How to get back to work after a career break | Carol Fishman Cohen

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ืื ื ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ืœืžื˜ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ.

ืžืชืจื’ื: Ronit Kfir ืžื‘ืงืจ: Sigal Tifferet
00:14
People returning to work after a career break:
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ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืคืกืงื” ื‘ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”-
00:17
I call them relaunchers.
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ืื ื™ ืงื•ืจืืช ืœื”ื "ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ"-
00:20
These are people who have taken career breaks for elder care,
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ืืœื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ืคืกื™ืงื• ืืช ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”
ื›ื“ื™ ืœื˜ืคืœ ื‘ืงืจื•ื‘ื™ื ืžื‘ื•ื’ืจื™ื, ืื• ื‘ื™ืœื“ื™ื,
00:23
for childcare reasons,
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00:25
pursuing a personal interest
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื’ืฉื™ื ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืื™ืฉื™
00:27
or a personal health issue.
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ืื• ื‘ื’ืœืœ ืžื—ืœื”.
00:30
Closely related are career transitioners of all kinds:
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ื”ื ื“ื•ืžื™ื ืžืื“ ืœืื—ืจื™ื ื”ื—ื•ื•ื™ื ืžืขื‘ืจ:
00:33
veterans, military spouses,
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ืžืฉื•ื—ืจืจื™ ืฆื‘ื, ื ืฉื•ืช ื—ื™ื™ืœื™ื,
00:35
retirees coming out of retirement
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ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืคืจืฉื• ืฉื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืžื”ืคืจื™ืฉื”
00:38
or repatriating expats.
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ืื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืžืžื’ื•ืจื™ื ื‘ื—ื•"ืœ.
00:41
Returning to work after a career break is hard
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ืงืฉื” ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืคืกืงื”
00:44
because of a disconnect between the employers
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ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื ืชืง ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื
00:47
and the relaunchers.
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ืœื‘ื™ืŸ ื”"ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ".
00:49
Employers can view hiring people with a gap on their resume
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ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื ืขืœื•ืœื™ื ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืฉื’ื™ื•ืก ืื ืฉื™ื ืขื "ื—ื•ืจ" ื‘ืงื•ืจื•ืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื
00:53
as a high-risk proposition,
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ื”ื•ื ืžื”ืœืš ืžืกื•ื›ืŸ,
00:55
and individuals on career break can have doubts about their abilities
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ื•ืื ืฉื™ื ื‘ื”ืคืกืงืช ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืขืœื•ืœื™ื ืœื”ื˜ื™ืœ ืกืคืง ื‘ื™ื›ื•ืœืชื
00:59
to relaunch their careers,
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ืœืฉื’ืจ ืžื—ื“ืฉ ืืช ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”,
01:01
especially if they've been out for a long time.
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ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ืื ื”ื ืœื ืขื‘ื“ื• ืชืงื•ืคื” ืืจื•ื›ื”.
01:04
This disconnect is a problem that I'm trying to help solve.
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ื”ื ืชืง ื”ื–ื” ื”ื•ื ื”ื‘ืขื™ื” ืื•ืชื” ืื ื™ ืžื ืกื” ืœืคืชื•ืจ.
01:09
Now, successful relaunchers are everywhere and in every field.
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"ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ" ืฉื”ืฆืœื™ื—ื• ื ืžืฆืื™ื ื‘ื›ืœ ืžืงื•ื ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ืชื—ื•ื.
01:14
This is Sami Kafala.
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ื–ื”ื• ืกืžื™ ืงืืคืืœื”.
01:16
He's a nuclear physicist in the UK
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ื”ื•ื ืคื™ืกื™ืงืื™ ื’ืจืขื™ื ื™ ื‘ืจื™ื˜ื™
01:19
who took a five-year career break to be home with his five children.
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ืฉืœืงื— ื—ืžืฉ ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืคืกืงื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ืขื ื—ืžืฉืช ื™ืœื“ื™ื•.
01:24
The Singapore press recently wrote about nurses returning to work
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ื”ืชืงืฉื•ืจืช ื‘ืกื™ื ื’ืคื•ืจ ื›ืชื‘ื” ืœืื—ืจื•ื ื” ืขืœ ืื—ื™ื•ืช ืฉื—ื•ื–ืจื•ืช ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”
01:28
after long career breaks.
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ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืคืกืงื•ืช ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืืจื•ื›ื•ืช.
01:30
And speaking of long career breaks,
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ื•ืื ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืคืกืงื•ืช ืืจื•ื›ื•ืช,
01:32
this is Mimi Kahn.
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ื–ื•ื”ื™ ืžื™ืžื™ ืงืื”ืŸ.
01:34
She's a social worker in Orange County, California,
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ื”ื™ื ืขื•ื‘ื“ืช ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืช ืžืžื—ื•ื– ืื•ืจื ื’' ื‘ืงืœื™ืคื•ืจื ื™ื”,
01:37
who returned to work in a social services organization
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ืฉื—ื–ืจื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื›ืขื•ื‘ื“ืช ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืช
01:40
after a 25-year career break.
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ืื—ืจื™ 25 ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืคืกืงื”.
01:43
That's the longest career break that I'm aware of.
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ื–ื• ื”ืคืกืงืช ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ื”ืืจื•ื›ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ื™ื“ื•ืขื” ืœื™.
