How to get back to work after a career break | Carol Fishman Cohen

Prevoditelj: Tilen Pigac - EFZG Recezent: Ivan Stamenković

People returning to work after a career break:

Ljudi koji se vraćaju na posao nakon prekida karijere:

I call them relaunchers.

Ja ih nazivam ponovnim početnicima.

To su ljudi koji su si uzeli prekid u karijeri zbog brige za starije,

These are people who have taken career breaks for elder care,

for childcare reasons,

zbog brige za djecu,

pursuing a personal interest

sljede osobni interest

or a personal health issue.

ili osobni zdravstveni problem.

Poput njih su svi koji mijenjaju svoju karijeru:

Closely related are career transitioners of all kinds:

veterans, military spouses,

branitelji, vojni supružnici,

retirees coming out of retirement

umirovljenici koji se povlače iz mirovine

or repatriating expats.

ili iseljenici koji se vraćaju.

Returning to work after a career break is hard

Povratak na posao nakon pauze u karijeri je težak

because of a disconnect between the employers

zbog nepovezanosti između poslodavaca

and the relaunchers.

i ponovnih početnika.

Employers can view hiring people with a gap on their resume

Poslodavci mogu vidjeti kada zapošljavaju ljude, da rupa na njihovom životopisu

as a high-risk proposition,

predstavlja visoki rizik,

and individuals on career break can have doubts about their abilities

i pojedinci s pauzom u karijeri mogu imati sumnju u svoje sposobnosti

to relaunch their careers,

za pokretanje karijere iznova,

especially if they've been out for a long time.

pogotovo ako su izbijali dugo vremena.

This disconnect is a problem that I'm trying to help solve.

Ta nepovezanost je problem koju ja pokušavam riješiti.

Now, successful relaunchers are everywhere and in every field.

Sada, uspješni ponovni početnici su posvuda, u svakom polju.

This is Sami Kafala.

Ovo je Sami Kafala.

He's a nuclear physicist in the UK

On je nuklearni fizičar u Velikoj Britaniji

who took a five-year career break to be home with his five children.

koji je uzeo pet godina stanke u karijeri da bi bio kod kuće sa svoje petero djece.

Singapore press je nedavno pisao o medicinskim sestrama koje se vraćaju na posao

The Singapore press recently wrote about nurses returning to work

nakon duge pauze u karijeri.

after long career breaks.

And speaking of long career breaks,

I govoreći o dugim pauzama u karijeri,

this is Mimi Kahn.

ovo je Mimi Kahn.

Ona je socijalna radnica u Orange County, Kaliforniji,

She's a social worker in Orange County, California,

who returned to work in a social services organization

koja se vratila na posao u organizaciji socijalnih usluga

after a 25-year career break.

nakon 25-godišnje pauze u karijeri.

That's the longest career break that I'm aware of.

To je najduža pauza u karijeri koje sam svjesna.

Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor

Vrhovna sutkinja Sandra Day O'Connor

took a five-year career break early in her career.

uzela je petogodišnju pauzu rano u svojoj karijeri.

And this is Tracy Shapiro, who took a 13-year career break.

I ovo je Tracy Shapiro, koja je uzela 13-godišnju pauzu u karijeri.

Tracy answered a call for essays by the Today Show

Tracy je odgovorila na poziv za eseje od strane Today Show-a

from people who were trying to return to work

od ljudi koji su pokušavali da se vrate na posao

but having a difficult time of it.

koji imaju poteškoće s time.

Tracy je napisala da je ona mama petero djece koja vole njezino vrijeme kod kuće,

Tracy wrote in that she was a mom of five who loved her time at home,

but she had gone through a divorce and needed to return to work,

ali ona je prošla kroz razvod i potrebno je bilo da se vrati na posao.

plus she really wanted to bring work back into her life

Također, ona je stvarno htjela donijeti posao natrag u život

jer je voljela raditi.

because she loved working.

Tracy was doing what so many of us do

Tracy je radila ono što mnogi od nas rade

kad osjećamo da smo sproveli dobar dio dana u traženju posla.

when we feel like we've put in a good day in the job search.

