Our story of rape and reconciliation | Thordis Elva and Tom Stranger

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Translator: Enara Caride Reviewer: Xosé María Moreno
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[This talk contains graphic language and descriptions of sexual violence
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[Esta charla contén linguaxe gráfica e descricións de violencia sexual.
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Viewer discretion is advised]
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Recoméndase a discreción do espectador]
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Tom Stranger: In 1996, when I was 18 years old,
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Tom Stranger: en 1996, cando tiña 18 años,
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I had the golden opportunity to go on an international exchange program.
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tiven a oportunidade de ouro de entrar nun programa de intercambio internacional.
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Ironically I'm an Australian who prefers proper icy cold weather,
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Ironicamente, son un australiano que prefire climas fríos e xélidos,
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so I was both excited and tearful when I got on a plane to Iceland,
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así que estaba emocionado e ao mesmo tempo triste cando tomei un avión a Islandia,
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after just having farewelled my parents and brothers goodbye.
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xusto despois de me despedir dos meus pais e irmáns.
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I was welcomed into the home of a beautiful Icelandic family
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Fun benvido na casa dunha marabillosa familia islandesa
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who took me hiking,
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que me levou de excursión
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and helped me get a grasp of the melodic Icelandic language.
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e me axudou a comprender a melódica lingua islandesa.
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I struggled a bit with the initial period of homesickness.
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Tiven que afacerme un pouco ao período inicial de morriña.
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I snowboarded after school,
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Facía snowboard despois da escola,
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and I slept a lot.
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e dormía moito.
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Two hours of chemistry class in a language that you don't yet fully understand
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Dúas horas de química nunha lingua que aínda non entendes completamente
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can be a pretty good sedative.
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pode ser un bo sedante.
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(Laughter)
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(Risas)
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My teacher recommended I try out for the school play,
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O profesor recomendoume facer a proba para a obra de teatro da escola,
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just to get me a bit more socially active.
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para que así fose un pouco máis activo socialmente.
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It turns out I didn't end up being part of the play,
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Resultou que finalmente non formei parte da obra,
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but through it I met Thordis.
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mais a través dela coñecín a Thordis.
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We shared a lovely teenage romance,
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Compartimos un fermoso romance adolescente,
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and we'd meet at lunchtimes to just hold hands
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e quedabamos á hora da comida só para collernos das mans
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and walk around old downtown Reykjavík.
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e camiñar polo vello centro de Reykjavík.
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I met her welcoming family, and she met my friends.
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Eu coñecín a súa encantadora familia, e ela coñeceu os meus amigos.
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We'd been in a budding relationship for a bit over a month
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Levabamos saíndo por algo máis dun mes
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when our school's Christmas Ball was held.
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cando se celebrou o baile de Nadal.
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Thordis Elva: I was 16 and in love for the first time.
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Thordis Elva: tiña 16 e estaba namorada por primeira vez.
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Going together to the Christmas dance
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Ir xuntos ao baile de Nadal
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was a public confirmation of our relationship,
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era a confirmación pública da nosa relación,
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and I felt like the luckiest girl in the world.
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e sentinme coma a moza con máis sorte do mundo.
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No longer a child, but a young woman.
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Non era xa unha nena, senón unha muller.
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High on my newfound maturity,
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Emocionada na miña nova e descuberta madurez,
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I felt it was only natural to try drinking rum for the first time that night, too.
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pensei que sería natural probar ron por primeira vez aquela noite.
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That was a bad idea.
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Foi unha mala idea.
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I became very ill,
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Púxenme moi mal,
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drifting in and out of consciousness
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vagando entre a consciencia e a inconsciencia
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in between spasms of convulsive vomiting.
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entre espasmos e convulsións, vomitando.
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The security guards wanted to call me an ambulance,
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Os gardas de seguridade quixeron pedirme unha ambulancia,
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but Tom acted as my knight in shining armor,
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mais Tom actuou como o meu cabaleiro de brillante armadura,
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and told them he'd take me home.
