Chris Bliss: Comedy is translation

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Prevoditelj: Antoaneta Mjeda Recezent: Gordan Prakiš
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Gabriel García Márquez is one of my favorite writers,
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Gabriel García Márquez mi je jedan od najdražih pisaca,
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for his storytelling,
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zbog načina pripovijedanja
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but even more, I think,
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ali još više,
00:21
for the beauty and precision of his prose.
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zbog ljepote i preciznosti njegove proze.
00:23
And whether it's the opening line from "One Hundred Years of Solitude"
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Bilo da se radi o prvoj rečenici iz Sto godina samoće,
00:27
or the fantastical stream of consciousness
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ili o fantastičnoj struji svijesti
00:29
in "Autumn of the Patriarch,"
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u Jeseni patrijarha,
00:31
where the words rush by,
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gdje riječi teku
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page after page of unpunctuated imagery
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stranicama i stranicama nedovršenih slika,
00:35
sweeping the reader along
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povlačeći čitatelja
00:37
like some wild river
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poput neke divlje rijeke
00:39
twisting through a primal South American jungle,
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koja se uvija kroz južnoameričku džunglu,
00:41
reading Márquez is a visceral experience.
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čitanje Márqueza žestoko je iskustvo.
00:44
Which struck me as particularly remarkable
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Ono što sam shvatio
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during one session with the novel
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tijekom jednog čitanja romana,
00:48
when I realized that I was being swept along
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jest da je ono što me povuklo
00:50
on this remarkable, vivid journey
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na ovo izuzetno, živopisno putovanje,
00:53
in translation.
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zapravo prijevod.
00:55
Now I was a comparative literature major in college,
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Studirao sam komparativnu književnost,
00:57
which is like an English major,
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što je kao engleski,
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only instead of being stuck studying Chaucer for three months,
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ali, smo umjesto Chaucera,
01:01
we got to read great literature in translation
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mi čitali vrhunsku prevedenu književnost
01:03
from around the world.
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iz cijelog svijeta.
01:05
And as great as these books were,
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No, premda su te knjige bile sjajne,
01:07
you could always tell
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uvijek je bilo jasno
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that you were getting close to the full effect.
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da se samo približavate punom učinku.
01:11
But not so with Márquez
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No, to nije bio slučaj s Márquezom
01:13
who once praised his translator's versions
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koji je hvalio verzije svog prevoditelja
01:15
as being better than his own,
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kao bolje od svojih vlastitih,
01:18
which is an astonishing compliment.
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što je izuzetan kompliment.
01:21
So when I heard that the translator, Gregory Rabassa,
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Čuvši da je prevoditelj, Gregory Rabassa,
01:23
had written his own book on the subject,
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napisao vlastitu knjigu o toj temi,
01:25
I couldn't wait to read it.
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jedva sam čekao da je pročitam.
01:27
It's called apropos of the Italian adage
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Naslovljena je po talijanskoj izreci
01:29
that I lifted from his forward,
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koju sam pokupio iz njegovog uvoda -
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"If This Be Treason."
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"Ako je ovo izdaja".
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And it's a charming read.
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Riječ je o šarmantnom djelu.
01:35
It's highly recommended for anyone who's interested
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Od srca je preporučujem svakom koga zanima
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in the translator's art.
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umjetnost prevođenja.
01:39
But the reason that I mention it
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No, spominjem je zbog toga što
01:41
is that early on, Rabassa offers
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na samom njenom početku, Rabassa nudi
01:43
this elegantly simple insight:
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ovaj elegantan i jednostavan uvid:
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"Every act of communication
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"Svaki čin komunikacije
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is an act of translation."
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jest čin prevođenja."
01:52
Now maybe that's been obvious to all of you for a long time,
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Možda je to svima vama već odavno jasno,
01:55
but for me,
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no, ja,
01:57
as often as I'd encountered
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iako sam se svakodnevno susretao
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that exact difficulty on a daily basis,
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s upravo tom poteškoćom,
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I had never seen the inherent challenge of communication
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nikad nisam tako jasno uvidio koliko je komunikacija
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in so crystalline a light.
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sama po sebi izazov.
02:06
Ever since I can remember
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Otkako pamtim
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thinking consciously about such things,
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da sam svjesno razmišljao o tim stvarima,
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communication has been my central passion.
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komunikacija je bila moja glavna strast.
