How the NSA betrayed the world's trust -- time to act | Mikko Hypponen

Prevoditelj: Maja Covic Recezent: Ivan Stamenković

The two most likely largest inventions

Dva najvjerojatnije najveća izuma

of our generation

naše generacije

are the Internet and the mobile phone.

su internet i mobilni telefon.

They've changed the world.

Promijenili su svijet.

However, largely to our surprise,

No, na naše veliko iznenađenje,

they also turned out to be the perfect tools

pokazali se se i kao savršena oruđa

for the surveillance state.

sustava za nadziranje.

It turned out that the capability

Pokazalo se da je mogućnost

to collect data, information and connections

prikupljanja podataka, informacija i veza

about basically any of us and all of us

o ikome i svakome od nas

is exactly what we've been hearing

upravo ono o čemu smo slušali

throughout of the summer through revelations and leaks

tijekom ljeta kroz otkrivanja i curenja informacija

about Western intelligence agencies,

o zapadnjačkim obavještajnim službama,

mostly U.S. intelligence agencies,

većinom službama SAD-a,

watching over the rest of the world.

koje promatraju ostatak svijeta.

We've heard about these starting with the

O tome slušamo počevši od

revelations from June 6.

događaja koji su se zbili 6. lipnja.

Edward Snowden started leaking information,

Edward Snowden počeo je otkrivati informacije,

top secret classified information,

označene kao strogo povjerljive informacije,

from the U.S. intelligence agencies,

iz obavještajnih službi SAD-a,

and we started learning about things like PRISM

i mi smo saznali da postoje programi poput Prizme (PRISM)

and XKeyscore and others.

XKeyscorea i drugih.

And these are examples of the kinds of programs

Ovo su primjeri programa

U.S. intelligence agencies are running right now,

koje upravo sada provode obavještajne službe SAD-a,

against the whole rest of the world.

protiv cijelog ostatka svijeta.

And if you look back about the forecasts

Ako se osvrnete na predviđanja

on surveillance by George Orwell,

koja je George Orwell imao o nadziranju,

well it turns out that

ispostavilo se da je

George Orwell was an optimist.

George Orwell bio optimist.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

We are right now seeing a much larger scale

Sada vidimo mnogo višu razinu

of tracking of individual citizens

praćenja pojedinačnih građana

than he could have ever imagined.

nego što smo to uopće mogli zamisliti.

And this here is the infamous

Ovo ovdje je zloglasni

NSA data center in Utah.

NSA podatkovni centar u Uti.

Due to be opened very soon,

Planira se otvoriti vrlo skoro,

it will be both a supercomputing center

i to će biti ujedno i centar sa superkompjuterom

and a data storage center.

i centar za pohranu podataka.

You could basically imagine it has a large hall

Možete zamisliti da ima veliku dvoranu

filled with hard drives storing data

prepunu hard drive pogona za pohranu podataka

they are collecting.

koje prikupljaju.

And it's a pretty big building.

A to je jako velika zgrada.

How big? Well, I can give you the numbers --

Koliko velika? Pa, mogu vam iznijeti neke brojke -

140,000 square meters --

140.000 kvadratnih metara --

but that doesn't really tell you very much.

no to vam ne govori puno.

Maybe it's better to imagine it as a comparison.

Možda je bolje da je zamislimo u nekoj usporedbi.

You think about the largest IKEA store

Zamislite najveći Ikein dućan

you've ever been in.

u kojem ste ikada bili.

This is five times larger.

Ovo je pet puta veće.

How many hard drives can you fit in an IKEA store?

Koliko hard driva stane u Ikein dućan?

Right? It's pretty big.

Zar ne? Jako je veliko.

We estimate that just the electricity bill

Procjenjujemo da će samo račun za struju

for running this data center

koja će prokretati ovaj podatkovni centar

is going to be in the tens of millions of dollars a year.

iznositi desetke milijuna dolara godišnje.

And this kind of wholesale surveillance

Ovakva vrsta velenadziranja

means that they can collect our data

znači da oni mogu prikupljati naše podatke

and keep it basically forever,

i zapravo ih čuvati zauvijek,

keep it for extended periods of time,

čuvati ih na dulja vremenska razdoblja,

keep it for years, keep it for decades.

godinama, desetljećima.

And this opens up completely new kinds of risks

To donosi posve nove vrste rizika

to us all.

za sve nas.