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e díxolles que me levaría el a casa.
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It was like a fairy tale,
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Foi coma un conto,
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his strong arms around me,
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os seus fortes brazos rodeándome,
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laying me in the safety of my bed.
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deitándome na seguridade da miña cama.
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But the gratitude that I felt towards him soon turned to horror
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Porén a gratitude que lle profesaba rapidamente tornouse en horror
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as he proceeded to take off my clothes and get on top of me.
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cando procedeu a quitarme a roupa e poñerse sobre min.
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My head had cleared up,
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De súpeto sentín a cabeza despexada,
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but my body was still too weak to fight back,
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mais o meu corpo estaba aínda moi débil para opoñerse,
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and the pain was blinding.
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e a dor era insoportable.
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I thought I'd be severed in two.
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Pensei que ía rachar en dúas.
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In order to stay sane,
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Para me manter lúcida,
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I silently counted the seconds on my alarm clock.
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contei en silencio os segundos no meu espertador.
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And ever since that night,
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E desde esa noite,
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I've known that there are 7,200 seconds in two hours.
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souben que hai 7,200 segundos en dúas horas.
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Despite limping for days and crying for weeks,
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A pesar de coxear durante días e chorar por semanas,
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this incident didn't fit my ideas about rape like I'd seen on TV.
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este incidente non encaixaba na idea de violación que eu observara na televisión.
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Tom wasn't an armed lunatic;
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Tom non era un lunático armado;
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he was my boyfriend.
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era o meu noivo.
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And it didn't happen in a seedy alleyway,
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E non ocorrera nunha sórdida canella,
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it happened in my own bed.
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sucedeu na miña propia cama.
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By the time I could identify what had happened to me as rape,
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Para cando puiden recoñecer que fora violada
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he had completed his exchange program
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el xa completara o programa de intercambio
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and left for Australia.
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e regresara a Australia.
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So I told myself it was pointless to address what had happened.
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Así que me dixen que non tiña sentido abordar o sucedido.
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And besides,
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E ademais,
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it had to have been my fault, somehow.
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tivo que ser pola miña culpa, de algún xeito.
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I was raised in a world where girls are taught
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Crecín nun mundo no que se lles ensina ás nenas
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that they get raped for a reason.
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que son violadas por un motivo.
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Their skirt was too short,
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A súa saia era moi curta,
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their smile was too wide,
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sorría moito,
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their breath smelled of alcohol.
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o seu alento cheiraba a alcohol.
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And I was guilty of all of those things,
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E eu era culpable de todas aquelas cousas,
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so the shame had to be mine.
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de xeito que era eu quen debía sentir vergoña.
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It took me years to realize
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Tardei anos en comprender
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that only one thing could have stopped me from being raped that night,
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que só unha cousa puido ter evitado que fose violada aquela noite,
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and it wasn't my skirt,
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e non foi a miña saia,
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it wasn't my smile,
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nin o meu sorriso,
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it wasn't my childish trust.
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non foi a miña infantil confianza.
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The only thing that could've stopped me from being raped that night
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O único que puido evitar que fose violada aquela noite
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is the man who raped me --
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foi o home que me violou --
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had he stopped himself.
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se se detivese.
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TS: I have vague memories of the next day:
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TS: teño poucos recordos do día seguinte:
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the after effects of drinking,
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os efectos secundarios do alcohol,
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a certain hollowness that I tried to stifle.
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un certo baleiro que tratei de sufocar.
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Nothing more.
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Nada máis.
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But I didn't show up at Thordis's door.
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Porén non me presentei na porta de Thordis.
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It is important to now state
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É importante agora establecer
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that I didn't see my deed for what it was.
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que eu non vira as miñas accións como o que realmente eran.
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The word "rape" didn't echo around my mind as it should've,
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A palabra "violación" non apareceu na miña mente como debería,
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and I wasn't crucifying myself with memories of the night before.
