Nina Tandon: Could tissue engineering mean personalized medicine?

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2012-12-06 ・ TED


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Nina Tandon: Could tissue engineering mean personalized medicine?

128,367 views ・ 2012-12-06

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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Prevoditelj: Senzos Osijek Recezent: Ivan Stamenković
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I'd like to show you a video of some of the models
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Voljela bih vam pokazati snimku nekih od modela
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I work with.
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s kojima radim.
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They're all the perfect size, and they don't have an ounce of fat.
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Svi su savršene veličine i nemaju ni trunke masti.
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Did I mention they're gorgeous?
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Jesam li spomenula da su prekrasni?
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And they're scientific models? (Laughs)
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I da su znanstveni modeli? (Smijeh)
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As you might have guessed, I'm a tissue engineer,
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Kao što ste mogli pretpostaviti, ja sam tkivni inženjer,
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and this is a video of some of the beating heart
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a ovo je snimka kucajućeg srca
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that I've engineered in the lab.
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koje sam projektirala u labosu.
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And one day we hope that these tissues
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Nadamo se da će jednog dana ova tkiva
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can serve as replacement parts for the human body.
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služiti kao zamjena za dijelove ljudskog tijela.
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But what I'm going to tell you about today
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Ono o čemu ću danas pričati
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is how these tissues make awesome models.
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je kako ova tkiva čine odlične modele.
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Well, let's think about the drug screening process for a moment.
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Dobro, razmislimo na trenutak o testiranju lijekova.
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You go from drug formulation, lab testing, animal testing,
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Krećemo od stvaranja lijeka, testiranja u labosu, testiranja na životinjama
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and then clinical trials, which you might call human testing,
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zatim klinička testiranja, koja možemo zvati testiranjem na ljudima,
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before the drugs get to market.
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prije nego što se lijek pusti u prodaju.
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It costs a lot of money, a lot of time,
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Sve to zahtijeva puno novaca i vremena,
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and sometimes, even when a drug hits the market,
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a ponekad, čak i kad lijek dođe na tržište,
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it acts in an unpredictable way and actually hurts people.
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ponaša se nepredvidivo i našteti ljudima.
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And the later it fails, the worse the consequences.
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Što kasnije zakaže, to su gore posljedice.
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It all boils down to two issues. One, humans are not rats,
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Sve se svodi na dva problema. Prvo, ljudi nisu štakori,
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and two, despite our incredible similarities to one another,
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i drugo, unatoč našim nevjerojatnim međusobnim sličnostima,
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actually those tiny differences between you and I
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zapravo one sitne razlike između vas i mene
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have huge impacts with how we metabolize drugs
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imaju ogroman utjecaj na način na koji metaboliziramo lijekove
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and how those drugs affect us.
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i kako ti lijekovi utječu na nas.
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So what if we had better models in the lab
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Stoga, što bi bilo kada bi imali bolje modele u labosu,
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that could not only mimic us better than rats
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koji ne samo da će nas bolje oponašati od štakora
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but also reflect our diversity?
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već odražavati naše različitosti.
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Let's see how we can do it with tissue engineering.
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Pogledajmo kako to možemo postići s tkivnim inženjerstvom.
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One of the key technologies that's really important
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Jedna od ključnih tehnologija koja je uistinu važna
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is what's called induced pluripotent stem cells.
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je nešto što se naziva inducirane pluripotentne matične stanice.
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They were developed in Japan pretty recently.
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Razvijene su u Japanu, prilično nedavno.
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Okay, induced pluripotent stem cells.
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U redu, inducirane pluripotentne matične stanice.
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They're a lot like embryonic stem cells
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Vrlo su slične embrionalnim matičnim stanicama
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except without the controversy.
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osim što oko njih nema polemike.
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We induce cells, okay, say, skin cells,
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Induciramo stanice, u redu, recimo, stanice kože,
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by adding a few genes to them, culturing them,
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dodajući im par gena, uzgajamo ih,
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and then harvesting them.
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i onda ih pobiremo.
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So they're skin cells that can be tricked,
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Dakle, one su kožne stanice koje možemo prevariti
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kind of like cellular amnesia, into an embryonic state.
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u nešto poput stanične amnezije, u embrionalnom stanju.
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So without the controversy, that's cool thing number one.