And what this is is that it is wholesale

Ovo je zapravo sveobuhvatno

blanket surveillance on everyone.

velenadziranje svih nas.

Well, not exactly everyone,

Pa, ne baš sasvim svih,

because the U.S. intelligence only has a legal right

budući da SAD-ovo nadziranje samo ima zakonsko pravo

to monitor foreigners.

nadzirati strance.

They can monitor foreigners

Mogu nadzirati strance

when foreigners' data connections

kada podatkovne veze stranaca

end up in the United States or pass through the United States.

završe u SAD-u ili prođu kroz SAD.

And monitoring foreigners doesn't sound too bad

I nadziranje stranaca ne zvuči jako loše

until you realize

dok ne shvatite

that I'm a foreigner and you're a foreigner.

da sam ja stranac i da si ti stranac.

In fact, 96 percent of the planet are foreigners.

Zapravu, 96 posto planeta su stranci.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

Right?

Zar ne?

So it is wholesale blanket surveillance of all of us,

Tako da je to sveobuhvatno velenadziranje svih nas,

all of us who use telecommunications and the Internet.

svih nas koji koristimo telekomunikacije i internet.

But don't get me wrong:

No, nemojte me krivo shvatiti.

There are actually types of surveillance that are okay.

Postoje vrste nadzora koje su uredu.

I love freedom, but even I agree

Volim slobodu, no čak se i ja slažem

that some surveillance is fine.

da je neko nadziranje uredu.

If the law enforcement is trying to find a murderer,

Ako policija pokušava pronaći ubojicu,

or they're trying to catch a drug lord

ili pokušava uhvatiti narkobossa,

or trying to prevent a school shooting,

ili pokušava spriječiti pucnjavu u školi,

and they have leads and they have suspects,

i ima informacije i osumnjičenike,

then it's perfectly fine for them to tap the suspect's phone,

onda je sasvim uredu da prisluškuju osumnjičenikov telefon

and to intercept his Internet communications.

i da presreću njegovu komunikaciju na internetu.

I'm not arguing that at all,

Ne govorim protiv toga,

but that's not what programs like PRISM are about.

no time se ne bave programi poput Prizme.

They are not about doing surveillance on people

Oni ne nadziru ljude

that they have reason to suspect of some wrongdoings.

za koje imaju razlog sumnjati za kriminalna djela.

They're about doing surveillance on people

Oni se bave nadziranjem ljudi

they know are innocent.

za koje znaju da su nedužni.

So the four main arguments

Četiri glavna argumenta

supporting surveillance like this,

koji podupiru ovakvo nadziranje su:

well, the first of all is that whenever you start

prvo, da kad god počnete

discussing about these revelations,

raspravljati o ovakvim otkrićima

there will be naysayers trying to minimize

pojavit će se poricatelji koji će pokušati umanjiti

the importance of these revelations, saying that

važnost tih otkrića, tvrdeći da

we knew all this already,

smo sve to već znali,

we knew it was happening, there's nothing new here.

znali smo da se to događa, ništa novog.

And that's not true. Don't let anybody tell you

A to nije istina. Ne dajte da vam itko govori

that we knew this already, because we did not know this already.

da smo to već znali, jer to nismo znali.

Our worst fears might have been something like this,

Naši najveći strahovi su možda uključivali ovakvo nešto,

but we didn't know this was happening.

no nismo znali da se to događa.

Now we know for a fact it's happening.

Sada zaista znamo da se to događa.

We didn't know about this. We didn't know about PRISM.

Nismo znali za to. Nismo znali za Prizmu.

We didn't know about XKeyscore. We didn't know about Cybertrans.

Nismo znali za XKeyscore. Nismo znali za Cybertrans.

We didn't know about DoubleArrow.

Nismo znali za DoubleArrow.

We did not know about Skywriter --

Nismo znali za Skywriter --

all these different programs

sve ove različite programe

run by U.S. intelligence agencies.

koje provode obavještajne službe SAD-a.

But now we do.

No sada znamo.

And we did not know

Niti smo znali

that U.S. intelligence agencies go to extremes

da obavještajne službe SAD-a idu do te krajnosti

such as infiltrating standardization bodies

da se, na primjer, ubace u standardizacijska tijela

to sabotage encryption algorithms on purpose.

kako bi namjerno sabotirali algoritme šifriranja.