02:12
Even as a child,
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Čak i kao dijete,
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I remember thinking that what I really wanted most in life
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sjećam se da sam razmišljao da bih najviše od svega želio
02:17
was to be able to understand everything
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moći sve razumjeti
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and then to communicate it to everyone else.
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i zatim to prenijeti svima ostalima.
02:23
So no ego problems.
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Dakle, nemam problema s egom.
02:26
It's funny, my wife, Daisy,
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Moja mi je supruga, Daisy,
02:28
whose family is littered with schizophrenics --
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čija je obitelj prepuna shizofreničara,
02:30
and I mean littered with them --
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doslovno prepuna,
02:33
once said to me, "Chris, I already have a brother who thinks he's God.
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jednom rekla: "Chris, već imam brata koji misli da je Bog.
02:37
I don't need a husband who wants to be."
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Ne treba mi i suprug koji želi biti Bog."
02:39
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:41
Anyway, as I plunged through my 20s
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Tijekom dvadesetih sam godina,
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ever more aware of how unobtainable
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sve svjesniji koliko je nedohvatljiv
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the first part of my childhood ambition was,
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bio prvi dio mog dječjeg cilja,
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it was that second part,
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uvidio da je u drugom dijelu -
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being able to successfully communicate to others
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sposobnost da uspješno prenesem drugima
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whatever knowledge I was gaining,
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znanje koje sam dobivao -
02:54
where the futility of my quest really set in.
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moja potraga postala stvarno uzaludna.
02:57
Time after time,
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Svaki put
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whenever I set out to share some great truth
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kad bih htio podijeliti neku veliku istinu
03:01
with a soon-to-be grateful recipient,
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s uskoro zahvalnim primateljem,
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it had the opposite effect.
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to je imalo suprotan učinak.
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Interestingly, when your opening line of communication is,
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Zanimljivo, kad počnete razgovor s:
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"Hey, listen up,
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"Slušaj pažljivo
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because I'm about to drop some serious knowledge on you,"
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jer ću ti prenijeti nešto jako važno",
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it's amazing how quickly you'll discover
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zadivljujuće je koliko brzo ćete otkriti
03:16
both ice and the firing squad.
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ledeni prijem i otvoreno neprijateljstvo.
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Finally, after about 10 years
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Napokon, nakon otprilike 10 godina
03:22
of alienating friends and strangers alike,
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udaljavanja podjednako prijatelja i neznanaca,
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I finally got it,
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konačno sam shvatio
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a new personal truth all my own,
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svoju novu osobnu istinu -
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that if I was going to ever communicate well with other people
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ako želim uspješno komunicirati s drugima,
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the ideas that I was gaining,
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prenijeti im ideje koje sam stjecao,
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I'd better find a different way of going about it.
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moram pronaći bolji način da to postignem.
03:38
And that's when I discovered comedy.
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Tad sam otkrio komediju.
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Now comedy travels along a distinct wavelength
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Komedija je na drukčijoj valnoj duljini
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from other forms of language.
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od svih drugih oblika jezika.
03:46
If I had to place it on an arbitrary spectrum,
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Kad bih je smještao na proizvoljan spektar,
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I'd say it falls somewhere
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rekao bih da spada negdje
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between poetry and lies.
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između poezije i laži.
03:54
And I'm not talking about all comedy here,
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Ne govorim o cjelokupnoj komediji
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because, clearly, there's plenty of humor
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jer očito postoji sasvim dovoljno humora
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that colors safely within the lines of what we already think and feel.
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koji je u granicama onoga što već mislimo i osjećamo.
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What I want to talk about
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Ono o čemu želim govoriti je
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is the unique ability that the best comedy and satire has
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jedinstvena sposobnost koju imaju najbolja komedija i satira
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at circumventing our ingrained perspectives --
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da bi nadmudrile naše ukorijenjene perspektive
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comedy as the philosopher's stone.
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- komedija kao kamen mudraca.
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It takes the base metal of our conventional wisdom
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Ona uzima temelj naše konvencionalne mudrosti
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and transforms it through ridicule
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te je kroz podsmijeh pretvara
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into a different way of seeing
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u drukčiji način gledanja,
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and ultimately being in the world.
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ali i postojanja na ovom svijetu.
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Because that's what I take
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Jer je to ono što ja usvajam
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from the theme of this conference: Gained in Translation.
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iz teme ove konferencije - Dobitak u prijevodu.
