Massive-scale online collaboration | Luis von Ahn

309,770 views ・ 2011-12-06

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Translator: Bruce Ding Reviewer: Yuping Huang
00:15
How many of you had to fill out a web form
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有幾多人填寫網頁表格時
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where you've been asked to read
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00:18
a distorted sequence of characters like this?
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需要識別變形驗證碼?
00:20
How many of you found it really annoying?
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有幾多人覺得哩樣嘢真係好煩?
00:22
(Laughter)
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都唔少啊。哩樣嘢就係我發明嘅
00:24
OK, outstanding. So I invented that.
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00:25
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
或者講我係發明嘅其中一個
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Or I was one of the people who did it.
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00:29
That thing is called a CAPTCHA.
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哩樣嘢叫 CAPTCHA
佢之所以會出現喺網頁度
00:31
And it is there to make sure you, the entity filling out the form,
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係因為電腦要確認你、填格嘅 哩個人係一個人類
00:34
are a human and not a computer program
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而唔係電腦程式 為咗千萬次重複填表嘅電腦程式
00:36
that was written to submit the form millions of times.
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00:38
The reason it works is because humans, at least non-visually-impaired humans,
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至所以有變形驗證碼
係因為正常人讀哩啲扭曲文字 完全冇難度
00:42
have no trouble reading these distorted characters,
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00:44
whereas programs can't do it as well yet.
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但電腦就仲未做到
00:46
In the case of Ticketmaster,
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譬如,喺 Ticketmaster 網站上
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the reason you have to type these characters
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你要輸入哩啲變形驗證碼嘅原因
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is to prevent scalpers from writing a program
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係為咗防止黃牛用程式
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that can buy millions of tickets, two at a time.
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每次兩張咁買成幾萬張飛
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CAPTCHAs are used all over the Internet.
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驗證碼喺網絡十分普遍
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And since they're used so often,
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既然我哋咁頻繁用到佢
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a lot of times the sequence of random characters shown to the user
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於是好多時候用戶遇到一啲問題
01:01
is not so fortunate.
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01:02
So this is an example from the Yahoo registration page.
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哩度係一個來自雅虎註冊頁嘅例子
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The random characters that happened to be shown to the user
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展示畀用戶嘅隨機字符「WAIT」 咁啱可以組成一個英文字「等待」
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were W, A, I, T, which, of course, spell a word.
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最有趣嘅係
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But the best part is the message
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20 分鐘後雅虎網上支援組收到訊息
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that the Yahoo help desk got about 20 minutes later.
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01:15
[Help! I've been waiting for over 20 minutes and nothing happens.]
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(文字:幫我啊! 我都等咗廿幾分鐘,畫面依然冇郁)
01:18
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:23
This person thought they needed to wait.
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佢仲以為網站叫佢等
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This, of course, is not as bad as this poor person.
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當然冇嘢比哩個人幾騎
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(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
01:30
CAPTCHA Project is something that we did at Carnegie Melllon over 10 years ago,
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驗證碼計劃係我哋十多年前 喺卡內基梅隆大學搞起嘅
之後開始被廣泛應用
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and it's been used everywhere.
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01:35
Let me now tell you about a project that we did a few years later,
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宜家等我來講下我哋幾年後 搞嘅另一個項目
即係驗證碼嘅進化版
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which is sort of the next evolution of CAPTCHA.
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我哋稱之為「reCAPTCHA」
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This is a project that we call reCAPTCHA,
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哩個項目最先喺卡內基梅隆大學開始
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which is something that we started here at Carnegie Mellon,
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之後仲成為一間公司
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then we turned it into a start-up company.
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大概一年半之前
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And then about a year and a half ago, Google actually acquired this company.
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谷歌收購埋哩間公司
宜家等我來講講哩個項目係點開始嘅
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Let me tell you what this project started.
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01:53
This project started from the following realization:
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哩個項目出於以下嘅事實:
全球每日輸入大概 2 億次驗證碼
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It turns out that approximately 200 million CAPTCHAs
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01:58
are typed everyday by people around the world.
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02:00
When I first heard this, I was quite proud of myself.
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我第一次聽到嘅時候都幾自豪
我諗,我哋嘅研究都幾大影響喔
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I thought, look at the impact my research has had.
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跟住我就覺得唔對路
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But then I started feeling bad.
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因為你每輸入一次驗證碼
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Here's the thing: each time you type a CAPTCHA,
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你就浪費咗 10 秒鐘嘅時間
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essentially, you waste 10 seconds of your time.
