Lessons from the longest study on human development | Helen Pearson

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翻译人员: chunhua zhang 校对人员: Amy H. Fann
00:13
Today I want to confess something to you,
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今天我想跟你们坦白一些事情,
00:16
but first of all I'm going to ask you a couple of questions.
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但是首先我将要问你们一些问题。
00:19
How many people here have children?
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在座的有多少已经有小孩了?
00:23
And how many of you are confident
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你们中又有多少可以自信地说
00:25
that you know how to bring up your children
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你知道如何完全正确地
00:27
in exactly the right way?
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养育你的小孩?
00:28
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
00:31
OK, I don't see too many hands going up on that second one,
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好的,我看第二个问题 没有多少人举手,
00:35
and that's my confession, too.
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而这也是我要坦白的。
00:36
I've got three boys;
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我有三个儿子,
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they're three, nine and 12.
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他们分别是3岁、9岁和12岁。
00:39
And like you, and like most parents,
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就像你,就像大多数父母一样,
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the honest truth is I have pretty much no idea what I'm doing.
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老实说我真的不知道我在做什么。
00:45
I want them to be happy and healthy in their lives,
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我希望他们生活得健康、快乐
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but I don't know what I'm supposed to do
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但是我不知道我应该怎么做
00:49
to make sure they are happy and healthy.
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才能确保他们健康快乐。
00:51
There's so many books offering all kinds of conflicting advice,
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市面上有很多提供 各种互相矛盾的建议的书籍,
00:54
it can be really overwhelming.
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真的是令人不知所措。
00:56
So I've spent most of their lives just making it up as I go along.
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所以大多数时间 我都是边摸索边抚养他们的。
01:00
However, something changed me a few years ago,
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然而,几年前的一些事改变了我,
01:03
when I came across a little secret that we have in Britain.
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那时我无意间发现了 我们英国的一个小秘密。
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It's helped me become more confident about how I bring up my own children,
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它使我对于如何养育小孩 有了更多的自信,
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and it's revealed a lot about how we as a society can help all children.
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它还揭露了作为一个社会整体, 我们该如何帮助所有的小孩。
01:14
I want to share that secret with you today.
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今天我想跟你们分享这个秘密。
01:17
For the last 70 years,
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在过去70年里,
01:19
scientists in Britain have been following thousands of children through their lives
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英国科学家跟踪调查了 成千上万小孩子的一生
01:24
as part of an incredible scientific study.
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作为一项惊人的科学研究的一部分。
01:27
There's nothing quite like it anywhere else in the world.
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这世上没有另外一件 像这样的事情了。
01:30
Collecting information on thousands of children
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收集成千上万的小孩子的信息
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is a really powerful thing to do,
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真的是一件很厉害的事,
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because it means we can compare the ones who say,
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因为这意味着我们可以将那些
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do well at school or end up healthy or happy or wealthy as adults,
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在学校表现好或者 成年后变得健康、快乐或富有的小孩
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and the ones who struggle much more,
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跟那些苦苦挣扎的小孩进行对比,
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and then we can sift through all the information we've collected
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然后从收集到的信息中进行筛选
01:45
and try to work out why their lives turned out different.
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试着去找出为什么 他们的生活会变得大不相同。
01:48
This British study -- it's actually a kind of crazy story.
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这一项英国的研究—— 事实上是一个疯狂的故事。
01:51
So it all starts back in 1946,
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它最初开始于1946年,
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just a few months after the end of the war,
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也就在二战结束后的几个月
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when scientists wanted to know
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当时科学家想要知道
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what it was like for a woman to have a baby at the time.
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在当时一个妇女 有了小孩会是怎样的。
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They carried out this huge survey of mothers
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他们对妈妈们进行了这项巨大的调查
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and ended up recording the birth of nearly every baby
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并最终纪录下了 几乎所有在一个星期内
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born in England, Scotland and Wales in one week.
