Ursus Wehrli: Tidying up art

Prevoditelj: Romana Perković Recezent: Predrag Pale

My name is Ursus Wehrli, and I would like to talk to you this morning

Moje ime je Ursus Wehrli i htio bih vam pričati

about my project, Tidying Up Art.

o mom projektu, Uređivanju umjetnosti.

First of all -- any questions so far?

Prvo – ima li nekih pitanja do sada?

First of all, I have to say I'm not from around here.

Moram reći da ja nisam odavde.

I'm from a completely different cultural area, maybe you noticed?

Ja sam iz potpuno drugačije kulture, možda ste primijetili?

I mean, I'm wearing a tie, first. And then secondly, I'm a little bit nervous

Mislim, prvo, nosim kravatu. Drugo, malo sam nervozan

because I'm speaking in a foreign language,

zato što pričam stranim jezikom

and I want to apologize in advance, for any mistakes I might make.

i želim se ispričati unaprijed za sve pogreške koje učinim.

Because I'm from Switzerland, and I just don't hope you think this is Swiss German

Zato jer sam iz Švicarske i nadam se da ne mislite da je ovo švicarsko-njemački jezik

I'm speaking now here. This is just what it sounds like

kojim sada pričam. Ovo je samo onako kako zvuči kada

if we Swiss try to speak American.

mi Švicarci probamo pričati američki.

But don't worry -- I don't have trouble with English, as such.

Ali ne brinite – nemam problema s engleskim, kao takvim.

I mean, it's not my problem, it's your language after all.

Mislim, nije to moj problem, to je vaš jezik.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

I am fine. After this presentation here at TED, I can simply go back to Switzerland,

Meni je dobro. Poslije ove prezentacije na TED-u, mogu se slobodno vratiti u Švicarsku,

and you have to go on talking like this all the time.

a vi morate pričati ovako cijelo vrijeme.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

So I've been asked by the organizers to read from my book.

Organizator me zmolio da čitam iz svoje knjige.

It's called "Tidying Up Art" and it's, as you can see,

Zove se – Uređivanje umjetnosti i, kao što vidite,

it's more or less a picture book.

to je manje ili više slikovnica.

So the reading would be over very quickly.

Čitanje bi jako brzo završilo.

But since I'm here at TED, I decided to hold my talk here in a more modern way,

Ali kada sam već na TED-u, odlučio sam održati govor ovdje na moderan način,

in the spirit of TED here, and I managed to do some slides here for you.

u duhu TED-a, načinio sam nekoliko slajdova za vas.

I'd like to show them around so we can just, you know --

Pokazao bih vam ih, tako da možemo, znate –

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Actually, I managed to prepare for you some enlarged pictures -- even better.

Zapravo, uspio sam vam prirediti neke povećane slike – još bolje.

So Tidying Up Art, I mean, I have to say, that's a relatively new term.

Uređivanje umjetnosti, moram reći, to je relativno novi pojam.

You won't be familiar with it.

Još vam nije poznat.

I mean, it's a hobby of mine that I've been indulging in for the last few years,

To je moj hobi kojemu se odajem posljednjih nekoliko godina.

and it all started out with this picture of the American artist, Donald Baechler

Sve je počelo sa slikom američkog umjetnika, Donalda Baechlera,

I had hanging at home. I had to look at it every day

koja mi je visjela na zidu kod kuće. Morao sam je gledati svaki dan

and after a while I just couldn't stand the mess anymore

i nakon nekog vremena nisam više mogao podnijeti nered

this guy was looking at all day long.

koji je ovaj tip gledao cijeli dan.

Yeah, I kind of felt sorry for him.

Malo mi ga je bilo nekako žao.

And it seemed to me even he felt really bad

Činilo mi se da se čak i on osjećao loše

facing these unorganized red squares day after day.

gledajući u ove neorganizirane crvene kvadrate dan za danom.

So I decided to give him a little support,

Pa sam mu odlučio malo pomoći

and brought some order into neatly stacking the blocks on top of each other.

i unijeti neki red u to, uredno slažući kocke jednu na drugu.

(Laughter)

(smijeh) Jee

Yeah. And I think he looks now less miserable.

Mislim da sad izgleda manje nesretno.

And it was great. With this experience, I started to look more closely

Bilo je odlično. S ovim iskustvom, počeo sam gledati malo temeljitije

at modern art. Then I realized how, you know, the world of modern art

na modernu umjetnost. Shvatio sam tada da je svijet moderne umjetnosti

is particularly topsy-turvy.

naročito zbrkan.

And I can show here a very good example.

Mogu vam pokazati jako dobar primjer.