And what that means

Što to znači

is that you take something which is secure,

je to da uzmete nešto što je zaštićeno,

an encryption algorithm which is so secure

algoritam šifriranja koji je tako zaštićen

that if you use that algorithm to encrypt one file,

da ako ga upotrijebite za šifriranje jednog dokumenta,

nobody can decrypt that file.

nitko ga ne može odšifrirati.

Even if they take every single computer on the planet just to decrypt that one file,

Čak i ako uzmu apsolutno svako računalo na planeti, samo da dešifriraju taj jedan dokument,

it's going to take millions of years.

za to će trebati milijuni godina.

So that's basically perfectly safe, uncrackable.

To zapravo znači savršeno sigurno, neprobojno.

You take something which is that good

Uzmete nešto tako dobro

and then you weaken it on purpose,

i onda to namjerno oslabite,

making all of us less secure as an end result.

čineći sve nas manje sigurnima kao krajnji rezultat toga.

A real-world equivalent would be that

Stvarni ekvivalent toga bilo bi to da

intelligence agencies would force

obavještajne službe uvedu

some secret pin code into every single house alarm

neku tajnu šifru u svaki kućni alarm

so they could get into every single house

kako bi mogle mogle ući u svaku kuću

because, you know, bad people might have house alarms,

jer, znate, i zli ljudi bi mogli imati kućne alarme,

but it will also make all of us

no to će ujedno i sve nas

less secure as an end result.

učiniti manje sigurnima.

Backdooring encryption algorithms

Neovlašteno rukovanje algoritmima šifriranja

just boggles the mind.

jednostavno je zaprepašćujuće.

But of course, these intelligence agencies are doing their job.

Ali naravno, te obavještajne službe rade svoj posao.

This is what they have been told to do:

To im je rečeno da rade:

do signals intelligence,

prikupljati podatke putem signala,

monitor telecommunications,

nadzirati telekomunikacije,

monitor Internet traffic.

nadzirati internetski promet.

That's what they're trying to do,

To oni pokušavaju raditi,

and since most, a very big part of the Internet traffic today is encrypted,

a budući da je danas veliki dio intenetskog prometa šifriran,

they're trying to find ways around the encryption.

pokušavaju pronaći načine kako zobići šifre.

One way is to sabotage encryption algorithms,

Jedan od načina je da sabotiraju algoritme šifriranja,

which is a great example

što je odličan primjer toga

about how U.S. intelligence agencies

kako su SAD-ove obavještajne službe

are running loose.

puštene s lanca.

They are completely out of control,

Potpuno su izvan kontrole,

and they should be brought back under control.

i trebalo bi ih se vratiti pod kontrolu.

So what do we actually know about the leaks?

Što točno znamo o tom curenju tajnih podataka?

Everything is based on the files

Sve se temelji na dokumentima

leaked by Mr. Snowden.

koje je otkrio g. Snowden.

The very first PRISM slides

Prvi slajdovi Prizme

from the beginning of June

s početka lipnja

detail a collection program where the data

detaljno iznose program za prikupljanje, gdje se podaci

is collected from service providers,

prikupljaju od davatelja usluga,

and they actually go and name the service providers

i oni zapravo imenuju davatelje usluga

they have access to.

kojima imaju pristup.

They even have a specific date

Čak imaju i točno određeni datum

on when the collection of data began

kada je počelo prikupljanje podataka

for each of the service providers.

za svaki od tih davatelja usluga.

So for example, they name the collection from Microsoft

Na primjer, navode prikupljanje od Microsofta

started on September 11, 2007,

koje je započelo 11. rujna 2007,

for Yahoo on the March 12, 2008,

za Yahoo 12. ožujka 2008,

and then others: Google, Facebook,

a potom i ostale: Google, Facebook,

Skype, Apple and so on.

Skype, Apple i tako dalje.

And every single one of these companies denies.

A svaka od tih tvrtki to poriče.

They all say that this simply isn't true,

Sve tvrde da to nije istina,

that they are not giving backdoor access to their data.

da ne daju neovlašten pristup svojim podacima.

Yet we have these files.

No, svejedno imamo te dokumente.

So is one of the parties lying,

Laže li onda jedna od strana,

or is there some other alternative explanation?

ili postoji neko drugo objašnjenje?