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出生在英格兰、苏格兰和 威尔士的小孩。
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That was nearly 14,000 babies.
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那是将近一万四千个小孩。
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The questions they asked these women
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他们当时问这些妇女的问题
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are very different than the ones we might ask today.
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跟我们今天要问的问题大不相同。
02:16
They sound really old-fashioned now.
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这些问题现在看起来真的很守旧。
02:18
They asked them things like,
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他们问的问题是像这样的:
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"During pregnancy,
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“在怀孕期间
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did you get your full extra ration of a pint of milk a day?"
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你是否每天都得到了 额外配给的一品脱牛奶?”
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"How much did you spend on smocks, corsets,
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“你在罩衫、紧身内衣
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nightdresses, knickers and brassieres?"
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睡衣、短裤以及胸罩上 花了多少钱?”
02:32
And this is my favorite one:
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而我最喜欢的是这一个:
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"Who looked after your husband while you were in bed with this baby?"
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“你跟小孩在床上的时候, 谁照顾你丈夫?”
02:37
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:42
Now, this wartime study actually ended up being so successful
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这项战争时代的研究最终非常成功,
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that scientists did it again.
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科学家后来又重新进行了这项研究。
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They recorded the births of thousands of babies born in 1958
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他们纪录下了成千上万的 出生于1958年的小孩
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and thousands more in 1970.
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并且纪录下了更多出生于 1970年的小孩。
02:52
They did it again in the early 1990s,
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他们在上世纪90年代早期 又做了一次,
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and again at the turn of the millennium.
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然后在千禧年前后又做了一次。
02:57
Altogether, more than 70,000 children have been involved in these studies
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总共有超过七万个小孩 参与到了这项研究中来
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across those five generations.
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横跨了五代人。
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They're called the British birth cohorts,
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他们被称为英国出生组群。
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and scientists have gone back and recorded more information
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科学家每隔几年会重访所有这些人
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on all of these people every few years ever since.
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并收集纪录下更多的信息。
03:10
The amount of information that's now been collected on these people
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从这些人那里收集到的信息总量,
03:14
is just completely mind-boggling.
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是完全不可想像的。
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It includes thousands of paper questionnaires
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它包含了数千份的调查问卷,
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and terabytes' worth of computer data.
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和巨量的电脑数据。
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Scientists have also built up a huge bank of tissue samples,
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科学家还建立了个巨大的标本数据库
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which includes locks of hair, nail clippings, baby teeth and DNA.
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里面存有头发、指甲、 婴儿的牙齿以及DNA。
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They've even collected 9,000 placentas from some of the births,
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他们从一些分娩中 收集了9000个胎盘,
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which are now pickled in plastic buckets in a secure storage warehouse.
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这些胎盘现都储存塑料桶里, 存在个安全的储存室中。
03:38
This whole project has become unique --
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这整个项目是独一无二的——
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so, no other country in the world is tracking generations of children
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这世上没有任何其它国家这么细致地
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in quite this detail.
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对几代小孩进行跟踪调查。
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These are some of the best-studied people on the planet,
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这是一些这个星球上 被研究得最透彻的人,
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and the data has become incredibly valuable for scientists,
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这些数据对科学家来说 有无可估量的价值,
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generating well over 6,000 academic papers and books.
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由此产生了超过6000篇的 学术论文和书籍。
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But today I want to focus on just one finding --
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但是今天, 我要关注的只是其中的一项发现——
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perhaps the most important discovery to come from this remarkable study.
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也许是这个伟大研究里最重要的 发现,
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And it's also the one that spoke to me personally,
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它对于我个人来说也是挺有意义的,
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because it's about how to use science to do the best for our children.
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因为它是关于如何利用科学 去为孩子们做到最好的。
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So, let's get the bad news out of the way first.
