Rory Sutherland: Sweat the small stuff

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翻译人员: Lan Xu 校对人员: HUI YU
00:15
Those of you who may remember me from TEDGlobal
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对我在TEDGlobal(TED全球会议)有印象的观众们
00:17
remember me asking a few questions
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大概会记得我曾经提出过一些问题
00:19
which still preoccupy me.
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直到现在仍然困扰着我。
00:21
One of them was: Why is it necessary to spend
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有一个问题是这样的:为何政府要花费
00:23
six billion pounds
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60亿英镑
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speeding up the Eurostar train
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来提速欧洲之星列车
00:27
when, for about 10 percent of that money,
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而仅仅花费十分之一的预算
00:29
you could have top supermodels, male and female,
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就可以请到顶级名模们
00:31
serving free Chateau Petrus to all the passengers
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为乘客们免费提供波得路堡红葡萄酒
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for the entire duration of the journey?
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让旅客们享受整个旅程
00:36
You'd still have five billion left in change,
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这样政府能省下50亿
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and people would ask for the trains to be slowed down.
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乘客们还会要求火车减速
00:41
Now, you may remember me asking the question as well,
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你大概也记得我的另一个问题
00:43
a very interesting observation,
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一个很有趣的观察
00:45
that actually those strange little signs
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那些公路上奇怪的小标示牌
00:47
that actually flash "35" at you,
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持续闪烁着“35“
00:49
occasionally accompanying a little smiley face
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偶尔伴随着一个笑脸
00:51
or a frown,
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或者愁脸
00:53
according to whether you're within or outside the speed limit --
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取决于你是否超速
00:56
those are actually more effective
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它们其实比测速机
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at preventing road accidents than speed cameras,
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更有效地预防了车祸的发生
01:01
which come with the actual threat
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尽管后者以实施惩罚
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of real punishment.
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来警戒驾驶人
01:05
So there seems to be a strange disproportionality at work,
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因此这里有一种奇怪的失衡
01:08
I think, in many areas of human problem solving,
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在我们解决各种问题的时候
01:11
particularly those which involve human psychology,
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特别涉及到人类心理方面时
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which is: The tendency
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那即是各种组织和机构
01:16
of the organization or the institution
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往往倾向于
01:18
is to deploy as much force as possible,
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尽可能布置多的财力物力
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as much compulsion as possible,
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施加压力
01:23
whereas actually, the tendency of the person
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然而,最终人们的选择倾向
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is to be almost influenced
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所受的影响
01:28
in absolute reverse proportion
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往往与其投入
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to the amount of force being applied.
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成反比
01:33
So there seems to be a complete disconnect here.
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这里就出现了一个完全的脱节
01:35
So what I'm asking for is the creation of a new job title --
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我认为应该出现一种新型的职业
01:37
I'll come to this a little later --
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我稍后会谈到
01:39
and perhaps the addition of a new word
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并且很有可能引出一个新的
01:41
into the English language.
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英文名词
01:43
Because it does seem to me that large organizations
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在我看来,众多大型组织
01:46
including government, which is, of course, the largest organization of all,
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包括政府,这一最大的组织在内
01:49
have actually become
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都变得
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completely disconnected
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与群众的实际需要
01:53
with what actually matters to people.
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完全脱节了
01:55
Let me give you one example of this.
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就此举一个例吧
01:57
You may remember this as the AOL-Time Warner merger, okay,
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还记得美国在线与时代华纳的合并吧
02:01
heralded at the time as the largest
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它当时被称为有史以来最大的
02:03
single deal of all time.
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单笔交易
02:05
It may still be, for all I know.
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据我所知,很有可能现在仍是
02:07
Now, all of you in this room, in one form or other,
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我想在座的各位,以这样或那样的途径,
02:09
are probably customers of one or both
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都有可能是
02:11
of those organizations that merged.
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两家合并公司(之一)的客户
02:13
Just interested, did anybody notice anything different
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那么,是否有人注意到
02:16
as a result of this at all?
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合并带来的任何变化?
