A new way to study the brain's invisible secrets | Ed Boyden

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翻译人员: Jin Wu 校对人员: Tianyu Qiao
00:12
Hello, everybody.
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大家好
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I brought with me today a baby diaper.
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今天我带来了婴儿纸尿布
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You'll see why in a second.
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等一下,你们就知道为什么了
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Baby diapers have interesting properties.
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婴儿纸尿布有些很有趣的特性
00:22
They can swell enormously when you add water to them,
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比如加水会膨胀
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an experiment done by millions of kids every day.
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每天有数百万的小孩在做这个实验
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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But the reason why
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但尿布会膨胀的原因
00:30
is that they're designed in a very clever way.
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是源于它们的巧妙设计
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They're made out of a thing called a swellable material.
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它们是用可膨胀的材料制成
00:35
It's a special kind of material that, when you add water,
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如果把水加到这种特殊材料中
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it will swell up enormously,
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它就会疯狂地膨胀
体积约胀到1000倍
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maybe a thousand times in volume.
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00:42
And this is a very useful, industrial kind of polymer.
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这是个非常有用的工业类聚合物
00:45
But what we're trying to do in my group at MIT
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我在麻省理工学院的研究团队
00:48
is to figure out if we can do something similar to the brain.
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想要尝试用类似的方法让大脑膨胀
00:51
Can we make it bigger,
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试试我们能否把人脑胀大
00:52
big enough that you can peer inside
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大到可以让人窥视它的内部
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and see all the tiny building blocks, the biomolecules,
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看里面的小组件和生物分子
看它们在三度空间的组合方式
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how they're organized in three dimensions,
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the structure, the ground truth structure of the brain, if you will?
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看大脑的结构和里面的实况
01:02
If we could get that,
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如果办得到
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maybe we could have a better understanding of how the brain is organized
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也许我们能更理解人脑的组织
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to yield thoughts and emotions
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理解它如何产生思想和情感
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and actions and sensations.
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行动和感觉
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Maybe we could try to pinpoint the exact changes in the brain
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或许我们可以知道究竟是什么产生了变化
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that result in diseases,
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导致大脑发生病变
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diseases like Alzheimer's and epilepsy and Parkinson's,
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像是老年痴呆症、癫痫和帕金森氏症这些疾病
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for which there are few treatments, much less cures,
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这些疾病只有少数相应疗法,极少人可以被治愈
我们往往不知道这些疾病的原因或者起源
01:22
and for which, very often, we don't know the cause or the origins
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01:25
and what's really causing them to occur.
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以及是什么引发了疾病
01:28
Now, our group at MIT
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我们在麻省理工学院的研究小组
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is trying to take a different point of view
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正尝试采取不同的观点
这些观点有别于过往百年研究神经科学的方法
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from the way neuroscience has been done over the last hundred years.
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01:36
We're designers. We're inventors.
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我们既是设计师,又是发明家
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We're trying to figure out how to build technologies
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我们正在尝试怎样发明出新的科技
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that let us look at and repair the brain.
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能让我们审视和修复大脑
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And the reason is,
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这么做的原因是
大脑的复杂程度令人难以置信
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the brain is incredibly, incredibly complicated.
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01:47
So what we've learned over the first century of neuroscience
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回望脑神经科学研究的第一个百年,我们得知了
01:50
is that the brain is a very complicated network,
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大脑是个很复杂的网络
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made out of very specialized cells called neurons
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由称做神经元的特殊细胞
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with very complex geometries,
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以复杂的几何形状连结而成
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and electrical currents will flow through these complexly shaped neurons.
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电流可以通过这些形状复杂的神经元
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Furthermore, neurons are connected in networks.
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此外,神经元被连接在网络中
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They're connected by little junctions called synapses that exchange chemicals
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它们通过被称为突触的微小连接口来交换化学物质
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and allow the neurons to talk to each other.
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让神经元彼此间交流讯息
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The density of the brain is incredible.
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大脑有着不可思议的高密度
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In a cubic millimeter of your brain,
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在每一立方毫米的大脑中
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there are about 100,000 of these neurons
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约有十万个神经元
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and maybe a billion of those connections.