01:46
Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor
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ืฉื•ืคื˜ืช ื‘ื™ืช ื”ืžืฉืคื˜ ื”ืขืœื™ื•ืŸ ืกื ื“ืจื” ื“ื™ื™ ืื•ืงื•ื ื•ืจ
01:48
took a five-year career break early in her career.
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ืœืงื—ื” ื—ืžืฉ ืฉื ื•ืช ื”ืคืกืงื” ื‘ืฉืœื‘ ืžื•ืงื“ื ื‘ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืฉืœื”.
01:52
And this is Tracy Shapiro, who took a 13-year career break.
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ื•ื–ื•ื”ื™ ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ืฉืคื™ืจื•, ืฉืœืงื—ื” ื”ืคืกืงื” ื‘ืช 13 ืฉื ื”.
01:57
Tracy answered a call for essays by the Today Show
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ื”ื™ื ืคืจืกืžื” ื›ืชื‘ื” ื‘ืขืงื‘ื•ืช ืคื ื™ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืชื›ื ื™ืช "the Today Show"
02:01
from people who were trying to return to work
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ืœืื ืฉื™ื ื”ืžืชืงืฉื™ื ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
02:03
but having a difficult time of it.
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02:06
Tracy wrote in that she was a mom of five who loved her time at home,
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ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ื›ืชื‘ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืื ืœื—ืžื™ืฉื” ืฉืื”ื‘ื” ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ื‘ื™ืช,
02:10
but she had gone through a divorce and needed to return to work,
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ื”ืชื’ืจืฉื”, ื•ื ืืœืฆื” ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“
02:14
plus she really wanted to bring work back into her life
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02:17
because she loved working.
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ื”ื™ื ื’ื ืžืื•ื“ ืื”ื‘ื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“.
02:19
Tracy was doing what so many of us do
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ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ืขืฉืชื” ืืช ืžื” ืฉืจื•ื‘ื ื• ืขื•ืฉื™ื
02:22
when we feel like we've put in a good day in the job search.
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ื›ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืžืจื’ื™ืฉื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœื ื• ื™ื•ื ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื—ื™ืคื•ืฉ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
02:25
She was looking for a finance or accounting role,
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ื”ื™ื ื—ื™ืคืฉื” ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื‘ื›ืกืคื™ื ืื• ื ื™ื”ื•ืœ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ื ื•ืช
02:28
and she had just spent the last nine months
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ื•ื”ื™ื ื‘ื™ืœืชื” ืืช ืชืฉืขืช ื”ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื ื”ืื—ืจื•ื ื™ื
02:31
very diligently researching companies online
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ื‘ื‘ื“ื™ืงืช ื—ื‘ืจื•ืช ื‘ืจืฉืช,
02:34
and applying for jobs with no results.
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ื•ื‘ื”ื’ืฉืช ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”, ืืš ืœืœื ืชื•ืฆืื•ืช.
02:38
I met Tracy in June of 2011,
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ืคื’ืฉืชื™ ืืช ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ื‘ื™ื•ื ื™ 2011,
02:41
when the Today Show asked me if I could work with her
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ื›ืฉื”ืชื›ื ื™ืช ื‘ื™ืงืฉื” ืžืžื ื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืื™ืชื”
02:45
to see if I could help her turn things around.
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœืจืื•ืช ืื ืื•ื›ืœ ืœืขื–ื•ืจ ืœื”.
02:48
The first thing I told Tracy was she had to get out of the house.
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ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืืžืจืชื™ ืœื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™
ื”ื•ื ืฉื”ื™ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืฆืืช ืžื”ื‘ื™ืช!
02:51
I told her she had to go public with her job search
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ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื” ืฉื”ื™ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืคืจืกื
ืืช ื—ื™ืคื•ืฉ ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืฉืœื”,
02:54
and tell everyone she knew about her interest in returning to work.
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ื•ืœืกืคืจ ืœื›ื•ืœื ืขืœ ื”ืจืฆื•ืŸ ืฉืœื” ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“.
02:58
I also told her, "You are going to have a lot of conversations
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ืืžืจืชื™ ืœื” ื’ื: "ืืช ืขื•ืžื“ืช ืœื ื”ืœ ื”ืžื•ืŸ ืฉื™ื—ื•ืช
03:02
that don't go anywhere.
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ืฉืœื ื™ื•ื‘ื™ืœื• ืœืฉื•ื ืžืงื•ื.
03:04
Expect that, and don't be discouraged by it.
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ืฆืคื™ ืœื–ื”, ื•ืืœ ืชืชื™ื™ืืฉื™ ืžื–ื”.
03:07
There will be a handful
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ื™ื”ื™ื• ืงื•ืžืฅ ื”ืฆืขื•ืช
03:08
that ultimately lead to a job opportunity."
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ืฉื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื™ื•ื‘ื™ืœื• ืœื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ืชืขืกื•ืงื”."
03:12
I'll tell you what happened with Tracy in a little bit,
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ืžื™ื“ ืืกืคืจ ืœื›ื ืžื” ืงืจื” ืขื ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™,
03:15
but I want to share with you a discovery that I made
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ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ืจื•ืฆื” ืœื—ืœื•ืง ืื™ืชื›ื ืชื’ืœื™ืช ืฉื’ื™ืœื™ืชื™
03:17
when I was returning to work
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ื›ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื–ืจืชื™ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“
03:19
after my own career break of 11 years out of the full-time workforce.
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ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืคืกืงืช ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ื‘ืช 11 ืฉื ื™ื.
03:23
And that is, that people's view of you is frozen in time.
