14
We found this leopard in a 2,000-year-old
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ํ‘œ๋ฒ”์„ ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์˜
01:16
baobab tree in Africa,
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2์ฒœ๋…„๋œ ๋ฐ”์˜ค๋ฐฅ ๋‚˜๋ฌด์—์„œ ์ฐพ์•˜๊ณ 
01:18
the same tree that we found her mother in
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋‚˜๋ฌด ์•ˆ์—์„œ ์–ด๋ฏธ์™€ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋„
01:20
and her grandmother.
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์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:22
And she took us on a journey
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€์„œ
01:25
and revealed something very special to us --
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์ด ์นœ๊ตฌ์˜ ์•„์ฃผ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ
01:28
her own daughter, eight days old.
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8์ผ๋œ ์ƒˆ๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:30
And the minute we found this leopard,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด ํ‘œ๋ฒ”์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ์–ผ๋งˆ๋˜์ง€์•Š์•„
01:32
we realized that we needed to move in,
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์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์•ผ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
01:34
and so we basically stayed with this leopard
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ ๋ถ€๋ถ€๋Š” ์ด ํ‘œ๋ฒ”๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
01:36
for the next four-and-a-half years --
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4๋…„ ๋ฐ˜๋™์•ˆ ๋™๊ฑฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:38
following her every day,
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๋งค์ผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
01:40
getting to know her,
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์•„์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋๊ณ 
01:42
that individual personality of hers,
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ํŠน์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋˜๋ฉฐ
01:44
and really coming to know her.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋์ฃ .
01:46
Now I'm destined
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์ œ ์ธ์ƒ์€
01:49
to spend a lot of time
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์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์•„์ฃผ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ
01:51
with some unique,
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๋…ํŠนํ•˜๊ณ 
01:53
very, very special,
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์•„์ฃผ์•„์ฃผ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ 
01:55
individualistic
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๊ฐœ์„ฑ๋„˜์น˜๋ฉฐ
01:57
and often seductive female characters.
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๊ฐ€๋”์”ฉ์€ ์œ ํ˜น์ ์ธ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:00
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
02:02
Beverly's clearly one of them,
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋„ ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ํ•œ๋ช…์ด์ฃ .
02:05
and this little leopard, Legadema, is another,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์–ด๋ฆฐ ํ‘œ๋ฒ” ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๋„ ํฌํ•จ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:08
and she changed our lives.
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์ด ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”๋†“์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:10
BJ: Well we certainly did spend a lot of time with her --
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ด ์•„์ด์™€ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:13
in fact, more time than even her mother did.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ์–ด๋ฏธ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
02:15
When her mother would go off hunting,
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์–ด๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ƒฅ์„ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์—†์„๋•Œ๋„
02:17
we would stay and film.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‚จ์•„์„œ ์ดฌ์˜์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:19
And early on, a lightning bolt hit a tree
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋˜ ์–ด๋Š๋‚ , ์ €ํฌ ์•ž ๋ฐ”๋กœ 20๊ฑธ์Œ ์•ž์—
02:22
20 paces away from us.
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๋ฒˆ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ๋–จ์–ด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:24
It was frightening,
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์ •๋ง ๋ฌด์„œ์› ์ฃ .
02:26
and it showered us with leaves and a pungent smell.
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๊ฒŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋•์— ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‚˜๋ญ‡์žŽ๊ณผ ๋”๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ์— ๋’ค๋ฎํžˆ๊ฒŒ ๋์ฃ .
02:29
And of course, we were stunned for a while,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์–ผ๋งˆ๊ฐ„์€ ๋ฉํ•˜๋‹ˆ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:31
but when we managed to get our wits about us,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ ๋’ค ์ •์‹ ์„ ์ฐจ๋ฆฌ์ž
02:34
we looked at it and said, "My gosh,
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์ƒˆ๋ผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ฃ . "์ด๋Ÿด์ˆ˜๊ฐ€,
02:36
what's going to happen with that little cub?
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์ € ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์• ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ• ๊นŒ?
02:38
She's probably going to forever associate
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๋ถ„๋ช… ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๋ฌด์„œ์šด ๋ฒˆ๊ฐœ๋ฅผ
02:40
that deafening crash with us."
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๋– ์˜ฌ๋ฆด๊ฑฐ์•ผ."
02:43
Well, we needn't have worried.
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๊ทผ๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฑฑ์ •์€ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:45
She came charging out of the thicket straight towards us,
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋ค๋ถˆ์†์—์„œ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚˜์™€์„œ ์ €ํฌ ์˜†์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค์˜ค๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
02:48
sat next to us, shivering,
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๋ฐ๋ ‰์—๊ฒŒ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋Œ€๊ณ ๋Š”
02:51
with her back towards Dereck, and looking out.
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๋ฒŒ๋ฒŒ ๋–จ๋ฉฐ ๋ฐ–์„ ๋ณด๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
02:54
And actually from that day on,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋‚  ์ดํ›„๋กœ
02:56
she's been comfortable with us.
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์•„์ด๋Š” ์ €ํฌ์™€ ์นœํ•ด์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:58
So we felt that that day
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‚ ๋กœ
03:00
was the day that she really earned her name.