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可能有十亿个连接
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But it's worse.
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怎么可能进行研究
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So, if you could zoom in to a neuron,
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如果你能拉近神经元放大看
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and, of course, this is just our artist's rendition of it.
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当然,你们看到的这个只是我们的艺术家做的图像
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What you would see are thousands and thousands of kinds of biomolecules,
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你会看到成千上万种的生物分子
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little nanoscale machines organized in complex, 3D patterns,
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这些立体3D、纳米级的结构共同作用
产生电脉冲
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and together they mediate those electrical pulses,
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those chemical exchanges that allow neurons to work together
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并交换化学物质,使神经元相互作用
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to generate things like thoughts and feelings and so forth.
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以产生想法、感觉等等
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Now, we don't know how the neurons in the brain are organized
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我们不知道大脑中的神经元
是如何形成网络系统的
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to form networks,
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and we don't know how the biomolecules are organized
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我们也不知道生物分子
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within neurons
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是如何在神经元中
形成这复杂有序的机制的
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to form these complex, organized machines.
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If we really want to understand this,
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如果我们真想理解这些问题
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we're going to need new technologies.
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就必须有新的技术
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But if we could get such maps,
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如果我们可以做出图像
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if we could look at the organization of molecules and neurons
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让我们看得到分子和神经元的构造
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and neurons and networks,
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和神经元网络系统
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maybe we could really understand how the brain conducts information
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也许我们能真正了解大脑是如何传送
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from sensory regions,
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来自感官区的信号
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mixes it with emotion and feeling,
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从而混合入情绪和情感
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and generates our decisions and actions.
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以产生决策和行动
也许我们可以确切查明
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Maybe we could pinpoint the exact set of molecular changes that occur
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in a brain disorder.
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病变大脑中产生变化的分子
一旦我们弄清楚分子如何改变
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And once we know how those molecules have changed,
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不论是数目增加或是型态改变
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whether they've increased in number or changed in pattern,
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we could use those as targets for new drugs,
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我们可以把这些分子用来开发新药
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for new ways of delivering energy into the brain
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用来发明新的把能量传送到大脑的方式
帮助受脑疾折磨的患者
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in order to repair the brain computations that are afflicted
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in patients who suffer from brain disorders.
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修复它们脑中受损的地方
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We've all seen lots of different technologies over the last century
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我们已经见证到,上个世纪有许多技术
都尝试要解決这个问题
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to try to confront this.
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I think we've all seen brain scans
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我们都见过核磁共振成像仪
被用来扫描脑部
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taken using MRI machines.
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These, of course, have the great power that they are noninvasive,
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当然,这些仪器有不具侵入性
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they can be used on living human subjects.
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所以可用于活体研究
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But also, they're spatially crude.
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但是它们的成像却很粗糙
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Each of these blobs that you see, or voxels, as they're called,
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你可以看到的这些黄色块状物,或者立体像素
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can contain millions and millions of neurons.
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可能包含有数以百万计的神经元
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So it's not at the level of resolution
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这样的分辨率
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where it can pinpoint the molecular changes that occur
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仍不足以查明是哪些分子发生了变化
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or the changes in the wiring of these networks
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或哪些连接有了变化
正是这些使我们成为有意识的强大的生物
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that contributes to our ability to be conscious and powerful beings.
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At the other extreme, you have microscopes.
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另一个极端的仪器是显微镜
显微镜利用光源来观察微小的东西
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Microscopes, of course, will use light to look at little tiny things.
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For centuries, they've been used to look at things like bacteria.
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数百年来被用以观察像细菌这样的小东西
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For neuroscience,
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就神经科学来说
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microscopes are actually how neurons were discovered in the first place,
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我们首次使用显微镜发现神经元
大约是在130年前
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about 130 years ago.
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But light is fundamentally limited.
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但"光"有极大的局限性
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You can't see individual molecules with a regular old microscope.
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用普通的旧式光学显微镜人们无法看到单个分子
看不到这些微小的连接
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You can't look at these tiny connections.