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02:11
And if you multiply that by 200 million,
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如果你將佢乘以 2 億
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you get that humanity is wasting about 500,000 hours every day
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咁人類因為輸入驗證碼
而每日浪費咗 50 萬個小時
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typing these annoying CAPTCHAs.
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02:18
(Laughter)
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所以我就開始覺得唔爽
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So then I started feeling bad.
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02:20
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
02:22
And then I started thinking, of course, we can't just get rid of CAPTCHAs,
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跟住我就開始諗
嗯,當然啦 我哋冇可能放棄驗證碼糸統㗎嘛
因為網絡安全旨意佢
02:26
because the security of the web depends on them.
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但係咪有辦法可以利用佢 來為人類做啲好事?
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But then I started thinking, can we use this effort
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02:30
for something that is good for humanity?
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02:32
So see, here's the thing.
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嗯,關鍵在於
02:34
While you're typing a CAPTCHA, during those 10 seconds,
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當你輸入一個驗證碼嘅時候 喺嗰 10 秒鐘
你嘅大腦係度做緊一啲好神奇嘅 而電腦未做到嘅嘢
02:37
your brain is doing something amazing.
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02:38
Your brain is doing something that computers cannot yet do.
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02:41
So can we get you to do useful work for those 10 seconds?
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我哋可唔可以用哩 10 秒 做啲有用嘅嘢呢?
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Is there some humongous problem that we cannot yet get computers to solve,
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換個講法
係唔係有啲計算機無法解決嘅龐大問題
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yet we can split into tiny 10-second chunks
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而我哋可以將佢分為 10 個 10 秒嘅子問題呢?
02:50
such that each time somebody solves a CAPTCHA,
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咁樣,每次有人輸入一個驗證碼嘅時候
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they solve a little bit of this problem?
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佢哋就解決咗哩個問題嘅其中一部分
答案係肯定嘅 而哩個就係我哋做緊嘅嘢
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And the answer to that is "yes," and this is what we're doing now.
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你可能唔知道 宜家你每次輸入驗證碼嘅時候
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Nowadays, while you're typing a CAPTCHA,
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你唔單止證明咗自己人類嘅身份
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not only are you authenticating yourself as a human,
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同時亦喺度幫緊我哋數碼化圖書
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but in addition you're helping us to digitize books.
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等我來解釋一下:
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Let me explain how this works.
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03:06
There's a lot of projects trying to digitize books.
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目前已經有好多項目做緊圖書數碼化
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Google has one. The Internet Archive has one.
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谷歌有一個
「互聯網檔案計劃」都有一個
亞馬遜同埋 Kindle 亦都試緊數碼化圖書
03:11
Amazon, with the Kindle, is trying to digitize books.
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基本上,數碼化圖書要由一本舊書開始
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Basically, the way this works is you start with an old book.
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03:16
You've seen those things, right?
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你睇過書㗎吓? 一本書?
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Like a book?
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(笑聲)
03:19
(Laughter)
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03:20
So you start with a book and then you scan it.
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你從一本實體書開始,掃描佢每一頁
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Now, scanning a book
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掃描一本書 就好似對本書每一頁影一張相
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is like taking a digital photograph of every page.
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畀到你每一頁嘅樣貌
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It gives you an image for every page.
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哩啲影像包括咗書每一頁嘅文字
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This is an image with text for every page of the book.
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03:31
The next step in the process is that the computer needs to be able
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下一步就係電腦需要認到 哩個影像入邊嘅所有文字
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to decipher the words in this image.
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目前使用嘅技術叫做 OCR
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That's using a technology called OCR, for optical character recognition,
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即係「光學字符識別」
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which takes a picture of text
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OCR 首先獲取文字嘅影像
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and tries to figure out what text is in there.
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然後嘗試辨認出 出現喺嗰個影像入邊嘅文字
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Now, the problem is that OCR is not perfect.
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問題在於 OCR 並唔完美
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Especially for older books
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尤其用喺古書嘅時候
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where the ink has faded and the pages have turned yellow,
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古書上面嘅墨跡已經變淡
紙質開始變黃
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OCR cannot recognize a lot of the words.
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好多文字 OCR 認唔到
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For things that were written more than 50 years ago,
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譬如,五十幾年前嘅書
當中大概有 30% 嘅文字 唔可以俾電腦識別
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the computer cannot recognize about 30 percent of the words.
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所以,我哋喺度做緊嘅嘢
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So now we're taking all of the words that the computer cannot recognize
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就係將所有哩啲電腦認唔到嘅文字 攞出來
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and we're getting people to read them for us
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等人喺網上輸入驗證碼嘅同時 幫我哋認啲字
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while they're typing a CAPTCHA on the Internet.
