Why being respectful to your coworkers is good for business | Christine Porath
380,793 views ・ 2018-10-24
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翻译人员: Annie Zhang
校对人员: Cissy Yun
00:12
Who do you want to be?
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你想成为谁?
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It's a simple question,
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这是一个简单的问题,
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and whether you know it or not,
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不管你知不知道答案,
00:19
you're answering it every day
through your actions.
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你每天都在用你的行动回答它。
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This one question will define
your professional success
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这一个问题会比其他的问题
更好地定义
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more than any other,
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你事业的成功,
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because how you show up
and treat people means everything.
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因为你的表现和对待他人的方式
代表了一切。
00:34
Either you lift people up
by respecting them,
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不论你是举高他人
通过尊重他们
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making them feel valued,
appreciated and heard,
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使他们感到重视,
欣赏和倾听,
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or you hold people down
by making them feel small,
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还是压制他人
通过使他们感到渺小,
00:47
insulted, disregarded or excluded.
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侮辱、忽视或排斥。
00:52
And who you choose to be means everything.
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你选择成为谁代表着一切
00:56
I study the effects
of incivility on people.
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我研究了在人类身上
不文明行为的影响。
00:59
What is incivility?
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什么是不文明?
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It's disrespect or rudeness.
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是不尊重或者粗鲁无礼。
01:03
It includes a lot of different behaviors,
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它包含了许多不同的行为,
01:06
from mocking or belittling someone
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从嘲笑或者轻蔑某人,
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to teasing people in ways that sting
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到以刺痛的方式戏弄他人,
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to telling offensive jokes
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到开冒犯人的玩笑,
01:12
to texting in meetings.
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到在会议上发短信。
01:14
And what's uncivil to one person
may be absolutely fine to another.
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一个人觉得失礼的行为,
另一个来说是完全可以接受的。
01:19
Take texting while someone's
speaking to you.
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当别人在跟你说话的时候发短信,
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Some of us may find it rude,
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我们当中的一些人
可能觉得这很无礼
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others may think it's absolutely civil.
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另一些人可能觉得
这完全可以接受。
01:27
So it really depends.
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所以这真的得看情况。
01:28
It's all in the eyes of the beholder
and whether that person felt disrespected.
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这完全取决于旁观者的看法
和那个人是否感到不尊重。
01:34
We may not mean to make
someone feel that way,
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我们可能并没有让某人
那么想的打算,
01:37
but when we do, it has consequences.
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但是当我们做了后,
它有了代价。
01:41
Over 22 years ago,
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22多年前,
01:43
I vividly recall walking into
this stuffy hospital room.
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我清楚地记得
走进这个古板的医院病房
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It was heartbreaking to see my dad,
this strong, athletic, energetic guy,
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我心碎的看着我爸爸这个坚强,
体格健壮,精力充沛的男人,
01:53
lying in the bed with electrodes
strapped to his bare chest.
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躺在床上
电极绑在他裸露的胸膛上。
01:58
What put him there
was work-related stress.
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使他躺在那里的
是和工作相关的压力。
02:02
For over a decade,
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十多年来,
02:04
he suffered an uncivil boss.
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他有一个不文明的老板。
02:09
And for me, I thought he was
just an outlier at that time.
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我曾以为他只是一个特例。
02:14
But just a couple years later,
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但是仅仅几年后,
02:16
I witnessed and experienced
a lot of incivility
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在我毕业后的第一个工作内
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in my first job out of college.
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我眼见和亲身遭遇了
许多不文明行为。
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I spent a year going to work every day
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我花了一年的时间每天去工作
02:24
and hearing things from coworkers like,
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和听取同事的意见,
就像
02:27
"Are you an idiot?
That's not how it's done,"
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"你是白痴吗?
这不是这么做的"
02:30
and, "If I wanted your opinion, I'd ask."
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和 “我如果需要你的意见,
我会问。”
02:35
So I did the natural thing.
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所以我做了再自然不过的事情。
02:37
I quit, and I went back to grad school
to study the effects of this.
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辞职, 然后回到大学
研究这个对人产生的效应
02:42
There, I met Christine Pearson.