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首先我们来说一说坏消息。
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Perhaps the biggest message from this remarkable study is this:
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也许这个伟大研究发出的 最大的消息就是:
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don't be born into poverty or into disadvantage,
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不要出生在贫穷落后的家庭,
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because if you are,
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因为如果你出身不好,
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you're far more likely to walk a difficult path in life.
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你就更有可能走上一条 艰难的人生道路。
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Many children in this study were born into poor families
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这个研究中的许多小孩 都出生在住在狭窄的房子里,
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or into working-class families that had cramped homes or other problems,
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或者有其它各种问题的 贫困家庭或工人阶级家庭,
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and it's clear now that those disadvantaged children
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现在很清楚的一点是 这些处于劣势的小孩
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have been more likely to struggle on almost every score.
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更有可能在几乎每个方面中挣扎。
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They've been more likely to do worse at school,
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他们可能在学校表现得更糟糕,
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to end up with worse jobs and to earn less money.
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最终找一份更糟糕的工作 并赚更少的钱。
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Now, maybe that sounds really obvious,
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也许这些听起来像是明摆的事,
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but some of the results have been really surprising,
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但是也有一些结果令人很吃惊,
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so children who had a tough start in life
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那些人生的起点就很艰苦的小孩
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are also more likely to end up unhealthy as adults.
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也更可能在成年后 身体没有那么健康。
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They're more likely to be overweight,
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他们更可能超重,
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to have high blood pressure,
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患上高血压,
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and then decades down the line,
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然后几十年后,
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more likely to have a failing memory, poor health and even to die earlier.
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更有可能记忆衰退、身体不佳 甚至死得更早。
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Now, I talked about what happens later,
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我上面谈到的都是一些后期的影响,
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but some of these differences emerge at a really shockingly early age.
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但是有一些差异是在 一个令人震惊的早期就显现出来的。
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In one study,
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在其中的一个研究中,
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children who were growing up in poverty
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贫困家庭长大的小孩
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were almost a year behind the richer children on educational tests,
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在教育测试上要比 富裕家庭的小孩落后一年,
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and that was by the age of just three.
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而这还只是在他们3岁的时候。
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These types of differences have been found again and again across the generations.
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这种的差异在几代人之间 一次又一次的被发现。
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It means that our early circumstances have a profound influence
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这意味着我们早期的生活环境
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on the way that the rest of our lives play out.
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对我们的余生有着更深远的影响。
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And working out why that is
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而找出这其中的原因,
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is one of the most difficult questions that we face today.
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是我们今天所面对的 最困难的问题之一。
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So there we have it.
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我们现在已经有答案了
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The first lesson for successful life, everyone, is this:
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各位,获得成功人生的第一堂课是:
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choose your parents very carefully.
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小心地选择你的父母。
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(Laughter)
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Don't be born into a poor family or into a struggling family.
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(笑声)
不要出生在一个贫困的家庭。
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Now, I'm sure you can see the small problem here.
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我敢肯定你们可以看出 这里的一个小问题,
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We can't choose our parents or how much they earn,
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那就是我们不能选择父母或者 他们的收入水平,
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but this British study has also struck a real note of optimism
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但这项英国的研究通过展现不是所有
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by showing that not everyone who has a disadvantaged start
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出身卑微的人最终都陷入困境
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ends up in difficult circumstances.
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因此带来了希望。
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As you know, many people have a tough start in life,
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正如你所知道的,很多人出身贫苦
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but they end up doing very well on some measure nevertheless,
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然而最终在某些程度上来说 过得也不错,
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and this study starts to explain how.
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而这个研究将要解释如何实现这个。
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So the second lesson is this:
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所以第二课是:
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parents really matter.
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父母真的很重要。
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In this study,
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在这项研究中,
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children who had engaged, interested parents,
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那些拥有负责任、关心自己的 父母的小孩
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ones who had ambition for their future,
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会对未来有野心,
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were more likely to escape from a difficult start.
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并更可能从贫困的生活中逃离出来。
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It seems that parents and what they do are really, really important,
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看来父母以及他们的行为真的真的 很重要,
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especially in the first few years of life.