It's actually a simple one, but it's a good one to start with.

Jednostavan je, ali je jako dobar za početak.

It's a picture by Paul Klee.

To je Paul Kleeova slika.

And we can see here very clearly, it's a confusion of color.

Možemo jasno vidjeti da je to zbunjenost boja.

(Laughter)

(smijeh) Je

Yeah. The artist doesn't really seem to know where to put the different colors.

Umjetnik očito ne zna gdje da stavi različite boje.

The various pictures here of the various elements of the picture --

Razne slike od različitih elemenata slike -

the whole thing is unstructured.

cijela stvar je nestrukturirana.

We don't know, maybe Mr. Klee was probably in a hurry, I mean --

Ne znamo, možda je gosp. Klee bio u žurbi,

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

-- maybe he had to catch a plane, or something.

možda je morao stići na avion, ili nešto.

We can see here he started out with orange,

Možemo vidjeti da je počeo s narančastom

and then he already ran out of orange,

i već mu je ponestalo narančaste.

and here we can see he decided to take a break for a square.

Ovdje možemo vidjeti da je odlučio uzeti pauzu za kvadrat.

And I would like to show you here my tidied up version of this picture.

Htio bih vam pokazati moju uređeniju verziju ove slike.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

We can see now what was barely recognizable in the original:

Ovdje možemo vidjeti nešto što je bilo jedva prepoznatljivo u originalu:

17 red and orange squares are juxtaposed with just two green squares.

17 crvenih i narančastih kvadrata nasuprot dva zelena kvadrata.

Yeah, that's great.

Da, odlično je.

So I mean, that's just tidying up for beginners.

Mislim, to je sređivanje umjetnosti za početnike.

I would like to show you here a picture which is a bit more advanced.

Htio bih da vidite sliku koja je malo naprednija.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

What can you say? What a mess.

Što biste rekli? Koji nered!

I mean, you see, everything seems to have been scattered aimlessly around the space.

Vidite, sve se čini kao da je raspršeno bez cilja po prostoru.

If my room back home had looked like this,

Da je moja soba doma izgledala ovako,

my mother would have grounded me for three days.

moja majka bi mi zabranila izlaske na tri dana.

So I'd like to -- I wanted to reintroduce some structure into that picture.

Pa bih želio – želio bih ponovno uvesti neku strukturu u ovu sliku.

And that's really advanced tidying up.

To je zbilja napredno sređivanje.

(Applause)

(pljesak)

Yeah, you're right. Sometimes people clap at this point,

Da, u pravu ste. Nekada ljudi plješću u ovom trenutku,

but that's actually more in Switzerland.

ali to rade pretežito u Švicarskoj.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

We Swiss are famous for chocolate and cheese. Our trains run on time.

Mi, Švicarci, poznati smo po čokoladi i siru. Naši vlakovi stižu na vrijeme.

We are only happy when things are in order.

Sretni smo samo kada stvari imaju neki red.

But to go on, here is a very good example to see.

No nastavimo, evo jedan vrlo dobar primjer.

This is a picture by Joan Miro.

Ovo je slika Joana Miroa.

And yeah, we can see the artist has drawn a few lines and shapes

Možemo vidjeti da je umjetnik nacrtao nekoliko linija i oblika

and dropped them any old way onto a yellow background.

i bacio ih na žutu pozadinu kako je htio.

And yeah, it's the sort of thing you produce when you're doodling on the phone.

Da, tako nešto vi napravite dok visite na telefonu.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

And this is my --

A ovo je moje –

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

-- you can see now the whole thing takes up far less space.

– možete vidjeti da cijela ta stvar sada zauzima puno manje mjesta.

It's more economical and also more efficient.

Ekonomičnije je i učinkovitije.

With this method Mr. Miro could have saved canvas for another picture.

Ovom metodom gosp. Miro je mogao sačuvati platno za drugu sliku.

But I can see in your faces that you're still a little bit skeptical.

Vidim vam na licima da ste još malo skeptični.

So that you can just appreciate how serious I am about all this,

Tek toliko da možete cijeniti koliko sam ozbiljan oko ovoga,

I brought along the patents, the specifications for some of these works,

donio sam patente, specifikacije za neka od tih dijela,

because I've had my working methods patented

jer sam svoje metode rada patentirao pri

at the Eidgenössische Amt für Geistiges Eigentum in Bern, Switzerland.

Državnom zavodu za intelektualno vlasništvo u Bernu, Švicarska.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

I'll just quote from the specification.

Citirat ću iz specifikacije.

"Laut den Kunstprüfer Dr. Albrecht --"

"Laut den Kunstprüfer Dr. Albrecht --"

It's not finished yet.