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在那里, 我认识了
克里斯廷·皮尔森,
02:45
And she had a theory
that small, uncivil actions
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她有一个理论
那些小小的, 不文明的行为,
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can lead to much bigger problems
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可导致更大的问题,
02:51
like aggression and violence.
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比如侵略和暴力。
02:53
We believed that incivility affected
performance and the bottom line.
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我们相信不礼貌行为会影响
一个人的表现和结果。
02:57
So we launched a study,
and what we found was eye-opening.
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所以我们开展了一个研究,
所发现的让我们大开眼界
03:02
We sent a survey to business school alumni
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我们寄了一个调查表给
在不同机构工作的
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working in all different organizations.
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商学院的学生,
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We asked them to write a few sentences
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我们要求他们写一小段
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about one experience
where they were treated rudely,
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关于他们被粗鲁对待,
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disrespectfully or insensitively,
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不被尊重或是被无视的一段经历,
03:15
and to answer questions
about how they reacted.
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然后回答
他们当时是什么反应?
03:20
One person told us about a boss
that made insulting statements like,
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有人告诉我们有一个老板
一直说侮辱性的话:
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"That's kindergartner's work,"
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“那是幼儿园小孩的工作。”
03:26
and another tore up someone's work
in front of the entire team.
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另一个在全队面前
把某人的工作撕毁。
03:31
And what we found is that incivility
made people less motivated:
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我们发现了那些不文明行为
会消减人们的动力,
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66 percent cut back work efforts,
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66%的人们工作动力减少,
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80 percent lost time
worrying about what happened,
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80%的人们浪费时间
担心发生的事情,
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and 12 percent left their job.
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和12%直接辞职。
03:46
And after we published these results,
two things happened.
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当我们公布了这些结果后,
发生了两件事情。
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One, we got calls from organizations.
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一, 我们接到了企业的电话
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Cisco read about these numbers,
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思科系统阅读了这些数据,
03:55
took just a few of these
and estimated, conservatively,
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使用了其中的一些,
作了保守的估计,
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that incivility was costing them
12 million dollars a year.
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发现他们曾因为不文明的行为
一年损失了了1200万美元。
04:03
The second thing that happened was,
we heard from others in our academic field
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第二件发生的事情是,我们
听到了在学术界的人说:
04:08
who said, "Well, people are reporting
this, but how can you really show it?
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“好吧,人们在报道它,
但是你可以真的证明它吗?
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Does people's performance really suffer?"
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人们的表现真的会变糟吗?“
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I was curious about that, too.
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我也对它很好奇。
04:19
With Amir Erez, I compared
those that experienced incivility
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和阿米尔·埃雷兹一起, 我对比了
遭遇过不文明行为的人
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to those that didn't
experience incivility.
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和不曾受到不文明行为的人。
04:26
And what we found is that those
that experience incivility
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我们发现那些
受到过不文明行为的
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do actually function much worse.
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工作真的会做得更差。
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"OK," you may say. "This makes sense.
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“好吧,” 你可能会说。
“这是讲得通的。
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After all, it's natural
that their performance suffers."
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他们的表现会变糟
是自然的事情。”
04:40
But what about if you're not
the one who experiences it?
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但是如果你不是那个
经历过的人呢?
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What if you just see or hear it?
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如果你只是看到或者听到呢?
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You're a witness.
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你是目击者。
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We wondered if it affected witnesses, too.
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我们想知道目击者
会不会也受到影响。
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So we conducted studies
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所以我们进行了研究
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where five participants would witness
an experimenter act rudely
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五个参加者见证
实验者粗鲁地对待
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to someone who arrived late to the study.
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一个晚到实验室的人。
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The experimenter said,
"What is it with you?
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实验者说,
“你怎么回事?
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You arrive late, you're irresponsible.
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你晚到,你不负责任。
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Look at you! How do you expect
to hold a job in the real world?"
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看看你自己! 你怎么可能
胜任现实世界里的工作?“
05:09
And in another study in a small group,
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在另一个小组研究中,
05:11
we tested the effects of a peer
insulting a group member.