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尤其是在孩子刚出生到几岁大 这段时间。
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Let me give you an example of that.
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让我来举个例子
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In one study,
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在一个研究中,
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scientists looked at about 17,000 children who were born in 1970.
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科学家调查了大约一万七千个出生在 1970年的小孩。
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They sifted all the mountains of data that they had collected
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他们筛选了收集到的海量信息
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to try to work out
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试图去找出
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what allowed the children who'd had a difficult start in life
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是什么让这些出身贫苦的小孩
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to go on and do well at school nevertheless.
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能够坚持下去并在学校表现出色。
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In other words, which ones beat the odds.
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换句话说, 是什么让他们打败命运的魔咒。
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The data showed that what mattered more than anything else was parents.
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数据显示, 比任何事情都重要的就是父母
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Having engaged, interested parents in those first few years of life
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从小拥有一个负责任、 关心孩子的父母
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was strongly linked to children going on to do well at school later on.
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和孩子之后在学校表现好 有很强的联系。
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In fact, quite small things that parents do
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事实上,父母做的一些很小的事
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are associated with good outcomes for children.
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就能对小孩产生一些好的影响。
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Talking and listening to a child,
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倾听他们说的,
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responding to them warmly,
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亲切地回应他们,
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teaching them their letters and numbers,
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教他们字母和数字,
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taking them on trips and visits.
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带他们去旅行。
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Reading to children every day seems to be really important, too.
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每天为孩子们朗读故事 似乎也很重要。
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So in one study,
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因此在一个研究中,
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children whose parents were reading to them daily when they were five
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那些父母在孩子五岁时 每天为他们朗读故事
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and then showing an interest in their education at the age of 10,
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然后在孩子十岁时关心他们的教育 的小孩们
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were significantly less likely to be in poverty at the age of 30
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在30岁的时候变得贫穷的可能性
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than those whose parents weren't doing those things.
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明显比那些父母没有那样去做的小孩 要少得多。
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Now, there are huge challenges with interpreting this type of science.
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现在,在解释这门科学上 面临很大的挑战。
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These studies show that certain things that parents do
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这些研究表明父母做的某些事情
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are correlated with good outcomes for children,
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跟孩子以后能有一个好的结果是 相关联的,
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but we don't necessarily know those behaviors caused the good outcomes,
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但是我们未必知道是 这些行为导致了好的结果
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or whether some other factor is getting in the way.
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或者是否还有其它的因素 在妨碍这种结果。
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For example, we have to take genes into account,
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例如,我们需要也考虑基因的影响,
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and that's a whole other talk in itself.
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但这个它本身就值得另外一个演讲。
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But scientists working with this British study
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进行这项英国研究的科学家
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are working really hard to get at causes,
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很努力地在寻找原因,
08:01
and this is one study I particularly love.
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而这也是我个人特别喜爱的 一个研究。
08:03
In this one,
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在这个研究中,
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they looked at the bedtime routines of about 10,000 children
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他们观察了大约一万个出生在 千禧年的小孩
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born at the turn of the millennium.
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的睡眠时间规律。
08:09
Were the children going to bed at regular times,
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这些孩子是在固定的时间睡觉,
08:12
or did they go to bed at different times during the week?
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还是在一星期中每天的睡眠时间 都不一样?
08:14
The data showed that those children who were going to bed at different times
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数据显示那些不按规定时间睡觉的 小孩
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were more likely to have behavioral problems,
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更有可能出现行为问题。
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and then those that switched to having regular bedtimes
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然后那些不按时睡觉的小孩 变成按时睡觉后
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often showed an improvement in behavior,
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经常会在行为上有所改善,
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and that was really crucial,
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这真的很重要,
08:27
because it suggested it was the bedtime routines
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因为它表明睡眠时间规律
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that were really helping things get better for those kids.
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真的能够帮助这些小孩表现更好。
08:33
Here's another one to think about.