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์ด ์•„์ด์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ง€์–ด์ค˜์•ผ ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:02
We called her Legadema,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๋ผ๋Š” ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ง€์–ด์คฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:04
which means, "light from the sky."
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"ํ•˜๋Š˜์˜ ๋น›"์ด๋ž€ ๋œป์ด์ง€์š”.
03:07
DJ: Now we've found these individualisms
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ๊ฐœ์„ฑ์„ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋™๋ฌผ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ
03:09
in all sorts of animals,
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์ฐพ์•„๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:11
in particular in the cats.
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ํŠนํžˆ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ณผ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์ด์š”.
03:13
This particular one is called Eetwidomayloh,
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์ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์ดํˆฌ์™€์ด๋‘๋ฉœ๋กœ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š”๋ฐ
03:15
"he who greets with fire,"
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"๋ถˆ์„ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ž" ๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ด์ฃ .
03:17
and you can just see that about him, you know -- that's his character.
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์ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ๋ถ„๋ช… ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ์˜ ํŠน์„ฑ์ด๋ž€ ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์‹ค ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
But only by getting up close to these animals
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค๊ณผ ์นœํ•ด์ง€๊ณ 
03:22
and spending time with them
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์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด
03:24
can we actually even reach out
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ๋ถ„๋ช… ์ด ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„
03:26
and dig out these personal characters that they have.
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๊ฐ๊ฐ์˜ ํŠน์„ฑ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด์‹ค์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:28
BJ: But through our investigation,
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ๊ด€์ฐฐ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ์œ„ํ•ด
03:30
we have to seek the wildest places in Africa.
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์•ผ์ƒ์ง€๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์•„์•ผ ํ• ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:33
And right now this is in the Okavango Delta
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋ณด์ธ ์™€๋‚˜์˜
03:35
in Botswana.
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์˜ค์นด๋ฑ…๊ฐ€ ๋ธํƒ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:37
Yes, it is swamp. We live in the swamp in a tent,
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๋„ค ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋Šช์ง€๋Œ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Šช์— ํ…ํŠธ๋ฅผ ์น˜๊ณ  ์‚ด์•˜์ฃ .
03:40
but I must tell you, every day is exhilarating.
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์ด ๋•Œ์˜ ํ•˜๋ฃจํ•˜๋ฃจ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์‹ ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:43
But also, our hearts are in our throats
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์•„์ฃผ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ
03:45
a huge amount of the time,
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์ •์‹ ๋„ ์—†์—ˆ์ฃ .
03:47
because we're driving through water,
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๋ฌผ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
03:49
and it's an unknown territory.
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์–ด๋”˜์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ณณ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
03:51
But we're really there
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์€ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ
03:53
seeking and searching and filming the iconic cats.
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๋งน์ˆ˜๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ๊ณ  ๋˜ ์ฐพ์•„ ์ดฌ์˜์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:56
DJ: Now one of the big things, of course,
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ํฐ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค
03:58
everybody knows that cats hate water,
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๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ณผ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌผ์„ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:01
and so this was a real revelation for us.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ์— ์ด๊ฑด ์ •๋ง ํฐ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:03
And we could only find this by pushing ourselves,
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์ œ์ •์‹ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ
04:06
by going where no sane person should go --
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๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”๊ธฐ์— ์–ป์€ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:11
not without some prompting, by the way, from Beverly --
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์„ค๋“ํ•œ ํƒ“๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ....
04:14
and just pushing the envelope,
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ํ•œ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๋ฉฐ
04:16
going out there, pushing our vehicle, pushing ourselves.
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์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์ฐจ๋„ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์ž
04:19
But we've managed to find that these lions
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค 15% ๋” ํฌ๊ณ 
04:21
are 15 percent bigger than any others,
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๋ฌผ์†์—์„œ ๋ฒ„ํŒ”๋กœ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ƒฅํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ํŠนํ™”๋œ
04:23
and they specialize in hunting buffalo in the water.
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์ด ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋‚ผ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:27
BJ: And then of course, the challenge
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„์ „์„ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ์—”
04:29
is knowing when to turn around.
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๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ์„œ๋Š” ๋ฒ•๋„ ์•Œ์•„์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:32
We don't always get that right,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฐ ๋Š˜ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๋†“์น˜์ฃ .
04:34
and on this particular day,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋‚ ์€
04:36
we seriously underestimated the depth.
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๋ฌผ์˜ ๊นŠ์ด๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ด์„œ
04:39
We got deeper and deeper,
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๋ฐ๋ ‰์˜ ๊ฐ€์Šด ๋†’์ด๊นŒ์ง€
04:41
until it was at Dereck's chest-height.
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๊ฐ€๋ผ์•‰์•„๊ฐ”์ฃ .
04:43
Well then we hit a deep depression,
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์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์•”์šธํ•ด์ ธ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:46
and we seriously submerged the vehicle.
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์ฐจ๋Š” ์•„์˜ˆ ์นจ์ˆ˜๋˜์–ด๋ฒ„๋ ธ๊ณ 
04:49
We actually managed to drown
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ 2๋ฐฑ๋งŒ๋ถˆ์–ด์น˜์˜ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋ฅผ
04:51
two million dollars' worth of camera gear.
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์ˆ˜์žฅ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
04:54
We drowned our pride, I must tell you,
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์ €ํฐ ๊ทธ๋‚  ์ž์กด์‹ฌ๋„ ๋ฒ„๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:56
which was really serious,
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๊ทธ ์ •๋„๋กœ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ
04:58
and we seized the engine.