And one explanation would be

Jedno od objašnjenja bilo bi to

that these parties, these service providers,

da te strane, ti davatelji usluga,

are not cooperating.

ne surađuju.

Instead, they've been hacked.

Umjesto toga su bili hakirani.

That would explain it. They aren't cooperating. They've been hacked.

To bi sve objasnilo. Ne surađuju. Bili su hakirani.

In this case, they've been hacked by their own government.

U tom slučaju, hakirala ih je vlastita vlada.

That might sound outlandish,

To možda zvuči neobično,

but we already have cases where this has happened,

no već postoje slučajevi kada se to dogodilo.

for example, the case of the Flame malware

Na primjer, slučaj zloćudnog softvera Flame

which we strongly believe was authored

za kojeg odlučno tvrdimo da ga je stvorila

by the U.S. government,

vlada SAD-a,

and which, to spread, subverted the security

i koji je, da bi se proširio, srušio zaštitu

of the Windows Update network,

Windows Update mreže,

meaning here, the company was hacked

što znači da je tvrtku hakirala

by their own government.

vlastita vlada.

And there's more evidence

I postoji još dokaza

supporting this theory as well.

koji potkrepljuju ovu teoriju.

Der Spiegel, from Germany, leaked more information

Njemački list Der Spiegel procurio je još informacija

about the operations run by the elite hacker units

o aktivnostima koje vode elitni hakerski odjeli

operating inside these intelligence agencies.

koji djeluju unutar tih obavještajnih službi.

Inside NSA, the unit is called TAO,

Unutar NSA odjel se zove TAO,

Tailored Access Operations,

"Tailored Access Operations" (Operacije za usklađeni pristup),

and inside GCHQ, which is the U.K. equivalent,

a unutar GCHQ, koji je britanski ekvivalent NSA,

it's called NAC, Network Analysis Centre.

zove se NAC, "Network Analysis Centre" (Centar za analizu mreže).

And these recent leaks of these three slides

Ovo nedavno razotkrivanje triju slajdova Prizme

detail an operation

detaljno prikazuje operacije

run by this GCHQ intelligence agency

koje provodi ta obavještajna služba GCWQ

from the United Kingdom

iz Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva

targeting a telecom here in Belgium.

ciljajući na telekominikacije ovdje u Belgiji.

And what this really means

Što to zaista znači

is that an E.U. country's intelligence agency

je da obavještajna služba jedne članice EU

is breaching the security

probija zaštitu

of a telecom of a fellow E.U. country on purpose,

telekomunikacija druge članice EU namjerno,

and they discuss it in their slides completely casually,

a na tim slajdovima o tome govore sasvim ležerno,

business as usual.

ništa posebno.

Here's the primary target,

"Ovo je primarna meta,

here's the secondary target,

ovo je sekundarna meta,

here's the teaming.

ovo je udruženje."

They probably have a team building on Thursday evening in a pub.

Vjerojatno imaju team building četvrtom navečer u pubu.

They even use cheesy PowerPoint clip art

Čak koriste neukusne Power Point crteže

like, you know, "Success,"

poput "Uspjeh,"

when they gain access to services like this.

kada dobiju pristup takvim uslugama.

What the hell?

Koji vrag?

And then there's the argument

A tu je i argument

that okay, yes, this might be going on,

da, uredu, to se možda događa,

but then again, other countries are doing it as well.

ali i druge države rade to isto.

All countries spy.

Sve države špijuniraju.

And maybe that's true.

I to je možda točno.

Many countries spy, not all of them, but let's take an example.

Mnoge države špijuniraju, ne sve, no uzmimo primjer.

Let's take, for example, Sweden.

Uzmimo, na primjer, Švedsku.

I'm speaking of Sweden because Sweden

Govorim o Švedskoj jer ona

has a little bit of a similar law to the United States.

ima zakone slične onima u SAD-a.

When your data traffic goes through Sweden,

Kada vaš podatkovni promet prolazi kroz Švedsku,

their intelligence agency has a legal right by the law

njihova obavještajna služba ima zakonsko pravo

to intercept that traffic.

presretati taj promet.