Nije još kraj.

"Laut den Kunstprüfer Dr. Albrecht Götz von Ohlenhusen

"Laut den Kunstprüfer Dr. Albrecht Götz von Ohlenhusen

wird die Verfahrensweise rechtlich geschützt welche die Kunst

wird die Verfahrensweise rechtlich geschützt welche die Kunst

durch spezifisch aufgeräumte Regelmässigkeiten

durch spezifisch aufgeräumte Regelmässigkeiten

des allgemeinen Formenschatzes

des allgemeinen Formenschatzes

neue Wirkungen zu erzielen möglich wird."

neue Wirkungen zu erzielen möglich wird."

Ja, well I could have translated that, but you would have been none the wiser.

Mogao sam ovo prevesti, ali ne biste bili mudriji.

I'm not sure myself what it means but it sounds good anyway.

Ni sam nisam siguran što to znači, ali zvuči jako dobro.

I just realized it's important how one introduces new ideas to people,

Upravo sam shvatio da je važno kako netko predstavlja nove ideje ljudima,

that's why these patents are sometimes necessary.

zato su ti patenti nekada potrebni.

I would like to do a short test with you.

Napravio bih rado kratki test s vama.

Everyone is sitting in quite an orderly fashion here this morning.

Svi ovdje sjede u staromodnom redu.

So I would like to ask you all to raise your right hand. Yeah.

Želio bih vas zamoliti da svi dignete desnu ruku.

The right hand is the one we write with, apart from the left-handers.

Daa. Desna ruka je ona kojom pišemo, svi osim ljevaka.

And now, I'll count to three. I mean, it still looks very orderly to me.

A sada, brojat ću do tri. Mislim, meni još uvijek izgleda uredno.

Now, I'll count to three, and on the count of three

A sada, brojat ću do tri. Na broj tri želio bih

I'd like you all to shake hands with the person behind you. OK?

da se svi rukujete s osobom iza vas. OK?

One, two, three.

Jedan, dva, tri.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

You can see now, that's a good example: even behaving in an orderly, systematic way

Možete sada vidjeti, to je dobar primjer: čak i kada se ponašate uredno, sistematski, red

can sometimes lead to complete chaos.

ponekad može izazvati potpuni kaos.

So we can also see that very clearly in this next painting.

Možemo to vidjeti vrlo jasno na ovoj sljedećoj slici.

This is a painting by the artist, Niki de Saint Phalle.

To je slika umjetnika Niki de Saint Phallea.

And I mean, in the original it's completely unclear to see

U originalu je potpuno nejasno što bi

what this tangle of colors and shapes is supposed to depict.

taj splet boja i oblika trebao prikazivati.

But in the tidied up version, it's plain to see that it's a sunburnt woman playing volleyball.

Ali u uređenijoj verziji, jasno se vidi da je to žena koja je izgorjela na suncu i igra odbojku.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Yeah, it's a -- this one here, that's much better.

Da, to je – ova ovdje je puno bolja.

That's a picture by Keith Haring.

To je slika Keitha Haringa.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

I think it doesn't matter.

Mislim da ne smeta.

So, I mean, this picture has not even got a proper title.

Ova slika nije dobila čak ni pogodan naslov.

It's called "Untitled" and I think that's appropriate.

Zove se „Bez naslova” i mislim da je to prikladno.

So, in the tidied-up version we have a sort of Keith Haring spare parts shop.

U ovoj uređenijoj verziji imamo nešto kao trgovinu rezervnih dijelova Keitha Haringa.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

This is Keith Haring looked at statistically.

Ovako Keith Haring izgleda statistički.

One can see here quite clearly,

Možete jasno vidjeti,

you can see we have 25 pale green elements,

možete vidjeti da imamo 25 blijedo zelenih elemenata,

of which one is in the form of a circle.

od kojih jedan u obliku kruga.

Or here, for example, we have 27 pink squares with only one pink curve.

Ili ovdje, na primjer, imamo 27 ružičastih kvadrata sa samo jednim ružičastim zavojem.

I mean, that's interesting. One could extend this sort of statistical analysis

Mislim, to je zanimljivo. Netko može produbiti ove statističke analize

to cover all Mr. Haring's various works,

na sva dijela gosp. Haringa.

in order to establish in which period the artist favored pale green circles or pink squares.

Kako bi odredio u kojem je periodu umjetnik više volio blijede zelene krugove naspram ružičastih kvadrata.