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这里还有另外一个需要去思考的 研究。
08:34
In this one,
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在这个研究中,
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scientists looked at children who were reading for pleasure.
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科学家观察了那些 为快乐而阅读的孩子
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That means that they picked up a magazine, a picture book, a story book.
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也就是说他们经常拿起一本杂志、 画册、故事书。
08:43
The data showed that children who were reading for pleasure
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数据显示那些5到10岁的
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at the ages of five and 10
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为快乐而阅读的孩子,
08:48
were more likely to go on in school better, on average,
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通常来说更可能在学校 有着更好的表现
08:51
on school tests later in their lives.
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在学校的测试成绩也会更好。
08:53
And not just tests of reading,
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而且不仅仅是阅读方面的测试,
08:55
but tests of spelling and maths as well.
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还包括过拼写以及数学测试。
08:58
This study tried to control for all the confounding factors,
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这个研究试图控制所有的干扰因素,
09:01
so it looked at children who were equally intelligent
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因此它是观察了同等智力水平
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and from the same social-class background,
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并来自相同社会阶级背景的小孩,
09:05
so it seemed as if it was the reading which really helped those children
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所以看起来似乎是阅读 真的帮助了这些孩子
09:09
go on and score better on those school tests later in their lives.
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在以后的学校测试中 取得更好的成绩。
09:13
Now at the start,
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开始的时候,
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I said the first lesson from this study
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我说过从这个研究中学到的第一课
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was not to be born into poverty or into disadvantage,
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是不要出生在一个贫穷落后的家庭。
09:19
because those children tend to follow more difficult paths in their lives.
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因为这些孩子容易走上一条 更艰难的生活道路。
09:22
But then I said that parenting matters,
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但是后来我又说了父母很重要,
09:25
and that good parenting, if you can call it that,
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好的养育方式,如果你觉得这就够了,
09:27
helps children beat the odds
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能帮助孩子打破命运的魔咒
09:28
and overcome some of those early disadvantages.
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并且克服部分早期的劣势。
09:31
So wait,
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等一下,
09:33
does that actually mean, then, that poverty doesn't matter after all?
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这是否就意味着贫穷 只是一件无关紧要的事?
09:38
You could argue it doesn't matter if a child is born poor --
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你可以说它无关紧要, 如果一个小孩出身贫穷——
09:41
as long as their parents are good parents, they're going to do just fine.
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只要他们的父母是称职的, 他们也会过得好。
09:44
I don't believe that's true.
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但是我不相信这种说法。
09:46
This study shows that poverty and parenting matter.
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研究表明贫穷和养育方式都对孩子 影响很大。
09:49
And one study actually put figures on that,
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事实上有一个研究对此进行了 量化对比,
09:51
so it looked at children growing up in persistent poverty
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它观察了那些在长期穷困的家庭 长大的孩子
09:54
and how well they were doing at school.
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以及他们在学校的表现。
09:56
The data showed
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数据表明,
09:57
that even when their parents were doing everything right --
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即便他们的父母正确的做了 每一件事——
10:00
putting them to bed on time
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督促他们按时睡觉
10:01
and reading to them every day and everything else --
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每天给他们朗读等等——
10:04
that only got those children so far.
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也只能帮孩子到这样。
10:06
Good parenting only reduced the educational gap
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好的育儿方式也只能将 富孩子和穷孩子
10:09
between the rich and poor children by about 50 percent.
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之间的教育差距缩小一半。
10:13
Now that means that poverty leaves a really lasting scar,
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那意味着贫穷会留下一个 持续的创伤,
10:17
and it means that if we really want to ensure the success and well-being
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也意味着如果我们真的想要确保 下一代
10:20
of the next generation,
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能够成功并且幸福,
10:22
then tackling child poverty is an incredibly important thing to do.
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那么消除儿童贫困就是一件 非常重要的事情。
10:27
Now, what does all this mean for you and me?