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e non estaba a me crucificar polos recordos da noite anterior.
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It wasn't so much a conscious refusal,
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Non era tanto un rexeitamento consciente,
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it was more like any acknowledgment of reality was forbidden.
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senón máis coma que calquera recoñecemento da realidade estaba prohibido.
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My definition of my actions completely refuted any recognition
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A miña definición das miñas accións desmentía calquera aceptación
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of the immense trauma I caused Thordis.
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do inmenso trauma que lle causei a Thordis.
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To be honest,
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Sendo sincero,
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I repudiated the entire act in the days afterwards
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repudiei por enteiro a acción nos días posteriores
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and when I was committing it.
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e cando estaba a cometela.
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I disavowed the truth by convincing myself it was sex and not rape.
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Rexeitei a realidade ao convencerme de que era sexo, non unha violación.
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And this is a lie I've felt spine-bending guilt for.
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E esta é unha mentira da cal sinto unha enorme culpa.
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I broke up with Thordis a couple of days later,
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Rompín con Thordis un par de días despois,
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and then saw her a number of times
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e logo vina unhas cantas veces
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during the remainder of my year in Iceland,
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durante o resto do meu ano en Islandia,
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feeling a sharp stab of heavyheartedness each time.
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sentindo cada unha desas veces unha intensa punzada de aflición.
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Deep down, I knew I'd done something immeasurably wrong.
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No fondo, sabía que fixera algo inmensamente mal.
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But without planning it, I sunk the memories deep,
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Mais sen planealo, afoguei eses recordos,
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and then I tied a rock to them.
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e logo ateilles unha pedra.
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What followed is a nine-year period
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O que lle seguiu foi un período de nove anos
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that can best be titled as "Denial and Running."
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mellor chamado como "Negación e Fuxida".
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When I got a chance to identify the real torment that I caused,
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Cando tiven a oportunidade de identificar o verdadeiro dano que causara,
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I didn't stand still long enough to do so.
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non fun quen de soportar o suficiente como para facelo.
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Whether it be via distraction,
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Xa fora por distracción,
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substance use,
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uso de substancias,
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thrill-seeking
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búsqueda de emocións fortes
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or the scrupulous policing of my inner speak,
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ou o escrupuloso control da miña voz interior,
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I refused to be static and silent.
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rexeitei ficar parado e en silencio.
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And with this noise,
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E con este ruído,
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I also drew heavily upon other parts of my life
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Tamén recorrín a outras facetas da miña vida
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to construct a picture of who I was.
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para así construír unha imaxe de quen era.
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I was a surfer,
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Era un surfista,
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a social science student,
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un estudante de ciencias sociais,
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a friend to good people,
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un bo amigo,
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a loved brother and son,
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un fillo e irmán querido,
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an outdoor recreation guide,
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un guía de actividades ao aire libre,
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and eventually, a youth worker.
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e, finalmente, un traballador xuvenil.
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I gripped tight to the simple notion that I wasn't a bad person.
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Aferreime á idea de que eu non era unha mala persoa.
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I didn't think I had this in my bones.
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Non pensei que levara isto no sangue.
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I thought I was made up of something else.
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Pensei que eu era distinto.
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In my nurtured upbringing,
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Na educación que recibín,
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my loving extended family and role models,
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a miña gran familia e modelos a seguir,
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people close to me were warm and genuine
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a xente próxima a min, eran sinceros e amables
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in their respect shown towards women.
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no respecto que mostraban cara ás mulleres.
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It took me a long time to stare down this dark corner of myself,
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Levoume tempo sosterlle a mirada a este oscuro recuncho meu,
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and to ask it questions.
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e facerlle preguntas.
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TE: Nine years after the Christmas dance,
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TE: Nove anos despois do baile de Nadal,
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I was 25 years old,
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eu tiña 25 anos,
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and headed straight for a nervous breakdown.
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e dirixíame directa cara a un colapso nervioso.
