Beverly + Dereck Joubert: Life lessons from big cats

翻译人员: Fengqiao Liu 校对人员: Tracy Xin

Beverly Joubert: We are truly passionate

Beverly Joubert (BJ)：我们真地非常热衷于

about the African wilderness

非洲荒原

and protecting the African wilderness,

及对这些荒原的保护。

and so what we've done

因此，一直以来，

is we've focused on iconic cats.

我们都在关注标志性的猫科动物。

And I know,

是的，我知道，

in the light of human suffering and poverty

面对人类困难和贫困，

and even climate change,

甚至气候变化，

one would wonder,

你或许会问，

why worry about a few cats?

何必要为几只猫而忧心忡忡？

Well today we're here

今天，在这里，我们

to share with you a message that we have learned

要和大家分享我们

from a very important and special character --

从一个非常重要而特殊的角色——

this leopard.

这只花豹——身上所学到的东西。

Dereck Joubert: Well, our lives have basically been

Dereck Joubert (DJ): 我们的生活基本上可以算是

like a super long episode of "CSI" --

一集超长的“犯罪现场调查（CSI）”——

something like 28 years.

大约长达28年之久。

In essence, what we've done

实质上，我们一直在做的事情包括：

is we've studied the science, we've looked at the behavior,

研究这门自然科学，观察（动物的）行为，

we've seen over 2,000 kills

并目睹了超过2000次

by these amazing animals.

由这些神奇的动物施行的猎杀。

But one of the things that science really lets us down on

但是，科学无法合理解释的

is that personality,

是个性，

that individual personality that these animals have.

这些动物的独特个性。

And here's a prime example.

这里有个最好的例子。

We found this leopard in a 2,000-year-old

在非洲一棵2000年

baobab tree in Africa,

的猴面包树上，我们发现了这只花豹。

the same tree that we found her mother in

在同一棵树上，我们也看到过她的母亲

and her grandmother.

和外祖母。

And she took us on a journey

她带我们踏上了一段旅程，

and revealed something very special to us --

向我们展示了非常特别的东西——

her own daughter, eight days old.

她的女儿，八天大。

And the minute we found this leopard,

在我们发现这只花豹的那一刻，

we realized that we needed to move in,

我们就意识到，我们需要进入她的生活。

and so we basically stayed with this leopard

于是，在接下来的四年半时间里，我们基本

for the next four-and-a-half years --

上与这只花豹在一起——

following her every day,

每天跟随她，观察她，

getting to know her,

开始了解她

that individual personality of hers,

和她的独特个性，

and really coming to know her.

并真正地认识她。

Now I'm destined

如今，命中注定，我

to spend a lot of time

要花大量的时间

with some unique,

与一些独特的、

very, very special,

极特立独行的、

individualistic

充满个性的、

and often seductive female characters.

通常也很性感的女性在一起。

(Laughter)

（观众笑声）

Beverly's clearly one of them,

Beverly当然是其中之一，

and this little leopard, Legadema, is another,

而这只小花豹，Legadema，则是另一位，

and she changed our lives.

她改变了我们的生活。

BJ: Well we certainly did spend a lot of time with her --

BJ: 我们的确花了很多时间和她在一起——

in fact, more time than even her mother did.

事实上，多过她母亲和她在一起的时间。

When her mother would go off hunting,

当她母亲出去猎食时，

we would stay and film.

我们会留下来陪她，并进行拍摄。

And early on, a lightning bolt hit a tree

刚和她相处不久，一道夹杂着雷鸣的闪电直劈在一棵

20 paces away from us.

离我们只有20步远的树上。

It was frightening,

当时的场景非常吓人。

and it showered us with leaves and a pungent smell.

树叶像雨点儿般落在我们头上，伴随着一股难闻的气味儿。

And of course, we were stunned for a while,

当然，有一阵我们吓蒙了。

but when we managed to get our wits about us,

但当我们回过神儿来，

we looked at it and said, "My gosh,

看着那边，说：“天呐，

what's going to happen with that little cub?

