Steven Johnson: A guided tour of the Ghost Map

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翻译人员: zhang he 校对人员: Xiaoqiao Xie
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If you haven't ordered yet, I generally find the rigatoni with the spicy tomato sauce
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如果你还没有点菜,我通常发现带有辣番茄就酱的肋状通心粉
00:32
goes best with diseases of the small intestine.
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和小肠疾病最相配。
00:35
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So, sorry -- it just feels like I should be doing stand-up up here because of the setting.
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对不起——只是因为这里的环境我感觉我应该来个脱口秀。
00:41
No, what I want to do is take you back to 1854
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不,我想做的是在下面的几分钟,带你们回到1854年的伦敦。
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in London for the next few minutes, and tell the story --
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并且讲个故事——
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in brief -- of this outbreak,
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简单地说——关于一个瘟疫的爆发。
00:53
which in many ways, I think, helped create the world that we live in today,
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这个瘟疫,从很多方面来讲,我认为,帮助创造了我们今天生存的世界,
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and particularly the kind of city that we live in today.
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特别是我们现在居住的城市的样子。
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This period in 1854, in the middle part of the 19th century,
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1854年这个时期,19世纪的中期,
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in London's history, is incredibly interesting for a number of reasons.
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在伦敦的历史上是很不可思议的有趣的。原因有很多。
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But I think the most important one is that
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但是我认为最重要的一个原因是
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London was this city of 2.5 million people,
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伦敦是个拥有两百五十万人口的城市,
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and it was the largest city on the face of the planet at that point.
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它是那时候这个星球上最大的一个城市。
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But it was also the largest city that had ever been built.
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但是,它也是所有曾经建筑的城市中最大的。
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And so the Victorians were trying to live through
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所以维多利亚女王时代的人差不多是边过日子,
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and simultaneously invent a whole new scale of living:
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边创造着一种全新的生活标准。
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this scale of living that we, you know, now call "metropolitan living."
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这种生活标准,你知道,我们现在称之为都市生活。
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And it was in many ways, at this point in the mid-1850s, a complete disaster.
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从很多方面来讲,在19世纪50年代中期这个时间里,它是一个十足的灾难
01:38
They were basically a city living with a modern kind of industrial metropolis
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那时的城市生活基本上是一个现代的化的工业大都市
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with an Elizabethan public infrastructure.
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但是仅有伊丽莎白时期的古老的公共基础设施。
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So people, for instance, just to gross you out for a second,
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因此人们,举个例子来说,仅仅让你作呕一下子,
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had cesspools of human waste in their basement. Like, a foot to two feet deep.
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在他们的地下室,有人类排泄物的化粪池,大约,一两英尺深
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And they would just kind of throw the buckets down there
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并且他们可能只是扔一个水桶在那里
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and hope that it would somehow go away,
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并希望它以某种方式地消失,
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and of course it never really would go away.
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当然,它将永远不会消失。
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And all of this stuff, basically, had accumulated to the point
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而且,所有这些脏东西,基本上,都已经到达一个程度
02:07
where the city was incredibly offensive to just walk around in.
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就是这个城市,只是走走就非常令人讨厌。
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It was an amazingly smelly city. Not just because of the cesspools,
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它是一个非常臭的城市,不仅仅是因为那些化粪池,
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but also the sheer number of livestock in the city would shock people.
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而且这个城市里大量的家畜也会震惊人们。
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Not just the horses, but people had cows in their attics that they would use for milk,
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不仅仅是马,而且人们在屋顶上有他们用于牛奶的牛,
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that they would hoist up there and keep them in the attic
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他们可能会将那些牛升起来放到屋顶上
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until literally their milk ran out and they died,
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直到他们的牛奶确实的干涸,然后他们死亡,
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and then they would drag them off to the bone boilers down the street.
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接着,他们会将他们拖到街上的骨头锅炉里。
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So, you would just walk around London at this point
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因此,你将在这个时期,仅仅在伦敦市里走走
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and just be overwhelmed with this stench.
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就会被这种恶臭所压倒。
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And what ended up happening is that an entire emerging public health system
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最后发生的是当时新兴的公共健康系统认为
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became convinced that it was the smell that was killing everybody,
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恶臭正在不断的杀害每一个人,
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that was creating these diseases
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恶臭正在创造着那些每三年或四年就会发生的疾病
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that would wipe through the city every three or four years.
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扫遍这个城市。
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And cholera was really the great killer of this period.