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My self-worth was buried under a soul-crushing load of silence
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A miña autoestima estaba soterrada baixo unha capa de silencio
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that isolated me from everyone that I cared about,
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que me illaba de todo aquilo que me importaba,
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and I was consumed with misplaced hatred and anger
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e eu estaba consumida por unha ira e un odio que non me pertencían
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that I took out on myself.
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e que pagaba conmigo mesma.
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One day, I stormed out of the door in tears
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Un día, saín pola porta entre bágoas
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after a fight with a loved one,
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tras unha discusión cunha persoa querida,
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and I wandered into a café,
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e entrei nunha cafetería,
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where I asked the waitress for a pen.
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onde lle pedín un bolígrafo a unha camareira.
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I always had a notebook with me,
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Sempre levaba unha libreta comigo,
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claiming that it was to jot down ideas in moments of inspiration,
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alegando que era para anotar ideas en momentos de inspiración,
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but the truth was that I needed to be constantly fidgeting,
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mais a verdade era que eu necesitaba estar en constante movemento,
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because in moments of stillness,
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porque en momentos de calma,
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I found myself counting seconds again.
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atopábame de novo contando eses segundos.
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But that day, I watched in wonder as the words streamed out of my pen,
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Porén, aquel día contemplei abraiada como as palabras fluían do meu
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forming the most pivotal letter I've ever written,
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bolígrafo formando a carta máis importante que xamais escribira,
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addressed to Tom.
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dirixida a Tom.
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Along with an account of the violence that he subjected me to,
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Xunto cunha narración da violencia á que me someteu,
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the words, "I want to find forgiveness"
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as palabras, "Quero atopar perdón"
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stared back at me,
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miráronme,
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surprising nobody more than myself.
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sorprendendo a ninguén máis que a min mesma.
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But deep down I realized that this was my way out of my suffering,
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Agora ben, no fondo, eu dérame conta de que este era a miña forma de saír do
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because regardless of whether or not he deserved my forgiveness,
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sufrimento, porque independentemente de se el merecía ou non o meu perdón,
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I deserved peace.
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eu merecía paz.
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My era of shame was over.
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A miña era de vergoña rematara.
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Before sending the letter,
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Antes de enviar a carta,
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I prepared myself for all kinds of negative responses,
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prepareime para todo tipo de respostas negativas,
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or what I found likeliest: no response whatsoever.
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ou para o que consideraba máis esperable: ningunha resposta en absoluto.
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The only outcome that I didn't prepare myself for
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O único resultado para o que non me preparei
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was the one that I then got --
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foi o que obtiven entón --
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a typed confession from Tom, full of disarming regret.
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unha confesión escrita de Tom, cargada de sincero arrepentemento.
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As it turns out, he, too, had been imprisoned by silence.
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E resultou que el tamén estivera aprisionado polo silencio.
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And this marked the start of an eight-year-long correspondence
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E isto marcou o inicio dunha correspondencia de oito anos
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that God knows was never easy,
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que Deus sabe nunca foi sinxela,
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but always honest.
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mais si honesta.
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I relieved myself of the burdens that I'd wrongfully shouldered,
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Eu libereime das cargas que inxustamente levaba ás costas,
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and he, in turn, wholeheartedly owned up to what he'd done.
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e el, en resposta, fíxose cargo do que fixera con sinceridade.
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Our written exchanges became a platform
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Os nosos intercambios escritos convertéronse nunha plataforma
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to dissect the consequences of that night,
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na que analizar as consecuencias daquela noite,
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and they were everything from gut-wrenching
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e foron de todo, desde incriblemente dolorosos
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to healing beyond words.
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ata curar por medio das palabras.
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And yet, it didn't bring about closure for me.
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E, con todo, para min non supuxo un punto e final.
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Perhaps because the email format didn't feel personal enough,
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Quizais porque o formato email non o sentía suficientemente íntimo,
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perhaps because it's easy to be brave
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quizais porque é sinxelo ser valente
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when you're hiding behind a computer screen on the other side of the planet.