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์—”์ง„์„ ๋ถ™์žก๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€์š”.
05:01
DJ: And of course, one of the rules that we have in the vehicle
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฐจ์—์„œ ๋Š˜ ํ•˜๋˜ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
05:03
is that he who drowns the vehicle
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์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋ฌผ์— ๋น ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
05:05
gets to swim with the crocodiles.
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์•…์–ด๋ž‘ ์ˆ˜์˜์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฑฐ์˜€๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
05:07
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
05:09
You will notice also that all of these images here
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฐ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ์ง„๋“ค์ด
05:11
are taken from the top angle by Beverly --
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์ƒ๋‹จ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋กœ ์ฐ์€ ๊ฑฐ๋ž€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋˜์‹ค๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:13
the dry top angle, by the way.
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๋ฉ€์ฉกํ•œ๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ๋ฐ–์— ์—†์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
05:15
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
05:18
But all the places we get stuck in really have great views.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋˜ ๊ณณ์˜ ๊ฒฝ๊ด€์€ ์ฐธ ๋Œ€๋‹จํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:21
And it wasn't a moment, and these lions came back towards us,
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๋”ฑ ํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„ ๋ฟ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ด ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ค๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:24
and Beverly was able to get a great photograph.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‚ฌ์ง„์„ ์ฐ์„ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ฒŒ๋์ฃ .
05:26
BJ: But we truly do
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๋Š”
05:28
spend day and night
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์ข‹์€ ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ์ฐ๊ธฐ์œ„ํ•ด
05:30
trying to capture unique footage.
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๋ฐค ๋‚ฎ์œผ๋กœ ์ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:32
And 20 years ago,
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20๋…„ ์ „์—๋Š”
05:34
we did a film called "Eternal Enemies"
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"์˜์›ํ•œ ์ˆ™์ "์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ œ๋ชฉ์˜ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ดฌ์˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
where we managed to capture
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‘ ๋™๋ฌผ์˜
05:38
this unusual disturbing behavior across two species --
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์•„์ฃผ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ํ–‰๋™๋“ค์„ ์ดฌ์˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
lions and hyenas.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์‚ฌ์ž์™€ ํ•˜์ด์—๋‚˜์˜€์ฃ .
05:43
And surprisingly, it became a cult film.
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๋†€๋ž๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ด ์˜ํ™”๋Š” ์ปฌํŠธ์˜ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:46
And we can only work that out
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ๋œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€
05:48
as people were seeing parallels
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ 
05:50
between the thuggish side of nature
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์ž์—ฐ์˜ ํญ๋ ฅ์ ์ธ ๋ชจ์Šต์—
05:53
and gang warfare.
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๊ฐฑ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์ƒํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:55
DJ: It was amazing, because you can see that this lion
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ์ € ์‚ฌ์ž๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉด ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ด
05:58
is doing exactly what his name,
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์ดํˆฌ์™€์ด๋‘๋ฉœ๋กœ๋ž€ ์ด๋ฆ„ ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ
06:00
Eetwidomayloh, represents.
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ํ–‰๋™ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:02
He's focused on this hyena,
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ํ•˜์ด์—๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ์‚ผ์•˜๊ณ 
06:04
and he is going to get it.
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๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์žก์œผ๋ ค ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:07
(Animal sounds)
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(๋™๋ฌผ ์šธ์Œ์†Œ๋ฆฌ)
06:11
But that's, I think, what this is all about,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์ด ์˜ํ™”๊ฐ€
06:14
is that these individuals have these personalities and characters.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฐ์ฒด๋Š” ๊ฐœ์„ฑ๊ณผ ํŠน์ง•์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฑธ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:17
But for us to get them, not only do we push ourselves,
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์ € ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ์ฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๊ฐ€ ์ € ์•ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ฉด์„œ
06:20
but we live by certain rules of engagement,
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๋˜ ํ•œํŽธ์œผ๋ก  ๊ฒฐํˆฌ์˜ ๋ฒ•์น™์„ ์ง€์ผœ์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:23
which mean we can't interfere.
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๋ผ์–ด๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
06:25
This sort of behavior has been going on
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์ด ํŒจํ„ด๋“ค์€ ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ๋งŒ๋…„๊ฐ„
06:27
for three, four, five million years,
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๋ฐ˜๋ณต๋˜๊ณ  ๋ฐ˜๋ณต๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:29
and we can't step in and say, "That's wrong, and that's right."
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๊ทผ๋ฐ ์ด์ œ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ "์ด๊ฑด ์ž˜๋ชป๋๊ณ  ์ด๊ฑด ๋งž์•„" ํ• ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ฆ‡์ด์ฃ .
06:32
But that's not always easy for us.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฐธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:35
BJ: So, as Dereck says,
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ๋ฐ๋ ‰์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด
06:37
we have to work through extremes --
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ดฌ์˜์„ ์œ„ํ•ด
06:39
extreme temperatures, push ourselves at night.
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๊ทนํ•œ์˜ ์˜จ๋„๋ฅผ ๋ฒ„ํ‹ฐ๊ณ  ๋ฐค๋„ ์ง€์ƒ™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:41
Sleep deprivation is extreme.