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Stoga, bez diskusije, to je najzanimljivija stvar u vezi toga.
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Cool thing number two, you can grow any type of tissue
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Druga zanimljivost je ta da se iz njih mogu uzgajati sve vrste tkiva:
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out of them: brain, heart, liver, you get the picture,
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mozak, srce, jetra, razumijete,
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but out of your cells.
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ali od vaših stanica.
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So we can make a model of your heart, your brain
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Stoga, možemo napraviti model vašeg srca, mozga
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on a chip.
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na čipu.
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Generating tissues of predictable density and behavior
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Proizvodnja tkiva čija su gustoća i ponašanje predvidljivi
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is the second piece, and will be really key towards
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je drugi dio, i bit će zaista ključno za to
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getting these models to be adopted for drug discovery.
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da se usvoji korištenje ovih modela u otkrivanju lijekova.
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And this is a schematic of a bioreactor we're developing in our lab
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Ovo je shema bioreaktora kojeg smo razvili u labosu
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to help engineer tissues in a more modular, scalable way.
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kako bi pomogao u izradi tkiva na modularnije, skalarnije načine.
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Going forward, imagine a massively parallel version of this
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Zamislite, u budućnosti, masivnu paralelnu verziju ovoga
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with thousands of pieces of human tissue.
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s tisućama ljudskih tkiva.
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It would be like having a clinical trial on a chip.
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To bi bilo kao da imate klinička ispitivanja na čipu.
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But another thing about these induced pluripotent stem cells
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Druga stvar u vezi tih inducirnih pluripotentnih matičnih stanica
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is that if we take some skin cells, let's say,
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je ukoliko uzmemo neke kožne stanice, recimo,
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from people with a genetic disease
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od ljudi s genetskom bolesti
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and we engineer tissues out of them,
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i napravimo tkiva od njih,
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we can actually use tissue-engineering techniques
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možemo koristiti tkivne inženjerske tehnike
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to generate models of those diseases in the lab.
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kako bi napravili modele tih bolesti u labosu.
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Here's an example from Kevin Eggan's lab at Harvard.
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Ovdje imamo primjer iz labosa Kevina Eggana na Harvardu.
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He generated neurons
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On je proizveo neurone
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from these induced pluripotent stem cells
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od tih induciranih pluripotentnih matičnih stanica
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from patients who have Lou Gehrig's Disease,
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pacijenata koji imaju Lou Gehrigovu bolest,
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and he differentiated them into neurons, and what's amazing
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te ih je diferencirao u neurone, i ono što je zapanjujuće
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is that these neurons also show symptoms of the disease.
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je to da su ti neuroni pokazivali znakove te bolesti.
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So with disease models like these, we can fight back
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Dakle s modelima bolesti kao što su ove, možemo uzvratiti udarac
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faster than ever before and understand the disease better
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brže nego što smo to ikad prije mogli i možemo bolje razumjeti bolest
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than ever before, and maybe discover drugs even faster.
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nego ikad prije, i možda otkriti lijek još brže.
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This is another example of patient-specific stem cells
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Ovo je još jedan primjer matičnih stanica specifčnog pacijenta
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that were engineered from someone with retinitis pigmentosa.
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koje su stvorene od nekoga tko boluje od retinitis pigmentoze.
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This is a degeneration of the retina.
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To je degenerativna bolest retine.
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It's a disease that runs in my family, and we really hope
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To je bolest koja se javlja u mojoj obitelji, i stvaro se nadam
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that cells like these will help us find a cure.
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da će stanice poput ovih pomoći u pronalasku lijeka.
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So some people think that these models sound well and good,
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Neki ljudi misle da su ovi modeli odlična zamisao
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but ask, "Well, are these really as good as the rat?"
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ali pitaju: "Jesu li stvarno dobri poput štakora?"
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The rat is an entire organism, after all,
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Štakor je ipak cijeli organizam
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with interacting networks of organs.
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sa svim interakcijama organa.
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A drug for the heart can get metabolized in the liver,
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Lijek za srce se može metabolizirati u jetri,
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and some of the byproducts may be stored in the fat.
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i neki od nusprodukata se mogu pohraniti u masti.
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Don't you miss all that with these tissue-engineered models?
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Zar se sve to ne gubi s ovim modelom stvaranja tkiva?
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Well, this is another trend in the field.