She was looking for a finance or accounting role,

Ona je tražila ulogu u financijama ili računovodstvu,

and she had just spent the last nine months

i upravo provela posljednjih devet mjeseci

very diligently researching companies online

vrlo marljivo istraživajući tvrtke putem interneta

and applying for jobs with no results.

i aplicirajući za posao ali bez rezultata.

Upoznala sam Tracy u lipnju 2011. godine,

I met Tracy in June of 2011,

when the Today Show asked me if I could work with her

kad me Today Show zamolio da radim s njom

to see if I could help her turn things around.

da vidim bih joj mogla pomoći okrenuti stvari.

Prvo što sam rekla Tracy je da mora izaći iz kuće.

The first thing I told Tracy was she had to get out of the house.

I told her she had to go public with her job search

Rekla sam joj da mora izaći u javnost sa traženjem posla

and tell everyone she knew about her interest in returning to work.

i reći svima koje zna o njenom interesu za povratak na posao.

I also told her, "You are going to have a lot of conversations

Također sam joj rekla: "Imat ćeš puno razgovora

that don't go anywhere.

koji ne idu nigdje.

Očekuj to, i ne moj da te obeshrabre.

Expect that, and don't be discouraged by it.

There will be a handful

Bit će ih nekoliko

that ultimately lead to a job opportunity."

koji će u konačnici dovesti do prilike za posao."

I'll tell you what happened with Tracy in a little bit,

Reći ću vam što se dogodilo s Tracy za koji trenutak,

but I want to share with you a discovery that I made

ali želim podijeliti s vama moje vlastito otkriće

when I was returning to work

kada sam se vraćala na posao

after my own career break of 11 years out of the full-time workforce.

nakon pauze u karijeri od 11 godina bez punog radnog vremena.

And that is, that people's view of you is frozen in time.

A to je, da je ljudski pogled na nas zamrznut u vremenu.

What I mean by this is, when you start to get in touch with people

Što želim reći je, da kad započnemo imati kontakt s ljudima

i mi se vratimo u kontakt s tim ljudima iz prošlosti,

and you get back in touch with those people from the past,

the people with whom you worked or went to school,

ljudi s kojima ste radili ili išli u školu,

oni će vas pamtiti kakvi ste bili

they are going to remember you as you were

before your career break.

prije prekida vaše karijere.

And that's even if your sense of self has diminished over time,

I to je više izraženo ako je osjećaj sebe samog umanjen tijekom vremena,

kao što se događa u većini slučajeva

as happens with so many of us

the farther removed we are from our professional identities.

što smo dalje uklonjeni od naših profesionalnih identiteta.

So for example, you might think of yourself

Tako na primjer, vi možete misliti o sebi

as someone who looks like this.

kao netko tko izgleda ovako.

This is me, crazy after a day of driving around in my minivan.

Ovo sam ja, luda nakon dana vožnje u mom kombiju.

Ili ovdje sam u kuhinji.

Or here I am in the kitchen.

But those people from the past,

Ali ti ljudi iz prošlosti,

they don't know about any of this.

oni ne znaju ništa o tome.

They only remember you as you were,

Oni se samo sjećaju kakvi ste bili,

i to je veliki poticaj samopouzdanju da se vratitmo kontaktu s tim ljudima

and it's a great confidence boost to be back in touch with these people

and hear their enthusiasm about your interest in returning to work.

i čuti njihov entuzijazam o našem interesu za povratak na posao.

There's one more thing I remember vividly from my own career break.

Postoji još jedna stvar koje se slikovito sjećam sa moje pauze u karijeri.

And that was that I hardly kept up with the business news.

A to je da sam se rijetko bila u doticaju sa poslovnim vijestima.

My background is in finance,

Moja pozadina je u financijama,

and I hardly kept up with any news

i rijetko sam držala korak s bilo kakvim vijestima

kada sam se brinula kod kuće za svoje četvero male djece.

when I was home caring for my four young children.

Tako sam se bojala da ću otići na intervju

So I was afraid I'd go into an interview

and start talking about a company that didn't exist anymore.

i početi govoriti o tvrtki koja više ne postoji.