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์ˆ˜๋ฉด๋ถ€์กฑ์€ ๊ฒฌ๋””๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“ค์ฃ .
06:44
We're on the edge
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„
06:46
through a large part of the time.
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๋‚ด ์ค„ ์ •๋„๋กœ ์ •๋ง ์ด ์ผ์— ๋ฏธ์นœ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
06:48
But, for 10 years, we tried to capture
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10๋…„๋™์•ˆ ์ €ํฌ๋Š”
06:50
lions and elephants together --
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์‚ฌ์ž์™€ ์ฝ”๋ผ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ์ฐ์œผ๋ คํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
06:53
and never ever managed
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ฃ .
06:55
until this particular night.
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์ด ๋‚ ๋งŒ ๋นผ๊ณ ์š”.
06:58
And I have to tell you
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์ด๊ฑธ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ค์•ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ
07:00
that it was a disturbing night for me.
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์ •๋ง ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ๋ฐค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:02
I had tears rolling down my cheeks.
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์ œ ๋บจ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ˆˆ๋ฌผ์ด ํ˜๋ €์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:04
I was shaking with anxiety,
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๊ฑฑ์ •์œผ๋กœ ๋ชธ์„ ๋–จ์—ˆ์ฃ .
07:07
but I knew that [I had] to capture something
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋„ ์—ฌํƒœ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜๊ฒƒ
07:09
that had never been seen before, had never been documented.
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ํ•œ๋ฒˆ๋„ ๋‚จ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ง€์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋˜๊ฑธ ์ดฌ์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์—ด์ •์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:12
And I do believe you should stay with us.
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์ด ์žฅ๋ฉด์„ ๋ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
07:16
DJ: The amazing thing about these moments --
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ์ €ํฌ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์˜ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์žฅ๋ฉด์ด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ
07:18
and this is probably a highlight of our career --
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์ด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ์ •๋ง ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
07:21
is that you never know how it's going to end.
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๋์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:30
Many people believe, in fact,
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
07:32
that death begins in the eyes, not in the heart,
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์ฃฝ์Œ์€ ์‹ฌ์žฅ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ํ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ
07:34
not in the lungs,
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๋ˆˆ์—์„œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:36
and that's when people give up hope,
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํฌ๋ง์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์ฃ .
07:38
or when any life form gives up hope.
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์–ด๋–ค ์ƒ๋ฌผ์ด๊ฑด ํฌ๋ง์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๋ง์ด์ฃ .
07:40
And you can see the start of it here.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ฃฝ์Œ์€ ์‹œ์ž‘๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:44
This elephant, against overwhelming odds,
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์ด ์ฝ”๋ผ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์ˆ˜์˜ ์ ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹นํ•˜์ž
07:47
simply gives up hope.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ํฌ๋ง์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:01
But by the same token,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„
08:04
you can get your hope back again.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ํฌ๋ง์„ ๋˜์ฐพ์„์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:08
So just when you think it's all over, something else happens,
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒŒ ๋๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ ๋•Œ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜๊ณ 
08:11
some spark gets into you,
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๋งˆ์Œ์†์— ์ŠคํŒŒํฌ๊ฐ€ ํŠ€๋ฉฐ
08:13
some sort of will to fight --
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์‹ธ์šธ ์˜์ง€๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฒจ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:16
that iron will that we all have,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์˜์ง€,
08:18
that this elephant has,
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์ด ์ฝ”๋ผ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์˜์ง€,
08:20
that conservation has, that big cats have.
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์ข…์˜ ๋ณด์กด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งน์ˆ˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์˜์ง€ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
08:23
Everything has that will to survive,
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๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ์‚ด๊ณ ์žํ•˜๋Š” ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š”
08:26
to fight, to push through that mental barrier
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์ •์‹ ์ ์ธ ๋ฒฝ์„ ๋šซ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๊ณ„์† ๊ฑธ์–ด๋‚˜๊ฐˆ
08:28
and to keep going.
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์˜์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:31
And for us, in many ways,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ
08:33
this elephant has become
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์ด ์ฝ”๋ผ๋ฆฌ ์ž์ฒด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๊ฐ€
08:35
a symbol of inspiration for us,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒ ์—ด์ •์˜ ์ƒ์ง•์ด๋ฉฐ
08:37
a symbol of that hope as we go forward in our work.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐˆ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ํฌ๋ง์˜ ์ƒ์ง•์ด ๋˜๋Š”๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:40
(Applause)
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(๋ฐ•์ˆ˜)
08:51
Now back to the leopard.
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์ž ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ‘œ๋ฒ” ์–˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์ฃ .
08:53
We were spending so much time with this leopard
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด ์ƒˆ๋ผ ํ‘œ๋ฒ”๊ณผ ์˜ค๋žœ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋™์•ˆ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
08:55
and getting to understand her individualism,
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๊ฐœ๋ณ„์ ์ธ ํŠน์„ฑ์„ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
08:57
her personal character,
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์„ฑ๊ฒฉ๋„ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:59
that maybe we were taking it a little bit far.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์„ ์„ ๋„˜์€ ๊ฑธ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:02
We were perhaps taking her for granted,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์—ฐํ•˜๋‹ค ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
09:04
and maybe she didn't like that that much.