All right, how many Swedish decisionmakers

U redu, koliko švedskih donositelja odluka

and politicians and business leaders

i političara i poslovnih vođa

use, every day, U.S.-based services,

svakodnevno koriste usluge koje dolaze iz SAD-a,

like, you know, run Windows or OSX,

poput, Windowsa ili OSX-a,

or use Facebook or LinkedIn,

ili koriste Facebook ili LinkedIn,

or store their data in clouds like iCloud

ili pohranjuju svoje podatke u oblacima poput iClouda

or Skydrive or DropBox,

ili Skydrivea ili DropBoxa,

or maybe use online services like Amazon web services or sales support?

ili koriste internetske servise poput Amazona ili one za podršku prodaje?

And the answer is, every single Swedish business leader does that every single day.

A odgovor je: svaki švedski poslovni vođa to čini svakog dana.

And then we turn it around.

A onda to preokrenemo.

How many American leaders

Koliko američkih vođa

use Swedish webmails and cloud services?

koriste švedske e-pošte na internetu i "cloud" usluge?

And the answer is zero.

Odgovor je nula.

So this is not balanced.

To nije usklađeno.

It's not balanced by any means, not even close.

Nema ravnoteže ni u kom pogledu. Ni približno.

And when we do have the occasional

A i kada se povremeno pojavi

European success story,

neka priča o uspjehu u Europi,

even those, then, typically end up being sold to the United States.

čak i te priče tipično završe tako da su prodane SAD-u.

Like, Skype used to be secure.

Poput Skypea koji je nekoć bio siguran.

It used to be end-to-end encrypted.

Bio je potpuno šifriran.

Then it was sold to the United States.

A zatim je bio prodan SAD-u.

Today, it no longer is secure.

Danas više nije siguran.

So once again, we take something which is secure

I tako opet, uzmemo nešto što je sigurno

and then we make it less secure on purpose,

i zatim to namjerno učinimo manje sigurnim,

making all of us less secure as an outcome.

čineći sve nas manje sigurnima, kao krajnji rezultat.

And then the argument that the United States

Zatim, argument da se SAD

is only fighting terrorists.

samo bori protiv terorista.

It's the war on terror.

Rat protiv terora.

You shouldn't worry about it.

Ne biste se trebali brinuti oko toga.

Well, it's not the war on terror.

Pa, ne radi se o ratu protiv terora.

Yes, part of it is war on terror, and yes,

Da, djelomice to jest rat protiv terora, i da,

there are terrorists, and they do kill and maim,

postoje teroristi, i oni ubijaju i sakate,

and we should fight them,

i trebali bismo se boriti protiv njih,

but we know through these leaks

no, zbog ovih curenja informacija znamo

that they have used the same techniques

da su iste metode koristili

to listen to phone calls of European leaders,

za prisluškivanje telefonskih poziva europskih vođa,

to tap the email of residents of Mexico and Brazil,

za presretanje emailova stanovnika Meksika i Brazila,

to read email traffic inside the United Nations Headquarters and E.U. Parliament,

za čitanje email prometa unutar Sjedišta Ujedinjenih naroda i Europskog parlamenta,

and I don't think they are trying to find terrorists

i nemojte misliti da pokušavaju pronaći teroriste

from inside the E.U. Parliament, right?

unutar EU parlamenta.

It's not the war on terror.

To nije rat protiv terorizma.

Part of it might be, and there are terrorists,

Djelomično možda jest, i istina je da postoje teroristi,

but are we really thinking about terrorists

no gledamo li mi na teroriste

as such an existential threat

kao takvu egzistencijalnu prijetnju

that we are willing to do anything at all to fight them?

da smo spremni učiniti bilo što kako bismo se borili protiv njih?

Are the Americans ready to throw away the Constituion

Jesu li Amerikanci spremni odbaciti svoj ustav

and throw it in the trash just because there are terrorists?

i baciti ga u smeće samo zbog toga što ima terorista?

And the same thing with the Bill of Rights and all the amendments

I ista stvar je s Poveljom o pravima i svim amandmanima

and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

i Općom deklaracijom o pravima čovjeka

and the E.U. conventions on human rights and fundamental freedoms

i europskim konvencijama o ljudskim pravima i temeljnim slobodama

and the press freedom?

i slobodi tiska.

Do we really think terrorism is such an existential threat,

Mislimo li zaista da je terorizam takva egzistencijalna prijetnja

we are ready to do anything at all?

da smo spremni učiniti bilo što?

But people are scared about terrorists,

No, ljudi se boje terorista,

and then they think that maybe that surveillance is okay

i zato misle da je nadziranje možda u redu

because they have nothing to hide.

jer nemaju razloga da išta skrivaju.