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ื•ื–ื”, ืฉื‘ืขื™ื ื™ ืื—ืจื™ื, ื”ืชื“ืžื™ืช ืฉืœืš ืงืคื•ืื” ื‘ื–ืžืŸ.
03:29
What I mean by this is, when you start to get in touch with people
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ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ื›ืฉืืช ืžืชื—ื™ืœื” ืœื™ืฆื•ืจ ืงืฉืจ ืขื ืื ืฉื™ื
03:33
and you get back in touch with those people from the past,
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ื•ืืช ื—ื•ื–ืจืช ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืขื ืื ืฉื™ื ืžื”ืขื‘ืจ,
03:35
the people with whom you worked or went to school,
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ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืขื‘ื“ืช ืื™ืชื ืื• ืฉืœืžื“ืช ืื™ืชื,
03:39
they are going to remember you as you were
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ื”ื ื™ื–ื›ืจื• ืื•ืชืš ื›ืคื™ ืฉื”ื™ื™ืช
03:41
before your career break.
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ืœืคื ื™ ืฉื”ืคืกืงืช ืœืขื‘ื•ื“.
03:43
And that's even if your sense of self has diminished over time,
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ืืคื™ืœื• ืื ืชื—ื•ืฉืช ื”ืขืฆืžื™ ืฉืœืš ื ื—ืœืฉื” ืขื ื”ื–ืžืŸ,
03:47
as happens with so many of us
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ื›ืคื™ ืฉืงื•ืจื” ืœืจื‘ื™ื ืžืื™ืชื ื•,
03:49
the farther removed we are from our professional identities.
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ื›ื›ืœ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืžืชืจื—ืงื™ื ืžื”ื–ื”ื•ืช ื”ืžืงืฆื•ืขื™ืช ืฉืœื ื•.
03:53
So for example, you might think of yourself
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ื›ืš ืฉืœื“ื•ื’ืžื, ืืช ืขืฉื•ื™ื” ืœื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืขืฆืžืš
03:55
as someone who looks like this.
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ื‘ืชื•ืจ ืžื™ืฉื”ื™ ืฉื ืจืื™ืช ื›ื›ื”:
03:57
This is me, crazy after a day of driving around in my minivan.
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ื–ืืช ืื ื™, ืื—ืจื™ ื™ื•ื ื”ืกืขื•ืช ืืจื•ืš,
04:02
Or here I am in the kitchen.
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ื•ื”ื ื” ืื ื™ ื‘ืžื˜ื‘ื—.
04:04
But those people from the past,
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ืื‘ืœ ื”ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ืืœื• ืžื”ืขื‘ืจ,
04:07
they don't know about any of this.
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ื”ื ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขื™ื ืขืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ืžื›ืœ ื–ื”.
04:09
They only remember you as you were,
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ื”ื ื–ื•ื›ืจื™ื ืื•ืชืš ืจืง ืื™ืš ืฉื”ื™ื™ืช,
ื•ื–ื” ืฉื™ืคื•ืจ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื‘ื‘ื˜ื—ื•ืŸ ื”ืขืฆืžื™ ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืงืฉืจ ืื™ืชื,
04:12
and it's a great confidence boost to be back in touch with these people
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04:16
and hear their enthusiasm about your interest in returning to work.
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ื•ืœืฉืžื•ืข ืืช ื”ื”ืชืœื”ื‘ื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื ืžื”ื”ืชืขื ื™ื™ื ื•ืช ืฉืœืš ื‘ื—ื–ืจื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
04:21
There's one more thing I remember vividly from my own career break.
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ื™ืฉ ื“ื‘ืจ ืื—ื“, ืฉืื ื™ ื–ื•ื›ืจืช ื‘ื‘ื”ื™ืจื•ืช ืžื”ืคืกืงืช ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ื”ืคืจื˜ื™ืช ืฉืœื™,
04:25
And that was that I hardly kept up with the business news.
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ื•ื–ื” ืฉื‘ืงื•ืฉื™ ื”ื“ื‘ืงืชื™ ืืช ืงืฆื‘ ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ื”ืขืกืงื™ื,
04:28
My background is in finance,
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ื”ืจืงืข ืฉืœื™ ื”ื•ื ื‘ืคื™ื ื ืกื™ื,
04:30
and I hardly kept up with any news
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ื•ื‘ืงื•ืฉื™ ืขืžื“ืชื™ ื‘ืงืฆื‘ ื”ื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœืœ,
04:33
when I was home caring for my four young children.
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ื›ืฉื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื•ื˜ื™ืคืœืชื™ ื‘ืืจื‘ืขืช ื™ืœื“ื™ ื”ืงื˜ื ื™ื.
04:36
So I was afraid I'd go into an interview
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ืื– ืคื—ื“ืชื™ ืฉืื™ื›ื ืก ืœืจืื™ื•ืŸ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”
04:39
and start talking about a company that didn't exist anymore.
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ื•ืืชื—ื™ืœ ืœื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื—ื‘ืจื” ืฉืœื ืงื™ื™ืžืช ื™ื•ืชืจ.
04:43
So I had to resubscribe to the Wall Street Journal
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ืื– ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืžื ื•ื™ ืœ"ื•ื•ืœ ืกื˜ืจื™ื˜ ื’'ื•ืจื ืœ"
04:46
and read it for a good six months cover to cover before I felt
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ื•ืงืจืืชื™ ืืช ื›ื•ืœื• ื‘ืžืฉืš ืฉื™ืฉื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื, ืขื“ ืฉื”ืจื’ืฉืชื™
04:50
like I had a handle on what was going on in the business world again.