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์•„์ด๋Š” ์‹ซ์—ˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ฃ .
09:06
This is about couples working together,
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์ด๊ฑด ๊ฐ™์ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ€์˜ ์–˜๊ธด๋ฐ์š”
09:08
and so I do need to say that within the vehicle
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์ฐจ์—์„œ ๊ฐ™์ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋กœ ๋ด์•ผ๊ฒ ๋„ค์š”
09:11
we have quite strict territories, Beverly and I.
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์ €์™€ ๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฐจ์•ˆ์—๋„ ๊ฐ์ž ๊ตฌ์—ญ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:14
Beverly sits on the one side
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”
09:16
where all her camera gear is,
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์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์•‰์œผ๋ฉด
09:18
and I'm on the other side where my space is.
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์ €๋Š” ์ œ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์ชฝ์— ์•‰์ง€์š”.
09:21
These are precious to us, these divides.
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์ด ๊ณต๊ฐ„๋“ค์€ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์•„์ฃผ ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•œ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:24
BJ: But when this little cub saw
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ๊ทผ๋ฐ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์ƒˆ๋ผ ํ‘œ๋ฒ”์ด
09:26
that I had vacated my seat
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋น„์šฐ๊ณ 
09:28
and climbed to the back to get some camera gear,
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์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ๋ฅผ ์ฑ™๊ธฐ๋Ÿฌ ์ฐจ ๋’ค์ชฝ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ž
09:30
she came in like a curious cat
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ํ˜ธ๊ธฐ์‹ฌ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
09:32
to come and investigate.
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๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์ฃ 
09:34
It was phenomenal, and we felt grateful
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๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ๊ณ  ์ •๋ง ๊ธฐ๋ปค๋‹ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:37
that she trusted us to that extent.
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์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆด ๊ทธ์ •๋„๋กœ ๋ฏฟ์–ด์ค€๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
09:39
But at the same time, we were concerned
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ฑฑ์ •์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:41
that if she created this as a habit
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์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆ‡์ด ๋˜๋ฒ„๋ ค์„œ
09:43
and jumped into somebody else's car,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ฐจ์— ๋›ฐ์–ด๋“ค๋ฉด
09:45
it might not turn out the same way --
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฐจ์— ๋›ฐ์–ด๋“  ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ
09:47
she might get shot for that.
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์ด์— ๋งž์„ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
09:49
So we knew we had to react quickly.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:52
And the only way we thought we could
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„์ด์—๊ฒŒ
09:55
without scaring her
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๊ฒ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€
09:57
is to try and simulate a growl like her mother would make --
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์–ด๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ๋‚ผ ์šธ์Œ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
09:59
a hiss and a sound.
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ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
10:01
So Dereck turned on the heater fan in the car --
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฐ๋ ‰์€ ์ฐจ์˜ ํžˆํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ์ผฐ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:03
very innovative.
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์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋˜‘๋˜‘ํ•˜์ฃ .
10:05
DJ: It was the only way for me to save the marriage,
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ์ดํ˜ผ๋‹นํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ์‹ซ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
10:07
because Beverly felt she was being replaced, you see.
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๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋บ๊ฒผ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๊ผˆ์„ํ…Œ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
10:09
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
10:12
But really and truly, this was how
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์ด๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๋Š”
10:14
this little leopard was displaying
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ฑ์„
10:16
her individual personality.
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๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:18
But nothing prepared us
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๊ฐ€
10:20
for what happened next in our relationship with her,
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์‚ฌ๋ƒฅ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ ์ดํ›„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์•„์ด์˜ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€
10:22
when she started hunting.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณ€ํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:24
BJ: And on this first hunt, we truly were excited.
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์ฒซ ์‚ฌ๋ƒฅ์„ ํ–ˆ์„๋•Œ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์‹ ์ด ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:27
It was like watching a graduation ceremony.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ์กธ์—…์‹์„ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:29
We felt like we were surrogate parents.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€๋ชจ, ๋Œ€๋ถ€ ๋œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:31
And of course, we knew now
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ๋Š” ์ด ์•„์ด๊ฐ€
10:33
that she was going to survive.
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์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์‚ด์•„๋‚˜๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š”๊ฑธ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:35
But only when we saw the tiny baby baboon
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์žก์•„์˜จ ๋น„๋น„๋“ฑ ์œ„์—
10:38
clinging to the mother's fur
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ์™€ ๊ฐ™์ด ์žˆ๋Š”
10:40
did we realize that something very unique
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์ƒˆ๋ผ ๋น„๋น„๋ฅผ ๋ดค์„๋•Œ๋Š”
10:42
was taking place here with Legadema.
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๋Š”๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ปด์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:45
And of course, the baby baboon was so innocent,
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ด ์ƒˆ๋ผ ๋น„๋น„๋„ ์ˆœ์ง„ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
10:48
it didn't turn and run.
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๋„๋ง๊ฐ€์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
10:50
So what we watched
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
10:52
over the next couple of hours
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๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋™์•ˆ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๊ด‘๊ฒฝ์„
10:54
was very unique.
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์ง€์ผœ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:57
It was absolutely amazing
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๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋ผ๋น„๋น„๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ด์—๋‚˜ํ•œํ…Œ์„œ
10:59
when she picked it up to safety,
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์•ˆ์ „ํ•œ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ธด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์€
11:01
protecting it from the hyena.