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So if we want to make our ability to see the brain more powerful,
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所以,如果我们要用更强而有力的方法
来观察大脑的结构
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to get down to the ground truth structure,
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we're going to need to have even better technologies.
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我们需有更好的技术
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My group, a couple years ago, started thinking:
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几年前,我的研究小组开始思考
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Why don't we do the opposite?
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何不反向操作呢
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If it's so darn complicated to zoom in to the brain,
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如果想试着拉近距离去观察大脑这么费劲
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why can't we make the brain bigger?
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我们为什么不把大脑变大呢
开始这个项目的是我组里的两个研究生
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It initially started
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with two grad students in my group, Fei Chen and Paul Tillberg.
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Fei Chen和Paul Tillberg
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Now many others in my group are helping with this process.
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现在有更多人加入进来帮着做
我们决定要找出方法,尝试利用聚合物
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We decided to try to figure out if we could take polymers,
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like the stuff in the baby diaper,
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就是婴儿纸尿裤中的那个材料
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and install it physically within the brain.
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把它放在大脑中
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If we could do it just right, and you add water,
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如果做得恰到好处,再加入水
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you can potentially blow the brain up
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就可能把大脑放大到
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to where you could distinguish those tiny biomolecules from each other.
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足以把小分子个别地分辨出来的程度
这样你就可以看到脑中那些(神经元)连结的图像
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You would see those connections and get maps of the brain.
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This could potentially be quite dramatic.
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这相当激励人心
我今天准备向各位演示一下
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We brought a little demo here.
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We got some purified baby diaper material.
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这有一些婴儿纸尿裤的原料
在网上直接买这个
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It's much easier just to buy it off the Internet
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than to extract the few grains that actually occur in these diapers.
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比从纸尿布里提取少数原料要容易得多
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I'm going to put just one teaspoon here
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我只放入一茶匙的
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of this purified polymer.
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精致聚合物
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And here we have some water.
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然后加入一些水
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What we're going to do
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接下来要做的
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is see if this teaspoon of the baby diaper material
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是看看这一茶匙的聚合物会不会
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can increase in size.
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膨胀开来
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You're going to see it increase in volume by about a thousandfold
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现在,各位可以亲眼看到
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before your very eyes.
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它大约会膨胀一千倍
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I could pour much more of this in there,
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我可以继续加水
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but I think you've got the idea
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但大家肯定已经知道会发生什么了
这是一种非常有意思的分子
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that this is a very, very interesting molecule,
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and if can use it in the right way,
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如果使用得当
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we might be able to really zoom in on the brain
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我们就可以观察到
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in a way that you can't do with past technologies.
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以前无法观察到的大脑细节
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OK. So a little bit of chemistry now.
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好了,讲化学时间到
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What's going on in the baby diaper polymer?
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纸尿裤里的聚合物发生了什么呢
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If you could zoom in,
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如果你能拉近放大来看
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it might look something like what you see on the screen.
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可能就像你现在在屏幕上看到的
这个聚合物正是由原子排成的众多细长的链条组成
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Polymers are chains of atoms arranged in long, thin lines.
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The chains are very tiny,
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这些链条非常微小
大约是一个生物分子的宽度
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about the width of a biomolecule,
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and these polymers are really dense.
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而且这些聚合物非常密集
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They're separated by distances
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它们之间的距离
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that are around the size of a biomolecule.
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大约是一个生物分子的大小
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This is very good
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这非常好
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because we could potentially move everything apart in the brain.
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因为我们就可能把大脑每一部分都分解开
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If we add water, what will happen is,
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如果再加入水
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this swellable material is going to absorb the water,
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这个会膨胀的物质会吸收水分
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the polymer chains will move apart from each other,
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聚合物链条彼此间的距离就会拉远
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and the entire material is going to become bigger.
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整个体积就会变得更大
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And because these chains are so tiny
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由于这些链条是如此的渺小
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and spaced by biomolecular distances,
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而且原本的间距只有一个生物分子那么一丁点大
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we could potentially blow up the brain
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所以我们可能令让大脑膨胀
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and make it big enough to see.