那只小花豹会怎么想？

She's probably going to forever associate

她可能会把那声震耳欲聋的雷鸣和

that deafening crash with us."

我们俩永远联系在一起。”

Well, we needn't have worried.

其实，我们的担心是多余的。

She came charging out of the thicket straight towards us,

她从树丛中出来，径直走向我们，

sat next to us, shivering,

在我们旁边坐下，瑟瑟发抖。

with her back towards Dereck, and looking out.

她背对着Dereck，四处张望。

And actually from that day on,

事实上，从那天起，

she's been comfortable with us.

她接纳了我们。

So we felt that that day

因此，我们觉得，就是在那天，

was the day that she really earned her name.

她真正获得了属于自己的名字。

We called her Legadema,

我们叫她“Legadema”，

which means, "light from the sky."

意思是“来自天空的闪电”。

DJ: Now we've found these individualisms

现在，我们已经在很多种动物身上发现了

in all sorts of animals,

类似的个性，

in particular in the cats.

尤其是猫科动物。

This particular one is called Eetwidomayloh,

这是Eetwidomayloh,

"he who greets with fire,"

意思是“烈焰腾腾”。

and you can just see that about him, you know -- that's his character.

看到它的样子你就能了解，你知道——这就是它的特点。

But only by getting up close to these animals

但是，只有贴近这些动物，

and spending time with them

和它们长期在一起，

can we actually even reach out

我们才可能真正接触

and dig out these personal characters that they have.

并挖掘出它们的这些个性。

BJ: But through our investigation,

BJ: 但是，在探索过程中，

we have to seek the wildest places in Africa.

我们必须找寻非洲最荒野的地方。

And right now this is in the Okavango Delta

这里是博茨瓦纳的Okavango

in Botswana.

三角洲。

Yes, it is swamp. We live in the swamp in a tent,

是的，这里是沼泽地。我们就住在沼泽地的一个帐篷里。

but I must tell you, every day is exhilarating.

但是，我必须告诉你们，这里的每一天都是激动人心的。

But also, our hearts are in our throats

但同时，大多数时间，我们都

a huge amount of the time,

提心吊胆，

because we're driving through water,

因为我们要开车涉水，

and it's an unknown territory.

在这片完全未知的领域。

But we're really there

但我们确实在那里

seeking and searching and filming the iconic cats.

找寻、跟踪并拍摄这些标志性的猫科动物。

DJ: Now one of the big things, of course,

DJ: 其中一个大的发现就是，当然，

everybody knows that cats hate water,

每个人都知道猫科动物不喜欢水。

and so this was a real revelation for us.

所以，这对我们来说这的是一个重大发现。

And we could only find this by pushing ourselves,

而想要有这个发现就必须逼迫自己，

by going where no sane person should go --

到疯子才会去的地方——

not without some prompting, by the way, from Beverly --

顺便说以句，Beverly起了很大的敦促作用——

and just pushing the envelope,

就这样突破极限，

going out there, pushing our vehicle, pushing ourselves.

深入沼泽，挑战汽车、逼迫自己。

But we've managed to find that these lions

终于，我们发现，这些狮子

are 15 percent bigger than any others,

比其他地方的狮子大15%，

and they specialize in hunting buffalo in the water.

它们擅长在水中猎食非洲水牛。

BJ: And then of course, the challenge

BJ: 当然，另一个考验

is knowing when to turn around.

在于要知道什么时候该掉头转向。

We don't always get that right,

对此，我们并非总能把握好。

and on this particular day,

尤其是这一天，

we seriously underestimated the depth.

我们严重低估了水深。

We got deeper and deeper,

我们越走越深，

until it was at Dereck's chest-height.

一直淹到了Dereck的胸口。

Well then we hit a deep depression,

随后，我们撞进一个很深的洼地，

and we seriously submerged the vehicle.