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That it's about communication
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Bit je u komunikaciji koja
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that doesn't just produce greater understanding
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ne samo da proizvodi veće razumijevanje
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within the individual,
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unutar samog pojedinca,
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but leads to real change.
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nego vodi do prave promjene.
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Which in my experience means communication
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Što iz mog iskustva znači komunikaciju
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that manages to speak to and expand
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koja uspijeva doprijeti i proširiti
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our concept of self-interest.
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naš pojam osobnog interesa.
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Now I'm big on speaking to people's self-interest
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Poklonik sam govora o osobnom interesu
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because we're all wired for that.
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jer smo svi mi predodređeni za to.
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It's part of our survival package,
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To je dio naše opreme za preživljavanje,
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and that's why it's become so important for us,
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zato je postalo tako važno za nas
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and that's why we're always listening at that level.
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i zato uvijek slušamo na toj razini.
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And also because that's where,
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A također jer upravo tu,
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in terms of our own self-interest,
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u sklopu vlastitog osobnog interesa,
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we finally begin to grasp
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konačno počinjemo shvaćati
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our ability to respond, our responsibility
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svoju sposobnost da budemo odgovorni
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to the rest of the world.
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prema ostatku svijeta.
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Now as to what I mean by the best comedy and satire,
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Pod najboljom komedijom i satirom
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I mean work that comes first and foremost
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podrazumijevam djelo koje ponajprije
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from a place of honesty and integrity.
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nastaje iz poštenja i integriteta.
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Now if you think back
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Ako se prisjetite komičarke Tine Fey
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on Tina Fey's impersonations on Saturday Night Live
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kako u emisiji Saturday Night Live oponaša
05:19
of the newly nominated vice presidential candidate
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05:21
Sarah Palin,
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nominiranu potpredsjedničku kandidatkinju
Saru Palin,
05:23
they were devastating.
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to je bila veličanstvena komedija.
05:25
Fey demonstrated far more effectively than any political pundit
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Fey je daleko učinkovitije od bilo kojeg političkog analitičara
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the candidate's fundamental lack of seriousness,
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pokazala njen nedostatak ozbiljnosti,
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cementing an impression
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zacementiravši dojam koji
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that the majority of the American public still holds today.
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većina američke javnosti ima i danas.
05:36
And the key detail of this
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Ključni je detalj toga
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is that Fey's scripts weren't written by her
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da Fey nije sama napisala scenarij,
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and they weren't written by the SNL writers.
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a nisu ga napisali ni scenaristi emisije.
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They were lifted verbatim
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On je od riječi do riječi preuzet
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from Palin's own remarks.
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iz Palininih vlastitih primjedbi.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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Here was a Palin impersonator
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Bila je to Palinina oponašateljica
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quoting Palin word for word.
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koja ju je citirala od riječi do riječi.
05:54
Now that's honesty and integrity,
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To je poštenje i integritet,
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and it's also why Fey's performances
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a to je i razlog zašto je Feyin nastup
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left such a lasting impression.
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ostavio tako dugoročan dojam.
06:00
On the other side of the political spectrum,
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Na drugoj strani političkog spektra,
06:03
the first time that I heard Rush Limbaugh
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prvi put kad sam čuo Rusha Limbaugha
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refer to presidential hopeful John Edwards as the Breck girl
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kako naziva predsjedničkog pretendenta Johna Edwardsa djevojkom s reklame,
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I knew that he'd made a direct hit.
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znao sam da je to bio izravni pogodak.
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Now it's not often that I'm going to associate
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Ne povezujem često
06:14
the words honesty and integrity with Limbaugh,
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poštenje i integritet s Limbaughom,
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but it's really hard to argue with that punchline.
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ali stvarno je teško osporiti poantu tog vica.
06:20
The description perfectly captured
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Opis je savršeno pogodio
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Edwards' personal vanity.
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Edwardsovu taštinu.
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And guess what?
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I pogodite što?
Upravo to je na kraju bila osobina koja je
06:26
That ended up being the exact personality trait
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06:28
that was at the core of the scandal that ended his political career.
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bila u srži skandala koji je uništio njegovu političku karijeru.
06:33
Now The Daily Show with John Stewart
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The Daily Show s Johnom Stewartom je
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is by far the most --
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daleko naj...
06:37
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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it's by far the most well-documented example
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Daleko je najdokumentiraniji primjer
06:49
of the effectiveness of this kind of comedy.