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Ovo je drugi trend u ovom polju.
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By combining tissue engineering techniques with microfluidics,
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Kombiniranjem tehnike stvaranja tkiva s mikrofluidima,
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the field is actually evolving towards just that,
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polje zapravo napreduje upravo prema tome,
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a model of the entire ecosystem of the body,
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modelu cijelog ekosustava tijela,
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complete with multiple organ systems to be able to test
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potpunog sa raznim organskim sustavima da bi se testiralo
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how a drug you might take for your blood pressure
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kako lijekovi koje uzimate za krvni tlak
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might affect your liver or an antidepressant might affect your heart.
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možda utječu na vašu jetru ili antidepresivi na vaše srce.
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These systems are really hard to build, but we're just starting to be able to get there,
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Takve sustave je teško izgraditi, i tek krećemo prema tome,
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and so, watch out.
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zato, pazite se.
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But that's not even all of it, because once a drug is approved,
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Ali to nije sve, jer jednom kada je lijek odobren,
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tissue engineering techniques can actually help us develop more personalized treatments.
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tehnika razvoja tkiva može zapravo pomoći razviti osobniji tretman.
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This is an example that you might care about someday,
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Ovo je primjer onoga što bi vas zanimalo jednog dana,
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and I hope you never do,
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ali nadam se da neće,
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because imagine if you ever get that call
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jer zamislite ako dobijete taj poziv
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that gives you that bad news that you might have cancer.
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koji donosi lošu vijest da možda imate rak.
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Wouldn't you rather test to see if those cancer drugs
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Zar se ne bi ste radije testirali i vidjeli djeluju li ti lijekovi za rak
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you're going to take are going to work on your cancer?
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koje će te uzimati na vaš rak?
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This is an example from Karen Burg's lab, where they're
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Ovo je primjer iz labosa Karen Burg, gdje oni
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using inkjet technologies to print breast cancer cells
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koristeći se tehnologijom printanja printaju stanice raka dojke
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and study its progressions and treatments.
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i proučavaju njegov napredak i tretman.
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And some of our colleagues at Tufts are mixing models
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A neke od naših kolega na Turfu miješaju modele
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like these with tissue-engineered bone to see how cancer
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poput ovih sa stvorenim tkivom kosti i gledaju kako se rak
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might spread from one part of the body to the next,
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širi s jednog dijela tijela na drugi,
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and you can imagine those kinds of multi-tissue chips
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možete zamisliti čipove s različitim tkivima
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to be the next generation of these kinds of studies.
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kao sljedeću generaciju ovakvih studija.
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And so thinking about the models that we've just discussed,
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Razmislite o modelima koje smo upravo spomenuli,
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you can see, going forward, that tissue engineering
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vidite, napredujući, tkivni inženjirign
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is actually poised to help revolutionize drug screening
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bi mogao zapravo revolucionizirati razvoj lijekova
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at every single step of the path:
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u svakome koraku svoga puta:
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disease models making for better drug formulations,
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modeli bolesti pomažu u boljoj formulaciji lijekova,
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massively parallel human tissue models helping to revolutionize lab testing,
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masivni paralelni modeli ljudskih tkiva revolucionariziraju testiranje u labosima,
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reduce animal testing and human testing in clinical trials,
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smanjeno je testiranje na životinjama i kliničko testiranje na ljudima,
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and individualized therapies that disrupt
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i individualizirane terapije koje poništavaju
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what we even consider to be a market at all.
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ono što smo smatrali tržištem.
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Essentially, we're dramatically speeding up that feedback
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Zapravo, dramatično ubrzavamo povratnu informaciju
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between developing a molecule and learning about
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između razvoja molekule i proučavanja
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how it acts in the human body.
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kako djeluje na ljudsko tijelo.
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Our process for doing this is essentially transforming
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Napredak u tome je zapravo pretvorba
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biotechnology and pharmacology into an information technology,
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biotehnike i farmakologije u jednu informacijsku tehnologiju,
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helping us discover and evaluate drugs faster,
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pomažući nam razviti i procijeniti lijekove brže,
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more cheaply and more effectively.
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jeftinije i efikasnije.
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It gives new meaning to models against animal testing, doesn't it?
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dajući novo značenje modelima protiv testiranja na životinjama, zar ne?
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Thank you. (Applause)
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Hvala vam. (Pljesak)
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