车子整个被淹没到水里。

We actually managed to drown

实际上，我们将

two million dollars' worth of camera gear.

价值200万美元的摄像器材浸没在水中。

We drowned our pride, I must tell you,

一同浸没的还有我们的骄傲，我不得不说，

which was really serious,

那次真的很严重，

and we seized the engine.

而且发动机抱缸了（基本等于报废）。

DJ: And of course, one of the rules that we have in the vehicle

DJ: 当然，我们车上的其中一条规章是，

is that he who drowns the vehicle

谁把车开到水里，

gets to swim with the crocodiles.

谁就下去和鳄鱼一起游泳。

(Laughter)

（观众笑声）

You will notice also that all of these images here

你们也会注意到所有这些图片

are taken from the top angle by Beverly --

都是Beverly从顶角拍的——

the dry top angle, by the way.

顺便说一句，是干燥的顶角。

(Laughter)

（观众笑声）

But all the places we get stuck in really have great views.

但是所有我们陷入困境的地方确实都会有令人叹为观止的景象。

And it wasn't a moment, and these lions came back towards us,

这样的事情发生过不止一次。这些狮子朝我们走来，

and Beverly was able to get a great photograph.

Beverly得以拍下绝佳的照片。

BJ: But we truly do

BJ: 我们确实

spend day and night

日夜努力，

trying to capture unique footage.

只为能够捕捉到独一无二的镜头。

And 20 years ago,

20年前，

we did a film called "Eternal Enemies"

我们拍摄了一部影片，叫“永恒的敌人”。

where we managed to capture

在这部影片中，我们捕捉到了

this unusual disturbing behavior across two species --

两种动物——狮子和土狼——之间令人异常不安

lions and hyenas.

的行为。

And surprisingly, it became a cult film.

令人惊讶的是，这部电影竟然成为了异教狂热片。

And we can only work that out

我们唯一能想到的理由就是，

as people were seeing parallels

人们看到了

between the thuggish side of nature

自然界中残忍杀戮与

and gang warfare.

黑帮火拼的相似之处。

DJ: It was amazing, because you can see that this lion

DJ: 真的很神奇，因为你能看到，这头雄狮

is doing exactly what his name,

确实如它名字Eetwidomayloh的含义一样，

Eetwidomayloh, represents.

杀气腾腾。

He's focused on this hyena,

它盯上了这只土狼，

and he is going to get it.

准备猎杀它。

(Animal sounds)

（动物嚎叫）

But that's, I think, what this is all about,

但我认为，这就是这部影片的目的所在，

is that these individuals have these personalities and characters.

即所有的这些动物都有它们自己的个性和特点。

But for us to get them, not only do we push ourselves,

而我们拍摄期间，不仅要挑战我们的底线，

but we live by certain rules of engagement,

还需遵循一定的“交战规则”——

which mean we can't interfere.

我们不能干涉。

This sort of behavior has been going on

这种行为已经存在了

for three, four, five million years,

大约三、四、五百万年之久，

and we can't step in and say, "That's wrong, and that's right."

我们不能突然站出来，说：“这样是错的，那样是对的。”

But that's not always easy for us.

但对我们来说，这往往不容易做到。

BJ: So, as Dereck says,

BJ: 正如Dereck所说，

we have to work through extremes --

我们必须经历很多极端情况——

extreme temperatures, push ourselves at night.

比如极端温度，夜晚挑战身体极限。

Sleep deprivation is extreme.

睡眠不足相当严重。

We're on the edge

在很多时间里，我们处于

through a large part of the time.

临界状态。

But, for 10 years, we tried to capture

十年来，我们一直试图拍摄到

lions and elephants together --

狮子和大象在一起（的场景）——

and never ever managed

却从未成功过，

until this particular night.

直到这天晚上。

And I have to tell you

我要告诉你们，

that it was a disturbing night for me.

对我来说，这是一个非常不安的夜晚。

I had tears rolling down my cheeks.