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cando estas agochado tras unha pantalla de ordenador na otra punta do planeta.
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But we'd begun a dialogue
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Mais comezáramos un diálogo
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that I felt was necessary to explore to its fullest.
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que sentín que era necesario explorar ata o fondo.
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So, after eight years of writing,
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Así que, despois de oito anos de correspondencia,
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and nearly 16 years after that dire night,
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e case 16 anos despois daquela terrible noite,
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I mustered the courage to propose a wild idea:
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armeime de valor e propuxen unha loucura:
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that we'd meet up in person
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que nos coñecésemos en persoa
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and face our past once and for all.
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e afrontásemos o noso pasado dunha vez por todas.
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TS: Iceland and Australia are geographically like this.
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TS: Islandia e Australia están xeograficamente así.
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In the middle of the two is South Africa.
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No medio das dúas está Sudáfrica.
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We decided upon the city of Cape Town,
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Escollimos a cidade de Cape Town,
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and there we met for one week.
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e alí estivemos durante unha semana.
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The city itself proved to be a stunningly powerful environment
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A propia cidade resultou ser un poderoso ambiente
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to focus on reconciliation and forgiveness.
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para a reconciliación e o perdón.
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Nowhere else has healing and rapprochement been tested
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En ningún outro lugar a curación e o achegamento púxose
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like it has in South Africa.
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máis a proba que en Sudáfrica.
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As a nation, South Africa sought to sit within the truth of its past,
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Como nación, Sudáfrica tratou de asentarse na verdade do seu pasado
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and to listen to the details of its history.
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e de escoitar os detalles da súa historia.
10:10
Knowing this only magnified the effect that Cape Town had on us.
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Saber isto só fixo máis intenso o efecto que Cape Town tivera sobre nós.
10:15
Over the course of this week,
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Durante toda esa semana,
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we literally spoke our life stories to each other,
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contamos ao outro literalmente a historia das nosas vidas,
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from start to finish.
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de inicio a fin.
10:23
And this was about analyzing our own history.
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E isto trataba sobre a análise da nosa propia historia.
10:27
We followed a strict policy of being honest,
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Seguimos unha estricta política de honestidade,
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and this also came with a certain exposure,
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O que trouxo consigo unha certa exposición,
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an open-chested vulnerability.
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e unha aberta vulnerabilidade.
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There were gutting confessions,
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Houbo confesións viscerais,
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and moments where we just absolutely couldn't fathom
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e momentos nos que foi posible comprender
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the other person's experience.
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a experiencia da outra persoa.
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The seismic effects of sexual violence were spoken aloud and felt,
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Os sísmicos efectos da violencia sexual faláronse e sentíronse,
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face to face.
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cara a cara.
10:51
At other times, though,
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Noutras ocasións, sen embargo,
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we found a soaring clarity,
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atopamos unha gran claridade,
10:56
and even some totally unexpected but liberating laughter.
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e incluso algunha risa totalmente inesperada mais liberadora.
11:03
When it came down to it,
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Cando chegou o momento,
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we did out best to listen to each other intently.
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fixemos o mellor para escoitar ao outro con atención.
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And our individual realities were aired with an unfiltered purity
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E as nosas realidades individuais transmitíronse tan honestamente
11:15
that couldn't do any less than lighten the soul.
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que non fixeron máis que aliviar.
11:20
TE: Wanting to take revenge is a very human emotion --
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TE: A ansia de vinganza é un sentimento moi humano --
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instinctual, even.
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instintivo, incluso.
11:26
And all I wanted to do for years
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E o único que quixen durante anos
11:28
was to hurt Tom back as deeply as he had hurt me.
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foi ferir a Tom tan profundamente coma el fixera comigo.
11:33
But had I not found a way out of the hatred and anger,
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Se non tivese atopado un camiño para saír do odio e a ira,
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I'm not sure I'd be standing here today.
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non estou segura de se estaría aquí hoxe.