02:18
So unless you happened to be a shareholder
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所以除非你恰好是
02:20
of one or the other organizations
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两公司中某一个的持股者
02:22
or one of the dealmakers or lawyers involved in the no-doubt lucrative activity,
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或者是参与到这次“高利润活动”中的交易者或律师
02:25
you're actually engaging in a huge piece of activity
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否则实际上你根本没有体验到任何变化
02:28
that meant absolutely bugger-all to anybody, okay?
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其实这对所有人都毫无意义
02:32
By contrast, years of marketing have taught me
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与之相反的是,多年来的市场策划让我意识到
02:34
that if you actually want people to remember you
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如果你要让别人记住
02:37
and to appreciate what you do,
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并感激你的所作所为
02:39
the most potent things are actually very, very small.
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最有用的其实是那些非常非常小的事
02:42
This is from Virgin Atlantic upper-class,
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这是在维珍大西洋航班的头等舱里
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it's the cruet salt and pepper set.
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这是盐和胡椒调味瓶
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Quite nice in itself, they're little, sort of, airplane things.
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他们看起来十分可爱,又无足轻重,类似于飞机上的免费用品
02:49
What's really, really sweet is every single person looking at these things
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有趣的是每个人看到它们
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has exactly the same mischievous thought,
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心里都会偷偷地想
02:54
which is, "I reckon I can heist these."
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说不定我可以把它们带走
02:57
However, you pick them up and underneath,
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然而,当你拿起它们时
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actually engraved in the metal, are the words,
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会发现底座刻着这样的话
03:01
"Stolen from Virgin Atlantic Airways upper-class."
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盗于维珍大西洋航班头等舱
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(Laughter)
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笑声
03:06
Now, years after
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多年以后
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you remember the strategic question
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当你早已忘记
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of whether you're flying in a 777 or an Airbus,
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当年坐的是波音777还是空中客机时
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you remember those words and that experience.
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你会记得那段有趣的话和那次经历
03:17
Similarly, this is from a hotel in Stockholm, the Lydmar.
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同样的,这是在斯德克尔摩一个名为Lydmar的宾馆电梯里
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Has anybody stayed there?
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有人住过那里吗
03:21
It's the lift, it's a series of buttons in the lift.
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电梯里有一串按钮
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Nothing unusual about that at all,
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看似平常
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except that these are actually not the buttons that take you to an individual floor.
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然而它们代表的并不是各个楼层
03:30
It starts with garage at the bottom, I suppose, appropriately,
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最下面的按钮是garage,没什么奇怪的
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but it doesn't go up garage, grand floor, mezzanine, one, two, three, four.
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然而再往上却不是底层,中层楼,一,二,三,四
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It actually says garage, funk, rhythm and blues.
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这些按钮上其实写着车库,朋克,蓝调
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You have a series of buttons. You actually choose your lift music.
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它们是供你选择电梯的音乐风格
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My guess is that the cost of installing this in the lift
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我猜想在Lydmar酒店的电梯里
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in the Lydmar Hotel in Stockholm
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安装一个这样的系统
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is probably 500 to 1,000 pounds max.
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花费至多在500到1000镑
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It's frankly more memorable
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但说实话
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than all those millions of hotels we've all stayed at
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这比绝大多数我们曾住过的酒店更让人印象深刻
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that tell you that your room has actually been recently renovated
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尽管在那些酒店你常常被告知所住的房间才被装修过
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at a cost of 500,000 dollars,
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耗资50万美元
04:02
in order to make it resemble every other hotel room you've ever stayed in
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但那不过使它显得
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in the entire course of your life.
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和你住过的其他酒店客房一个样
04:09
Now, these are trivial marketing examples, I accept.
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是的,这些都是微小的市场策划的案例。
04:12
But I was at a TED event recently and Esther Duflo,
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在我最近参与的一次TED活动中, 杜芙洛(法国经济学家)
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probably one of the leading experts in,
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很可能是消除发展中国家贫困现状这一领域的
04:17
effectively, the eradication of poverty in the developing world,
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领头专家之一
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actually spoke.