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učinkovitosti ove vrste komedije.
06:52
Survey after survey,
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Istraživanje za istraživanjem,
od Istraživačkog centra Pew do Centra za javne politike Annenberg,
06:54
from Pew Research to the Annenberg Center for Public Policy,
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06:57
has found that Daily Show viewers are better informed about current events
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ukazalo je da su gledatelji Daily Showa informiraniji o događajima,
07:00
than the viewers of all major network and cable news shows.
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nego gledatelji informativnih emisija svih većih kanala.
07:04
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
07:07
Now whether this says more
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Iako to više govori
07:09
about the conflict between integrity and profitability
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o sukobu između integriteta i profitabilnosti
07:12
of corporate journalism
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korporativnog novinarstva,
07:14
than it does about the attentiveness of Stewart's viewers,
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nego o pažnji Stewartovih gledatelja,
07:16
the larger point remains
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važnija poanta je
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that Stewart's material
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da je Stewartov materijal
07:20
is always grounded in a commitment to the facts --
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uvijek utemeljen na činjenicama
07:23
not because his intent is to inform. It's not.
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- ne jer mu je namjera informirati. Nije.
07:25
His intent is to be funny.
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Namjera mu je biti smiješan.
07:27
It just so happens that Stewart's brand of funny
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Stvar je u tome da Stewartova vrsta humora
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doesn't work unless the facts are true.
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ne funkcionira ako činjenice nisu točne.
07:33
And the result is great comedy
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Rezultat je izvrsna komedija
07:35
that's also an information delivery system
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koja je također sustav dostave informacija
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that scores markedly higher in both credibility and retention
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koji ima značajno viši kredibilitet i pamtljivost
07:41
than the professional news media.
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nego profesionalni informativni mediji.
07:44
Now this is doubly ironic
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To je dvostruko ironično
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when you consider that what gives comedy its edge
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kad uzmete u obzir da je ono što komediji daje njenu oštrinu
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at reaching around people's walls
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da bi doprla iza naših zidova
07:51
is the way that it uses deliberate misdirection.
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način na koji koristi namjerno navođenje na krivi zaključak.
07:54
A great piece of comedy is a verbal magic trick,
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Izvrsna komedija je verbalni magični trik,
07:57
where you think it's going over here
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mislite da ide ovdje,
07:59
and then all of a sudden you're transported over here.
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a onda ste iznenada prebačeni ovdje.
08:02
And there's this mental delight
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Imamo i mentalno oduševljenje
08:04
that's followed by the physical response of laughter,
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koje slijedi fizički odgovor - smijeh,
08:06
which, not coincidentally,
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koji, ne slučajno,
08:08
releases endorphins in the brain.
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pušta endorfine u mozak.
08:10
And just like that, you've been seduced
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I tako ste jednostavno zavedeni
08:12
into a different way of looking at something
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da na nešto gledate drukčije,
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because the endorphins have brought down your defenses.
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jer su endorfini srušili vašu obranu.
08:17
This is the exact opposite
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To ja sasvim suprotno
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of the way that anger and fear and panic,
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od načina na koji ljutnja, strah i panika,
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all of the flight-or-fight responses, operate.
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sve reakcije "bori se ili bježi", djeluju.
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Flight-or-fight releases adrenalin,
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Ta reakcija pušta adrenalin,
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which throws our walls up sky-high.
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koji podiže naše zidove u vrtoglave visine.
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And the comedy comes along,
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Tada dolazi komedija
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dealing with a lot of the same areas
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koja se obračunava s istim područjima
08:33
where our defenses are the strongest --
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gdje nam je obrana najsnažnija -
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race, religion, politics, sexuality --
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rasa, religija, politika, seksualnost -
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only by approaching them through humor instead of adrenalin,
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samo što im ona pristupa putem humora umjesto putem adrenalina,
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we get endorphins
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dobivamo endorfine
08:43
and the alchemy of laughter turns our walls into windows,
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i ta alkemija smijeha pretvara naše zidove u prozore,
08:46
revealing a fresh and unexpected point of view.
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otkrivajući svježe i neočekivano gledište.
08:49
Now let me give you an example from my act.
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Dat ću vam primjer iz svog nastupa.
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I have some material
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Imam nešto materijala
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about the so-called radical gay agenda,
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o tzv. radikalnoj gay agendi,
08:56
which starts off by asking,
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koji započinje pitanjem -
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how radical is the gay agenda?