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所以,下一次你輸入驗證碼嘅時候
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So the next time you type a CAPTCHA, these words that you're typing
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你輸入嘅嗰啲文字實質上 來自被數碼化緊嘅圖書
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are actually words from books that are being digitized
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04:11
that the computer could not recognize.
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而所有哩些文字都係電腦認唔到嘅
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The reason we have two words nowadays instead of one
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另外,宜家之所以出現兩組文字 而唔係一組文字
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is because one of the words
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係因為其中一組文字
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is a word that the system just got out of a book,
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係系統喺書入邊認唔到嘅字
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it didn't know what it was and it's going to present it to you.
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但係既然佢唔知答案係乜嘢 佢都唔可以判斷你認得啱唔啱
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But since it doesn't know the answer, it cannot grade it.
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所以我哋嘅做法就係 畀一組系統已知嘅文字組合你
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So we give you another word,
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04:27
for which the system does know the answer.
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04:29
We don't tell you which one's which and we say, please type both.
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我哋唔講畀你知邊個打邊個
我哋淨係講「請將兩個組合輸入」
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And if you type the correct word
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如果你正確輸入電腦已知嘅組合
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for the one for which the system knows the answer,
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電腦就認為你係人類
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it assumes you are human
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04:37
and it also gets some confidence that you typed the other word correctly.
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同時對你輸入嘅另一個組合多幾分信心
如果我哋對 10 個人重複哩個過程
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And if we repeat this process to 10 different people
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而佢哋都輸入咗個新詞係乜嘢
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and they agree on what the new word is,
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咁我哋就可以正確咁數碼化多一個詞語
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then we get one more word digitized accurately.
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哩樣就係系統嘅運作原理
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So this is how the system works.
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同時,因為我哋已經喺三四年前 發佈咗哩個系統
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And since we released it about three or four years ago,
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好多網站已經由以前嘥用戶時間嘅 舊驗證碼系統
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a lot of websites have started switching from the old CAPTCHA,
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04:55
where people wasted their time,
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轉去哩個新嘅 可以幫助數碼化圖書嘅系統
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to the new CAPTCHA where people are helping to digitize books.
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例如,喺 Ticketmaster 嘅網站上
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So every time you buy tickets on Ticketmaster,
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你每一次買飛,都係幫緊數碼化圖書
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you help to digitize a book.
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喺臉書,你每一次加好友或者打招呼
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Facebook: Every time you add a friend or poke somebody,
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你都係幫緊數碼化圖書
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you help to digitize a book.
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推特同埋另外 35 萬個網站 都用緊 reCAPTCHA
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Twitter and about 350,000 other sites are all using reCAPTCHA.
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事實上,使用 reCAPTCHA 嘅 網站數量如此之多
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And the number of sites that are using reCAPTCHA is so high
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以至到我哋每日數碼化嘅文字數量 亦都十分之高
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that the number of words we're digitizing per day is really large.
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大概有 1,000 萬之多
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It's about 100 million a day,
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05:17
which is the equivalent of about two and a half million books a year.
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相當於每年數碼化咗 250 萬本書
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And this is all being done one word at a time
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而哩一切都係一個字一個字咁
05:23
by just people typing CAPTCHAs on the Internet.
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由用戶喺網上輸入驗證碼得來嘅
05:25
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
05:32
Now, of course,
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當然
05:34
since we're doing so many words per day,
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既然我哋每日都可以完成咁多字
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funny things can happen.
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有趣嘅事就有可能會發生
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This is especially true because now we're giving people
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尤其而家,我哋同時向用戶展示 兩個隨機產生、並列出現嘅英文單詞
05:41
two randomly chosen English words next to each other.
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05:43
So funny things can happen.
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好笑嘅嘢會發生
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For example, we presented this word.
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譬如,我哋展示咗哩個詞語
詞語「基督徒」冇乜問題
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It's the word "Christians"; there's nothing wrong with it.
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05:49
But if you present it along with another randomly chosen word,
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但係如果你同另外一個隨機選嘅詞語 擺埋一齊
就可能搞禍咗
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bad things can happen.
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我哋就見到咁樣嘅組合 (英文意思:壞基督徒)
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So we get this.
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05:55
[bad Christians]
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但更衰嘅係
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But it's even worse, because the website where we showed this
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哩组文字咁啱出現喺一個叫 「上帝王國嘅使館」嘅網站上
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actually happened to be called The Embassy of the Kingdom of God.