So I had to resubscribe to the Wall Street Journal

Zato sam se morala ponovno pretplatiti na Wall Street Journal

and read it for a good six months cover to cover before I felt

i čitati ga 6 mjeseci od korica do korica prije nego što sam osjetila

like I had a handle on what was going on in the business world again.

da se mogu nositi sa onim što se događa u poslovnom svijetu ponovno.

I believe relaunchers are a gem of the workforce,

Vjerujem da su ponovni početnici dragulji radne snage,

and here's why.

a evo i zašto.

Think about our life stage:

Razmislite o našoj životnoj fazi:

za one od nas koji su uzeli pauzu u karijeri zbog brige o djeci,

for those of us who took career breaks for childcare reasons,

we have fewer or no maternity leaves.

imamo manje ili nimalo porodiljnih.

We did that already.

To smo već učinili.

We have fewer spousal or partner job relocations.

Imamo manje bračnih ili partnerskih preseljenja radi posla.

We're in a more settled time of life.

Mi smo više u nastanjenom trenutku života.

We have great work experience.

Imamo veliko radno iskustvo.

Imamo zreliju perspektivu.

We have a more mature perspective.

Mi ne pokušavamo pronaći sebe na trošak poslodavca.

We're not trying to find ourselves at an employer's expense.

Plus we have an energy, an enthusiasm about returning to work

Osim toga imamo energiju, i entuzijazam u svezi povratka na posao

precisely because we've been away from it for a while.

upravo zato što smo bili daleko od toga neko vrijeme.

On the flip side, I speak with employers,

S druge strane, razgovaram s poslodavcima,

and here are two concerns that employers have

i ovo su dva problema s kojima se poslodavci suočavaju

about hiring relaunchers.

o zapošljavanju ponovnih početnika.

The first one is, employers are worried that relaunchers

Prvi je, poslodavci su zabrinuti da su ponovni početnici

are technologically obsolete.

tehnološki zastarijeli.

Now, I can tell you,

Sada, mogu vam reći,

having been technologically obsolete myself at one point,

nakon što sam bila tehnološki zastarijela u jednom trenutku,

that it's a temporary condition.

da je to privremeno stanje.

I had done my financial analysis so long ago that I used Lotus 1-2-3.

Ja sam činila moje financijske analize tako davno da sam koristila Lotus 1-2-3.

I don't know if anyone can even remember back that far,

Ne znam da li se itko može sjetiti tako daleko unatrag,

but I had to relearn it on Excel.

ali sam morala ponovo učiti na Excelu.

It actually wasn't that hard. A lot of the commands are the same.

To zapravo nije bilo tako teško. Puno naredbi je isto.

I found PowerPoint much more challenging,

Otkrila sam da je PowerPoint puno izazovniji,

but now I use PowerPoint all the time.

ali sada koristim PowerPoint cijelo vrijeme.

I tell relaunchers that employers expect them to come to the table

Kažem ponovnim početnicima da poslodavci očekuju od njih da dođu do stola

with a working knowledge of basic office management software.

s praktičnim znanjem osnovnog softvera za upravljanje u uredu.

I ako nisu u potpunosti informirani,

And if they're not up to speed,

then it's their responsibility to get there.

onda je njihova odgovornost da budu.

And they do.

I oni to naprave.

The second area of concern that employers have about relaunchers

Drugo područje zabrinutosti poslodavca kod ponovnih početnika

is they're worried that relaunchers don't know what they want to do.

jest da ne znaju što ponovni početnici žele raditi.

I tell relaunchers that they need to do the hard work

Kažem ponovnim početnicima da moraju marljivo raditi

to figure out whether their interests and skills have changed

kako bi spoznali jesu li se njihovi interesi i vještine promijenili

or have not changed

ili se nisu promijenili

while they have been on career break.

kada su bili na karijernoj pauzi.

That's not the employer's job.

To nije posao poslodavca.

It's the relauncher's responsibility to demonstrate to the employer

Ponovni početnici imaju odgovornost dokazati poslodavcu

where they can add the most value.

gdje mogu najviše doprinijeti.

Back in 2010 I started noticing something.

2010. sam počela primjećivati ​​nešto.