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์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ผ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:04
And over the next five hours,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์„ฏ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋™์•ˆ ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๋Š”
11:07
she took care of it.
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์ƒˆ๋ผ ๋น„๋น„๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:09
We realized that we actually don't know everything,
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๊ทธ๋‚  ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๋„ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
11:12
and that nature is so unpredictable,
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์„ธ์ƒ ์ผ์€ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“ค์–ด
11:16
we have to be open at all times.
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ด์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:19
DJ: Okay, so she was a little bit rough.
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ๊ฑฐ์น ๊ธด ํ•˜์ฃ ?
11:21
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
11:26
But in fact,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค
11:30
what we were seeing here was interesting.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ๋˜ ์ด์œ ๋Š”
11:33
Because she is a cub wanting to play,
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์ด ์•„์ด๋Š” ๋†€๊ธฐ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋ผ์ด์ž
11:36
but she was also a predator needing to kill,
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์‚ฌ๋ƒฅ์„ ํ•ด์•ผํ•˜๋Š” ํฌ์‹์ž์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
11:39
and yet conflicted in some way,
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ณต์žกํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
11:41
because she was also an emerging mother.
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์ž๋ผ๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋ฏธ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:44
She had this maternal instinct,
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์•„์ด์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ˆ™๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ์†Œ๋…€์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
11:46
much like a young girl on her way to womanhood,
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๋ชจ์„ฑ ๋ณธ๋Šฅ์ด ์กด์žฌํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:50
and so this really took us to this new level
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์ด ๋‚ ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ฐœ์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
11:53
of understanding that personality.
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์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:58
BJ: And of course, through the night, they lay together.
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ๊ทธ ๋‚  ๋ฐค, ์ƒˆ๋ผ ๋น„๋น„์™€ ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ˆ„์›Œ
12:01
They ended up sleeping for hours.
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๋ช‡์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋‚ด๋‚ด ๊นŠ์€ ์ž ์„ ์žค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:03
But I have to tell you --
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ด ์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ณธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
12:05
everybody always asks, "What happened to the baby baboon?"
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๋Š˜ "์ƒˆ๋ผ ๋น„๋น„๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?" ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:07
It did die,
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๋น„๋น„๋Š” ์ฃฝ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:09
and we suspect it was from the freezing winter nights.
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์•„๋ฌด๋ž˜๋„ ์ถ”์› ๋˜ ๊ฒจ์šธ ๋ฐค ๋‚ ์”จ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:13
DJ: So at this stage, I guess,
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ์ด ๋‚  ๋ณธ
12:15
we had very, very firm ideas
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๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์—์„œ
12:17
on what conservation meant.
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๋ณด์กด์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:19
We had to deal with these individual personalities.
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์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋™๋ฌผ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๊ฐ์ž์˜ ๊ฐœ์„ฑ์„ ์•Œ์•„์•ผํ•˜๋ฉฐ
12:22
We had to deal with them with respect
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์ด ๋“ค์„ ์กด์ค‘ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ 
12:25
and celebrate them.
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์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ด์ค˜์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:27
And so we, with the National Geographic, formed the Big Cats Initiative
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋‚ ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‚ด์…”๋„ ์ง€์˜ค๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”ฝ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
12:30
to march forward into conservation,
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ณผ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์˜
12:32
taking care of the big cats that we loved --
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๋ณด์กด์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋น… ์บฃ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:34
and then had an opportunity to look back over the last 50 years
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒ 50๋…„ ์ „์˜ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ณผ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์€
12:37
to see how well we had all collectively been doing.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋ƒˆ๋‚˜ ์กฐ์‚ฌํ•ด๋ณผ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:40
So when Beverly and I were born,
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์ €์™€ ์•„๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํƒœ์–ด๋‚ฌ์„๋•Œ๋Š”
12:42
there were 450,000 lions,
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45๋งŒ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
12:44
and today there are 20,000.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ 2๋งŒ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‚จ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:47
Tigers haven't fared any better --
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ํ˜ธ๋ž‘์ด๋Š” ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฒ„ํ‹ฐ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:49
45,000
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4๋งŒ 5์ฒœ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
12:51
down to maybe 3,000.
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3์ฒœ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
12:53
BJ: And then cheetahs have crashed
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์น˜ํƒ€๋“ค์€
12:55
all the way down to 12,000.
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๋งŒ 2์ฒœ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ 
12:57
Leopards have plummeted
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ํ‘œ๋ฒ”๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๋Š”
12:59
from 700,000
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70๋งŒ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ
13:01
down to a mere 50,000.
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5๋งŒ ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค์—ˆ์ฃ .
13:03
Now in the extraordinary time
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ–ˆ๋˜
13:05
that we have worked with Legadema --
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5๋…„์ด ๋„˜์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š”
13:07
which is really over a five-year period --
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๋†€๋ผ์šด ์„ธ์›”๋™์•ˆ
13:09
10,000 leopards were legally shot
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๋งŒ์—ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํ‘œ๋ฒ”๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌํŒŒ๋ฆฌ ์‚ฌ๋ƒฅ๊พผ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
13:12
by safari hunters.
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์‚ฌ์‚ด ๋‹นํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
And that's not the only leopards
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ ์„ธ์›”๋™์•ˆ
13:16
that were being killed through that period.