11:39
That isn't to say that I didn't have my doubts along the way.
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O que non quere dicir que non tivese as miñas dúbidas.
11:44
When the plane bounced on that landing strip in Cape Town,
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Cando o avión chegou a aquela pista de aterraxe en Cape Town,
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I remember thinking,
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lembro que pensei,
11:49
"Why did I not just get myself a therapist and a bottle of vodka
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"Por que non conseguín simplemente un psicólogo e unha botella de vodka,
11:54
like a normal person would do?"
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como faría unha persoa normal?"
11:56
(Laughter)
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(Risas)
11:59
At times, our search for understanding in Cape Town
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Ás veces, a nosa procura de entendemento en Cape Town
12:02
felt like an impossible quest,
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parecía misión imposible,
12:04
and all I wanted to do was to give up
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e o único que quería era desistir
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and go home to my loving husband, Vidir,
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e voltar á casa co meu querido marido, Vidir,
12:09
and our son.
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e o noso fillo.
12:11
But despite our difficulties,
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Mais a pesar das nosas dificultades,
12:14
this journey did result in a victorious feeling
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esta viaxe resultou nun sentimento
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that light had triumphed over darkness,
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de triunfo da luz sobre a oscuridade,
12:22
that something constructive could be built out of the ruins.
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de que algo construtivo se podía levantar a partir das ruínas.
12:28
I read somewhere
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Lín nalgures que un debe tratar de ser
12:29
that you should try and be the person that you needed when you were younger.
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a persoa que necesitaba cando era xove.
12:33
And back when I was a teenager,
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E cando era unha adolescente,
12:35
I would have needed to know that the shame wasn't mine,
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necesitaría ter sabido que a culpa non era miña,
12:39
that there's hope after rape,
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que hai esperanza tras unha violación,
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that you can even find happiness,
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que incluso podes atopar felicidade,
12:43
like I share with my husband today.
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como a que comparto hoxe co meu home.
12:45
Which is why I started writing feverishly upon my return from Cape Town,
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E por iso, desde a miña chegada de Cape Town comecei a escribir sen parar,
12:50
resulting in a book co-authored by Tom,
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resultando isto nun libro escrito conxuntamente con Tom,
12:52
that we hope can be of use to people from both ends
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que esperamos poida ser de axuda para persoas de cada un dos extremos
12:56
of the perpetrator-survivor scale.
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da escala perpetrador-supervivente.
12:59
If nothing else,
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Se nada máis,
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it's a story that we would've needed to hear when we were younger.
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é unha historia que necesitaríamos ter escoitado de novos.
13:06
Given the nature of our story,
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Dada a natureza da nosa historia,
13:08
I know the words that inevitably accompany it --
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sei cales son as palabras que inevitablemente a acompañan --
13:11
victim, rapist --
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vítima, violador --
13:14
and labels are a way to organize concepts,
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e as etiquetas son un xeito de organizar conceptos,
13:16
but they can also be dehumanizing in their connotations.
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mais tamén poden resultar nunha deshumanización.
13:21
Once someone's been deemed a victim,
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Unha vez que alguén é considerado vítima,
13:23
it's that much easier to file them away as someone damaged,
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é moito máis sinxelo catalogalo como alguén ferido,
13:29
dishonored,
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aldraxado,
13:30
less than.
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inferior a.
13:32
And likewise, once someone has been branded a rapist,
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E do mesmo xeito, unha vez que alguén é catalogado como violador,
13:35
it's that much easier to call him a monster --
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é moito máis sinxelo chamalo monstro --
13:38
inhuman.
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inhumano.
13:40
But how will we understand what it is in human societies
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Mais como seremos capaces de entender que é o que produce a violencia
13:43
that produces violence
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nas sociedades humanas
13:45
if we refuse to recognize the humanity of those who commit it?
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se nos negamos recoñecer a humanidade de quen a infrinxen?