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所有这些对你和我来说 又意味着什么呢?
10:30
Are there lessons here we can all take home and use?
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我们能从这学到什么并为我所用吗?
10:32
As a scientist and a journalist,
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作为一个科学家和记者,
10:34
I like to have some science to inform my parenting ...
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我想用一些科学来报告 我的育儿经验
10:37
and I can tell you that when you're shouting at your kids
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我可以告诉你, 当你对你的孩子大喊着
10:40
to go to bed on time,
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让他们按时睡觉时,
10:41
it really helps to have the scientific literature on your side.
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知道科学数据可以帮助你很多。
10:44
(Laughter)
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10:45
And wouldn't it be great to think
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(笑声)
如果我们只需要跟孩子交谈、 关心他们的未来
10:47
that all we had to do to have happy, successful children
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让他们按时睡觉、给他们书去阅读
10:50
was to talk to them, be interested in their future,
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就能让他们快乐、成功,
10:52
put them to bed on time, and give them a book to read?
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这难道不是想想就让人很高兴的事吗?
10:55
Our job would be done.
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我们的工作完成了。
10:57
Now, as you can imagine,
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正如你能想像得到的,
10:58
the answers aren't quite as simple as that.
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答案不止这么简单。
11:01
For one thing, this study looks at what happens
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首先,这项研究调查了
11:04
to thousands and thousands of children on average,
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成千上万的普通小孩,
11:06
but that doesn't necessarily say what will help my child or your child
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但这未必就能帮助我的或你的小孩,
11:10
or any individual child.
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或任何其他的单个小孩。
11:11
In the end, each of our children is going to walk their own path,
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最终,每个小孩都有自己的路要走,
11:15
and that's partly defined by the genes they inherit
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而那条路部分取决于 他们所继承的基因
11:17
and of course all the experiences they have through their lives,
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当然,还有就是他们生活中的经历,
11:20
including their interactions with us, their parents.
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包括他们与身为父母的我们的互动。
11:23
I will tell you what I did after I learned all this.
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告诉你们,我在知道所有这些后 所做的事。
11:25
It's a bit embarrassing.
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那真的是有点尴尬。
11:27
I realized I was so busy working,
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我意识到我太忙于工作了,
11:30
and ironically,
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而讽刺的是,
11:31
learning and writing about this incredible study of British children,
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在学习和撰写这个关于英国小孩的 伟大研究时,
11:35
that there were days when I hardly even spoke to my own British children.
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有好多天我都难得跟我自己的 英国小孩说话。
11:39
So at home, we introduced talking time,
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所以我们在家里引入了谈话时间,
11:41
which is just 15 minutes at the end of the day
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也就是在每天睡觉前的15分钟里,
11:43
when we talk and listen to the boys.
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我们会跟男孩子们交谈。
11:46
I try better now to ask them what they did today,
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我比以前更努力地问他们 今天做了什么,
11:49
and to show that I value what they do at school.
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并向他们表明我很重视 他们在学校的表现。
11:52
Of course, I make sure they always have a book to read.
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当然,我会确保他们随时 有一本可以阅读的书。
11:55
I tell them I'm ambitious for their future,
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我告诉他们我对他们的未来 充满期望,
11:57
and I think they can be happy and do great things.
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我认为他们能快乐 并做出了不起的事。
12:01
I don't know that any of that will make a difference,
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我不知道我做的这些是否对他们 有影响,
12:04
but I'm pretty confident it won't do them any harm,
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但是我很相信至少不会对他们 造成伤害,
12:07
and it might even do them some good.
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甚至可能对他们有一些帮助。
12:09
Ultimately, if we want happy children,
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最后,如果我们想要孩子们快乐
12:12
all we can do is listen to the science,
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我们所能做的就是听信科学,
12:14
and of course,
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当然,
12:15
listen to our children themselves.
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还有就是聆听孩子们的声音。
12:17
Thank you.
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谢谢。
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