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์‚ฌ์‚ด๋‹นํ•œ๊ฑด ํ‘œ๋ฒ”๋ฟ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ฃ .
13:18
There's an immense amount of poaching as well,
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๊ฒŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ์–‘์˜ ๋ฐ€๋ ต๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:21
and so possibly the same amount.
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์•„๋งˆ ์‚ฌ๋ƒฅ๋‹นํ•œ ์–‘๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•˜๊ฒ ์ฃ .
13:23
It's simply not sustainable.
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์ด๊ฑด ์ง€์†๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:25
We admire them,
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์šฐ๋ฆฐ ๋งน์ˆ˜๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉฐ ๊ฐํƒ„ํ•˜๋ฉฐ
13:27
and we fear them,
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๋‘๋ ค์›Œํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:29
and yet, as man, we want to steal their power.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ํž˜์„ ๋นผ์•—๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:34
It used to be the time
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ํ•œ๋•Œ๋Š” ์™•๋“ค๋งŒ์ด
13:36
where only kings wore a leopard skin,
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ํ‘œ๋ฒ”์˜ ๊ฐ€์ฃฝ์„ ์ž…๋Š” ์‹œ๋Œ€๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:39
but now throughout rituals and ceremonies,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์˜์‹๊ณผ ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋“ค์„ ํ†ตํ•ด
13:41
traditional healers and ministers.
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์ „ํ†ต ์˜์‚ฌ์™€ ์žฅ๊ด€๋“ค๋„ ์ž…๊ฒŒ ๋˜์—ˆ์ฃ .
13:44
And of course, looking at this lion paw
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ฐ€์ฃฝ์„ ๋ฒ—๊ธด
13:47
that has been skinned,
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์‚ฌ์ž์˜ ๋ผˆ๋ฅผ ๋ณผ๋•Œ
13:49
it eerily reminds me
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์ •๋ง ๋”์ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„
13:51
of a human hand,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์†์ด ๋– ์˜ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:53
and that's ironic, because their fate is in our hands.
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๊ฒŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์šด๋ช…์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์†์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ •๋ง ์•„์ด๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆํ•˜์ฃ .
13:56
DJ: There's a burgeoning bone trade.
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋ผˆ๋งค๋งค๊ฐ€ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:58
South Africa just released some lion bones onto the market.
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๋‚จ์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์—์„œ๋Š” ์–ผ๋งˆ์ „ ์‚ฌ์ž ๋ผˆ๋ฅผ ํŒ๋งคํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:01
Lion bones and tiger bones look exactly the same,
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์‚ฌ์ž์˜ ๋ผˆ์™€ ํ˜ธ๋ž‘์ด์˜ ๋ผˆ๋Š” ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™๊ธฐ์—
14:04
and so in a stroke, the lion bone industry
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅธ๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์ž๋ผˆ ๋งค๋งค๋กœ ์ธํ•ด
14:07
is going to wipe out all the tigers.
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ํ˜ธ๋ž‘์ด๋“ค๋„ ๋ฉธ์ข…๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:10
So we have a real problem here,
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์ด๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค
14:12
no more so than the lions do, the male lions.
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์ˆ˜์ปท ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:15
So the 20,000 lion figure that you just saw
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณด์‹  ์‚ฌ์ž์˜ ๊ฐœ์ฒด์ˆ˜ 2๋งŒ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
14:18
is actually a red herring,
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์ •ํ™•ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:20
because there may be 3,000 or 4,000 male lions,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด 3,4์ฒœ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜
14:23
and they all are actually
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์ˆ˜์ปท ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋‘
14:25
infected with the same disease.
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๊ฐ™์€ ๋ณ‘์— ๊ฐ์—ผ๋๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:27
I call it complacency --
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๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค ํ˜„์žฌ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ์ฃผํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด์ฃ .
14:29
our complacency.
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์ธ๊ฐ„์ด ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
14:31
Because there's a sport, there's an activity going on
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์šฉ๋‚ฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
14:34
that we're all aware of, that we condone.
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์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ž€ ํ–‰์œ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:40
And that's probably because we haven't seen it
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฅผ ์šฉ๋‚ฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋“ค ์ €ํฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
14:42
like we are today.
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๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:46
BJ: And you have to know
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์•„์…”์•ผํ•  ๊ฑด
14:48
that, when a male lion is killed,
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์ˆ˜์ปท ์‚ฌ์ž ํ•œ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฃฝ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด
14:50
it completely disrupts the whole pride.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์ž์˜ ์œ„์—„์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:53
A new male comes into the area
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ž๋ฆฌ์™€ ์œ„์—„์„
14:55
and takes over the pride,
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ˆ˜์ปท์ด ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ 
14:57
and, of course, first of all kills all the cubs
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๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์ปท์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ƒˆ๋ผ๋“ค์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ฃฝ์ด๋ฉฐ
15:00
and possibly some of the females that are defending their cubs.