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ืฉืื ื™ ืฉื•ืœื˜ืช ื‘ืžื” ืฉืงื•ืจื” ื‘ืขื•ืœื ื”ืขืกืงื™.
04:55
I believe relaunchers are a gem of the workforce,
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ืื ื™ ืžืืžื™ื ื” ืฉ"ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ" ื”ื ืื•ืฆืจ ืœื›ื— ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”,
04:59
and here's why.
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ื•ื–ื• ื”ืกื™ื‘ื”:
05:01
Think about our life stage:
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ื—ื™ืฉื‘ื• ืขืœ ื”ืฉืœื‘ ืฉืœื ื• ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื:
05:03
for those of us who took career breaks for childcare reasons,
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ืœืืœื• ืžืื™ืชื ื• ืฉืœืงื—ื• ื”ืคืกืงื” ืœื’ื“ืœ ื™ืœื“ื™ื
05:06
we have fewer or no maternity leaves.
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ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืคื—ื•ืช, ืื• ืฉื›ืœืœ ืื™ืŸ ืœื ื• ื—ื•ืคืฉื•ืช ืœื™ื“ื”.
05:08
We did that already.
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ื›ื‘ืจ ืขืฉื™ื ื• ืืช ื–ื”.
05:10
We have fewer spousal or partner job relocations.
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ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืคื—ื•ืช ืจื™ืœื•ืงื™ื™ืฉื ื™ื ืฉืœ ื‘ื ื™ ื–ื•ื’,
05:13
We're in a more settled time of life.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื™ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื,
05:16
We have great work experience.
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ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ื™ื•ืคื™ ืฉืœ ื ืกื™ื•ืŸ ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”,
05:18
We have a more mature perspective.
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ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืคืจืกืคืงื˜ื™ื‘ื” ื‘ื•ื’ืจืช ื™ื•ืชืจ,
05:20
We're not trying to find ourselves at an employer's expense.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื "ืžื—ืคืฉื™ื ืืช ืขืฆืžื ื•" ืขืœ ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื”ืžืขืกื™ืง
05:23
Plus we have an energy, an enthusiasm about returning to work
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ื•ื’ื ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืื ืจื’ื™ื”, ื•ื”ืชืœื”ื‘ื•ืช ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”
05:27
precisely because we've been away from it for a while.
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ื›ื™ ื ืขื“ืจื ื• ืžืžื ื” ืœืชืงื•ืคื”.
05:31
On the flip side, I speak with employers,
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ืžืŸ ื”ืฆื“ ื”ืฉื ื™, ืื ื™ ืžืฉื•ื—ื—ืช ืขื ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื
05:34
and here are two concerns that employers have
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ื•ื”ื ื” ืฉืชื™ ื“ืื’ื•ืช ืฉื™ืฉ ืœืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื
05:36
about hiring relaunchers.
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ืœื’ื‘ื™ ื”ืขืกืงื” ืฉืœ "ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ".
05:38
The first one is, employers are worried that relaunchers
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ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ื”ื™ื - ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื ื“ื•ืื’ื™ื ืฉ"ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ"
05:41
are technologically obsolete.
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ืœื ื™ื”ื™ื• ืžืขื•ื“ื›ื ื™ื ื˜ื›ื ื•ืœื•ื’ื™ืช.
ืื’ืœื” ืœื›ื,
05:44
Now, I can tell you,
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05:45
having been technologically obsolete myself at one point,
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ื›ืžื™ ืฉื”ื™ืชื” ื›ื–ื• ื‘ืขื‘ืจ,
05:49
that it's a temporary condition.
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ืฉื–ื”ื• ืžืฆื‘ ื–ืžื ื™.
05:51
I had done my financial analysis so long ago that I used Lotus 1-2-3.
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ืืช ื”ื“ื•"ื— ื”ืคื™ื ื ืกื™ ืฉืœื™ ื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืžื–ืžืŸ, ืฉื”ืฉืชืžืฉืชื™ ื‘"ืœื•ื˜ื•ืก 1-2-3"
05:57
I don't know if anyone can even remember back that far,
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ืื ื™ ืืคื™ืœื• ืœื ื™ื•ื“ืขืช ืื ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ื–ื•ื›ืจ ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืจื—ื•ืง,
06:00
but I had to relearn it on Excel.
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ืื‘ืœ ื ืืœืฆืชื™ ืœืœืžื•ื“ ืื•ืชื• ืžื—ื“ืฉ ืขืœ ืืงืกืœ.
06:02
It actually wasn't that hard. A lot of the commands are the same.
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ื–ื” ื‘ืขืฆื ืœื ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืงืฉื”, ื”ืจื‘ื” ืคืงื•ื“ื•ืช ื”ืŸ ื–ื”ื•ืช.
06:06
I found PowerPoint much more challenging,
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"ืคืื•ื•ืจ ืคื•ื™ื ื˜" ื”ื™ืชื” ืžืืชื’ืจืช ื™ื•ืชืจ
06:08
but now I use PowerPoint all the time.
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ืื‘ืœ ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ืื ื™ ืžืฉืชืžืฉืช ื‘ื” ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ.
06:11
I tell relaunchers that employers expect them to come to the table
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ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืœื›ืœ ื”"ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ" ืฉื”ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื ืžืฆืคื™ื ืžื”ื ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืžืฉืจื“
06:16
with a working knowledge of basic office management software.