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大到足以被观察
需要解决的一点是
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Here's the mystery, then:
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07:01
How do we actually make these polymer chains inside the brain
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我们要如何把聚合物链置入大脑中
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so we can move all the biomolecules apart?
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让我们得以拉开生物分子的间距呢
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If we could do that,
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如果做得到
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maybe we could get ground truth maps of the brain.
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或许我们就能得到大脑图的实况
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We could look at the wiring.
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观察到大脑的连接系统
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We can peer inside and see the molecules within.
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及里面的分子状况
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To explain this, we made some animations
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我们准备了一个动画视频来解释这一点
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where we actually look at, in these artist renderings,
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在这个艺术家的作品中,我们可以看到
生物分子的样貌和我们如何把它们分开的情况
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what biomolecules might look like and how we might separate them.
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Step one: what we'd have to do, first of all,
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步骤一:首先我们要做的是
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is attach every biomolecule, shown in brown here,
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在每一个棕色的生物分子上
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to a little anchor, a little handle.
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粘上一个小锚,小把手
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We need to pull the molecules of the brain apart from each other,
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想要把大脑中分子之间的距离拉远
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and to do that, we need to have a little handle
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我们需要利用这些小把手
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that allows those polymers to bind to them
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让聚合物和分子连接起来
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and to exert their force.
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因此让聚合物产生效应
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Now, if you just take baby diaper polymer and dump it on the brain,
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如果只把尿布中的聚合物直接倒在大脑上
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obviously, it's going to sit there on top.
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很显然,它们就只会堆在上面而已
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So we need to find a way to make the polymers inside.
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因此,我们需要找个方法让聚合物进到大脑里面去
在研究过程中我们特别幸运
07:51
And this is where we're really lucky.
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It turns out, you can get the building blocks,
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发现我们可以利用一些建筑块
一种被叫做"单体"的东西
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monomers, as they're called,
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and if you let them go into the brain
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如果把它们放到大脑里面
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and then trigger the chemical reactions,
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它们就会触发化学反应
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you can get them to form those long chains,
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然后在大脑组织里
形成细长的链条
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right there inside the brain tissue.
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They're going to wind their way around biomolecules
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这些链条会缠绕住生物分子
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and between biomolecules,
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也会占住生物分子间的空隙
08:08
forming those complex webs
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形成复杂的网络
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that will allow you, eventually, to pull apart the molecules
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最终,这可以使
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from each other.
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大脑中的分子被拉开
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And every time one of those little handles is around,
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在有小把手的地方
08:17
the polymer will bind to the handle, and that's exactly what we need
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聚合物就会粘住这些把手
正好可以成为拉开分子的施力点
08:21
in order to pull the molecules apart from each other.
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08:23
All right, the moment of truth.
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好吧,讲到关键时刻
08:25
We have to treat this specimen
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我们得先用化学物质处理样本
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with a chemical to kind of loosen up all the molecules from each other,
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让分子彼此分散开
然后加水
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and then, when we add water,
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that swellable material is going to start absorbing the water,
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这个会膨胀的材料开始吸收水分
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the polymer chains will move apart,
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聚合物链条会移动开来
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but now, the biomolecules will come along for the ride.
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这一次,生物分子也会跟随着一起移动
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And much like drawing a picture on a balloon,
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就像一个被画了图画的气球
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and then you blow up the balloon,
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如果被吹大
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the image is the same,
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气球上的画还是同一幅画
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but the ink particles have moved away from each other.
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但是上面的颜色分子间的距离被拉大了
这正是我们所做的,不过是在三维空间里
08:48
And that's what we've been able to do now, but in three dimensions.
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There's one last trick.
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还有最后一个点
08:53
As you can see here,
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如你所见
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we've color-coded all the biomolecules brown.
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我们把所有的生物分子都标成棕色
08:56
That's because they all kind of look the same.
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这是因为他们看起来都差不多是一样的
生物分子由相同的原子组成
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Biomolecules are made out of the same atoms,
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but just in different orders.