Feel free to survey me if that helps.

"Slobodno me nadziri ako to pomaže."

And whoever tells you that they have nothing to hide

Tko god vam kaže da nema što skrivati

simply hasn't thought about this long enough.

jednostavno nije dovoljno dugo o ovome promislio.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

Because we have this thing called privacy,

Jer postoji nešto što se zove privatnost,

and if you really think that you have nothing to hide,

i ako zaista mislite da nemate ništa skrivati,

please make sure that's the first thing you tell me,

pobrinite se da je to prvo što ćete mi reći,

because then I know

jer onda znam

that I should not trust you with any secrets,

da vam ne smijem povjeriti nikakve tajne,

because obviously you can't keep a secret.

jer očigledno ne znate čuvati tajnu.

But people are brutally honest with the Internet,

No, ljudi su brutalno iskreni s internetom,

and when these leaks started,

i kada su ove informacije počele curiti,

many people were asking me about this.

mnogi su me pitali o tome.

And I have nothing to hide.

Nemam što skrivati.

I'm not doing anything bad or anything illegal.

Ne radim ništa loše ili nezakonito.

Yet, I have nothing that I would in particular

No, nemam ništa što bih posebno

like to share with an intelligence agency,

volio podijeliti s obavještajnom službom,

especially a foreign intelligence agency.

posebice stranom obavještajnom službom.

And if we indeed need a Big Brother,

I ako nam je zaista potreban Veliki Brat,

I would much rather have a domestic Big Brother

radije bih imao domaćeg Velikog Brata

than a foreign Big Brother.

nego stranog Velikog Brata.

And when the leaks started, the very first thing I tweeted about this

Kada su informacije počele curiti, prva stvar o kojoj sam tweetao

was a comment about how,

bila je komentar o tome kako,

when you've been using search engines,

kada koristimo internetske tražilice,

you've been potentially leaking all that to U.S. intelligence.

potencijalno dajemo o tome informacije obavještajcima iz SAD-a.

And two minutes later, I got a reply

Dvije minute nakon toga dobio sam odgovor

by somebody called Kimberly from the United States

od Kimberly iz SAD-a,

challenging me, like, why am I worried about this?

koja mi se usprotivila i pitala zašto se brinem oko toga?

What am I sending to worry about this? Am I sending naked pictures or something?

Što ja to šaljem da se brinem oko toga? Šaljem li gole slike?

And my answer to Kimberly was

Moj odgovor Kimberly bio je

that what I'm sending is none of your business,

da ono što ja šaljem je se ne tiče,

and it should be none of your government's business either.

i da se ne bi trebalo ticati ni njene vlade.

Because that's what it's about. It's about privacy.

Jer o tome se i radi. O privatnosti.

Privacy is nonnegotiable.

Privatnost je beskompromisna.

It should be built in to all the systems we use.

Trebala bi biti ugrađena u sve sustave koje koristimo.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

And one thing we should all understand

Jedna stvar koju bismo svi trebali razumjeti

is that we are brutally honest with search engines.

je da smo brutalno iskreni s internetskim tražilicama.

You show me your search history,

Pokažite mi povijest svoje tražilice

and I'll find something incriminating

i pronaći ću nešto inkriminirajuće

or something embarrassing there in five minutes.

ili nešto sramotno u pet minuta.

We are more honest with search engines

Iskreniji smo s tražilicama

than we are with our families.

nego s našim obiteljima.

Search engines know more about you

Tražilice znaju više o vama

than your family members know about you.

nego članovi vaše obitelji.

And this is all the kind of information we are giving away,

A to su sve informacije koje dajemo,

we are giving away to the United States.

dajemo ih SAD-u.

And surveillance changes history.

Nadziranje mijenja povijest.

We know this through examples of corrupt presidents like Nixon.

Znamo to kroz primjere korumpiranih predsjednika, poput Nixona.

Imagine if he would have had the kind of surveillance tools that are available today.

Zamislite da smo tada imali takve alate za nadziranje kakve imamo danas.

And let me actually quote

Dopustite mi da citiram

the president of Brazil, Ms. Dilma Rousseff.

predsjednicu Brazila, gđu. Dilmu Rousseff.

She was one of the targets of NSA surveillance.