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而且,霍乱真的是这个时期最强大的杀手。
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It arrived in London in 1832, and every four or five years
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它在1832出现在英国,然后每四年或五年发生一次。
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another epidemic would take 10,000, 20,000 people in London
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每次流行都在伦敦造成一万到两万人死亡,
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and throughout the U.K.
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并波及到整个英国。
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And so the authorities became convinced that this smell was this problem.
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因此,政府确信这个恶臭就是问题的根源。
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We had to get rid of the smell.
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我们必须摆脱这个恶臭。
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And so, in fact, they concocted a couple of early, you know,
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因此,事实上,他们建立了一些早先的,你知道
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founding public-health interventions in the system of the city,
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在城市系统里,成立公共卫生干预措施
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one of which was called the "Nuisances Act,"
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那些措施中的一个被成为”滋扰法“
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which they got everybody as far as they could
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就是他们尽量让每个人
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to empty out their cesspools and just pour all that waste into the river.
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把他们的花粪池清得越空越好,将所有的排泄屋倾倒到河里。
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Because if we get it out of the streets, it'll smell much better,
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因为如果我们将它从街上弄走,城市应该就闻起来好多了,
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and -- oh right, we drink from the river.
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噢,对了,我们饮用河里的水。
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So what ended up happening, actually,
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因此,结局,事实上
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is they ended up increasing the outbreaks of cholera
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是他们最后增加了霍乱的爆发。
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because, as we now know, cholera is actually in the water.
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因为,就像我们现在知道的,霍乱其实就在水里。
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It's a waterborne disease, not something that's in the air.
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它是一个由水携带传播的。而不是通过空气。
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It's not something you smell or inhale; it's something you ingest.
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它不是你闻进去或呼吸进去的东西,它是你咽下去的东西。
03:50
And so one of the founding moments of public health in the 19th century
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所以,19世纪公共健康系统的创立,
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effectively poisoned the water supply of London much more effectively
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有效地污染了伦敦的供应水,比
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than any modern day bioterrorist could have ever dreamed of doing.
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任何现代生物恐怖分子梦想做的更有效。
04:01
So this was the state of London in 1854,
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这就是伦敦在1854年的状况,
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and in the middle of all this carnage and offensive conditions,
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在这种屠杀和进攻的时期,
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and in the midst of all this scientific confusion
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和这种科学认识上的混乱之中,
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about what was actually killing people,
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这样的状况事实上是在屠杀人们。
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it was a very talented classic 19th century multi-disciplinarian named John Snow,
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那时有一个名叫斯诺的人,他是个非常有才华的19世纪的传统的多规律学者,
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who was a local doctor in Soho in London,
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他是伦敦苏荷的一个地方医生,
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who had been arguing for about four or five years
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他一直争论了四五年。
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that cholera was, in fact, a waterborne disease,
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他认为霍乱,实际上,是一个种水性疾病,
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and had basically convinced nobody of this.
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而且,基本上没有一个人相信他。
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The public health authorities had largely ignored what he had to say.
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公共健康机关完全忽略了他的话。
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And he'd made the case in a number of papers and done a number of studies,
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而且,他把他的想法写成了很多论文,还做了很多研究,
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but nothing had really stuck.
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但是,没有一个真正被保存下来的。
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And part of -- what's so interesting about this story to me
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另外,关于他的故事,我非常感兴趣的一部分
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is that in some ways, it's a great case study in how cultural change happens,
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是 ,从某些方面来讲,这是个非常重要的案例来研究文化的进展是如何发生的。
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how a good idea eventually comes to win out over much worse ideas.
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一个好的想法是如何最终战胜那些不好的想法的。
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And Snow labored for a long time with this great insight that everybody ignored.
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斯洛为这个被每一个人忽略的伟大观点辛劳了很长一段时间。
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And then on one day, August 28th of 1854,
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然后,有一天,1854年8月28日,
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a young child, a five-month-old girl whose first name we don't know,
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一个小孩,一个5个月大的小女孩,我们不知道她姓什么,
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we know her only as Baby Lewis, somehow contracted cholera,
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我们只知道她叫宝贝刘易斯,不知如何染上了霍乱。
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came down with cholera at 40 Broad Street.
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这样霍乱来到了40大街。
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You can't really see it in this map, but this is the map
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在这个地图上,你无法真正看到这个地方,但是,就是这个地图
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that becomes the central focus in the second half of my book.
