Sangu Delle: In praise of macro -- yes, macro -- finance in Africa

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翻译人员: Rongxin Liu 校对人员: 杏儀 歐陽
00:12
Traditional prescriptions for growth in Africa are not working very well.
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传统的经济增长手段 在非洲并非那么管用。
00:18
After one trillion dollars in African development-related aid
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尽管在过去的60年里,
非洲获得了过万亿美元的经济援助,
00:22
in the last 60 years,
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00:25
real per capita income today is lower than it was in the 1970s.
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如今实际的人均收入 比上世纪70年代还要低。
00:30
Aid is not doing too well.
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援助并没有太大的帮助。
00:33
In response,
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对此,
00:34
the Bretton Woods institutions -- the IMF and the World Bank --
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布雷顿森林体系- 国际货币基金组织和世界银行
00:38
pushed for free trade not aid,
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推崇自由贸易,而不是经济援助,
00:42
yet the historical record shows little empirical evidence
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然而历史数据表明,
没有实质证据证明 自由贸易会促进非洲的经济增长。
00:46
that free trade leads to economic growth.
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00:50
The newly prescribed silver bullet is microcredit.
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最新的经济增长手段是"小额贷款”。
00:54
We seem to be fixated on this romanticized idea
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我们的想法似乎过分浪漫,
00:58
that every poor peasant in Africa is an entrepreneur.
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以为所有非洲贫农都是创业家。
01:02
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
01:05
Yet my work and travel in 40-plus countries across Africa
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然而,在非洲40多个国家的 工作和旅途的经验告诉我,
01:10
have taught me that most people want jobs instead.
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大多数人民想要的只是就业。
01:15
My solution: Forget micro-entrepreneurs.
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我(对促进经济增长)的方案是: 且将小额贷款放一边。
01:19
Let's invest in building pan-African titans
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让我们投资构建 泛非洲的“巨无霸” (大型企业)
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like Sudanese businessman Mo Ibrahim.
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如苏丹的企业家——易卜拉欣(Mo Ibrahim)
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Mo took a contrarian bet on Africa when he founded Celtel International in '98
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1998年,易卜拉欣在非洲逆势而为, 成立了Celtel 国际公司,
01:32
and built it into a mobile cellular provider
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并将其打造成移动运营商。
01:36
with 24 million subscribers across 14 African countries by 2004.
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2004年,Celtel 已有2400万用户, 服务覆盖非洲14个国家。
01:44
The Mo model might be better than the everyman entrepreneur model,
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相比于“人人都是创业家” 的模式, 易卜拉欣的创业模式也许较优。
01:47
which prevents an effective means of diffusion and knowledge-sharing.
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因为大众创业模式阻碍了 有效的融合手段和知识共享。
01:51
Perhaps we are not at a stage in Africa
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或许,在非洲目前所处阶段,
01:54
where many actors and small enterprises leads to growth through competition.
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经济增长不是靠大量个体 和小型企业竞争而取得。
01:59
Consider these two alternative scenarios.
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考虑以下两个不同的情景:
02:03
One: You loan 200 dollars to each of 500 banana farmers
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情景一:你给种植香蕉的500个农民 每人贷200美元,
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allowing them to dry their surplus bananas
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让他们可以干燥处理剩余的香蕉,
02:11
and fetch 15 percent more revenue at the local market.
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在当地市场获得15%的收入增长。
02:16
Or two: You give 100,000 dollars to one savvy entrepreneur
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情景二:你把10万美元 给一个精明的企业家,
02:22
and help her set up a factory that yields 40 percent additional income
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帮助她建造一个工厂, 足以给那500个种植香蕉的农民,
02:27
to all 500 banana farmers and creates 50 additional jobs.
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02:33
We invested in the second scenario,
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我们选择了后者,
02:36
and backed 26-year-old Kenyan entrepreneur Eric Muthomi
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向一位26岁的肯尼亚企业家, Eric Muthomi 给予了投资,
02:40
to set up an agro-processing factory called Stawi
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帮助他设立 Stawi 农产品加工厂。
02:44
to produce gluten-free banana-based flour and baby food.
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该加工厂专门生产无麸质的 以香蕉为主的面粉和婴儿食品。
02:50
Stawi is leveraging economies of scale
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Stawi 借助规模经济效应 采用现代加工生产模式,
02:53
and using modern manufacturing processes to create value for not only its owners
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不仅为工厂老板创造了价值,
还为持有股份的员工创造了价值。
02:58
but its workers, who have an ownership in the business.
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03:02
Our dream is to take an Eric Muthomi and try to help him become a Mo Ibrahim,
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我们的梦想是帮助 Eric Muthomi, 让他成为又一位 “易卜拉欣 “。
03:08
which requires skill, financing, local and global partnerships,
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这一梦想的实现,需要技术、 资金、地区与全球范围的合作、
03:13
and extraordinary perseverance.