Ona je bila jedna od meta koje je nadzirala NSA.

Her email was read, and she spoke

Čitali su njezinu epoštu, a ona je držala govor

at the United Nations Headquarters, and she said,

u Sjedištu Ujedinjenih naroda, i rekla je,

"If there is no right to privacy,

"Ako ne postoji pravo na privatnost,

there can be no true freedom of expression and opinion,

ne može postojati niti istinska sloboda izražavanja i mišljenja

and therefore, there can be no effective democracy."

i stoga ne može postojati ni djelotvorna demokracija."

That's what it's about.

O tome se radi.

Privacy is the building block of our democracies.

Privatnost je sastavni dio naših demokracija.

And to quote a fellow security researcher, Marcus Ranum,

Da citiram kolegu istraživača sigurnosti, Marcusa Ranuma,

he said that the United States is right now treating the Internet

rekao je da se SAD odnosi prema internetu

as it would be treating one of its colonies.

kao što bi se odnosio prema jednoj od svojih kolonija.

So we are back to the age of colonization,

Tako smo se vratili u doba kolonizacije,

and we, the foreign users of the Internet,

a mi, strani korisnici interneta,

we should think about Americans as our masters.

trebali bismo gledati na Amerikance kao na naše gospodare.

So Mr. Snowden, he's been blamed for many things.

G. Snowdena se krivi za razne stvari.

Some are blaming him for causing problems

Neki ga krive za izazivanje problema

for the U.S. cloud industry and software companies with these revelations --

za američku "cloud" industriju i softverske tvrtke s ovim otkrićima --

and blaming Snowden for causing problems for the U.S. cloud industry

a kriviti Snowdena za izazivanje problema za američku "cloud" industriju

would be the equivalent of blaming Al Gore

bilo bi ekvivalentno tome da krivimo Ala Gorea

for causing global warming.

za izazivanje globalnog zatopljenja.

(Laughter)

(Smijeh)

(Applause)

(Pljesak)

So, what is there to be done?

I što se onda može učiniti?

Should we worry. No, we shouldn't worry.

Bismo li se trebali brinuti? Ne, ne bismo se trebali brinuti.

We should be angry, because this is wrong,

Trebali bismo biti ljuti, jer je ovo loše,

and it's rude, and it should not be done.

i ružno, i ne bi se smjelo činiti.

But that's not going to really change the situation.

No to neće zaista promijeniti situaciju.

What's going to change the situation for the rest of the world

Ono što će promijeniti situaciju za ostatak svijeta

is to try to steer away

je pokušaj da se udalji

from systems built in the United States.

od sustava izgrađenih u SAD-u.

And that's much easier said than done.

A to je mnogo lakše reći nego učiniti.

How do you do that?

Kako to napraviti?

A single country, any single country in Europe

Jedna država, bilo koja pojedinačna država u Europi

cannot replace and build replacements

ne može zamijeniti i izgraditi nadomjestke

for the U.S.-made operating systems and cloud services.

za američke operacijske sustave i "cloud" usluge.

But maybe you don't have to do it alone.

No možda to ne mora napraviti sama.

Maybe you can do it together with other countries.

Možda to može napraviti zajedno s ostalim državama.

The solution is open source.

Rješenje je otvoreni kod.

By building together open, free, secure systems,

Gradeći zajedno otvorene, slobodne, sigurne sustave,

we can go around such surveillance,

možemo zaobići takva nadziranja,

and then one country doesn't have to solve the problem by itself.

i tada jedna država ne treba sama rješavati problem.

It only has to solve one little problem.

Treba samo rješiti jedan mali problem.

And to quote a fellow security researcher, Haroon Meer,

Da citiram kolegu istražitelja sigurnosti, Haroona Meera,

one country only has to make a small wave,

jedna država treba samo napraviti maleni val,

but those small waves together become a tide,

no ti maleni valovi zajedno postaju plima,

and the tide will lift all the boats up at the same time,

a plima će istovremeno podići sve brodice,

and the tide we will build

i plima koju ćemo izgraditi

with secure, free, open-source systems,

sa sigurnim, slobodnim sustavima otvorenog koda

will become the tide that will lift all of us

postat će plima koja će nas sve podići

up and above the surveillance state.

iznad sustava nadziranja.

Thank you very much.

Hvala vam najljepša.

(Applause)

(Pljesak)