我泪流两颊，

I was shaking with anxiety,

焦虑得瑟瑟发抖。

but I knew that [I had] to capture something

但是，我知道这就是为了拍摄到

that had never been seen before, had never been documented.

以前从未有人目睹、也从未被记录下来的情景。

And I do believe you should stay with us.

我坚信，你们应该和我们一起看下去。

DJ: The amazing thing about these moments --

DJ: 这些时刻的神奇之处——

and this is probably a highlight of our career --

而这可能也是我们事业的精彩之处——

is that you never know how it's going to end.

就在于你从来不知道事情将会如何结束。

Many people believe, in fact,

很多人认为，事实上，

that death begins in the eyes, not in the heart,

死亡始于眼睛，而不是内心，

not in the lungs,

不是肺部。

and that's when people give up hope,

而这就是人们放弃希望时的样子，

or when any life form gives up hope.

或是任何生命放弃希望时的样子。

And you can see the start of it here.

你们可以看到，从这里开始了。

This elephant, against overwhelming odds,

这头大象，在狮子压倒性的优势面前，

simply gives up hope.

干脆放弃了希望。

But by the same token,

但是，在同样的情况下，

you can get your hope back again.

你也可以重新燃起希望。

So just when you think it's all over, something else happens,

所以，就在你认为一切行将结束时，另外一件事发生了，

some spark gets into you,

某种热情潜入你心，

some sort of will to fight --

某种战斗意愿（浮出脑海）——

that iron will that we all have,

这种坚强的意志我们都有，

that this elephant has,

这头大象有，

that conservation has, that big cats have.

保护区有，大型猫科动物也有。

Everything has that will to survive,

任何生命都要靠这种坚强的意志去生存，

to fight, to push through that mental barrier

去斗争，去冲破内心的关卡，

and to keep going.

继续前行。

And for us, in many ways,

对我们来说，从许多方面来说，

this elephant has become

这头大象已经成为

a symbol of inspiration for us,

激励我们的一种象征，

a symbol of that hope as we go forward in our work.

我们投入工作是的希望象征。

(Applause)

（观众掌声）

Now back to the leopard.

现在回到这只花豹。

We were spending so much time with this leopard

我们很长时间和这只花豹在一起，

and getting to understand her individualism,

才得以熟悉她的个性

her personal character,

和特点，

that maybe we were taking it a little bit far.

可能我们和她的关系有些过于亲密了。

We were perhaps taking her for granted,

可能我们认为理所当然可以如此，

and maybe she didn't like that that much.

而她或许并不喜欢这样。

This is about couples working together,

夫妻一起工作时也是如此，

and so I do need to say that within the vehicle

需要说明的是，在越野车里，

we have quite strict territories, Beverly and I.

Beverly和我有着严格的地盘划分。

Beverly sits on the one side

Beverly坐的那边

where all her camera gear is,

放着她全部的摄影器材，

and I'm on the other side where my space is.

而另一边是我的地盘。

These are precious to us, these divides.

这些分界对我们来说很重要。

BJ: But when this little cub saw

BJ: 但是，当这只小花豹看到

that I had vacated my seat

我离开座位，

and climbed to the back to get some camera gear,

爬到车后面拿照相器材时，

she came in like a curious cat

她就像一只好奇的猫一样

to come and investigate.

爬进来探索一番。

It was phenomenal, and we felt grateful

这很不寻常，我们也非常感谢

that she trusted us to that extent.

她对我们如此地信任。

But at the same time, we were concerned

但与此同时，我们也很担心，

that if she created this as a habit

如果她养成这样的习惯，

and jumped into somebody else's car,

跳到别人的车里，

it might not turn out the same way --

结果可能大不一样——

she might get shot for that.

她可能因此遭到射杀。

So we knew we had to react quickly.