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koliko je radikalna gay agenda?
09:00
Because from what I can tell, the three things gay Americans seem to want most
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Jer meni se čini da gay Amerikanci najviše žele tri stvari:
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are to join the military, get married and start a family.
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ići u vojsku, vjenčati se i imati obitelj.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:10
Three things I've tried to avoid my entire life.
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Tri stvari koje pokušavam izbjeći cijeli svoj život.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:16
Have at it you radical bastards. The field is yours.
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Eto vam, radikalni gadovi. Teren je vaš.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:22
And that's followed by these lines
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Nakon toga slijede ova pitanja
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about gay adoption:
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o gay posvajanju:
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What is the problem with gay adoption?
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U čemu je problem s gay posvajanjem?
09:28
Why is this remotely controversial?
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Zašto je to uopće kontroverzno?
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If you have a baby and you think that baby's gay,
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Ako imate dijete i mislite da je gay,
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you should be allowed to put it up for adoption.
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trebali biste ga moći dati na posvajanje.
09:35
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:37
You have given birth to an abomination.
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Rodili ste nešto odvratno.
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Remove it from your household.
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Uklonite to iz svoje kuće.
09:43
Now by taking the biblical epithet "abomination"
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Uzevši biblijski epitet "odvratno"
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and attaching it to the ultimate image of innocence, a baby,
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i dodijelivši ga krajnjoj slici nevinosti - bebi,
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this joke short circuits the emotional wiring
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vic stvara kratak spoj u emocijama
09:52
behind the debate
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povezanih s tom debatom
09:54
and it leaves the audience with the opportunity, through their laughter,
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te ostavlja publici priliku da kroz smijeh
09:57
to question its validity.
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preispituje njegovu ispravnost.
09:59
Misdirection isn't the only trick
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Navođenje na krivi zaključak nije jedini trik
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that comedy has up its sleeve.
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koji komedija skriva u rukavu.
10:03
Economy of language
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Ekonomičnost jezika je
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is another real strong suit of great comedy.
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druga jaka strana izvrsne komedije.
10:07
There are few phrases
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Postoji nekoliko fraza koje sadrže
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that pack a more concentrated dose of subject and symbol
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koncentriraniju dozu subjekta i simbola
10:12
than the perfect punchline.
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od savršenog vica.
10:14
Bill Hicks -- and if you don't know his work,
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Bill Hicks - ako ne poznajete njegov rad,
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you should really Google him --
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trebate ga guglati.
10:18
Hicks had a routine
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Hicks je imao naviku ulaziti
10:20
about getting into one of those childhood bragging contests on the playground,
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u ona dječja natjecanja u hvalisanju na igralištu,
10:23
where finally the other kid says to him,
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dok mu na kraju drugo dijete nije reklo:
10:25
"Huh? Well my dad can beat up your dad,"
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"Ha? E pa, moj tata može pretući tvog tatu",
10:28
to which Hicks replies,
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na što Hicks odgovara:
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"Really? How soon?"
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"Stvarno? Kad?"
10:32
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:37
That's an entire childhood
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Cijelo djetinjstvo
10:39
in three words.
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u par riječi.
10:41
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
10:44
Not to mention what it reveals
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Da ne kažem što to otkriva
10:46
about the adult who's speaking them.
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o odraslima koji razgovaraju s njima.
10:48
And one last powerful attribute
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Zadnji moćan atribut
10:50
that comedy has as communication
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koji komedija sama po sebi ima
10:52
is that it's inherently viral.
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jest iznimno brza komunikacija.
10:54
People can't wait
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Ljudi jedva čekaju
10:56
to pass along that new great joke.
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da prenesu taj novi super vic.
10:58
And this isn't some new phenomenon of our wired world.
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Nije to novi fenomen u našem umreženom svijetu.
11:01
Comedy has been crossing country
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Komedija je prelazila zemlju
11:03
with remarkable speed
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nevjerojatnom brzinom
11:05
way before the Internet, social media,
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prije interneta, društvenih mreža
11:07
even cable TV.
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pa čak i kablovske televizije.
11:09
Back in 1980
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Osamdesetih godina,
11:11
when comedian Richard Pryor accidentally set himself on fire
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kad se komičar Richard Pryor slučajno zapalio
11:14
during a freebasing accident,
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dok se drogirao,
11:16
I was in Los Angeles the day after it happened
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bio sam u Los Angelesu dan poslije,
11:18
and then I was in Washington D.C. two days after that.