I had been tracking return to work programs since 2008,

Pratila sam programe povratka na posao od 2008. godine,

and in 2010, I started noticing

i 2010. sam počela primjećivati

the use of a short-term paid work opportunity,

pojavljivanje prilika za kratkoročan plaćeni posao,

whether it was called an internship or not,

koji se ili nazivao praksa ili ne,

but an internship-like experience,

ali iskustvo poput prakse,

as a way for professionals to return to work.

kao način za profesionalce da se vrate na posao.

I saw Goldman Sachs and Sara Lee

Vidjela sam kako su Goldman Sachs i Sara Lee

start corporate reentry internship programs.

počeli sa programima prakse za ponovni ulazak u korporacije.

I saw a returning engineer, a nontraditional reentry candidate,

Vidjela sam inženjera povratnika, kandidata za ponovni ulazak.

koji se prijavio na početnički program prakse u vojsci,

apply for an entry-level internship program in the military,

and then get a permanent job afterward.

i onda je dobio posao za stalno nakon toga.

I saw two universities integrate internships

Vidjela sam kako dva sveučilišta integriraju prakse

into mid-career executive education programs.

u programe obrazovanja za menadžere u sredini svoje karijere.

So I wrote a report about what I was seeing,

Stoga sam napisala izvještaj o onome što sam vidjela,

i postao je ovaj članak za Harvard Business Review

and it became this article for Harvard Business Review

nazvan, "40-godišnji pripravnik."

called "The 40-Year-Old Intern."

I have to thank the editors there for that title,

Moram se zahvaliti urednicima na tom naslovu,

and also for this artwork

i na ilustraciji

u kojoj možete vidjeti 40-godišnjeg pripravnika usred studenata pripravnika.

where you can see the 40-year-old intern in the midst of all the college interns.

And then, courtesy of Fox Business News,

A onda, zahvaljujući Fox Business News,

they called the concept "The 50-Year-Old Intern."

oni nazivaju koncept "50-godišnji pripravnik."

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

So five of the biggest financial services companies

Dakle, pet najvećih tvrtki za financijske usluge

have reentry internship programs for returning finance professionals.

imaju programe prakse ponovnog ulaska za financijske stručnjake.

And at this point, hundreds of people have participated.

I do sada, stotine ljudi je sudjelovalo.

These internships are paid,

Te prakse su plaćene,

and the people who move on to permanent roles

a ljudi koji nastave sa stalnim zaposlenjem,

are commanding competitive salaries.

dobivaju vrlo kompetitivne plaće.

And now, seven of the biggest engineering companies

A sada, sedam najvećih inženjerskih tvrtki

provode pilot programe prakse za ponovni ulazak za inženjere povratnike

are piloting reentry internship programs for returning engineers

as part of an initiative with the Society of Women Engineers.

u sklopu inicijative sa Društvom žena inženjera.

Now, why are companies embracing the reentry internship?

Sad, zašto tvrtke prihvaćaju prakse za ponovni ulazak?

Because the internship allows the employer

Jer praksa dozvoljava poslodavcu

to base their hiring decision on an actual work sample

da temelji svoju odluku zapošljavanja na stvarnom radnom uzorku

instead of a series of interviews,

umjesto na nizu intervjua,

and the employer does not have to make that permanent hiring decision

i poslodavac ne mora donijeti odluku o trajnom zapošljavanju

until the internship period is over.

sve dok praksa ne završi.

This testing out period removes the perceived risk

Taj period testiranja uklanja prividni rizik

that some managers attach to hiring relaunchers,

koji neki menadžeri pridaju zapošljavanju ponovnih početnika,

i privlače odlične kandidate

and they are attracting excellent candidates

who are turning into great hires.

koji se preobražavaju u odlične zaposlenike.

Think about how far we have come.

Razmislite koliko smo daleko dogurali.

Before this, most employers were not interested

Prije toga, većina poslodavaca nije bila zainteresirana

in engaging with relaunchers at all.

imati veze sa ponovnim početnicima.

But now, not only are programs being developed

Ali sada, ne samo da se programi razvijaju

specifically with relaunchers in mind,

sa ponovnim početnicima u fokusu,

već se ne možete prijaviti za te programe

but you can't even apply for these programs

unless you have a gap on your résumé.

ako nemate rupu u životopisu.