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ืขื ื™ื“ืข ืžืขืฉื™ ื‘ืื•ืคื™ืก.
06:20
And if they're not up to speed,
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ื•ืื ื”ื ืœื ืžืขื•ื“ื›ื ื™ื,
06:21
then it's their responsibility to get there.
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ื–ื• ืื—ืจื™ื•ืชื ืœื”ืชืขื“ื›ืŸ.
06:24
And they do.
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ื•ื”ื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืืช ื–ื”.
06:25
The second area of concern that employers have about relaunchers
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ื”ื“ืื’ื” ื”ืฉื ื™ื” ืฉืœ ื”ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื
06:29
is they're worried that relaunchers don't know what they want to do.
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ื”ื™ื ืฉื”ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืœื ื™ื“ืขื• ืžื” ื”ื ืจื•ืฆื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช.
06:33
I tell relaunchers that they need to do the hard work
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ืื ื™ ืื•ืžืจืช ืœืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ื”ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื ืฆืจื™ื›ื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ ืงืฉื”,
06:36
to figure out whether their interests and skills have changed
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ื›ื“ื™ ืœื“ืขืช ืื ืžื•ืงื“ื™ ื”ืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ื•ื”ื›ื™ืฉื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœื”ื ื”ืฉืชื ื• ืื• ืœื,
06:40
or have not changed
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06:41
while they have been on career break.
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ื‘ืฉืขื” ืฉื”ื ื”ื™ื• ื‘ื”ืคืกืงืช ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”.
06:43
That's not the employer's job.
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ื–ื” ืœื ืชืคืงื™ื“ ื”ืžืขืกื™ืง.
06:45
It's the relauncher's responsibility to demonstrate to the employer
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ื–ื• ืื—ืจื™ื•ืชื ืฉืœ ื”ืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ื”ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœื”ืจืื•ืช ืœืžืขืกื™ืง
06:50
where they can add the most value.
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ื”ื™ื›ืŸ ื”ื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืชืจื•ื ื”ื›ื™ ื”ืจื‘ื”.
06:54
Back in 2010 I started noticing something.
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ื‘ืฉื ืช 2010 ืฉืžืชื™ ืœื‘ ืœืžืฉื”ื•:
06:58
I had been tracking return to work programs since 2008,
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ืขืงื‘ืชื™ ืื—ืจื™ ืชื›ื ื™ื•ืช ื—ื–ืจื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืžืฉื ืช 2008,
07:02
and in 2010, I started noticing
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ื•ื‘ืฉื ืช 2010 ื”ืชื—ืœืชื™ ืœืฉื™ื ืœื‘
07:05
the use of a short-term paid work opportunity,
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ืœื”ื–ื“ืžื ื•ืช ื”ืงื™ื™ืžืช ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืงืฆืจืช-ืžื•ืขื“.
07:09
whether it was called an internship or not,
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ื‘ื™ืŸ ืื ืงืจืื• ืœื–ื” ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืื• ืœื,
07:12
but an internship-like experience,
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ืื‘ืœ ื—ื•ื•ื™ื” ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ืžื• ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช,
07:14
as a way for professionals to return to work.
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ื›ื“ืจืš ืœืื ืฉื™ ืžืงืฆื•ืข ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
07:17
I saw Goldman Sachs and Sara Lee
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ืจืื™ืชื™ ืฉ"ื’ื•ืœื“ืžืŸ-ืกืืงืก" ื•"ืฉืจื” ืœื™"
07:20
start corporate reentry internship programs.
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ืคื•ืชื—ื™ื ืชื›ื ื™ื•ืช ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืฉื•ืง ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
07:23
I saw a returning engineer, a nontraditional reentry candidate,
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ืจืื™ืชื™ ืžื”ื ื“ืก ื—ื•ื–ืจ, ืžื•ืขืžื“ ื—ื•ื–ืจ ืœื ืื•ืคื™ื™ื ื™,
07:29
apply for an entry-level internship program in the military,
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ืžื’ื™ืฉ ืžื•ืขืžื“ื•ืช ืœื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ื‘ืฆื‘ื,
07:32
and then get a permanent job afterward.
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ื•ืื—"ื› ืžืงื‘ืœ ืฉื ืžืฉืจื” ืงื‘ื•ืขื”.
07:35
I saw two universities integrate internships
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ืจืื™ืชื™ ืฉืชื™ ืื•ื ื™ื‘ืจืกื™ื˜ืื•ืช ืžื›ื ื™ืกื•ืช ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช
07:39
into mid-career executive education programs.
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ืœืชื›ื ื™ื•ืช ืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืžื ื”ืœื™ื ื‘ืืžืฆืข ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”.
07:43
So I wrote a report about what I was seeing,
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ืื– ื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ื“ื•"ื— ืขืœ ืžื” ืฉืจืื™ืชื™,
07:46
and it became this article for Harvard Business Review
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ื•ื”ื•ื ื”ืคืš ืœืžืืžืจ ื‘"ื”ืืจื•ื•ืจื“ ื‘ื™ื–ื ืก ืจื™ื•ื•ื™ื•"
07:49
called "The 40-Year-Old Intern."
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ืฉื ืงืจื "ื”ืžืชืžื—ื” ื‘ืŸ ื”-40".