因此，我们知道，我们必须迅速做出反应。

And the only way we thought we could

我们想唯一能做

without scaring her

而又不吓到她的方法

is to try and simulate a growl like her mother would make --

就是试着发出像她妈妈那样的低声咆哮——

a hiss and a sound.

伴着嘶嘶的声音。

So Dereck turned on the heater fan in the car --

于是，Dereck打开了车内的热风扇——

very innovative.

很有创意吧。

DJ: It was the only way for me to save the marriage,

DJ: 这是我挽救这段婚姻的唯一途径，

because Beverly felt she was being replaced, you see.

因为，你看，Beverly觉得自己被取代了。

(Laughter)

（观众笑声）

But really and truly, this was how

但是，的的确确，这就是

this little leopard was displaying

这只小花豹如何向我们展示

her individual personality.

她的独特个性。

But nothing prepared us

但是，我们绝对没有想到，

for what happened next in our relationship with her,

在我们和她交往中接下来发生的事情，

when she started hunting.

那是在她刚开始自己捕猎时。

BJ: And on this first hunt, we truly were excited.

BJ: 对于这第一次捕猎，我们真的非常兴奋。

It was like watching a graduation ceremony.

我就像在观看一场毕业典礼。

We felt like we were surrogate parents.

我们觉得自己好像是代理家长。

And of course, we knew now

当然，那时我们确信，

that she was going to survive.

她将可以（独立）生存下去了。

But only when we saw the tiny baby baboon

但只有当我们看到那个小小的狒狒幼崽

clinging to the mother's fur

挂在它妈妈身上时，

did we realize that something very unique

我们才意识到，一件非常特殊的

was taking place here with Legadema.

事情正发生在Legadema身上。

And of course, the baby baboon was so innocent,

当然，小狒狒完全不知道发生了什么，

it didn't turn and run.

它没有转身逃走。

So what we watched

于是，

over the next couple of hours

接下来的几个小时内，

was very unique.

我们看到的是极其特别的。

It was absolutely amazing

这绝对让人觉得惊奇。

when she picked it up to safety,

她把它叼起来放到安全的地方，

protecting it from the hyena.

保护它不被土狼叼走。

And over the next five hours,

接下来的5个小时里，

she took care of it.

她一直照料着它。

We realized that we actually don't know everything,

我们意识到，其实，我们并非什么都了解。

and that nature is so unpredictable,

大自然是如此神奇莫测，

we have to be open at all times.

我们必须时刻保持开放的态度。

DJ: Okay, so she was a little bit rough.

DJ: 好吧，她是有点儿粗鲁。

(Laughter)

（观众笑声）

But in fact,

但事实上，

what we were seeing here was interesting.

我们所看到的这一幕很有趣。

Because she is a cub wanting to play,

因为她自己还是一只想要玩耍的小豹子，

but she was also a predator needing to kill,

但同时她又是一个需要杀戮的捕食者，

and yet conflicted in some way,

然而在某种程度上，与之矛盾的，

because she was also an emerging mother.

因为她又是一位未来的母亲。

She had this maternal instinct,

她具有这种母性的本能，

much like a young girl on her way to womanhood,

很像是一个小姑娘正在长成为一位成熟的女性。

and so this really took us to this new level

因此，这把我们带到一个全新的层次

of understanding that personality.

来理解她的个性。

BJ: And of course, through the night, they lay together.

BJ: 当然，一整夜它们都靠在一起。

They ended up sleeping for hours.

它们在一起睡了好几个小时。

But I have to tell you --

但是，我不得不告诉大家——

everybody always asks, "What happened to the baby baboon?"

每一个人都会问：“那只小狒狒最后怎么样了？”

It did die,

它确实死了。

and we suspect it was from the freezing winter nights.

我们怀疑它是死于冬夜的寒冷。

DJ: So at this stage, I guess,

DJ: 到了这里，我认为

we had very, very firm ideas

我们有了一些非常坚定的信念——

on what conservation meant.

关于自然保护区存在的意义。

We had to deal with these individual personalities.