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(笑聲)
06:02
(Laughter)
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06:04
Oops.
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哎呀
06:05
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
哩度仲有一個
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Here's another really bad one.
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JohnEdwards.com
06:11
JohnEdwards.com
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06:12
[Damn liberal]
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(譯:可惡嘅自由派)
06:13
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
所以我哋每日都喺度侮辱人
06:18
So we keep on insulting people left and right everyday.
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當然,我哋不單止侮辱人
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Of course, we're not just insulting people.
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既然我哋隨機產生兩組字
06:23
Here's the thing. Since we're presenting two randomly chosen words,
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有趣嘅嘢可能會發生
06:26
interesting things can happen.
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06:27
So this actually has given rise to a really big Internet meme
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所以佢實際上催生咗
一個十分龐大 有成千上萬人參與嘅互聯網潮流
06:32
that tens of thousands of people have participated in,
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叫「驗證碼嘅藝術」
06:35
which is called CAPTCHA art.
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06:36
I'm sure some of you have heard about it.
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我相信你哋在座一啲人已經聽過
06:38
Here's how it works.
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佢係咁運作嘅
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Imagine you're using the Internet and you see a CAPTCHA
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想像你自己正喺度用緊互聯網
如果你見到一個有啲奇怪嘅驗證碼
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that you think is somewhat peculiar,
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06:44
like this CAPTCHA.
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好似咁 (譯:隱形嘅土司機)
06:45
[invisible toaster]
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06:46
What you're supposed to do is you take a screenshot of it.
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然後,你應該做嘅係將佢截圖落來
跟住,當然啦,你將個驗證碼填好
06:49
Then of course, you fill out the CAPTCHA because you help us digitize a book.
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因為咁樣已經幫緊我哋數碼化圖書
所以,你首先截圖落來
06:53
But first you take a screenshot
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06:54
and then you draw something that is related to it.
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然後畫一啲同佢相關嘅嘢
(笑聲)
06:57
(Laughter)
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06:58
That's how it works.
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就係咁
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(Laughter)
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07:01
There are tens of thousands of these.
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哩度有成千上萬咁樣嘅作品
07:04
Some of them are very cute.
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有啲都好可愛咖 (譯:捉緊佢)
07:06
[clenched it]
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(笑聲)
07:07
(Laughter)
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07:09
Some of them are funnier.
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有啲更加搞笑
07:11
[stoned Founders]
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(譯:飲大咗嘅建國者)
07:12
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:16
And some of them, like paleontological shvisle ...
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仲有一啲
譬如「古生物學嘅史維錘」
07:20
(Laughter)
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佢哋包括饒舌家 Snoop Dogg
07:22
they contain Snoop Dogg.
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07:23
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
07:26
OK, so this is my favorite number of reCAPTCHA.
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哩個係我最鐘意嘅 reCAPTCHA 數字
07:29
So this is the favorite thing that I like about this whole project.
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我最鐘意嘅部分
7 億 5 千萬哩個數字
07:32
This is the number of distinct people
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係通過 reCAPTCHA 幫我哋 數碼化圖書嘅人數
07:34
that have helped us digitize at least one word out of a book through reCAPTCHA:
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07:37
750 million, a little over 10 percent of the world's population,
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剛好世界超過百分之一嘅人口 已經幫過我哋數碼化人類知識
07:40
has helped us digitize human knowledge.
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07:42
And it is numbers like these that motivate my research agenda.
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就係哩個數字激勵我去研究一個問題:
07:45
So the question that motivates my research is the following:
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07:49
If you look at humanity's large-scale achievements,
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如果你睇睇人類嘅大型成就
07:51
these really big things
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嗰啲歷史上人類合力完成嘅大事
07:52
that humanity has gotten together and done historically --
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07:55
like, for example, building the pyramids of Egypt
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譬如,建造埃及金字塔
07:57
or the Panama Canal
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或者巴拿馬運河
07:59
or putting a man on the Moon --
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或者將人類送上月球
08:01
there is a curious fact about them,
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哩度有一個幾有趣嘅 關於呢啲大事嘅事實
08:03
and it is that they were all done with about the same number of people.
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就係佢哋全部都係 由差唔多數量嘅人完成嘅
08:06
It's weird; they were all done with about 100,000 people.
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好奇怪,佢哋全部都係 由差唔多 10 萬人完成嘅
08:09
And the reason for that is because, before the Internet,
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原因係,喺互聯網出現之前
集合超過 10 萬人 ——唔好講話畀錢佢哋
08:12
coordinating more than 100,000 people,
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08:14
let alone paying them, was essentially impossible.