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只是顺序有差异
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So we need one last thing
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最后,我们还要做一件事
来把他们辨别出来
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in order to make them visible.
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We have to bring in little tags,
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我们需要利用发光的染料
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with glowing dyes that will distinguish them.
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作为区分他们的标示
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So one kind of biomolecule might get a blue color.
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所以某一种生物分子可能会被标成蓝色
而另一种会被标成红色
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Another kind of biomolecule might get a red color.
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And so forth.
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等等
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And that's the final step.
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这就是最后一步
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Now we can look at something like a brain
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如此,我们就可以观察到大脑
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and look at the individual molecules,
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和一个个不同的分子
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because we've moved them far apart enough from each other
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因为我们已经把分子拉得足够开
09:26
that we can tell them apart.
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可以对它们进行分辨
09:27
So the hope here is that we can make the invisible visible.
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我们愿望是把不可见的变成可见的
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We can turn things that might seem small and obscure
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把小而模糊的东西放大
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and blow them up
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并且不停地放大
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until they're like constellations of information about life.
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直到它们看起来像是生命信息的星座图
09:37
Here's an actual video of what it might look like.
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这个视频正可以展现这个过程
09:40
We have here a little brain in a dish --
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碟里放着一個小小的脑
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a little piece of a brain, actually.
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实际上是一片脑标本的切片
09:44
We've infused the polymer in,
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我们已在里面注入聚合物
09:45
and now we're adding water.
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现在要加水
09:47
What you'll see is that, right before your eyes --
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你们现在看到的
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this video is sped up about sixtyfold --
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是以加快了60倍速度放映的视频
09:51
this little piece of brain tissue is going to grow.
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这小片脑组织将会胀大
09:54
It can increase by a hundredfold or even more in volume.
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它的体积将会胀成百倍或更大
09:57
And the cool part is, because those polymers are so tiny,
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最牛的是,因为聚合物是如此渺小
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we're separating biomolecules evenly from each other.
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我们能均匀地分开这些生物分子
10:03
It's a smooth expansion.
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这个过程会缓慢有序地进行
10:04
We're not losing the configuration of the information.
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而且信息的型态不会失真
10:07
We're just making it easier to see.
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我们只是把它变得更容易被观察
10:11
So now we can take actual brain circuitry --
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现在我们可以取一个真实的大脑神经组织
10:13
here's a piece of the brain involved with, for example, memory --
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例如这片与记忆有关的部分
10:16
and we can zoom in.
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拉近放大后
10:17
We can start to actually look at how circuits are configured.
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就可以看到实际的神经电路构造
10:20
Maybe someday we could read out a memory.
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也许有一天我们能读出一段记忆
10:22
Maybe we could actually look at how circuits are configured
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也许我们能看到大脑在处理情绪的过程中
10:25
to process emotions,
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脑神经的回路状态
10:26
how the actual wiring of our brain is organized
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以及脑内的神经是如何连结的
10:29
in order to make us who we are.
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正是这些决定了人与人思想之间的区别
10:32
And of course, we can pinpoint, hopefully,
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当然我们也更希望
10:34
the actual problems in the brain at a molecular level.
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能在脑分子层面上分析出脑部病变的原因
10:37
What if we could actually look into cells in the brain
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试想,假如我们真的深入到大脑细胞里
10:40
and figure out, wow, here are the 17 molecules that have altered
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发现原来大脑组织中的有17个分子发生了病变
10:43
in this brain tissue that has been undergoing epilepsy
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所以病人患了癫痫
10:46
or changing in Parkinson's disease
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或者帕金森氏综合症
10:48
or otherwise being altered?
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以及其它疾病,那就太好了
如果我们能有系统地把这些变异列表
10:50
If we get that systematic list of things that are going wrong,
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这就会变成我们治疗的目标
10:53
those become our therapeutic targets.
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10:55
We can build drugs that bind those.