我们必须面对这些独特的个性。

We had to deal with them with respect

我们必须带着尊重面对它们，

and celebrate them.

赞美它们。

And so we, with the National Geographic, formed the Big Cats Initiative

于是，我们和国家地理频道一起发起了“大型猫科动物倡议”，

to march forward into conservation,

将它在保护区内进行推广，

taking care of the big cats that we loved --

以关爱我们喜爱的这些大型猫科动物——

and then had an opportunity to look back over the last 50 years

于是也有机会回顾一下，在过去的50年里

to see how well we had all collectively been doing.

我们在这些方面做得怎么样。

So when Beverly and I were born,

Beverly和我刚出生时，

there were 450,000 lions,

大约有45万头狮子。

and today there are 20,000.

而今天只有2万头。

Tigers haven't fared any better --

老虎的境遇也好不到哪去，

45,000

从4万5千头

down to maybe 3,000.

锐减到大约3千头。

BJ: And then cheetahs have crashed

BJ: 非洲猎豹的数量一路锐减，

all the way down to 12,000.

跌至1万2千头。

Leopards have plummeted

花豹则

from 700,000

从70万头

down to a mere 50,000.

迅速减少到仅仅5万头。

Now in the extraordinary time

尤其是

that we have worked with Legadema --

在我们和Legadema在一起的这段时间，

which is really over a five-year period --

大约5年多——

10,000 leopards were legally shot

有1万头花豹被游猎猎手合法地

by safari hunters.

射杀。

And that's not the only leopards

这还不是

that were being killed through that period.

这段时间内被杀死的所有花豹。

There's an immense amount of poaching as well,

偷猎的数量也很巨大，

and so possibly the same amount.

很可能也达到1万头。

It's simply not sustainable.

这绝对是不可持续的。

We admire them,

我们仰慕它们，

and we fear them,

我们也畏惧它们。

and yet, as man, we want to steal their power.

然而，作为人，我们想窃取它们的力量。

It used to be the time

曾经有段时间，

where only kings wore a leopard skin,

只有国王才穿豹皮，

but now throughout rituals and ceremonies,

但现在，所有仪式和典礼、

traditional healers and ministers.

传统医者和大臣们都在使用豹皮。

And of course, looking at this lion paw

当然，看看这只

that has been skinned,

已被剥皮的狮爪，

it eerily reminds me

它诡异地让我想起

of a human hand,

人类的手。

and that's ironic, because their fate is in our hands.

这很讽刺，因为狮爪的命运掌握在我们手中。

DJ: There's a burgeoning bone trade.

DJ: 还有一个正在迅速发展的骨交易。

South Africa just released some lion bones onto the market.

南非刚刚向这个市场投放了一些狮骨。

Lion bones and tiger bones look exactly the same,

狮子和老虎的骨头看上去完全一样，

and so in a stroke, the lion bone industry

因此很快地，狮骨产业

is going to wipe out all the tigers.

将取代所有的虎骨。

So we have a real problem here,

现在，我们面临一个真正的问题，

no more so than the lions do, the male lions.

没有比狮子的问题更严重的了，尤其是雄狮。

So the 20,000 lion figure that you just saw

所以，你们刚刚看到的，2万头狮子这个数字

is actually a red herring,

只是一个幌子，

because there may be 3,000 or 4,000 male lions,

因为其中大约有3到4千头雄狮，

and they all are actually

实际上它们全部都

infected with the same disease.

感染了同样的疾病。

I call it complacency --

我称之为自傲——

our complacency.

我们人类的自傲。

Because there's a sport, there's an activity going on

因为打猎这种运动，它的存在，

that we're all aware of, that we condone.

我们都知道，却听之任之。

And that's probably because we haven't seen it

而这很可能是因为我们以前从未

like we are today.

像今天这样看待这件事情。

BJ: And you have to know

BJ: 还有，你们必须要了解，

that, when a male lion is killed,

当一头雄狮被杀死时，

it completely disrupts the whole pride.