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我们测试了同僚
侮辱一个队友的影响。
05:15
Now, what we found was really interesting,
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现在, 我们发现了
非常令人感兴趣的
05:17
because witnesses'
performance decreased, too --
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因为目击者的表现
也降低了--
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and not just marginally,
quite significantly.
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不仅仅是轻微的,
非常显著。
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Incivility is a bug.
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不文明是个病
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It's contagious,
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会传染的病,
05:30
and we become carriers of it
just by being around it.
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我们会仅仅因为在附近
而被传染
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And this isn't confined to the workplace.
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而且不只限于工作的地方。
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We can catch this virus anywhere --
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随时随地我们都有可能
感染病毒,
05:39
at home, online, in schools
and in our communities.
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在家里, 在网上, 在学校
和在我们的社区。
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It affects our emotions,
our motivation, our performance
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它会影响我们的心情,
动力,表现
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and how we treat others.
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和怎么对待他人。
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It even affects our attention
and can take some of our brainpower.
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它甚至会影响我们的注意力
和剥夺一些脑力。
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And this happens not only
if we experience incivility
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它的发生不仅仅是
因为我们经历过
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or we witness it.
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或者目睹过不文明,
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It can happen even if we
just see or read rude words.
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它甚至会因为我们
看过或者读过粗鲁的话而发生。
06:06
Let me give you an example of what I mean.
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让我给你们打个比喻。
06:09
To test this, we gave people
combinations of words
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为了证明这个, 我们给了别人
一些词的组合
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to use to make a sentence.
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让他们造句。
06:14
But we were very sneaky.
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但是我们非常狡猾。
06:16
Half the participants got a list
with 15 words used to trigger rudeness:
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有一半的参与者收到一个
触发粗鲁的十五个词的列表:
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impolitely, interrupt, obnoxious, bother.
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没礼貌, 打断,
惹人厌,打扰。
06:27
Half the participants
received a list of words
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另一半的参与者收到了
不会触发粗鲁的词的列表。
06:30
with none of these rude triggers.
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06:32
And what we found was really surprising,
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我们的发现令人惊讶,
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because the people who got the rude words
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因为收到粗鲁词的人们
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were five times more likely to miss
information right in front of them
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在电脑屏幕前
漏掉信息的可能性
比其他人多出了五倍。
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on the computer screen.
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06:44
And as we continued this research,
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当我们继续这个研究时,
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what we found is that those
that read the rude words
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我们还发现了那些读过
粗鲁词的人们
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took longer to make decisions,
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需要更长的时间
做决定,
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to record their decisions,
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记录决定,
06:53
and they made significantly more errors.
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而且他们明显犯了更多的错误。
06:57
This can be a big deal,
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这非常重要,
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especially when it comes
to life-and-death situations.
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尤其是在
生和死的局面里。
07:02
Steve, a physician, told me
about a doctor that he worked with
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史蒂夫, 一名从医者,
曾告诉过我关于一名
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who was never very respectful,
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他曾一起工作过的医生。
他从来不尊重别人,
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especially to junior staff and nurses.
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尤其是对资历较浅的员工和护士。
07:11
But Steve told me about
this one particular interaction
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但是史蒂夫告诉我
有一次,
07:14
where this doctor shouted
at a medical team.
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那个医生对团队大声训斥。
07:18
Right after the interaction,
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刚好在那之后,
07:20
the team gave the wrong dosage
of medication to their patient.
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团队开了错的药的剂量
给他们的患者。
07:25
Steve said the information
was right there on the chart,
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史蒂夫说所有信息就在图表上,
07:29
but somehow everyone
on the team missed it.
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但是不知道怎么的
团队里的每个人都错过了它。
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He said they lacked the attention
or awareness to take it into account.
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他说他们缺乏注意力,
也没有考虑全信息的意识。
07:37
Simple mistake, right?
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不过是个简单的错误, 对吗?
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Well, that patient died.
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嗯, 那个患者死了。
07:42
Researchers in Israel have actually shown
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以色列的研究者们发现
07:45
that medical teams exposed to rudeness
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承受过粗鲁行为的
医疗团队
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perform worse not only
in all their diagnostics,
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不仅仅是在他们
所有的诊断上表现差,
07:51
but in all the procedures they did.