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a u Washingtonu dva dana nakon toga.
11:22
And I heard the exact same punchline on both coasts --
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Čuo sam sasvim isti vic na obje obale -
11:25
something about the Ignited Negro College Fund.
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nešto o Ignited (umjesto United) Negro College Fundu.
11:29
Clearly, it didn't come out of a Tonight Show monologue.
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Očito nije proizašao iz monologa Tonight Showa.
11:33
And my guess here -- and I have no research on this --
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Nagađam - nisam to istraživao -
11:35
is that if you really were to look back at it and if you could research it,
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da kad biste to mogli istražiti,
11:38
you'd find out that comedy
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otkrili biste da je komedija
11:40
is the second oldest viral profession.
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drugo najstarije brzošireće zanimanje.
11:42
First there were drums
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Prvo su postojali bubnjevi,
11:44
and then knock-knock jokes.
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a zatim kuc-kuc šale.
11:46
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
11:48
But it's when you put all of these elements together --
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No, tek kad spojite sve te elemente -
11:51
when you get the viral appeal of a great joke
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kad dobijete brzošireću privlačnost izvrsnog vica
11:54
with a powerful punchline
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s moćnom poantom
11:56
that's crafted from honesty and integrity,
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koji je nastao iz poštenja i integriteta,
11:58
it can have a real world impact
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on može imati stvaran utjecaj na svijet
12:01
at changing a conversation.
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u mijenjanju razgovora.
12:03
Now I have a close friend, Joel Pett,
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Moj blizak prijatelj, Joel Pett,
12:05
who's the editorial cartoonist
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karikaturist je za uredničke članke
12:07
for the Lexington Herald-Leader.
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novina Lexington Herald-Leader.
12:09
And he used to be the USA Today Monday morning guy.
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Također je crtao za novine USA Today ponedjeljkom.
12:12
I was visiting with Joel
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Bio sam kod njega
12:14
the weekend before the Copenhagen conference on climate change opened
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vikend prije kopenhaške konferencije o klimatskim promjenama
12:17
in December of 2009.
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u prosincu 2009. godine.
12:19
And Joel was explaining to me
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Joel mi je objašnjavao da će ih,
12:21
that, because USA Today
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jer su USA Today bile
12:23
was one of America's four papers of record,
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jedne od četiriju velikih novina u Americi,
12:25
it would be scanned by virtually everyone in attendance at the conference,
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skoro svi sudionici konferencije prolistati,
12:29
which meant that, if he hit it out of the park with his cartoon
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što je značilo da će, ako "rasturi" s karikaturom u ponedjeljak,
12:32
on Monday, the opening day of the conference,
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prvi dan konferencije,
12:34
it could get passed around
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prelaziti iz ruke u ruku
12:36
at the highest level among actual decision-makers.
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na najvišoj razini među pravim moćnicima.
12:39
So we started talking about climate change.
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Tako smo počeli razgovarati o klimatskim promjenama.
12:42
And it turned out that Joel and I
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Pokazalo se da i Joelu i meni
12:44
were both bothered by the same thing,
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smeta isto,
12:46
which was how so much of the debate
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a to je koliko je debate
12:48
was still focused on the science
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još uvijek koncentrirano na znanost
12:50
and how complete it was or wasn't,
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i koliko je ona cjelovita,
12:52
which, to both of us,
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što se obojici
12:54
seems somewhat intentionally off point.
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činilo namjernim zaobilaženjem.
12:57
Because first of all, there's this false premise
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Prvo, postoji lažna premisa
13:00
that such a thing as complete science exists.
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da cjelovita znanost postoji.
13:04
Now Governor Perry of my newly-adopted state of Texas
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Guverner Texasa, moje upravo posvojene zemlje, Perry,
13:07
was pushing this same line this past summer
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ponavljao je istu frazu prošlo ljeto
13:10
at the beginning of his oops-fated campaign
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na početku svoje neuspješne kampanje
13:14
for the Republican presidential nomination,
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za republikansku predsjedničku nominaciju,
13:17
proclaiming over and over that the science wasn't complete
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neprestano izjavljujući da znanost nije cjelovita,
13:20
at the same time that 250
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dok je istovremeno 250
13:23
out of 254 counties in the state of Texas
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od 254 okruga države Texas
13:26
were on fire.