13:50
And how --
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E como --
13:51
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
13:53
And how can we empower survivors if we're making them feel less than?
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E como podemos axudar ás vítimas se facemos que se sintan inferirores?
13:59
How can we discuss solutions to one of the biggest threats
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Como podemos falar de solucións a unha das maiores ameazas
14:03
to the lives of women and children around the world,
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contra as vidas de mulleres e nenos no mundo,
14:06
if the very words we use are part of the problem?
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se mesmo as palabras que empregamos son parte do problema?
14:13
TS: From what I've now learnt,
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TS: Polo que aprendín,
14:16
my actions that night in 1996 were a self-centered taking.
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as miñas accións daquela noite de 1996 foron egocéntricas
14:21
I felt deserving of Thordis's body.
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Sentinme merecedor do corpo de Thordis.
14:25
I've had primarily positive social influences
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Tiven unha gran cantidade de influencias sociais positivas
14:28
and examples of equitable behavior around me.
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e exemplos de comportamento igualitario arredor meu.
14:31
But on that occasion,
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Mais naquela ocasión,
14:32
I chose to draw upon the negative ones.
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elexín facer uso das negativas.
14:35
The ones that see women as having less intrinsic worth,
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Aquelas polas que vemos as mulleres coma menos valoradas,
14:39
and of men having some unspoken and symbolic claim to their bodies.
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e aos homes como os que teñen dereito sobre os seus corpos.
14:45
These influences I speak of are external to me, though.
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Sen embargo, as influencias das que falo son externas a min.
14:49
And it was only me in that room making choices,
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E naquela habitación era eu quen estaba a tomar decisións,
14:52
nobody else.
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ninguén máis.
14:54
When you own something
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Cando posuímos algo
14:56
and really square up to your culpability,
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e realmente aceptamos a nosa culpabilidade,
15:00
I do think a surprising thing can happen.
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penso que pode suceder algo soprendente.
15:03
It's what I call a paradox of ownership.
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É o que eu chamo paradoxo de propiedade.
15:06
I thought I'd buckle under the weight of responsibility.
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Pensaba que cedería baixo o peso da responsabilidade.
15:10
I thought my certificate of humanity would be burnt.
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Pensaba que o meu certificado de humanidade se quemaría.
15:14
Instead, I was offered to really own what I did,
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No seu lugar, ofrecéuseme o me facer cargo do que fixera,
15:18
and found that it didn't possess the entirety of who I am.
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e deime conta de que aquilo non formaba parte de todo o que eu era.
15:23
Put simply,
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Dito doutro xeito,
15:24
something you've done doesn't have to constitute the sum of who you are.
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algo que fixeches non ten por que definir completamente quen es.
15:30
The noise in my head abated.
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O ruído da miña cabeza calmouse.
15:32
The indulgent self-pity was starved of oxygen,
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A indulxente autocompaixón estaba famenta de osíxeno,
15:36
and it was replaced with the clean air of acceptance --
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e foi subsituída polo aire limpo da aceptación --
15:42
an acceptance that I did hurt this wonderful person standing next to me;
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a aceptación de que ferín a esta marabillosa persoa ó meu carón;
15:46
an acceptance that I am part of a large and shockingly everyday grouping of men
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a aceptación de que pertenzo a un gran e alarmantemente grupo de homes
15:52
who have been sexually violent toward their partners.
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que exerceron violencia sexual contra as súas parellas.
15:56
Don't underestimate the power of words.
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Non subestimedes o poder das palabras.
16:00
Saying to Thordis that I raped her changed my accord with myself,
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Dicirlle a Thordis que a violei cambiou o acordo que tiña conmigo mesmo,
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as well as with her.
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así coma o que tiña con ela.
16:07
But most importantly,
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E máis importante,
16:08
the blame transferred from Thordis to me.
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a culpa transferida de Thordis a min.
16:13
Far too often,
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Moi a miúdo,
16:14
the responsibility is attributed to female survivors of sexual violence,
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a responsabilidade atribúeselles ás superviventes femininas de violencia
16:18
and not to the males who enact it.