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成为我的书的后半部分的中心内容。
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It's in the middle of Soho, in this working class neighborhood,
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它位于苏荷的中部,工人阶级居住的地方。
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this little girl becomes sick and it turns out that the cesspool,
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这个小女孩病了。 而那里有一个化粪池,
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that they still continue to have, despite the Nuisances Act,
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他们不管滋扰法,依然保持着的化粪池,
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bordered on an extremely popular water pump,
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濒临一个非常受欢迎的水泵,
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local watering hole that was well known for the best water in all of Soho,
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这个水泵被认为是整个苏荷最好的水源。
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that all the residents from Soho and the surrounding neighborhoods would go to.
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所有的苏荷居民,还有周围的居民都会去。
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And so this little girl inadvertently ended up
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这个小女孩最后无意中
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contaminating the water in this popular pump,
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污染了这个受欢迎的水泵里的水。
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and one of the most terrifying outbreaks in the history of England
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接着英国历史上最可怕的瘟疫,
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erupted about two or three days later.
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就在两三天后爆发了。
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Literally, 10 percent of the neighborhood died in seven days,
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从字面上讲,在七天里,十分之一的居民都死了。
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and much more would have died if people hadn't fled
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如果人们没有在最初几天逃离,
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after the initial outbreak kicked in.
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更多的人会死。
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So it was this incredibly terrifying event.
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所以,是这个难以置信的可怕事件。
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You had these scenes of entire families dying
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你可以看到整个家庭,
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over the course of 48 hours of cholera,
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在48小时里,死于霍乱。
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alone in their one-room apartments, in their little flats.
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孤单地死在他们的一间屋的公寓,或小套间里。
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Just an extraordinary, terrifying scene.
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一个非常可怕的场面。
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Snow lived near there, heard about the outbreak,
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斯洛住在那附近,听到了这个事件,
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and in this amazing act of courage went directly into the belly of the beast
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极其有勇气的直接进入这个虎口
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because he thought an outbreak that concentrated
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因为他认为这个瘟疫的爆发
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could actually potentially end up convincing people that,
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可能能让人们相信,
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in fact, the real menace of cholera was in the water supply and not in the air.
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事实上,霍乱其实是真正通过饮用水而不是空气威胁人们的。
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He suspected an outbreak that concentrated
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他怀疑这么集中的瘟疫爆发
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would probably involve a single point source.
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可能始于一个单一的点源。
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One single thing that everybody was going to
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一个每个人去过的一个单一的点。
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because it didn't have the traditional slower path
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因为这次没有传统的
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of infections that you might expect.
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你能预料的感染的缓慢途径。
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And so he went right in there and started interviewing people.
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因此,他去了那里,并开始了采访人们。
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He eventually enlisted the help of this amazing other figure,
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他最终得到了这个另外一个惊人的人物的帮助,
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who's kind of the other protagonist of the book --
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他就是这本书的另外一个主角。
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this guy, Henry Whitehead, who was a local minister,
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这个人,亨利白石,是当地的牧师,
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who was not at all a man of science, but was incredibly socially connected;
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他完全不相信科学,但他有非常好的社会关系。
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he knew everybody in the neighborhood.
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他知道那里的每一个人,
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And he managed to track down, Whitehead did,
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所以他设法调查了,白石调查了,
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many of the cases of people who had drunk water from the pump,
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很多人喝了这个水泵里的水的人,
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or who hadn't drunk water from the pump.
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和那些没有喝这个水泵里的水的人。
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And eventually Snow made a map of the outbreak.
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最后斯洛给这个事件画了一张图。
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He found increasingly that people who drank from the pump were getting sick.
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他逐渐发现喝过这个水泵里的水的人在不停的生病。
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People who hadn't drunk from the pump were not getting sick.
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没有喝过那个水泵里的水的人没有生病。
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And he thought about representing that
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然后他想到了用一种表
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as a kind of a table of statistics of people living in different neighborhoods,
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居住在不同街道的人的统计表,
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people who hadn't, you know, percentages of people who hadn't,
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没有喝的人,你知道的,没有喝的人的百分比,
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but eventually he hit upon the idea
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但是最后,他偶然发现了这个想法
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that what he needed was something that you could see.
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那就是他所需要的是你可以看的。
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Something that would take in a sense a higher-level view
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从某种意义上可以在更高水平上看到
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of all this activity that had been happening in the neighborhood.
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在这个居民区到底发生了什么。
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And so he created this map,
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然后他创造了这个地图,
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which basically ended up representing all the deaths in the neighborhoods
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这个地图基本上显示了在这个地区所有的死亡人数。
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as black bars at each address.