And the artist himself could also benefit from this sort of listing procedure

Umjetniku samom bi koristilo ovo popisivanje,

by using it to estimate how many pots of paint he's likely to need in the future.

saznao bi koliko kanti boja će vjerojatno trebati u budućnosti.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

One can obviously also make combinations.

MOgle bi se, očito, raditi i kombinacije.

For example, with the Keith Haring circles and Kandinsky's dots.

Na primjer, s krugovima Keitha Haringa i točkama Kandinskog.

You can add them to all the squares of Paul Klee.

Možete ih dodati svim kvadratima Paula Kleea.

In the end, one has a list with which one then can arrange.

Na kraju, dobijemo popis uz koji se sve to može poslagati.

Then you categorize it, then you file it, put that file in a filing cabinet,

Tada sve to kategorizirate, spremite u datoteku, nju spremite u ormar,

put it in your office and you can make a living doing it.

stavite zatim u svoj ured i možete živjeti radeći to.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Yeah, from my own experience. So I'm --

Iz mog iskustva. Ja sam –

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Actually, I mean, here we have some artists that are a bit more structured. It's not too bad.

Zapravo, mislim, imamo umjetnike koji su više strukturirani. Nije to loše.

This is Jasper Johns. We can see here he was practicing with his ruler.

Ovo je Jasper Johns. Možemo vidjeti da je vježbao sa svojim ravnalom.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

But I think it could still benefit from more discipline.

Ali mislim da bi mogao imati koristi od još discipline.

And I think the whole thing adds up much better if you do it like this.

Mislim da se cijela stvar bolje slaže ako učinite nešto ovakvo.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

And here, that's one of my favorites.

A ovo, to je jedna od mojih najdražih.

Tidying up Rene Magritte -- this is really fun.

Uređivanje Rene Magritte – ovo je zbilja zabavno.

You know, there is a --

Znate, tu je –

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

I'm always being asked what inspired me to embark on all this.

Pitali su me što me inspiriralo na sve ovo.

It goes back to a time when I was very often staying in hotels.

To seže od vremena kada sam vrlo često odsjedao u hotelima.

So once I had the opportunity to stay in a ritzy, five-star hotel.

Jednom sam imao priliku odsjesti u hotelu s pet zvjezdica.

And you know, there you had this little sign --

Tamo je bio taj mali znak –

I put this little sign outside the door every morning that read,

stavljao sam taj mali znak na vanjsku stranu vrata svako jutro,

"Please tidy room." I don't know if you have them over here.

glasilo je „Molim vas uredite sobu.” Ne znam imate li to i ovdje.

So actually, my room there hasn't been tidied once daily, but three times a day.

Zapravo, moja soba nije bila sređivana jednom dnevno, već tri puta dnevno.

So after a while I decided to have a little fun,

Poslije nekog vremena, odlučio sam se malo zabaviti

and before leaving the room each day I'd scatter a few things around the space.

i prije izlaska iz sobe, svaki dan razbacao bih nekoliko stvari po sobi.

Like books, clothes, toothbrush, etc. And it was great.

Knjige, odjeću, četkicu za zube itd. Bilo je odlično.

By the time I returned everything had always been neatly returned to its place.

Do vremena kad sam se vratio sve je uvijek uredno vraćeno na svoje mjesto.

But then one morning, I hang the same little sign onto that picture by Vincent van Gogh.

Jedno jutro, stavio sam taj isti mali znak na sliku Vincenta van Gogha.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

And you have to say this room hadn't been tidied up since 1888.

Možemo reći da ova soba nije bila sređivana od 1888.

And when I returned it looked like this.

Kad sam se vratio, izgledalo je ovako.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Yeah, at least it is now possible to do some vacuuming.

Da, ali barem je sada moguće usisavati.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

OK, I mean, I can see there are always people

OK, vidim da uvijek postoje ljudi koji

that like reacting that one or another picture

reagiraju da jedna ili druga slika

hasn't been properly tidied up. So we can make a short test with you.

nisu ispravno uređene. Možemo napraviti kratak test.

This is a picture by Rene Magritte,

Ovo je slika Rene Magritte

and I'd like you all to inwardly -- like in your head, that is --

i htio bih da ju svi vi – u mislima –

to tidy that up. So it's possible that some of you would make it like this.

uredite. Moguće je da neki od vas to naprave ovako.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Yeah? I would actually prefer to do it more this way.

Da? Ja bih zapravo to više volio ovako.

Some people would make apple pie out of it.

Neki ljudi bi napravili pitu od jabuka od toga.

But it's a very good example to see that the whole work

Ali je dobar primjer da vidite kako je cijeli rad

was more of a handicraft endeavor that involved the very time-consuming job

više kao neka rukotvorina koja je uključivala dugotrajan posao

of cutting out the various elements and sticking them back in new arrangements.

rezanja raznih elemenata i priljepljivanja ih natrag u nove aranžmane.