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也谈到了这样的案例
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And she came across a similar example
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她提出了一个类似的方案
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of something that fascinated me
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我对此很感兴趣
04:25
as being something which, in a business context or a government context,
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然而在商界和政界看来
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would simply be so trivial a solution
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这个方案是如此的微不足道
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as to seem embarrassing.
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以至提出它显得让人尴尬
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It was simply to encourage the inoculation of children
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这个方案就是提倡孩子的疫苗接种
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by, not only making it a social event --
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首先让它一种社会性活动
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I think good use of behavioral economics in that,
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我认为这是对行为经济学很好的应用
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if you turn up with several other mothers
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如果你与另外几个母亲一起
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to have your child inoculated,
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带着孩子去接种
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your sense of confidence is much greater than if you turn up alone.
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你将比独自去更有信心
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But secondly, to incentivize that inoculation
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更重要的是,为了鼓励接种
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by giving a kilo of lentils to everybody who participated.
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政府应给每个参与接种的人一公斤扁豆
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It's a tiny, tiny thing.
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这是一件很小很小的事
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If you're a senior person at UNESCO
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如果你是联合国科教文组织的一个高级官员
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and someone says, "So what are you doing
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当某人问起:“那你要怎么
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to eradicate world poverty?"
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消除当今世界的贫困问题呢?“
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you're not really confident standing up there
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你不可能自信满满地回答
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saying, "I've got it cracked; it's the lentils," are you?
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”我搞定了,就用扁豆。“ 不是么?
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Our own sense of self-aggrandizement
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自夸的心理让我们总觉得
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feels that big important problems
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重要的问题
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need to have big important, and most of all, expensive
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要用看起来重大且十分昂贵的方式
05:15
solutions attached to them.
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来解决
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And yet, what behavioral economics shows time after time after time
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其实不然,行为经济学一再而再地表明
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is in human behavioral and behavioral change
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在人类干预和行为改变之间
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there's a very, very strong disproportionality at work,
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其实存在着严重的比例失调
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that actually what changes our behavior
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那些能够真正改变我们行为
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and what changes our attitude to things
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和态度的事
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is not actually proportionate to the degree
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其实不需要花费
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of expense entailed,
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其看似所需的财力
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or the degree of force that's applied.
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或物力
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But everything about institutions
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但机构的本身
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makes them uncomfortable
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决定了它无法习惯
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with that disproportionality.
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这种不成比例
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So what happens in an institution
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于是便造成机构中
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is the very person who has the power to solve the problem
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负责解决问题的人
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also has a very, very large budget.
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往往拥有巨额的预算
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And once you have a very, very large budget,
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而一旦有了巨额预算
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you actually look for expensive things to spend it on.
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人们便不由自主地寻找费钱的方式去解决问题
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What is completely lacking is a class of people
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当今我们缺乏的正是那些有
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who have immense amounts of power, but no money at all.
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着巨大权利却分文没有的人
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(Laughter)
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笑声
06:04
It's those people I'd quite like to create
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我希望在这日新月异的世界中
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in the world going forward.
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能出现这样的人才
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Now, here's another thing that happens,
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还有一个现象
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which is what I call sometimes "Terminal 5 syndrome,"
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我有时把它称之为“第五航站楼综合症”
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which is that big, expensive things
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它是指:要完成耗资巨大的重要事件
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get big, highly-intelligent attention,
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需要人们集中才智和精力
06:17
and they're great, and Terminal 5 is absolutely magnificent,
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人们会取得很不错的成果,比如5号航站楼是绝对的宏伟摩登
06:20
until you get down to the small detail, the usability,
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然而直到你注意到一些小细节的实用性,就会发现
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which is the signage,
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比如它的指示牌
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which is catastrophic.
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其实是相当糟糕的
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You come out of "Arrive" at the airport, and you follow
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走出机场的“抵达”口后
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a big yellow sign that says "Trains" and it's in front of you.
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你看到面前一个黄色的指示牌上写着“火车”
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So you walk for another hundred yards,
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于是你跟随指示走上几百码
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expecting perhaps another sign,
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搜寻着新的指示牌
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that might courteously be yellow, in front of you and saying "Trains."