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係幾乎冇可能嘅
但係因為有咗互聯網
08:17
But now with the Internet, I've just shown you a project
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我啱啱展示畀你哋嘅項目 就有 7 億 5 千萬人參與
08:19
where we've gotten 750 million people to help us digitize human knowledge.
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來幫我哋數碼化人類知識
08:23
So the question that motivates my research is,
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所以激勵我研究嘅問題就係
08:25
if we can put a man on the Moon with 100,000,
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如果我哋可以用 10萬人 將人類送上月球
08:27
what can we do with 100 million?
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我哋可以用 1億人做啲乜嘢?
08:29
So based on this question,
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基於哩個問題
08:31
we've had a lot of different projects that we've been working on.
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我哋開展咗好多唔同嘅項目
等我同你哋介紹下我最為之興奮嘅一個
08:34
Let me tell you about one that I'm most excited about.
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08:36
This is something that we've been semiquietly working on
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哩個項目我哋已經半公開地 進行咗差唔多一年半
08:39
for the last year and a half or so.
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佢仲未正式運行,叫做 Duolingo
08:41
It hasn't yet been launched. It's called Duolingo.
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08:43
Since it hasn't been launched, shhh!
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因為我哋仲未投入使用,所以,噓!
08:45
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
08:46
Yeah, I can trust you'll do that.
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我相信你哋都會守口如瓶嘅
08:49
So this is the project. Here's how it started.
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哩個項目係咁樣開始嘅
08:51
It started with me posing a question to my graduate student, Severin Hacker.
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我向我嘅研究生 Severin Hacker 提出一個問題
08:55
OK, that's Severin Hacker.
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——哩個就係佢
我向佢提咗一個問題
08:57
So I posed the question to my graduate student.
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08:59
By the way, you did hear me correctly; his last name is Hacker.
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——順便一提,你冇聽錯
佢確實姓「Hacker(譯︰駭客)」
09:02
(Laughter)
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09:03
So I posed this question to him: How can we get 100 million people
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我向佢提出咗哩個問題:
我哋點樣先可以叫 1 億人義務咁
09:06
translating the web into every major language for free?
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幫手將互聯網翻譯成主要嘅語言?
09:10
There's a lot of things to say about this question.
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嗯,關於哩個題目我哋有好多嘢可以講
09:12
First of all, translating the web.
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首先係翻譯網頁
09:14
Right now, the web is partitioned into multiple languages.
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互聯網分為多種語言
其中一大部分係英文
09:17
A large fraction of it is in English.
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如果你唔識英文 你就冇辦法接觸到互聯網
09:19
If you don't know English, you can't access it.
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但同時亦有一大部分係其他語言
09:21
But there's large fractions in other different languages,
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同樣,如果你唔識嗰啲語言 你亦無法接觸到互聯網
09:24
and if you don't know them, you can't access it.
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所以我好想可以將整個互聯網 或者至少係大部分
09:26
So I would like to translate all of the web,
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09:28
or at least most of it, into every major language.
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翻譯成每一種主要語言
哩個就係我想做嘅事
09:31
That's what I would like to do.
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09:32
Now, some of you may say, why can't we use computers to translate?
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但有啲人可能會問 點解唔用電腦來翻譯呢?
09:37
Machine translation is starting to translate
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既然機器翻譯已經開始出現
09:39
some sentences here and there.
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09:40
Why can't we use it to translate the web?
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點解我哋唔用佢翻譯整個互聯網呢?
09:42
The problem with that is it's not yet good enough
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唔, 問題在於,機器翻譯仲未夠成熟
而且哩個問題喺未來 15、20 年 亦唔一定解決到
09:45
and it probably won't be for the next 15 to 20 years.
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機器翻譯出錯太多
09:47
It makes a lot of mistakes. Even when it doesn't,
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即使佢冇出錯
09:49
since it makes so many mistakes, you don't know whether to trust it or not.
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但因為佢出錯太多 你好難講應唔應該信佢
舉一個機器翻譯嘅例子
09:53
So let me show you an example
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09:54
of something that was translated with a machine.
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哩個係一篇網上論壇嘅帖文
09:57
Actually, it was a forum post.
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09:58
It was somebody who was trying to ask a question about JavaScript.
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由一位網民發表 問一個關於 Java 語言嘅問題
10:01
It was translated from Japanese into English.
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帖文由日文譯成英文
10:04
So I'll just let you read.
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你可以睇
10:06
This person starts apologizing
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哩個人首先為使用電腦翻譯而道歉
10:08
for the fact that it's translated with a computer.