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sexual, e non aos homes que a perpetran.
16:22
Far too often,
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Moi frecuentemente,
16:23
the denial and running leaves all parties at a great distance from the truth.
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a negación e a fuxida deixan a ambas partes moi lonxe da verdade.
16:30
There's definitely a public conversation happening now,
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Sen dúbida agora hai unha conversa pública,
16:34
and like a lot of people,
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e como moita xente,
16:36
we're heartened that there's less retreating
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estamos animados de que haxa menos reparos
16:39
from this difficult but important discussion.
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con respecto a esta difícil mais importante discusión.
16:42
I feel a real responsibility to add our voices to it.
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Eu sinto a verdadeira responsabilidade de sumar as nosas voces a isto.
16:49
TE: What we did is not a formula that we're prescribing for others.
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TE: O que fixemos non foi unha fórmula que estamos a prescribir para os demais.
16:55
Nobody has the right to tell anyone else how to handle their deepest pain
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Ninguén ten o dereito de dicirlles aos demais como manexar a súa máis
17:00
or their greatest error.
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fonda dor ou o seu maior erro.
17:03
Breaking your silence is never easy,
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Romper o silencio nunca é sinxelo,
17:05
and depending on where you are in the world,
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e dependendo de onde esteas no mundo,
17:07
it can even be deadly to speak out about rape.
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pode incluso ser mortal falar sobre a violación.
17:11
I realize that even the most traumatic event of my life
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Son consciente de que incluso o evento máis traumático da miña vida
17:15
is still a testament to my privilege,
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segue sendo un testemuño do meu privilexio,
17:18
because I can talk about it without getting ostracized,
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porque podo falar sobre isto sen ser excluída,
17:22
or even killed.
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ou incluso asasinada.
17:24
But with that privilege of having a voice
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Porén co privilexio de ter unha voz
17:27
comes the responsibility of using it.
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vén a responsabilidade de empregala.
17:30
That's the least I owe my fellow survivors who can't.
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É o mínimo que lles debo ás miñas compañeiras superviventes que non poden.
17:36
The story we've just relayed is unique,
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A historia que acabamos de transmitir é única,
17:39
and yet it is so common with sexual violence being a global pandemic.
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e non obstante é moi común xa que a violencia sexual é unha pandemia mundial.
17:44
But it doesn't have to be that way.
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Aínda que non ten por que ser así.
17:47
One of the things that I found useful on my own healing journey
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Unha das cousas que atopei útil no meu propio camiño á curación
17:50
is educating myself about sexual violence.
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foi educarme sobre a violencia sexual.
17:53
And as a result, I've been reading, writing
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Como resultado, estiven lendo, escribindo
17:55
and speaking about this issue for over a decade now,
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e falando sobre este tema por máis dunha década,
17:58
going to conferences around the world.
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indo a conferencias en todo o mundo.
18:00
And in my experience,
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E na miña experiencia,
18:02
the attendees of such events are almost exclusively women.
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os participantes destas conferencias son case exclusivamente mulleres.
18:08
But it's about time that we stop treating sexual violence as a women's issue.
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Mais é o momento de deixar de tratar a violencia sexual como un tema de mulleres.
18:15
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
18:28
A majority of sexual violence against women and men
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A maioría da violencia sexual hacia mulleres e homes
18:32
is perpetrated by men.
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é levada a cabo por homes.
18:34
And yet their voices are sorely underrepresented in this discussion.
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Non obstante, as súas voces están sumamente subrepresentadas nesta discusión.
18:40
But all of us are needed here.
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Mais é necesario que todos esteamos aquí.
18:45
Just imagine all the suffering we could alleviate
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Imaxinade todo o sufrimento que poderiamos aliviar
18:49
if we dared to face this issue together.
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se nos atrevésemos a enfrontar isto xuntos.
18:54
Thank you.
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Grazas.
18:55
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
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