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期待着黄色的“火车”标志
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No, no, no, the next one is actually blue, to your left,
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然而下一个却是蓝色的,在你的左方
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and says "Heathrow Express."
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上面写着“希斯罗高速”
06:42
I mean, it could almost be rather like that scene from the film "Airplane."
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这简直太像电影“飞机”里的搞笑场景了
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A yellow sign? That's exactly what they'll be expecting.
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黄色的指示牌?那正是他们所期待的。
06:48
Actually, what happens in the world increasingly --
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实际上,当今世界越来越多地出现这种情况
06:50
now, all credit to the British Airport Authority.
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全归功于英国机场当局(对细节的忽略)
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I spoke about this before,
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我曾经也谈到过这个问题
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and a brilliant person got in touch with me and said, "Okay, what can you do?"
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当时一个睿智的人后来问我"好吧,那你说应该怎么办?“
06:57
So I did come up with five suggestions, which they are actually actioning.
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我给了他五个建议,而我的建议竟然被采纳了。
07:00
One of them also being,
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但是其中的一个建议
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although logically it's quite a good idea
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尽管逻辑上讲是不错的
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to have a lift with no up and down button in it,
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即是电梯里不安上下键
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if it only serves two floors,
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但如果电梯只在两层楼间运作的话
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it's actually bloody terrifying, okay?
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那样其实是很恐怖的一件事
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Because when the door closes
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因为当门关上后
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and there's nothing for you to do,
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你什么都不用做了
07:15
you've actually just stepped into a Hammer film.
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仿佛此刻你一脚踏进了恐怖电影的场景里
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(Laughter)
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笑声
07:19
So these questions ... what is happening in the world
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这种种的问题都说明了,当今世界
07:21
is the big stuff, actually,
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重大的问题
07:23
is done magnificently well.
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被解决得很好
07:25
But the small stuff, what you might call the user interface,
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而细节问题,类似于用户连接口的问题
07:28
is done spectacularly badly.
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却解决得十分糟糕
07:30
But also, there seems to be a complete sort of gridlock
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同时,在解决这些细节问题时
07:33
in terms of solving these small solutions.
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人们往往陷入一种僵局
07:36
Because the people who can actually solve them
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因为那些真正能够解决问题的人
07:38
actually are too powerful and too preoccupied
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往往权高位重,整天忙于
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with something they think of as "strategy" to actually solve them.
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思考“战略性”的问题而不是实际地去解决
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I tried this exercise recently, talking about banking.
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说到银行业,我最近遇到了这样一件事
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They said, "Can we do an advertising campaign?
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一些银行业人士向我咨询“我们能够以广告来竞争吗?
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What can we do and encourage more online banking?"
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我们怎样能推广银行在线业务呢
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I said, "It's really, really easy."
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我说,“这其实相当简单。“
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I said, "When people login to their online bank
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比如,“当人们登陆到他们的网上银行里
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there are lots and lots of things they'd probably quite like to look at.
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是为了查看各种信息
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The last thing in the world you ever want to see is your balance."
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而最不愿意看到的就是自己的结余。
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I've got friends who actually
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我有一些朋友
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never use their own bank cash machines
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从来没有用过自己银行的现金取款机
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because there's the risk that it might display
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仅仅因为怕在屏幕上
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their balance on the screen.
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看到自己的结余。
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Why would you willingly expose yourself to bad news?
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谁愿意让自己得知坏消息呢?
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Okay, you simply wouldn't.
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我才不呢
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I said, "If you make, actually, 'Tell me my balance.'
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我告诉他们,“如果你们把“显示我的结余”改为可选
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If you make that an option rather than the default,
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而不是让它自动显示
08:19
you'll find twice as many people log on to online banking,
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那么你登陆网上银行的客户将会翻一番
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and they do it three times as often."
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并且登陆频率增加两倍
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Let's face it, most of us -- how many of you
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说实话,我们在座有多少人
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actually check your balance before you remove cash from a cash machine?
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会在取现后查看自己的收支状况?