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10:10
So the next sentence is going to be the preamble to the question.
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下一個句子開始
佢喺度解釋緊一啲嘢
10:14
So he's just explaining something.
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請留意,哩個係一個 關於 Java 語言嘅問題
10:16
Remember, it's a question about JavaScript.
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10:18
[At often, the goat-time install a error is vomit.]
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(譯:常常,山羊時間安裝 一個錯誤係嘔吐)
10:20
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:25
Then comes the first part of the question.
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跟著係哩個問題嘅第一個部分
10:29
[How many times like the wind, a pole, and the dragon?]
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(譯:有幾多次好似風、柱、龍?)
10:32
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
跟住係我最鐘意嘅部分
10:37
Then comes my favorite part of the question.
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10:39
[This insult to father's stones?]
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(譯:哩個對父親嘅侮辱?)
10:41
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
跟著到咗問題嘅最後部分 成件事我最鐘意嘅部分
10:45
And then comes the ending,
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10:46
which is my favorite part of the whole thing.
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(文字:請為你嘅愚蠢道歉。
10:48
[Please apologize for your stupidity. There are a many thank you.]
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哩度有對你嘅好多感謝。)
10:51
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
10:53
OK, so computer translation, not yet good enough.
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所以,電腦翻譯未成熟
10:56
So back to the question.
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返返去問題
我哋需要人來翻譯互聯網
10:58
So we need people to translate the whole web.
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你下一個要問嘅問題可能係
11:01
So now the next question you may have is,
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點解我哋唔使錢叫人來做呢?
11:03
well, why can't we just pay people to do this?
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我哋可以使錢請專業嘅翻譯家 來翻譯成個互聯網
11:05
We could pay professional translators to translate the whole web.
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我哋可以咁做
11:08
We could do that.
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11:09
Unfortunately, it would be extremely expensive.
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但不幸嘅係,咁樣可能會非常貴
11:11
For example, translating a tiny fraction of the whole web, Wikipedia,
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例如,將互聯網中嘅極小極小嘅一部分 即係維基百科
11:15
into one other language, Spanish.
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翻譯成西班牙文
11:17
OK? Wikipedia exists in Spanish,
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雖然有西班牙文嘅維基百科
11:19
but it's very small compared to the size of English.
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但相比於英文維基百科,佢嘅內容好少
大概只有英文維基百科嘅 20%
11:22
It's about 20 percent of the size of English.
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如果我哋想將另外嗰 80% 翻譯為西班牙文
11:24
If we wanted to translate the other 80 percent into Spanish,
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可能要使五千萬美元
11:27
it would cost at least 50 million dollars --
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即使係最平嘅服務外包國家
11:29
and this is even at the most exploited, outsourcing country out there.
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11:33
So it would be very expensive.
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翻譯費用都會好貴
11:34
So what we want to do is, we want to get 100 million people
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我哋想做嘅係將 1 億人聯合起來 將互聯網翻譯為任何一種主要語言
11:37
translating the web into every major language for free.
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而唔使一分一毫
如果哩個係你想做嘅
11:40
If this is what you want to do, you quickly realize
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你好快就會發現 自己會面臨兩個幾大嘅難題
11:42
you're going to run into two big hurdles, two big obstacles.
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11:45
The first one is a lack of bilinguals.
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第一個就係缺少雙語人才
11:48
So I don't even know
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我甚至唔知道
11:50
if there exists 100 million people out there using the web
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係唔係有 1 億擁有足夠雙語能力嘅人 會幫我哋翻譯
11:53
who are bilingual enough to help us translate.
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哩個係個大問題
11:56
That's a big problem.
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11:57
The other problem you're going to run into is a lack of motivation.
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另一個你會遇到嘅問題係缺少鼓勵
我哋點樣鼓勵人哋義務翻譯網頁呢?
12:00
How are we going to motivate people to actually translate the web for free?
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通常來講,你必須使錢請人來做哩啲
12:04
Normally, you have to pay people to do this.
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12:06
So how are we going to motivate them to do it for free?
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點樣能夠鼓勵人哋義務來翻譯呢?
當我哋開始諗哩啲問題嘅時候 我哋就俾哩兩個難題限住
12:09
When we were starting to think about this, we were blocked by these two things.
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但後來我哋發現係有辦法嘅
12:12
But then we realized, there's a way
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12:14
to solve both these problems with the same solution.
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有一個一石二鳥嘅辦法
12:16
To kill two birds with one stone.
