Sophal Ear: Escaping the Khmer Rouge

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I normally teach courses on
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how to rebuild states after war.
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But today I've got a personal story to share with you.
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This is a picture of my family,
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my four siblings -- my mom and I -- taken in 1977.
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And we're actually Cambodians.
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And this picture is taken in Vietnam.
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So how did a Cambodian family end up in Vietnam in 1977?
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Well to explain that, I've got a short video clip
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to explain the Khmer Rouge regime
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during 1975 and 1979.
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Video: April 17th, 1975.
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The communist Khmer Rouge
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enters Phnom Penh to liberate their people
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from the encroaching conflict in Vietnam,
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and American bombing campaigns.
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Led by peasant-born Pol Pot,
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the Khmer Rouge evacuates people to the countryside
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in order to create a rural communist utopia,
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much like Mao Tse-tung's Cultural Revolution in China.
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The Khmer Rouge closes the doors to the outside world.
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But after four years the grim truth seeps out.
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In a country of only seven million people,
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one and a half million were murdered by their own leaders,
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their bodies piled in the mass graves of the killing fields.
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Sophal Ear: So, notwithstanding the 1970s narration,
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on April 17th 1975
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we lived in Phnom Penh.
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And my parents were told by the Khmer Rouge
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to evacuate the city because of impending American bombing for three days.
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And here is a picture of the Khmer Rouge.
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They were young soldiers, typically child soldiers.
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And this is very normal now, of modern day conflict,
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because they're easy to bring into wars.
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The reason that they gave about American bombing wasn't all that far off.
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I mean, from 1965 to 1973 there were
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more munitions that fell on Cambodia
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than in all of World War II Japan,
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including the two nuclear bombs
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of August 1945.
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The Khmer Rouge didn't believe in money.
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So the equivalent of the Federal Reserve Bank
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in Cambodia was bombed.
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But not just that, they actually banned money.
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I think it's the only precedent in which
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money has ever been stopped from being used.
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And we know money is the root of all evil,
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but it didn't actually stop evil from happening in Cambodia, in fact.
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My family was moved from Phnom Penh to Pursat province.
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This is a picture of what Pursat looks like.
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It's actually a very pretty area of Cambodia,
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where rice growing takes place.
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And in fact they were forced to work the fields.
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So my father and mother ended up in
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a sort of concentration camp, labor camp.
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And it was at that time that my mother got word
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from the commune chief
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that the Vietnamese were actually asking
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for their citizens to go back to Vietnam.
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And she spoke some Vietnamese,
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as a child having grown up with Vietnamese friends.
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And she decided, despite the advice of her neighbors,
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that she would take the chance
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and claim to be Vietnamese
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so that we could have a chance to survive,
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because at this point they're forcing everybody to work.
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And they're giving about --
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in a modern-day, caloric-restriction diet, I guess --
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they're giving porridge, with a few grains of rice.
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And at about this time actually
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my father got very sick.
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And he didn't speak Vietnamese.
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So he died actually, in January 1976.
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And it made it possible, in fact,
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for us to take on this plan.
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So the Khmer Rouge took us
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from a place called Pursat to Kaoh Tiev,
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which is across from the border from Vietnam.
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And there they had a detention camp
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where alleged Vietnamese would be tested, language tested.
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And my mother's Vietnamese was so bad
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that to make our story more credible,
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she'd given all the boys and girls new Vietnamese names.
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But she'd given the boys girls' names,
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and the girls boys' names.
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And it wasn't until she met a Vietnamese lady
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who told her this, and then tutored her for two days intensively,
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that she was able to go into her exam
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and -- you know, this was a moment of truth.
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If she fails, we're all headed to the gallows;
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if she passes, we can leave to Vietnam.
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And she actually, of course -- I'm here, she passes.
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And we end up in Hong Ngu on the Vietnamese side.
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And then onwards to Chau Doc.
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And this is a picture of Hong Ngu, Vietnam today.
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A pretty idyllic place on the Mekong Delta.
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But for us it meant freedom.
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And freedom from persecution from the Khmer Rouge.
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Last year, the Khmer Rouge Tribunal,
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which the U.N. is helping Cambodia take on,
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started, and I decided that as a matter of record
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I should file a Civil Complaint
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with the Tribunal about my father's passing away.
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And I got word last month
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that the complaint was officially accepted by the Khmer Rouge Tribunal.
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And it's for me a matter of justice for history, and accountability for the future,
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because Cambodia remains a pretty lawless place, at times.
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Five years ago my mother and I went back to Chau Doc.
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And she was able to return to a place
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that for her meant freedom, but also fear,
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because we had just come out of Cambodia.
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I'm happy, actually, today, to present her.
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She's here today with us in the audience.
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Thank you mother.
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(Applause)
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