整个狮群都被摧毁了。

A new male comes into the area

一头新来的雄狮会进入到该片领域，

and takes over the pride,

接管整个狮群。

and, of course, first of all kills all the cubs

然后，当然，它首先会杀死所有的幼狮，

and possibly some of the females that are defending their cubs.

可能还会杀死一些保护自己幼崽的母狮。

So we've estimated

因此，我们估算，

that between 20 [and] 30 lions are killed

大概要杀死20到30头狮子

when one lion is hanging on a wall

才能将一头雄狮挂到

somewhere in a far-off place.

某个遥远地方的墙上。

DJ: So what our investigations have shown

DJ: 因此，我们的研究表明，

is that these lions are essential.

这些狮子是至关重要的。

They're essential to the habitat.

它们对栖息地来说是极重要的。

If they disappear,

如果它们消失了，

whole ecosystems in Africa disappear.

整个非洲的生态系统都会随之消失。

There's an 80-billion-dollar-a-year

非洲每年可获得价值800亿美元

ecotourism revenue stream into Africa.

的生态旅游收入。

So this is not just a concern about lions;

所以，这不仅仅是在关心狮子，

it's a concern about communities in Africa as well.

也是在关心非洲的社群。

If they disappear, all of that goes away.

如果它们消失了，那所有这些都完了。

But what I'm more concerned about in many ways

但是，我在更多方面的担心是，

is that, as we de-link ourselves from nature,

当我们与自然脱钩，

as we de-link ourselves spiritually

当我们从灵性上

from these animals,

与这些动物脱钩时，

we lose hope,

我们就失去了希望，

we lose that spiritual connection,

失去了精神上的联系，

our dignity, that thing within us

失去了我们的人格，而正是这内在于我们的东西，

that keeps us connected to the planet.

使我们保持着与这颗星球的联系。

BJ: So you have to know, looking into the eyes

BJ: 所以，你们必须了解，请看着这些

of lions and leopards right now,

狮子和豹子的眼睛，

it is all about critical awareness.

这全是批判性的警醒。

And so what we are doing,

所以，我们要做的，

in February, we're bringing out a film called "The Last Lion,"

就是在2月份，将发布一部纪录片，叫做“最后的狮子”。

and "The Last Lion" is exactly

而“最后的狮子”恰恰就是

what is happening right now.

现在正在发生的事实。

That is the situation we're in --

这就是我们目前所处的情形——

the last lions.

最后的狮子。

That is, if we don't take action and do something,

这就是说，如果我们不采取行动做点儿什么，

these plains will be completely devoid

大型猫科动物将在这些平原上

of big cats,

彻底消失。

and then, in turn, everything else will disappear.

其后果就是，其余的一切也将随之消亡。

And simply, if we can't protect them,

很简单，如果我们不能够保护它们，

we're going to have a job protecting ourselves as well.

接下来，我们的工作就是要保护我们自己了。

DJ: And in fact, that original thing that we spoke about

DJ: 而事实上，我们所谈论的，也就是

and designed our lives by --

我们依此而生活的最根本的东西——

that conservation was all about respect

保护区的意义就在于尊重

and celebration --

与赞美——

is probably true. That's really what it needs.

这很可能是本质的东西；那是它真正需要的东西。

We need it. We respect and celebrate each other

我们需要它。

as a man and a woman, as a community

作为男人和女人，作为一个社群，

and as part of this planet,

同时作为这个星球的一部分，我们彼此尊重彼此赞美，

and we need to continue that.

我们要将它延续下去。

And Legadema?

至于Legadema？

Well we can report, in fact,

我们可以告诉大家，事实上，

that we're grandparents.

我们做外祖父母了（Legadema已经升级为母亲了）。

(Laughter)

（观众笑声）

BJ/DJ: Thank you very much.

BJ/DJ: 非常感谢大家。

(Applause)

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