07:50
I have to thank the editors there for that title,
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ืื ื™ ื—ื™ื™ื‘ืช ืœื”ื•ื“ื•ืช ืœืขื•ืจื›ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ื•ืชืจืช ื”ื–ื•,
07:53
and also for this artwork
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ื•ื’ื ืขืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ืช ื”ืืžื ื•ืช ื”ื–ื•
07:55
where you can see the 40-year-old intern in the midst of all the college interns.
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ื‘ื” ืืคืฉืจ ืœืจืื•ืช ืžืชืžื—ื” ื‘ืช 40 ืžื•ืงืคืช ื‘ืžืชืžื—ื™ื ืฆืขื™ืจื™ื.
07:59
And then, courtesy of Fox Business News,
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ื•ืื–, ื”ื•ื“ื•ืช ืœื—ื“ืฉื•ืช ื”ืขืกืงื™ื ืฉืœ ืคื•ืงืก,
08:02
they called the concept "The 50-Year-Old Intern."
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ื”ื ืงืจืื• ืœืงื•ื ืกืคื˜ "ื”ืžืชืžื—ื” ื‘ืŸ ื”-50".
08:05
(Laughter)
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(ืฆื—ื•ืง)
08:09
So five of the biggest financial services companies
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ืื– ืœื—ืžืฉ ืžื—ื‘ืจื•ืช ื”ืฉื™ืจื•ืช ื”ืคื™ื ื ืกื™ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื•ืช ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
08:13
have reentry internship programs for returning finance professionals.
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ื™ืฉ ืชื›ื ื™ื•ืช ื—ื–ืจื” ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืžื•ืžื—ื™ ืคื™ื ื ืกื™ื ืฉื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืฉื•ืง,
08:17
And at this point, hundreds of people have participated.
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ื•ืขื“ ื›ื” ืžืื•ืช ืื ืฉื™ื ื”ืฉืชืชืคื• ื‘ื”ืŸ.
08:20
These internships are paid,
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ื”ื”ืชืžื—ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ืืœื• ื”ืŸ ื‘ืชืฉืœื•ื,
08:22
and the people who move on to permanent roles
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ื•ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืžืชืงื“ืžื™ื ืœืžืฉืจื•ืช ืงื‘ื•ืขื•ืช
08:25
are commanding competitive salaries.
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ื“ื•ืจืฉื™ื ืžืฉื›ื•ืจื•ืช ื˜ื•ื‘ื•ืช.
08:28
And now, seven of the biggest engineering companies
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ื•ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืฉื‘ืข ืžื—ื‘ืจื•ืช ื”ื”ื ื“ืกื” ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœื•ืช ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ
08:32
are piloting reentry internship programs for returning engineers
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ืขื•ืฉื•ืช ืคื™ื™ืœื•ื˜ ืœืชื›ื ื™ื•ืช ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืžื”ื ื“ืกื™ื ืฉื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”
08:36
as part of an initiative with the Society of Women Engineers.
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ื›ื—ืœืง ืžื™ื•ื–ืžื” ืขื ืืจื’ื•ืŸ ื”ืžื”ื ื“ืกื•ืช.
08:41
Now, why are companies embracing the reentry internship?
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ืžื“ื•ืข ื—ื‘ืจื•ืช ืžืืžืฆื•ืช ื”ืชืžื—ื•ื™ื•ืช ืœื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”?
08:46
Because the internship allows the employer
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ื›ื™ ื”ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืžืืคืฉืจืช ืœืžืขืกื™ืง
08:49
to base their hiring decision on an actual work sample
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ืœืงื‘ืœ ืขื•ื‘ื“ ืขืœ ืกืžืš ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืืžื™ืชื™ืช
08:53
instead of a series of interviews,
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ื•ืœื ืกื“ืจื” ืฉืœ ืจืื™ื•ื ื•ืช,
08:55
and the employer does not have to make that permanent hiring decision
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ื•ื”ืžืขืกื™ืง ืœื ื—ื™ื™ื‘ ืœืงื‘ืœ ื”ื—ืœื˜ื” ืกื•ืคื™ืช
08:59
until the internship period is over.
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ืขื“ ืชื•ื ืชืงื•ืคืช ื”ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช.
09:02
This testing out period removes the perceived risk
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ืชืงื•ืคืช ื”ืžื‘ื—ืŸ ื”ื–ืืช ืžืกื™ืจื” ืืช ืชื—ื•ืฉืช ื”ืกื™ื›ื•ืŸ
09:06
that some managers attach to hiring relaunchers,
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ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื—ืœืง ืžื”ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื,
09:10
and they are attracting excellent candidates
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ื•ื”ื ืžื•ืฉื›ื™ื ืžื•ืขืžื“ื™ื ืžืขื•ืœื™ื
09:12
who are turning into great hires.
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ืฉื”ื•ืคื›ื™ื ืœืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ืžืฆื•ื™ื ื™ื.
09:15
Think about how far we have come.
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ื—ืฉื‘ื• ืขื“ ื›ืžื” ื”ืชืงื“ืžื ื•:
09:17
Before this, most employers were not interested
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ืœืคื ื™ ื–ื”, ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื ื›ืœืœ ืœื ื”ืชืขื ื™ื™ื ื•
09:20
in engaging with relaunchers at all.
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ื‘ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืขื "ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ".