This is the mark of real change,

To je znak prave promjene,

of true institutional shift,

pravog institucionalnog pomaka,

because if we can solve this problem for relaunchers,

jer ako možemo riješiti ovaj problem za ponovne početnike,

we can solve it for other career transitioners too.

možemo to riješiti i za druge koji imaju tranziciju u karijeri.

Naime, poslodavac mi je upravo rekao

In fact, an employer just told me

kako je povratak njihovih veterana u radni odnos

that their veterans return to work program

is based on their reentry internship program.

baziran na programu prakse za ponovni ulazak u radnu snagu.

I nema razloga zašto ne možemo imati program prakse za umirovljenike.

And there's no reason why there can't be a retiree internship program.

Različite grupa, isti koncept.

Different pool, same concept.

So let me tell you what happened with Tracy Shapiro.

Dakle, dopustite mi da vam kažem što se dogodilo s Tracy Shapiro.

Remember that she had to tell everyone she knew

Imajte na umu da je morala reći svima koje je znala

about her interest in returning to work.

o njezinom interesu za povratak na posao.

Well, one critical conversation with another parent in her community

Pa, jedan važan razgovor s drugim roditeljem u svojoj zajednici

je doveo Tracy do ponude za posao,

led to a job offer for Tracy,

i to je posao računovođe u odjelu za financije.

and it was an accounting job in a finance department.

But it was a temp job.

Ali bio je to privremeni posao.

The company told her there was a possibility

Tvrtka joj je rekla kako postoji mogućnost

it could turn into something more, but no guarantees.

da se to pretvoriti u nešto više, ali bez ikakvog jamstva.

This was in the fall of 2011.

To je bilo u jesen 2011. godine.

Tracy loved this company, and she loved the people

Tracy je voljela tu tvrtku, i voljela je ljude

and the office was less than 10 minutes from her house.

a ured je bio manje od 10 minuta od kuće.

So even though she had a second job offer

Dakle, iako je imala ponudu za drugi posao

u drugoj tvrtki za posao na puno radno vrijeme,

at another company for a permanent full-time role,

odlučila je riskirati sa tom praksom

she decided to take her chances with this internship

and hope for the best.

i nadati se najboljemu.

Well, she ended up blowing away all of their expectations,

Pa, ona je prevršila sva svoja očekivanja,

and the company not only made her a permanent offer

i tvrtka ne samo da joj je ponudila posao za stalno,

at the beginning of 2012,

početkom 2012. godine,

već su ga oni učinili još zanimljivijim i izazovnijim,

but they made it even more interesting and challenging,

because they knew what Tracy could handle.

jer su znali što Tracy može savladati.

Fast forward to 2015,

Premotajmo brzo unaprijed, u 2015.,

Tracy's been promoted.

Tracy je promaknuta.

They've paid for her to get her MBA at night.

Platili su joj da pohađa MBA noću.

She's even hired another relauncher to work for her.

Ona je čak zaposlila još jednog ponovnog početnika da radi za nju.

Tracy's temp job was a tryout,

Tracy-n privremeni posao je bio proba,

just like an internship,

poput prakse,

and it ended up being a win for both Tracy and her employer.

i završila je slavodobitno i za Tracy a i za njenog poslodavca.

Now, my goal is to bring the reentry internship concept

Sada, moj cilj je dovesti koncept prakse za ponovni ulazak

sve većem broju poslodavaca.

to more and more employers.

But in the meantime,

No, u međuvremenu,

if you are returning to work after a career break,

ako se vraćate na posao nakon prekida karijere,

don't hesitate to suggest an internship or an internship-like arrangement

ne ustručavajte se predložiti praksu ili aranžman sličan praksi,

to an employer that does not have a formal reentry internship program.

poslodavcu koji nema formalni program prakse za ponovni ulazak.

Be their first success story,

Budite njihova prva priča o uspjehu,

and you can be the example for more relaunchers to come.

i možete biti primjer za više ponovnih početnika koji će doći.

Thank you.

Hvala vam.

(Pljesak)

(Applause)