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以及非凡的毅力。
03:16
But why pan-African?
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但是,为什么选择泛非洲?
03:19
The scramble for Africa during the Berlin Conference of 1884 --
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1884年的柏林会议上对非洲的争夺,
03:24
where, quite frankly, we Africans were not exactly consulted --
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——实话说,我们非洲人民的意见 就没有被征询过——
03:28
(Laughter) (Applause) --
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(笑声)(掌声)
03:35
resulted in massive fragmentation
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这导致了非洲大规模的“碎片化”,
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and many sovereign states with small populations:
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产生了许多人口较少的主权国家:
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Liberia, four million; Cape Verde, 500,000.
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利比里亚,400万人口; 佛得角,50万人口。
03:43
Pan-Africa gives you one billion people,
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泛非洲有10亿人口,
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granted across 55 countries with trade barriers and other impediments,
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横跨了55个国家, 还有各种贸易壁垒和其它障碍。
03:50
but our ancestors traded across the continent
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不过,在欧洲列强 争夺非洲、划下国界前,
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before Europeans drew lines around us.
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我们的祖先 在非洲大陆到处进行贸易。
03:56
The pan-African opportunities outweigh the challenges,
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泛非洲的机遇大于挑战,
03:59
and that's why we're expanding Stawi's markets from just Kenya
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因此,我们从肯尼亚开始 将 Stawi 的市场扩张到阿尔及利亚、
04:03
to Algeria, Nigeria, Ghana, and anywhere else that will buy our food.
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尼日利亚、加纳,还有 所有会购买我们的食物的地方。
04:07
We hope to help solve food security, empower farmers, create jobs,
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我们希望帮助解决食品安全问题, 改善农民生活,创造就业机会,
发展当地经济,并在此历程中致富。
04:11
develop the local economy, and we hope to become rich in the process.
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04:15
While it's not the sexiest approach,
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也许这不是最鲜嫩欲滴的手段,
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and maybe it doesn't achieve the same feel-good
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跟在 kiva.org 上借出100美元 给别人买山羊相比,
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as giving a woman 100 dollars to buy a goat on kiva.org,
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这可能不会给你同样的感觉。
04:24
perhaps supporting fewer, higher-impact entrepreneurs
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向少数更具影响力的企业家提供帮助,
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to build massive businesses that scale pan-Africa
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构建大规模的企业 使其能够与泛非洲匹配,
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can help change this.
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或许能够帮助我们改变现状。
04:34
The political freedom for which our forebearers fought
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我们先人为政治自由所作的拼搏 如果没有经济自由,就会变得徒劳。
我们先人为政治自由所作的拼搏 如果没有经济自由,就会变得徒劳。
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is meaningless without economic freedom.
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04:43
We hope to aid this fight for economic freedom
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我们希望为争取经济自由出力,
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by building world-class businesses,
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致力于打造世界级的企业,
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creating indigenous wealth,
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创造本土财富,
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providing jobs that we so desperately need,
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创造我们迫切需要的就业岗位。
04:53
and hopefully helping achieve this.
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与此同时也希望通过实现这些目标,
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Africa shall rise.
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非洲会崛起。
05:00
Thank you.
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谢谢!
05:02
(Applause)
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(掌声)
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Tom Rielly: So Sangu, of course, this is strong rhetoric.
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汤姆·赖利:桑谷,这是很强的比喻。
05:13
You're making 100 percent contrast between microcredit
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你说小额贷款与普通的投资手段以及 不断增长的普通投资手段有天壤之别。
05:16
and regular investment and growing regular investment.
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你说小额贷款与普通的投资手段以及 不断增长的普通投资手段有天壤之别。
05:20
Do you think there is a role for microcredit at all?
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你认为小额贷款能否占一席之地?
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Sangu Delle: I think there is a role.
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桑谷·德尔:我认为可以。
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Microcredit has been a great, innovative way
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小额贷款一直是优秀创新的手段,
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to expand financial access to the bottom of the pyramid.
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用于为向金字塔底层的人 扩大金融活动的门槛。
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But for the problems we face in Africa,
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然而,我们非洲目前所面临的问题,
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when we are looking at the Marshall Plan
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比如说,为振兴饱受战争蹂躏的欧洲 而制定的马歇尔计划,
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to revitalize war-torn Europe,
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比如说,为振兴饱受战争蹂躏的欧洲 而制定的马歇尔计划,
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it was not full of donations of sheep.
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不只是单纯的捐赠羊群。
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We need more than just microcredit.
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我们需要的不仅仅是小额贷款,
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We need more than just give 200 dollars.
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也不是仅仅200美元的援助,
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We need to build big businesses, and we need jobs.
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我们需要构建大规模的企业, 需要更多的就业岗位。
05:46
TR: Very good. Thank you so much.
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赖利:非常好,感谢!
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(Applause)
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(掌声)
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