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就係將翻譯語言轉變為大家都想做嘅事
12:18
And that is to transform language translation
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12:20
into something that millions of people want to do
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12:23
and that also helps with the problem of lack of bilinguals,
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同時又消除冇雙語人才嘅問題
12:26
and that is language education.
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嗰樣就係語言教育啦
12:29
So it turns out that today,
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實際上,現時有超過 12 億人學緊外語
12:31
there are over 1.2 billion people learning a foreign language.
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12:35
People really want to learn a foreign language.
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大家都好想學外語
12:37
And it's not just because they're being forced to do so in school.
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但唔係單單因為學校被逼咁做
因為喺美國
12:40
In the US alone, there are over five million people
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有超過 500 萬人喺軟件上 花費咗超過 500 美元學習一種新語言
12:43
who have paid over $500 for software to learn a new language.
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所以,大家真係好想學新語言
12:46
So people really want to learn a new language.
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12:48
So what we've been working on for the last year and a half
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我哋喺過去一年半籌建嘅一個網站
叫 Duolingo
12:51
is a new website -- it's called Duolingo --
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Duolingo 嘅基本理念係 人哋可以免費學習一種新語言
12:53
where the basic idea is people learn a new language for free
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12:55
while simultaneously translating the web.
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同時義務翻譯網頁
簡單來講,佢哋喺度通過實踐來學習
12:58
And so basically, they're learning by doing.
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13:00
So the way this works
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Duolingo 運作嘅方式係
13:01
is whenever you're a just a beginner, we give you very simple sentences.
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如果你係初學者 我哋會畀非常非常簡單嘅句子你
13:05
There's a lot of very simple sentences on the web.
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當然網上有好多簡單嘅句子
13:07
We give you very simple sentences along with what each word means.
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我哋畀你非常非常簡單嘅句子 同每個詞語嘅意思
13:10
And as you translate them
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隨著你翻譯佢哋 加上睇其他人點樣翻譯佢哋
13:12
and as you see how other people translate them,
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你就會開始學習嗰種語言
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you start learning the language.
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當你變得越來越進階嘅時候
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And as you get more advanced,
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we give you more complex sentences to translate.
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我哋就會畀你更加複雜句子翻譯
13:19
But at all times, you're learning by doing.
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無論幾時,你都係通過練習來學習
13:21
Now, the crazy thing about this method is that it actually really works.
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哩種方法瘋狂在於佢真係會成功
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People are really learning a language.
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首先,啲人真係學緊語言
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We're mostly done building it and now we're testing it.
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我哋已經整好個網站,宜家喺度測試
人哋真係可以用佢來學習語言
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People really can learn a language with it.
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13:32
And they learn it about as well as the leading language learning software.
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學出來亦可以同其他領先嘅 語言學習軟件學出來一樣咁好
13:35
So people really do learn a language.
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人哋真係可以學一門語言
唔單止學得一樣好
13:37
And not only do they learn it as well, but actually it's more interesting.
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佢實際上亦更加有趣
因為喺 Duolingo 啲人用現實材料來學
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Because with Duolingo, people are learning with real content.
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相對於用教材寫嘅句子 人哋學緊真實嘅內容
13:44
As opposed to learning with made-up sentences,
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people are learning with real content, which is inherently interesting.
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從本質上就有趣好多
人哋真係學習一種語言
13:49
So people really do learn a language.
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13:51
But perhaps more surprisingly,
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可能更令人驚奇嘅係
13:53
the translations that we get from people using the site,
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用緊哩個網站嘅人 ——即使佢哋只係初學者
13:55
even though they're just beginners,
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the translations that we get
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所寫嘅翻譯同嗰啲專業嘅翻譯家 竟然一樣準確
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are as accurate as those of professional language translators,
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14:01
which is very surprising.
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等我舉個例子
14:03
So let me show you one example.
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14:04
This is a sentence that was translated from German into English.
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哩個係一個從德文翻譯成英文嘅句子
上面係德文
14:07
The top is the German. The middle is an English translation
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中間係由專業譯者做嘅英文翻譯
14:10
that was done by a professional translator
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14:12
who we paid 20 cents a word for this translation.
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我哋為哩個翻譯嘅每個字使咗 20 美仙
14:15
And the bottom is a translation by users of Duolingo,
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最下面嘅翻譯係由之前完全唔識德文嘅
14:18
none of whom knew any German before they started using the site.
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我哋網站嘅用戶做嘅翻譯
14:21
If you can see, it's pretty much perfect.