And it's not done, as many people imagine, with the computer,

Nije napravljeno, kako mnogo ljudi misli, računalom,

otherwise it would look like this.

jer bi to onda izgledalo ovako.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

So now I've been able to tidy up pictures that I've wanted to tidy up for a long time.

Sada mogu urediti slike koje sam htio urediti već dulje vrijeme.

Here is a very good example. Take Jackson Pollock, for example.

Evo dobar primjer. Uzmite Jackson Pollocka, na primjer.

It's -- oh, no, it's -- that's a really hard one.

To je – ne, to je – vrlo težak primjer.

But after a while, I just decided here to go all the way

Ali nakon nekog vremena, odlučio sam otići do kraja i

and put the paint back into the cans.

vratiti boje natrag u kantu.

(Applause)

(pljesak)

Or you could go into three-dimensional art.

Ili biste mogli otići u trodimenzionalnu umjetnost.

Here we have the fur cup by Meret Oppenheim.

Ovdje imamo Krznenu šalicu Mereta Oppenheima.

Here I just brought it back to its original state.

Ovdje sam ju samo vratio u originalno stanje.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

But yeah, and it's great, you can even go, you know --

Da, odlično je, možete čak otići, znate –

Or we have this pointillist movement for those of you who are into art.

ili imamo ovaj poentilistički pokret za sve one koji vole umjetnost.

The pointillist movement is that kind of paintings

Poentilistički pokret su takve slike

where everything is broken down into dots and pixels.

gdje je sve rastavljeno na točkice i pixele.

And then I -- this sort of thing is ideal for tidying up.

Ovako nešto je kao stvoreno za uređivanje.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

So I once applied myself to the work of the inventor of that method, Georges Seurat,

Jednom sam htio to primijeniti kod izumitelja te metode, Georgesa Seurata,

and I collected together all his dots.

pokušao sam skupiti sve točkice.

And now they're all in here.

Sada su sve ovdje.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

You can count them afterwards, if you like.

Možete ih poslije prebrojati, ako želite.

You see, that's the wonderful thing about the tidy up art idea:

Vidite, to je prekrasna stvar kod uređivanja umjetnosti:

it's new. So there is no existing tradition in it.

novo je. Nema nikakve tradicije.

There is no textbooks, I mean, not yet, anyway.

Nema udžbenika. Mislim, ne još.

I mean, it's "the future we will create."

To je "budućnost koju ćemo stvoriti."

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

But to round things up I would like to show you just one more.

Ali da zaokružimo, htio bih vam pokazati još jednu stvar.

This is the village square by Pieter Bruegel.

Ovo je Seoski trg Pietera Bruegela.

That's how it looks like when you send everyone home.

Ovako to izgleda kad ih sve pošaljete kući.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Yeah, maybe you're asking yourselves

Možda se pitate

where old Bruegel's people went?

kamo su svi ti ljudi otišli?

Of course, they're not gone. They're all here.

Naravno, nisu otišli. Još su ovdje.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

I just piled them up.

Samo sam ih sakupio.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

So I'm -- yeah, actually I'm kind of finished at that moment.

Dakle, ja – zapravo gotov sam za sada.

And for those who want to see more, I've got my book downstairs in the bookshop.

Za sve koji žele vidjeti više, imam knjigu dolje u knjižari.

And I'm happy to sign it for you with any name of any artist.

Rado ću vam je potpisati imenom bilo kojeg umjetnika.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

But before leaving I would like to show you,

Prije nego što odete htio bih vam pokazati,

I'm working right now on another -- in a related field

radim sada na nečem drugom – na polju povezanom

with my tidying up art method. I'm working in a related field.

s mojim uređivanjem umjetnosti.

And I started to bring some order into some flags.

Počeo sam dovoditi u red neke zastave.

Here -- that's just my new proposal here for the Union Jack.

Ovdje – samo moj novi prijedlog za britansku zastavu.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

And then maybe before I leave you ...

Možda prije nego odem...

yeah, I think, after you have seen that I have to leave anyway.

mislim, nakon što ste to vidjeli, ionako moram otići.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Yeah, that was a hard one. I couldn't find a way to tidy that up properly,

Da, to je bilo malo teže. Nisam to uspio urediti ispravno,

so I just decided to make it a little bit more simpler.

pa sam to odlučio samo malo pojednostaviti.

(Laughter)

(smijeh)

Thank you very much.

Hvala vam puno.

(Applause)

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