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And you're pretty rich by the standards of the world at large.
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还不用说按世界平均水平来看你们大多属于有钱人
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Now, interesting that no single person does that,
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看吧,一个也没有
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or at least can admit to being so anal as to do it.
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或者说即使有也不愿承认自己会那样做
08:39
But what's interesting about that suggestion
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关于这些提议,有趣的是
08:41
was that, to implement that suggestion wouldn't cost 10 million pounds;
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要实行它花不了一千英镑
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it wouldn't involve large amounts of expenditure;
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实际花得挺少
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it would actually cost about 50 quid.
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不过50磅左右
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And yet, it never happens.
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然而它至今没有被实行
08:50
Because there's a fundamental disconnect, as I said,
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这就回到了我所说的严重脱节问题上
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that actually, the people with the power
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即有权的人
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want to do big expensive things.
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想做费钱的事
08:57
And there's to some extent a big strategy myth
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现在有一种策略误解现象
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that's prevalent in business now.
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在商界很普遍
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And if you think about it, it's very, very important
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如果多加思考便会发现,其实是非常有必要
09:03
that the strategy myth is maintained.
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维持这种现状的
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Because, if the board of directors convince everybody
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因为董事会得说服公司成员
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that the success of any organization
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任何集体的成功
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is almost entirely dependent on the decisions made by the board of directors,
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都几乎完全归功于董事会所作的决策
09:13
it makes the disparity in salaries
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这才能使薪水上巨大的差异
09:16
slightly more justifiable
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显得更加合理
09:18
than if you actually acknowledge that quite a lot of the credit for a company's success
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而不是去承认公司的成功
09:21
might actually lie somewhere else,
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其实在于许多别的方面
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in small pieces of tactical activity.
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比如那些微不足道的战略性活动
09:26
But what is happening is that effectively --
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然而,现在的实际情况是——
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and the invention of the spreadsheet hasn't helped this;
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电子表格并没有促成这一状况
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lots of things haven't helped this --
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很多事情也与此无关——
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business and government suffers from a kind of physics envy.
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在商界和政界都有一种妒忌心理
09:35
It wants the world to be the kind of place where
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它们希望这在个世界里
09:38
the input and the change are proportionate.
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投入与产出是成正比的
09:41
It's a kind of mechanistic world
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我们都喜欢生活在一个
09:43
that we'd all love to live in
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符合机械理论的世界里
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where, effectively, it sits very nicely on spreadsheets,
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所有的事物都可以通过数据
09:48
everything is numerically expressible,
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清晰地在电子表格上表示出来
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and the amount you spend on something is proportionate
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而你在事物上所花的时间
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to the scale of your success.
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将与你的收效成正比
09:55
That's the world people actually want.
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这样的世界大家都渴望
09:57
In truth, we do live in a world that science can understand.
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而我们也的确生活在一个以科学为基调的世界
09:59
Unfortunately, the science is probably closer to being climatology
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不幸的是,这里科学可能更接近于气象学
10:02
in that in many cases,
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在很多情况下
10:04
very, very small changes
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微小的改变
10:06
can have disproportionately huge effects,
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也可能带来天翻地覆的变化
10:08
and equally, vast areas of activity, enormous mergers,
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而恰恰相反,大范围的运作,巨大的公司合并
10:11
can actually accomplish absolutely bugger-all.
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到头来却没有带来任何改变
10:15
But it's very, very uncomfortable for us
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但要我们承认这一点
10:17
to actually acknowledge that we're living in such a world.
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是十分困难的
10:20
But what I'm saying is we could just make things
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我想说的是,许多事情
10:22
a little bit better for ourselves
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将会变得更加容易
10:24
if we looked at it in this very simple four-way approach.
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如果我们把问题分成这样四大类
10:28
That is actually strategy, and I'm not denying that strategy has a role.
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这才是一种策略,当然不否认每种策略都有它的适用性
10:31
You know, there are cases where you spend quite a lot of money
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要知道,毕竟也有的事情是需要花费大量财力
10:33
and you accomplish quite a lot.
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才能取得大的成果
10:35
And I'd be wrong to dis that completely.