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而是在所有他们做过的事情上
表现差。
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This was mainly because
the teams exposed to rudeness
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最主要是因为
被粗鲁对待过的团队
07:57
didn't share information as readily,
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不会乐意共享信息,
08:00
and they stopped seeking
help from their teammates.
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他们还会停止寻求队友帮助。
08:03
And I see this not only in medicine
but in all industries.
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我并不只是在医疗行业上看到
而是在所有的行业里。
08:08
So if incivility has such a huge cost,
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所以如果不文明
有这么大的代价的话,
08:11
why do we still see so much of it?
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它为什么还这么常见?
08:14
I was curious, so we surveyed
people about this, too.
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我很好奇, 所以我们也
做了关于这个的问卷调查。
08:18
The number one reason is stress.
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最重要的原因是压力,
08:20
People feel overwhelmed.
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人们感到被压垮了。
08:23
The other reason that people
are not more civil
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人们不再文明还因为
08:26
is because they're skeptical
and even concerned
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他们持怀疑态度,
甚至担心
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about being civil or appearing nice.
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成为文明或者好相处的人。
08:32
They believe they'll appear
less leader-like.
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他们坚信他们会看起来
不像领导者。
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They wonder: Do nice guys finish last?
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他们自问: 好相处的人们
真会坚持到最后吗?
08:38
Or in other words: Do jerks get ahead?
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或者说: 混蛋难道不一直会领先吗?
08:41
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:43
It's easy to think so,
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很容易会这么想,
08:44
especially when we see
a few prominent examples
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尤其是当我们看到
几个少数突出
08:47
that dominate the conversation.
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主导谈话的例子。
08:50
Well, it turns out,
in the long run, they don't.
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事实证明, 从长远来看,
他们并没有。
08:54
There's really rich research on this
by Morgan McCall and Michael Lombardo
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摩根·麦考尔和迈克尔·隆巴尔多,
当他们在创意领导中心的时候,
08:58
when they were at
the Center for Creative Leadership.
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对此进行了丰富的研究。
09:00
They found that the number one reason
tied to executive failure
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他们发现与执行失败相关的
主要原因是
09:05
was an insensitive, abrasive
or bullying style.
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一种不理智,使人厌烦的
或者欺凌的风格。
09:10
There will always be some outliers
that succeed despite their incivility.
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当然总会有一些例外,
即使他们不文明也成功了。
09:14
Sooner or later, though,
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早晚有一天,
09:16
most uncivil people
sabotage their success.
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大部分的不文明
会阻扰他们的成就。
09:20
For example, with uncivil executives,
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比如,不文明的领导,
09:22
it comes back to hurt them
when they're in a place of weakness
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当他们处于弱势
或者需要东西时
09:25
or they need something.
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就惨了。
09:26
People won't have their backs.
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因为别人不会支持他们。
09:29
But what about nice guys?
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那些好人呢?
09:31
Does civility pay?
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文明有回报吗?
09:33
Yes, it does.
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当然有。
09:35
And being civil doesn't just mean
that you're not a jerk.
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文明不代表你不是一个混蛋,
09:40
Not holding someone down
isn't the same as lifting them up.
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不轻视别人和鼓舞人们不一样。
09:44
Being truly civil means
doing the small things,
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真正的文明代表
做好小细节,
09:47
like smiling and saying
hello in the hallway,
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就像在过道微笑和打招呼,
09:50
listening fully when
someone's speaking to you.
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当别人跟你讲话时专注地倾听。
09:54
Now, you can have strong opinions,
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现在,你可以有强烈的意见,
09:56
disagree, have conflict
or give negative feedback civilly,
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不同意他人,与他人起冲突或者
文明地给别人负面的反馈,
10:01
with respect.
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前提是要尊重别人。
10:02
Some people call it "radical candor,"
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有些人叫它“彻底的坦率” ,
10:05
where you care personally,
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就是你关心对方,
10:06
but you challenge directly.
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同时也可以挑战对方。
10:09
So yes, civility pays.