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你哋可以見到,哩個翻譯係幾完美嘅
14:23
Of course, we play a trick here
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當然,我哋用咗一啲方法 令哩個翻譯同專業翻譯一樣咁好
14:25
to make the translations as good as professional language translators.
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我哋集合多個用戶嘅翻譯
14:28
We combine the translations of multiple beginners
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來得到一個專業譯者水準嘅翻譯
14:31
to get the quality of a single professional translator.
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14:33
Now, even though we're combining the translations,
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而即使我哋綜合多個譯者
14:38
the site actually can translate pretty fast.
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哩個網站嘅翻譯其實幾快
14:41
So let me show you,
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等我展示一下
14:42
this is our estimates of how fast we could translate Wikipedia
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哩個係估算我哋可以幾快咁將維基百科 從英文翻譯為西班牙文
14:45
from English into Spanish.
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Remember, this is 50 million dollars' worth of value.
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留意,哩度有五千萬美元嘅價值
14:49
So if we wanted to translate Wikipedia into Spanish,
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如果我哋想將維基百科翻譯為西班牙文
14:52
we could do it in five weeks with 100,000 active users.
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以 10 萬活躍用戶來計 我哋可以係 5 星期內完成
14:55
And we could do it in about 80 hours with a million active users.
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以 100 萬活躍用戶來計 我哋可以喺 80 個鐘之內完成
既然我嘅團隊接觸嘅所有項目 都達到百萬用戶
14:58
Since all the projects my group has worked on so far
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have gotten millions of users,
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我哋希望可以用哩個項目極快咁翻譯
15:02
we're hopeful that we'll be able to translate extremely fast.
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我對 Duolingo 最為興奮嘅係
15:05
Now, the thing that I'm most excited about with Duolingo
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is I think this provides a fair business model for language education.
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佢為語言教育提供咗 一種公平交易嘅商業模式
15:11
So here's the thing:
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係咁樣嘅:
目前嘅語言教育模式係學生畀錢
15:13
The current business model for language education
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is the student pays,
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15:16
and in particular, the student pays Rosetta Stone 500 dollars.
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即係學生會畀 500 美元 Rosetta Stone
15:19
(Laughter)
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(笑聲)
15:21
That's the current business model.
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哩就係目前嘅商業模式
15:23
The problem with this business model
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哩種商業模式嘅問題係
15:25
is that 95 percent of the world's population doesn't have 500 dollars.
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95% 嘅人口連 500 美元都冇
所以佢對貧窮人口係極唔公平嘅
15:28
So it's extremely unfair towards the poor.
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15:31
This is totally biased towards the rich.
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佢完全偏向富裕人口
15:33
Now, see, in Duolingo,
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而且,因為你學緊語言嘅時候
15:34
because while you learn, you're actually creating value,
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你實際上創造緊價值——
15:38
you're translating stuff --
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你翻譯緊嗰啲本來需要錢翻譯嘅嘢
15:39
which, for example, we could charge somebody for translations,
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so this is how we could monetize this.
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哩個就係我哋貨幣化學習嘅方法
15:44
Since people are creating value while they're learning,
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既然佢哋學習嘅時候創造緊價值
15:47
they don't have to pay with their money, they pay with their time.
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佢哋無需付出金錢
只需要付出佢哋嘅時間
15:50
But the magical thing here
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神奇在於你付出嘅時間 本來就係要來學語言嘅
15:52
is that is time that would have had to have been spent anyways
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learning the language.
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15:56
So the nice thing about Duolingo
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所以我講 Duolingo 做嘅一件好事 就係提供咗一個公平嘅商業模式
15:58
is, I think, it provides a fair business model --
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一個唔歧視貧窮嘅模式
16:00
one that doesn't discriminate against poor people.
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Duolingo 就係哩個網站。多謝
16:03
So here's the site. Thank you.
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16:04
(Applause)
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(掌聲)
我哋仲未正式發佈
16:13
We haven't yet launched,
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but if you go there, you can sign up to be part of our private beta,
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但係如果你去哩個網站
你可以註冊成為非公開測試版本嘅一員
16:18
which is probably going to start in three or four weeks.
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測試版本可能喺未來三四個星期 就會開始
16:21
We haven't yet launched it.
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Duolingo 仲未有得用著
16:22
By the way, I'm the one talking here,
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順便講一句,雖然係我喺度做哩個演講
16:24
but Duolingo is the work of a really awesome team,
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但實際上 Duolingo 係一個出色團隊嘅產品
哩個團隊中嘅一些人今日都係哩度
16:27
some of whom are here. So thank you.
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16:28
(Applause)
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多謝!
(掌聲)
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