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我不否认这一点
10:38
Moving over, we come, of course, to consultancy.
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接下来我们就来说一下咨询方面
10:40
(Laughter)
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笑声
10:44
I thought it was very indecent of Accenture
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在我看来,埃森哲(一家咨询公司,主要提供管理咨询,技术咨询和外包服务)
10:46
to ditch Tiger Woods in such
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这样草率地抛弃泰格伍兹
10:48
a sort of hurried and hasty way.
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是一件很不光彩的事
10:50
I mean, Tiger surely was actually obeying the Accenture model.
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因为泰格实际上是遵循了埃森哲服务模式的
10:53
He developed an interesting outsourcing model for sexual services,
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他为性服务建立起一个有趣的外包模式
10:56
(Laughter)
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笑声
10:58
no longer tied to a single monopoly provider,
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不再被单一的供货商垄断(婚外性行为)
11:01
in many cases, sourcing things locally,
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在很多情况下本地采购(性伴侣)
11:04
and of course, the ability to have between one and three girls delivered at any time
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同时,在任何时候都能保证一到三个女孩供应
11:07
led for better load-balancing.
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使得负载更加平衡
11:10
So what Accenture suddenly found so unattractive about that, I'm not sure.
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所以我实在搞不懂为什么埃森哲突然不喜欢泰格了
11:13
Then there are other things that don't cost much and achieve absolutely nothing.
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还有一类事情尽管不需要花费太多,却无法取得任何成效
11:16
That's called trivia.
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人们称之为琐碎
11:18
But there's a fourth thing.
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但最后这一类事情,即第四类
11:20
And the fundamental problem is we don't actually have a word for this stuff.
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我们难以用言语来描述
11:23
We don't know what to call it.
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我们不知如何指代它
11:25
And actually we don't spend nearly enough money
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而且我们很少花费资金
11:28
looking for those things,
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来寻找这类事
11:30
looking for those tiny things that may or may not work,
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它们尽管微不足道,但却有可能带来大的改变
11:33
but which, if they do work,
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如果确实起了作用
11:35
can have a success absolutely out of proportion
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那么它们将取得的成功绝对会远远超出
11:37
to their expense, their efforts
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当初所投入的人力物力
11:39
and the disruption they cause.
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和造成的干扰
11:41
So the first thing I'd like
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因此,首先我希望
11:43
is a competition -- to anybody watching this as a film --
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每一个看过这次演讲的人都来参与这样一个竞赛
11:45
is to come up with a name for that stuff on the bottom right.
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即为右下角的这第四种事物命
11:48
And the second thing, I think,
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其次,我认为
11:50
is that the world needs to have people in charge of that.
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这个世界需要有人来掌握这种事物
11:52
That's why I call for the "Chief Detail Officer."
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这就是为什么我呼吁“细节总官员”的设立
11:54
Every corporation should have one,
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每个公司都应该有一个这样的职位
11:56
and every government should have a Ministry of Detail.
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而每个政府都应该有一个细节部门
11:59
The people who actually have no money,
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担任此职的人不应当有钱
12:01
who have no extravagant budget,
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或者豪华预算
12:03
but who realize that actually
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并且要能意识这样一点
12:05
you might achieve greater success in uptake
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付双倍的代价有可能
12:07
of a government program
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在政府工作中
12:09
by actually doubling the level of benefits you pay,
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取得更大的政绩
12:11
but you'll probably achieve exactly that same effect
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但你也往往也能取得同样的效果
12:14
simply by redesigning the form
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仅仅通过重新设计表格
12:16
and writing it in comprehensible English.
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并以更易懂的英文表述
12:18
And if actually we created a Ministry of Detail
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如果我们的政界能设立一个细节部门
12:21
and business actually had Chief Detail Officers,
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而商界有一个总细节长官
12:23
then that fourth quadrant,
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那么这第四类
12:25
which is so woefully neglected at the moment,
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常可悲地被人遗忘的事物
12:27
might finally get the attention it deserves.
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可能最终将得到其应有的关注
12:29
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢大家
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