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所以, 是的, 文明是有回报的。
10:12
In a biotechnology firm,
colleagues and I found
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在一个生物技术公司,
我和我同事发现
10:15
that those that were seen as civil
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那些被公认为文明的人
10:17
were twice as likely
to be viewed as leaders,
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被视为领导的可能性有两倍
10:20
and they performed significantly better.
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而且他们的表现明显较好。
10:23
Why does civility pay?
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为什么文明有回报?
10:25
Because people see you
as an important -- and a powerful --
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因为别人会看你是一个
重要的和强大的人
10:29
unique combination
of two key characteristics:
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结合两个特征的独一无二的组合:
10:33
warm and competent, friendly and smart.
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热情和能干, 友好和聪明。
10:37
In other words, being civil
isn't just about motivating others.
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用别的话来说,
文明不只可以激励别人
10:41
It's about you.
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也是为了自己。
10:43
If you're civil, you're more likely
to be seen as a leader.
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如果你文明,
你更有可能被看成一位领导者。
10:47
You'll perform better, and you're seen
as warm and competent.
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你会表现得更好,
同时看起来更热情和能干。
10:51
But there's an even bigger story
about how civility pays,
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文明的回报不止于此,
10:55
and it ties to one of the most
important questions around leadership:
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它与领导力最重要的问题息息相关:
11:00
What do people want most
from their leaders?
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大家从领导那里最想得到什么?
11:03
We took data from over
20,000 employees around the world,
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我们取了全世界2万员工的数据,
11:07
and we found the answer was simple:
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找到的答案很简单:
11:10
respect.
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尊重、
11:12
Being treated with respect
was more important
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被尊重对待
11:15
than recognition and appreciation,
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比认识和欣赏,
11:18
useful feedback,
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比有效的反馈
11:20
even opportunities for learning.
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甚至比学习的机会更重要。
11:22
Those that felt respected were healthier,
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那些感到被尊重对待的人更健康,
11:26
more focused,
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更集中,
11:27
more likely to stay
with their organization
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更有可能留在机构里
11:30
and far more engaged.
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和更投入。
11:34
So where do you start?
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所以你该从哪里开始?
11:36
How can you lift people up
and make people feel respected?
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你要怎么让别人振作起来
和让他们感到尊重?
11:40
Well, the nice thing is,
it doesn't require a huge shift.
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值得高兴的是,
它不需要很大的改变。
11:43
Small things can make a big difference.
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做小小的事情可以有很大的改变。
11:47
I found that thanking people,
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我发现学会感恩,
11:49
sharing credit,
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分享功劳,
11:51
listening attentively,
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专注的聆听,
11:53
humbly asking questions,
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谦虚的提问,
11:56
acknowledging others and smiling
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认可他人和微笑
11:58
has an impact.
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都是有影响的。
12:01
Patrick Quinlan, former CEO
of Ochsner Health [System],
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帕特里克·昆兰,奥斯纳
健康系统的前执行首席官,
12:05
told me about the effects
of their 10-5 way,
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曾告诉过我他们的
“10-5步”的方法,
12:08
where if you're within 10 feet of someone,
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当你跟某人在十英尺的距离内,
12:10
you make eye contact and smile,
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你要和他对视微笑,
12:13
and if you're within five feet,
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当你们在五英尺的距离内
12:14
you say hello.
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你要说你好。
12:16
He explained that civility spread,
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他说文明行为扩展了,
12:19
patient satisfaction scores rose,
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患者的满足指数提升了,
12:21
as did patient referrals.
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患者的推荐指数也上升了。
12:24
Civility and respect can be used
to boost an organization's performance.
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文明和尊重可以促进
机构的业绩。
12:29
When my friend Doug Conant took over
as CEO of Campbell's Soup Company in 2001,
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当我的朋友道格·康南特在2011
出任坎贝尔公司的首席执行官时,
12:35
the company's market share
had just dropped in half.
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公司的股票刚跌了一半,
12:38
Sales were declining,
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销售在往下跌,
12:40
lots of people had just been laid off.
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很多人被解雇了。
12:42
A Gallup manager said it was
the least engaged organization
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一位盖洛普经理表示
在他们的调查历史中,
12:46
that they had surveyed.