09:22
But now, not only are programs being developed
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ื•ืื™ืœื• ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ืœื ืจืง ืฉืชื›ื ื™ื•ืช ืžืคื•ืชื—ื•ืช
09:26
specifically with relaunchers in mind,
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ืžืชื•ืš ืžื—ืฉื‘ื” ืกืคืฆื™ืคื™ืช ืขืœ ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”,
09:29
but you can't even apply for these programs
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ืืช ืื™ื ืš ื™ื›ื•ืœื” ืœื”ื’ื™ืฉ ืžื•ืขืžื“ื•ืช ืœืชื›ื ื™ื•ืช ื”ืืœื•
09:31
unless you have a gap on your rรฉsumรฉ.
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ืื ืื™ืŸ ืœืš "ื—ื•ืจ" ื‘ืงื•ืจื•ืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื.
09:34
This is the mark of real change,
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ื–ื” ืกื™ืžืŸ ืœืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ืืžื™ืชื™,
09:36
of true institutional shift,
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ืœืชื–ื•ื–ื” ืžื•ืกื“ื™ืช ืืžื™ืชื™ืช,
09:39
because if we can solve this problem for relaunchers,
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ื›ื™ ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืคืชื•ืจ ืืช ื”ื‘ืขื™ื” ื”ื–ื• ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”,
09:42
we can solve it for other career transitioners too.
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ืื ื—ื ื• ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืคืชื•ืจ ืื•ืชื” ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืžืฉื ื™ ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ืื—ืจื™ื.
09:46
In fact, an employer just told me
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ืœืžืขืฉื”, ืžืขืกื™ืง ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ืืžืจ ืœื™
09:48
that their veterans return to work program
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ืฉื”ืชื›ื ื™ืช ืฉืœื”ื ืœื’ื™ื•ืก ื™ื•ืฆืื™ ืฆื‘ื
09:50
is based on their reentry internship program.
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ืžื‘ื•ืกืกืช ืขืœ ืชื›ื ื™ืช ื”ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื ืœืขื•ื‘ื“ื™ื ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื.
09:54
And there's no reason why there can't be a retiree internship program.
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ื•ืื™ืŸ ืกื™ื‘ื” ืฉืœื ืชื”ื™ื” ื’ื ืชื›ื ื™ืช ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืœืคื•ืจืฉื™ื.
09:59
Different pool, same concept.
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ื‘ืจื™ื›ื” ืฉื•ื ื”, ืื•ืชื• ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ.
10:02
So let me tell you what happened with Tracy Shapiro.
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ืื– ืืกืคืจ ืœื›ื ืžื” ืงืจื” ืœื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ืฉืคื™ืจื•:
10:04
Remember that she had to tell everyone she knew
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ื–ื•ื›ืจื™ื ืฉื”ื™ื ื”ื™ืชื” ืฆืจื™ื›ื” ืœืกืคืจ ืœื›ืœ ืžื™ ืฉื”ื›ื™ืจื”
10:07
about her interest in returning to work.
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ืขืœ ื”ืจืฆื•ืŸ ืฉืœื” ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ืœืขื‘ื•ื“?
10:09
Well, one critical conversation with another parent in her community
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ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ืฉื™ื—ื” ื—ืฉื•ื‘ื” ืื—ืช ืขื ื”ื•ืจื” ืื—ืจ ื‘ืงื”ื™ืœื”
ื”ื•ื‘ื™ืœื” ืœื”ืฆืขืช ืขื‘ื•ื“ื”:
10:14
led to a job offer for Tracy,
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10:16
and it was an accounting job in a finance department.
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ืจืื™ื™ืช-ื—ืฉื‘ื•ืŸ ื‘ืžื—ืœืงืช ืžื™ืžื•ืŸ.
10:18
But it was a temp job.
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ืื‘ืœ ื–ื• ื”ื™ืชื” ืžืฉืจื” ื–ืžื ื™ืช.
10:20
The company told her there was a possibility
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ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ืืžืจื” ืœื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืืคืฉืจื•ืช
10:23
it could turn into something more, but no guarantees.
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ืฉื–ื” ื™ื”ืคื•ืš ืœืชืคืงื™ื“ ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื‘ืœื™ ื ื“ืจ.
10:26
This was in the fall of 2011.
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ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืกืชื™ื• ืฉืœ ืฉื ืช 2011.
10:29
Tracy loved this company, and she loved the people
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ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ืื”ื‘ื” ืืช ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ื”ื–ืืช ื•ืื”ื‘ื” ืืช ื”ืื ืฉื™ื
10:32
and the office was less than 10 minutes from her house.
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ื•ื”ืžืฉืจื“ ื”ื™ื” ืงืจื•ื‘ ืœื‘ื™ืชื”
10:35
So even though she had a second job offer
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ื›ืš ืฉืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉื”ื™ืชื” ืœื” ื”ืฆืขื”
10:38
at another company for a permanent full-time role,
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ื‘ื—ื‘ืจื” ืื—ืจืช ืœืžืฉืจื” ืžืœืื”,
10:41
she decided to take her chances with this internship
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ื”ื™ื ื”ื—ืœื™ื˜ื” ืœืงื—ืช ืกื™ื›ื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ื”ื–ื•
10:44
and hope for the best.
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ื•ืœืงื•ื•ืช ืœื˜ื•ื‘.