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gorjelo.
13:29
And Perry's policy solution
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A Perryjevo je rješenje bilo
13:31
was to ask the people of Texas
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moliti narod Texasa
13:33
to pray for rain.
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da moli za kišu.
13:36
Personally, I was praying for four more fires
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Osobno, molio sam se za još četiri požara
13:38
so we could finally complete the damn science.
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da napokon upotpunimo prokletu znanost.
13:41
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:46
But back in 2009,
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Međutim, 2009. godine,
13:48
the question Joel and I kept turning over and over
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pitanje koje smo si Joel i ja ponavljali
13:51
was why this late in the game
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bilo je zašto se ovako kasno
13:53
so much energy was being spent talking about the science
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toliko energije trošilo na razgovor o znanosti,
13:56
when the policies necessary to address climate change
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kada su politike potrebne za rješavanje klimatskih promjena
13:59
were unequivocally beneficial for humanity in the long run
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bile nepogrešivo korisne čovječanstvu na duge staze,
14:03
regardless of the science.
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bez obzira na znanost.
14:05
So we tossed it back and forth until Joel came up with this.
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Pretresali smo to dok se Joel nije dosjetio sljedeće karikature:
14:08
Cartoon: "What if it's a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?"
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"Što ako je ovo velika prijevara i mi stvorimo bolji svijet ni za što?"
14:16
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:19
You've got to love that idea.
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Mora vam se sviđati ta ideja.
14:21
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
14:28
How about that? How about we create a better world for nothing?
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Što ako stvorimo bolji svijet ni za što?
14:32
Not for God, not for country, not for profit --
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Ni za Boga, ni za domovinu, ni za profit -
14:35
just as a basic metric for global decision-making.
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samo kao osnovnu mjeru za globalno odlučivanje.
14:39
And this cartoon hit the bull's eye.
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Karikatura je pogodila "ravno u sridu".
14:42
Shortly after the conference was over,
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Nedugo nakon što je konferencija završila,
14:44
Joel got a request for a signed copy
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Joela je za potpisan primjerak zamolio
14:46
from the head of the EPA in Washington
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ravnatelj Agencije za zaštitu okoliša,
14:48
whose wall it now hangs on.
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na čijem zidu u Washingtonu sada visi.
14:50
And not long after that, he got another request for a copy
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Brzo nakon toga, za primjerak ga je zamolila
14:53
from the head of the EPA in California
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i ravnateljica iste agencije u Kaliforniji,
14:55
who used it as part of her presentation
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koja ga je iskoristila kao dio svoje prezentacije
14:58
at an international conference on climate change
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na međunarodnoj konferenciji o klimatskim promjenama
15:01
in Sacramento last year.
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u Sacramentu prošle godine.
15:03
And it didn't stop there.
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Nije se tu zaustavilo.
15:05
To date, Joel's gotten requests from over 40 environmental groups,
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Primjerke je dosad tražilo više od 40 grupa za zaštitu okoliša
15:08
in the United States, Canada and Europe.
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iz Sjedinjenih Država, Kanade i Europe.
15:11
And earlier this year,
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Ranije ove godine,
15:13
he got a request from the Green Party in Australia
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primio je molbu Zelenih iz Australije,
15:15
who used it in their campaign
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koji su karikaturu upotrijebili u kampanji
15:17
where it became part of the debate
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i gdje je postala dio debate
15:19
that resulted in the Australian parliament
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koja je rezultirala time da je australski parlament
15:22
adopting the most rigorous carbon tax regime
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usvojio najrigorozniji porez na ugljen
15:24
of any country in the world.
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na cijelom svijetu.
15:27
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
15:32
That is a lot of punch
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To je stvarno veliko postignuće
15:34
for 14 words.
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za 14 riječi.
15:37
So my suggestion to those of you out here
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Tako da je moj prijedlog vama koji ste
15:39
who are seriously focused on creating a better world
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ozbiljno fokusirani na stvaranje boljeg svijeta,
15:42
is to take a little bit of time each day
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da odvojite malo vremena svaki dan
15:44
and practice thinking funny,
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i da vježbate razmišljati na smiješan način,
15:47
because you might just find the question that you've been looking for.
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jer možda baš tako nađete pitanje koje ste tražili.
15:50
Thank you.
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Hvala.
15:52
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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