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这是最不受欢迎的组织。
12:48
And as Doug drove up
to work his first day,
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当道格第一天开车去上班时,
12:51
he noticed that the headquarters
was surrounded by barbwire fence.
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他发现总公司被
铁钢丝的围墙包围,
12:56
There were guard towers
in the parking lot.
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停车场里有警卫塔。
12:59
He said it looked like
a minimum security prison.
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他说就像一个
小小的安全监狱。
13:03
It felt toxic.
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他感觉非常有害。
13:06
Within five years, Doug
had turned things around.
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在五年内,道格
改变了很多东西,
13:10
And within nine years, they were setting
all-time performance records
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在九年内, 他们突破了
空前的业绩记录,
13:13
and racking up awards,
including best place to work.
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并获得奖项,
包括最好的工作场所。
13:17
How did he do it?
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他是怎么做到的?
13:19
On day one, Doug told employees
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第一天,道格就跟员工说
13:21
that he was going to have
high standards for performance,
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他会有很高的业绩标准,
13:24
but they were going
to do it with civility.
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但是我们要文明地达到它。
13:26
He walked the talk,
and he expected his leaders to.
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他带头表态, 同时
他也希望他的领导们也能这样。
13:30
For Doug, it all came down
to being tough-minded on standards
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对于Doug来说, 这一切
都是对标准的坚韧
13:35
and tenderhearted with people.
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和温厚的待人。
13:38
For him, he said it was all about
these touch points,
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对于他来说,
这全是关于这些接触点
13:41
or these daily interactions
he had with employees,
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或者他和员工的这些日常互动,
13:44
whether in the hallway,
in the cafeteria or in meetings.
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不论是在走廊,
在咖啡厅或者在会议室。
13:49
And if he handled each touch point well,
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如果他处理好每个接触点,
13:51
he'd make employees feel valued.
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他会使员工感到有价值。
13:55
Another way that Doug
made employees feel valued
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道格还有一个使他员工感到被重视,
13:58
and showed them that
he was paying attention
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让员工知道他有心方法:
14:01
is that he handwrote over 30,000
thank-you notes to employees.
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他给他的员工们手写了
三万张感谢条。
14:06
And this set an example for other leaders.
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这给其他领导人树立了榜样。
14:10
Leaders have about 400
of these touch points a day.
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他们每天大概有
400个这样的接触点,
14:14
Most don't take long,
less than two minutes each.
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大部分都不长,少于两分钟,
14:17
The key is to be agile and mindful
in each of these moments.
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重点是在每个时刻
保持敏捷和专注。
14:22
Civility lifts people.
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文明能鼓励人们。
14:25
We'll get people to give more
and function at their best
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我们会让热门更好的
发挥他们的作用,
14:28
if we're civil.
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如果我们用文明的方式。
14:30
Incivility chips away at people
and their performance.
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不文明会一点点消耗人
并影响他们的业绩,
14:33
It robs people of their potential,
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它剥夺了人们的潜能,
14:35
even if they're just working around it.
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即便是一旁工作的人也一样。
14:39
What I know from my research is that
when we have more civil environments,
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我从我的研究中了解到的是
当我们有更文明的环境时
14:43
we're more productive, creative,
helpful, happy and healthy.
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我们更有效率,更有创造力,
更愿意帮助别人,更快乐和更健康。
14:49
We can do better.
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我们可以做的更好。
14:51
Each one of us can be more mindful
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我们中的每个人可以更小心,
14:54
and can take actions
to lift others up around us,
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也可以采取行动提升
我们身边的每个人,
14:58
at work, at home, online,
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在工作上, 在家里, 在网上,
15:01
in schools
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在学校里
15:02
and in our communities.
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和在我们的社区里。
15:04
In every interaction, think:
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在每个互动里,想一下
15:07
Who do you want to be?
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你想成为谁?
15:10
Let's put an end to incivility bug
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让我们结束不文明,
15:12
and start spreading civility.
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和开始扩散文明。
15:15
After all, it pays.
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最后的最后, 它是有回报的
15:18
Thank you.
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谢谢。
15:19
(Applause)
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