10:47
Well, she ended up blowing away all of their expectations,
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ื•ื‘ื›ืŸ, ื‘ืกื•ืฃ ื”ื™ื ืขืœืชื” ืขืœ ื›ืœ ื”ืฆื™ืคื™ื•ืช ืฉืœื”ื
10:50
and the company not only made her a permanent offer
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ื•ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ืœื ืจืง ื”ืคื›ื” ืื•ืชื” ืœืขื•ื‘ื“ืช ืงื‘ื•ืขื”,
10:52
at the beginning of 2012,
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ื‘ืชื—ื™ืœืช ืฉื ืช 2012,
10:55
but they made it even more interesting and challenging,
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ืืœื ื”ื ื”ืคื›ื• ืืช ื”ืžืฉืจื” ืœืžืขื ื™ื™ื ืช ื•ืžืืชื’ืจืช ื™ื•ืชืจ,
10:57
because they knew what Tracy could handle.
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ื›ื™ ื”ื ื™ื“ืขื• ืขื ืžื” ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ืชื•ื›ืœ ืœื”ืชืžื•ื“ื“.
11:00
Fast forward to 2015,
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ืงืคื™ืฆื” ืงื“ื™ืžื” ืœืฉื ืช 2015,
11:02
Tracy's been promoted.
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ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ืžืงื•ื“ืžืช.
11:04
They've paid for her to get her MBA at night.
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ื”ื ืžื™ืžื ื• ืœื” ืœื™ืžื•ื“ื™ ืขืจื‘ ืœ ืชื•ืืจ MBA.
11:06
She's even hired another relauncher to work for her.
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ื”ื™ื ืืคื™ืœื• ืฉื›ืจื” ืขื•ื“ "ืžื ื™ืขื” ืžื—ื“ืฉ" ืฉืชืขื‘ื•ื“ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื”.
11:11
Tracy's temp job was a tryout,
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ื”ืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ื”ื–ืžื ื™ืช ืฉืœ ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ื”ื™ืชื” ืžื‘ื—ืŸ
11:15
just like an internship,
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ื‘ื“ื™ื•ืง ื›ืžื• ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช,
11:16
and it ended up being a win for both Tracy and her employer.
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ื•ื‘ืกื•ืคื• ืฉืœ ื“ื‘ืจ ื–ื• ื”ื™ืชื” ื–ื›ื™ื” ื’ื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื˜ืจื™ื™ืกื™ ื•ื’ื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื”ืžืขืกื™ืง ืฉืœื”.
11:23
Now, my goal is to bring the reentry internship concept
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ืขื›ืฉื™ื•, ื”ืžื˜ืจื” ืฉืœื™ ื”ื™ื ืœื”ื‘ื™ื ืืช ืจืขื™ื•ืŸ ื”ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืœื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”
11:28
to more and more employers.
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ืœื™ื•ืชืจ ื•ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžืขืกื™ืงื™ื,
11:30
But in the meantime,
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ืื‘ืœ ื‘ื™ื ืชื™ื™ื,
11:32
if you are returning to work after a career break,
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ืื ืืชื ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื” ืื—ืจื™ ื”ืคืกืงืช ืงืจื™ื™ืจื”
11:35
don't hesitate to suggest an internship or an internship-like arrangement
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ืืœ ืชื”ืกืกื• ืœื”ืฆื™ืข ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืื• ืกื™ื“ื•ืจ ืฉื“ื•ืžื” ืœื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช
11:41
to an employer that does not have a formal reentry internship program.
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ืœืžืขืกื™ืง ืฉืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืื™ืŸ ืœื• ืชื›ื ื™ืช ืคื•ืจืžืœื™ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืชืžื—ื•ืช ืขื‘ื•ืจ ื—ื•ื–ืจื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ื“ื”.
11:47
Be their first success story,
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ื”ื™ื• ืกื™ืคื•ืจ ื”ื”ืฆืœื—ื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ืŸ ืฉืœื”ื
11:49
and you can be the example for more relaunchers to come.
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ื•ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ื”ื“ื•ื’ืžื ืœืขื•ื“ "ืžื ื™ืขื™ื ืžื—ื“ืฉ" ืฉื™ื‘ื•ืื• ื‘ืขืงื‘ื•ืชื™ื›ื.
11:53
Thank you.
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ืชื•ื“ื”.
11:55
(Applause)
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[ืžื—ื™ืื•ืช ื›ืคื™ื™ื]
ืขืœ ืืชืจ ื–ื”

ืืชืจ ื–ื” ื™ืฆื™ื’ ื‘ืคื ื™ื›ื ืกืจื˜ื•ื ื™ YouTube ื”ืžื•ืขื™ืœื™ื ืœืœื™ืžื•ื“ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืจืื•ืช ืฉื™ืขื•ืจื™ ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืขื‘ืจื™ื ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื•ืจื™ื ืžื”ืฉื•ืจื” ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืžืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ืœื—ืฅ ืคืขืžื™ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื‘ืื ื’ืœื™ืช ื”ืžื•ืฆื’ื•ืช ื‘ื›ืœ ื“ืฃ ื•ื™ื“ืื• ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ืคืขื™ืœ ืืช ื”ืกืจื˜ื•ืŸ ืžืฉื. ื”ื›ืชื•ื‘ื™ื•ืช ื’ื•ืœืœื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื›ืจื•ืŸ ืขื ื”ืคืขืœืช ื”ื•ื•ื™ื“ืื•. ืื ื™ืฉ ืœืš ื”ืขืจื•ืช ืื• ื‘ืงืฉื•ืช, ืื ื ืฆื•ืจ ืื™ืชื ื• ืงืฉืจ ื‘ืืžืฆืขื•ืช ื˜ื•ืคืก ื™ืฆื™ืจืช ืงืฉืจ ื–ื”.

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