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用黑色的条杠,在每一个地址上。
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And you can see in this map, the pump right at the center of it
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然后在这个地图你可以看到,这个水泵正好在地图的中间
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and you can see that one of the residences down the way
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而且,你还可以看到这下面的一个住处
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had about 15 people dead.
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有15人死亡。
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And the map is actually a little bit bigger.
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这个地图实际上比我给你们看的稍微大些。
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As you get further and further away from the pump,
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随着你不断的远离这个水泵,
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the deaths begin to grow less and less frequent.
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死亡人数开始逐渐变得越来越少。
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And so you can see this something poisonous
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因此你可以看到这种有毒东西
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emanating out of this pump that you could see in a glance.
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污染了这个你可以很容易看到的水泵。
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And so, with the help of this map,
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因此,在这个地图的帮助下,
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and with the help of more evangelizing
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在这个更像传福音的帮助下
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that he did over the next few years
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他在接下来的几年里做的研究
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and that Whitehead did, eventually, actually,
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还有白石做的,最后,事实上
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the authorities slowly started to come around.
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政府慢慢的开始接受。
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It took much longer than sometimes we like to think in this story,
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这个过程比我们通常以为对这类事情该花的时间要长很多,
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but by 1866, when the next big cholera outbreak came to London,
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但是到1866年,当下一个大型的霍乱在伦敦爆发的时候
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the authorities had been convinced -- in part because of this story,
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政府确信了——部分是因为这个故事,
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in part because of this map -- that in fact the water was the problem.
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另一部分是因为这个地图——事实上水是问题的存在。
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And they had already started building the sewers in London,
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他们已经开始在伦敦建立下水道,
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and they immediately went to this outbreak
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而且立刻
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and they told everybody to start boiling their water.
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告诉了每一个人开始把水烧开。
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And that was the last time that London has seen a cholera outbreak since.
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从那以后,那是伦敦最后的一次霍乱爆发。
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So, part of this story, I think -- well, it's a terrifying story,
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因此,这个故事的一部份,我认为——当然它是一个非常可怕的故事,
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it's a very dark story and it's a story
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它是一个非常黑暗的故事,也是一个
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that continues on in many of the developing cities of the world.
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不停发生在世界上很多发展城市的故事。
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It's also a story really that is fundamentally optimistic,
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这也是一个从根本上很乐观的故事,
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which is to say that it's possible to solve these problems
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也就是说解决那些问题是可能的,
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if we listen to reason, if we listen to the kind of wisdom of these kinds of maps,
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如果我们听信来由,如果我们听信那些地图的贤明之处,
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if we listen to people like Snow and Whitehead,
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如果我听信像斯洛和白石一样的人,
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if we listen to the locals who understand
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如果我们听信那些当地的懂得
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what's going on in these kinds of situations.
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在那样的情形下发生着什么的人。
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And what it ended up doing is making the idea
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最后这个故事引发了一个概念,
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of large-scale metropolitan living a sustainable one.
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就是大型都市生活应该是可持续发展的。
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When people were looking at 10 percent of their neighborhoods dying
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当人们看着十分之一他们的邻居上的人在
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in the space of seven days,
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7天的时间里死去的时候,
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there was a widespread consensus that this couldn't go on,
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有一个广泛的共识,那就是,这不能继续下去,
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that people weren't meant to live in cities of 2.5 million people.
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人们不应该生活在有两百五十万人口的城市里。
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But because of what Snow did, because of this map,
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但是,因为斯洛所做的,因为这张地图,
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because of the whole series of reforms
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因为所有这一系列的革命
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that happened in the wake of this map,
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发生在这个地图背后的,
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we now take for granted that cities have 10 million people,
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我们现在认为拥有100万的城市很理所当然。
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cities like this one are in fact sustainable things.
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像这样的城市实际上是持续发展的。
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We don't worry that New York City is going to collapse in on itself
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我们不担心纽约会自己崩溃
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quite the way that, you know, Rome did,
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以那种方式,你知道的,就像罗马,
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and be 10 percent of its size in 100 years or 200 years.
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在100年或200年里,成为它原有的大小的十分之一。
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And so that in a way is the ultimate legacy of this map.
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这个概念在某种程度上成为这个地图的根本遗产。
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It's a map of deaths that ended up creating a whole new way of life,
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它是一个创造了一种全新的生活方式的死亡地图,
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the life that we're enjoying here today. Thank you very much.
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我们正在享受的生活方式,非常感谢。
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