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我们可以针对那些目标来制药
或许我们能集中精力研究不同的大脑部位
10:57
We can maybe aim energy at different parts of the brain
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10:59
in order to help people with Parkinson's or epilepsy
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以帮助世界各地
11:02
or other conditions that affect over a billion people
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患有帕金森症、癫痫病
11:04
around the world.
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或其他病症的十亿人口
11:07
Now, something interesting has been happening.
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有一种有意思的现象正在发生
11:09
It turns out that throughout biomedicine,
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原来,这个方法对整个生物医药界的研究
11:12
there are other problems that expansion might help with.
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也许都能帮得上忙
11:14
This is an actual biopsy from a human breast cancer patient.
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这是来自一个乳腺癌患者的活体标本
11:18
It turns out that if you look at cancers,
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实际上,癌症
11:20
if you look at the immune system,
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免疫系统
11:22
if you look at aging, if you look at development --
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老化,生长
11:24
all these processes are involving large-scale biological systems.
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所有这些过程都与大规模的生物系统有关
11:29
But of course, the problems begin with those little nanoscale molecules,
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当然,问题是从纳米级的分子开始的
11:33
the machines that make the cells and the organs in our body tick.
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这些分子正是引发细胞和器官活动的机器
11:37
So what we're trying to do now is to figure out
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我们目前正在试着理清
11:39
if we can actually use this technology to map the building blocks of life
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是否真的能用这个技术描绘出
各式各样疾病中基础生命结构组成的脉络
11:43
in a wide variety of diseases.
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11:44
Can we actually pinpoint the molecular changes in a tumor
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我们能否精确地看到肿瘤的分子变化
11:47
so that we can actually go after it in a smart way
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从而更有效地应对
并将药物直接传送到我们想要的位置内呢
11:50
and deliver drugs that might wipe out exactly the cells that we want to?
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要知道,很多药物的风险非常高
11:54
You know, a lot of medicine is very high risk.
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11:56
Sometimes, it's even guesswork.
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有的药物并未被确定真正有效
11:58
My hope is we can actually turn what might be a high-risk moon shot
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我希望我们不只以高风险的登月思维做事
12:02
into something that's more reliable.
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而是发现更可靠的方式
12:04
If you think about the original moon shot,
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如果仔细想想我们的登月计划
12:06
where they actually landed on the moon,
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宇航员登陆月球的壮举
12:08
it was based on solid science.
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是基于扎实的科学研究的
12:09
We understood gravity;
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我们通晓重力
12:11
we understood aerodynamics.
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通晓空气动力学
12:12
We knew how to build rockets.
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知道如何建造火箭
12:14
The science risk was under control.
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科学的风险在我们的掌控之中
12:16
It was still a great, great feat of engineering.
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至今,登月仍是个伟大的工程壮举
12:19
But in medicine, we don't necessarily have all the laws.
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但在医学上,我们未必有定律可循
我们未必能研究出类似重力
12:22
Do we have all the laws that are analogous to gravity,
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12:25
that are analogous to aerodynamics?
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和类似空气动力学的所有定律
12:27
I would argue that with technologies
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我认为,以我今天所谈论的技术
12:29
like the kinds I'm talking about today,
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也许某天我们真的能够
12:31
maybe we can actually derive those.
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导出那些定律来
我们能描绘和测绘生命系统的模型
12:33
We can map the patterns that occur in living systems,
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12:35
and figure out how to overcome the diseases that plague us.
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找出方法来克服困扰我们的疾病
12:41
You know, my wife and I have two young kids,
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我妻子和我有两个年幼的孩子
12:43
and one of my hopes as a bioengineer is to make life better for them
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身为一个生物工程学家,我有个心愿是
12:46
than it currently is for us.
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希望孩子们未来的生活能比目前我们的更美好
12:48
And my hope is, if we can turn biology and medicine
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我希望我们能把生物学和医学的研究
12:52
from these high-risk endeavors that are governed by chance and luck,
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从偶然和运气支配又高风险的努力
12:56
and make them things that we win by skill and hard work,
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转向以技艺和勤奋支配却真正有效的工作
13:00
then that would be a great advance.
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那么这将是一个巨大的进步
13:02
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢
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(Applause)
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