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์ƒˆ๋ผ๋ฅผ ์ง€ํ‚ค๋ ค๋˜ ์•”์ปท๋„ ์ฃฝ์ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:03
So we've estimated
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถ”์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ
15:05
that between 20 [and] 30 lions are killed
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ํ•œ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ž์‹ ์ด ์‚ด๋˜ ๊ณณ์—์„œ
15:08
when one lion is hanging on a wall
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๋” ๋จผ ๊ณณ์˜ ์ง‘ ๋ฒฝ์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
15:11
somewhere in a far-off place.
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2,30๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ์ฃฝ๊ฒŒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:13
DJ: So what our investigations have shown
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ์‚ฌ ํ›„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€
15:15
is that these lions are essential.
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์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์€ ์ž์—ฐ์— ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹จ ๊ฑฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:17
They're essential to the habitat.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์„œ์‹์ฒ˜์— ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹จ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
15:19
If they disappear,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง„๋‹ค๋ฉด
15:21
whole ecosystems in Africa disappear.
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด์˜ ์ƒํƒœ๊ณ„๋Š” ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํŒŒ๊ดด๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
15:24
There's an 80-billion-dollar-a-year
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด๋Š” ์ž์—ฐ ๊ด€๊ด‘์œผ๋กœ
15:26
ecotourism revenue stream into Africa.
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800์–ต์˜ ์ˆ˜์ต์„ ๋ฒŒ์–ด๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:29
So this is not just a concern about lions;
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ์— ์ด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
15:32
it's a concern about communities in Africa as well.
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์•„ํ”„๋ฆฌ์นด ์‚ฌํšŒ ์ „์ฒด์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ .
15:35
If they disappear, all of that goes away.
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง„๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ด€๊ด‘๋„ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๋Š”๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:38
But what I'm more concerned about in many ways
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์€
15:41
is that, as we de-link ourselves from nature,
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž์—ฐ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฉ€์–ด์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด
15:44
as we de-link ourselves spiritually
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์˜ ์ •์‹ ์ ์ธ ๊ต๊ฐ ์—ญ์‹œ
15:46
from these animals,
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๋Š์–ด์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ 
15:48
we lose hope,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํฌ๋ง๋„ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ณ 
15:51
we lose that spiritual connection,
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์ •์‹ ์ ์ธ ๊ต๊ฐ๋„ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๋ฉฐ
15:54
our dignity, that thing within us
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์œ„์—„๊ณผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„
15:57
that keeps us connected to the planet.
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์ง€๊ตฌ์™€์˜ ๊ต๊ฐ๋งˆ์ € ๋Š๊ธฐ๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:59
BJ: So you have to know, looking into the eyes
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๋ฒ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ : ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ด ์‚ฌ์ง„ ์†
16:02
of lions and leopards right now,
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์‚ฌ์ž์™€ ํ‘œ๋ฒ”๋“ค์˜ ๋ˆˆ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด์„œ
16:05
it is all about critical awareness.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์•„์ฃผ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๋Š”๊ฑธ ์•„์…”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:07
And so what we are doing,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š”
16:09
in February, we're bringing out a film called "The Last Lion,"
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2์›”์— "๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์‚ฌ์ž"๋ผ๋Š” ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ด‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:12
and "The Last Lion" is exactly
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  "๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์‚ฌ์ž"์—์„œ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š”๊ฑด
16:14
what is happening right now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:16
That is the situation we're in --
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜ํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๋ฉฐ
16:18
the last lions.
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๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์‚ฌ์ž๋“ค์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:20
That is, if we don't take action and do something,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ธฐ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์›€์ง์—ฌ ํ–‰๋™์„ ์ทจํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด
16:22
these plains will be completely devoid
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์ด ํ‰์›์—์„œ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๊ณผ ๋™๋ฌผ๋“ค์€ ๊ณง
16:24
of big cats,
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์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:26
and then, in turn, everything else will disappear.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:29
And simply, if we can't protect them,
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๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋“ค์„ ์ง€ํ‚ค์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
16:31
we're going to have a job protecting ourselves as well.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—ญ์‹œ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•ด์•ผํ•  ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์˜ฌ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:34
DJ: And in fact, that original thing that we spoke about
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๋ฐ๋ ‰ : ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๊นŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ธ๋“ฏ
16:37
and designed our lives by --
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ถ์„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„
16:39
that conservation was all about respect
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์กด์ค‘ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ด์คŒ์œผ๋กœ
16:41
and celebration --
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๋ณด์กดํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
16:43
is probably true. That's really what it needs.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:46
We need it. We respect and celebrate each other
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ . ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋‚จ์ž์™€ ์—ฌ์ž๋กœ์„œ
16:49
as a man and a woman, as a community
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต๋™์ฒด๋กœ์„œ ๋˜ ์ง€๊ตฌ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๋กœ์„œ
16:52
and as part of this planet,
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์กด์ค‘ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๊ณ 
16:54
and we need to continue that.
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๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๊ณ„์† ์ด์–ด๊ฐ€์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:56
And Legadema?
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๋ ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฐ๋งˆ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋๋ƒ๊ณ ์š”?
16:58
Well we can report, in fact,
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
17:00
that we're grandparents.
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์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ• ์•„๋ฒ„์ง€ ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:02
(Laughter)
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(์›ƒ์Œ)
17:04
BJ/DJ: Thank you very much.
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์ฃผ๋ฒ„ํŠธ ๋ถ€๋ถ€ : ๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:06
(Applause)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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