Paul Romer: The world's first charter city?

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翻译人员: Bear Jin 校对人员: Angelia King
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In 2007,
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2007年
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I decided that we needed to reconceptualize
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我觉得我们需要重新定义
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how we thought about economic development.
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我们意识中的经济发展的概念。
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Our new goal should be
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我们新目标应该致力于
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that when every family thinks about where they want to live and work,
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当每个家庭考虑他们想住和工作的地方的时候
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they should be able to choose between
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他们能有至少5个
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at least a handful
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不同的
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of different cities
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可以选择
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that were all competing to attract new residents.
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有竞争力吸引新住户的城市。
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Now we're a long way away from that goal right now.
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对于这个目标我们还有很长的路要走。
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There are billions of people in developing countries
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在发展中国家有几十亿的人
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who don't have even a single city that would be willing to welcome them.
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处于没有一个城市愿意接纳他们的阶段。
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But the amazing thing about cities
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但是城市的惊人之处在于
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is they're worth so much more
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它的利用价值
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than it costs to build them.
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要比建造消耗价值要多的多。
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So we could easily supply the world
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所以我们能很轻松的为世界
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with dozens, maybe hundreds,
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建造几十,或者上百的
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of new cities.
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新城。
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Now this might sound preposterous to you
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你可能觉得这听起来很荒谬
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if you've never thought about new cities.
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如果你从来没有考虑过新城。
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But just substitute apartment building for cities.
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但是这只是替代城市的住宅建筑而已。
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Imagine half the people who wanted to be in apartments already had them;
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想象下半数的想住在公寓的人已经入住了;
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the other half aren't there yet.
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另外半数还没有入住。
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You could try and expand the capacity
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你可以加盖已有的住宅
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by doing additions on all the existing apartments.
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来试着扩大面积。
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But you know what you'd run into
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但是你知道你经手的
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is those apartments and the surrounding areas
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住宅和周边地块
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have rules to avoid discomfort
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是受法律保护保证其舒适性的
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and the distractions of construction.
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和娱乐性的建筑。
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So it's extremely hard to do all of those additions.
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做这些加盖是十分的困难的。
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But you could go out someplace brand new,
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但是你能在未开发的地区
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build a brand new apartment building,
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建设一幢新的大楼,
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as long as the rules there
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就像俗话说的
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were ones that facilitated construction
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重新开始强过
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rather than getting in the way.
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停滞不前。
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So I proposed
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所以我提议
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that governments create new reform zones
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政府划定新的足够容纳
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big enough to hold cities
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城市的地域
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and gave them a name: charter cities.
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并起名为:宪章城市。
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Later I learned that at about this same time,
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大约我了解这些的同时,
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Javier and Octavio
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哈维尔和奥克塔维奥
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were thinking about the challenge of reform
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正在思考在洪都拉斯重新规划的
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in Honduras.
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问题。
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They knew that about 75,000 Hondurans every year
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据说大约每年7万5千洪都拉斯人
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would leave to go to the United States,
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移民到美国
02:00
and they wanted to ask, what could they do
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他们想问,他们能做什么
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to make sure that those people could stay
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来确保能让这些人留下来
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and do the same things in Honduras.
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在洪都拉斯做同样的工作,生活下来。
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At one point, Javier said to Octavio,
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有一次,哈维尔对奥克塔维奥说
02:09
"What if we took some of our empty land --
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“如果我们把我们闲置的土地--
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what if we just gave it to an embassy --
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如果我们把它送给大使馆会怎么样--
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give some to the U.S. embassy; give some to the Canadian embassy --
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一些给美国大使馆;一些给加拿大大使馆--
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and then if people want to go work
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届时如果想在
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under the rules of Canada or under the rules of the United States,
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加拿大或者美国规则下本土找工作的话
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they can go get jobs,
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他们就能找到工作,
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do everything they do on those embassy grounds
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在这些大使馆本土地区做工作
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that they would otherwise have to go to Canada or the U.S. to do?"
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否则就得去加拿大或美国找工作?”
02:29
In the summer of 2009,
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2009年夏天
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Honduras went through a wrenching constitutional crisis.
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洪都拉斯经历了一次铁血的军事政变。
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At the next regularly scheduled election,
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在下一届例行选举中
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Pepe Lobo won in a landslide
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佩佩·洛沃凭借选举演讲
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on a platform that promised reform,
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上许诺改革以及和谈
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but reconciliation as well.
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赢得了压倒性的优势。
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He asked Octavio to be his chief of staff.
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他邀请奥克塔维奥作为他的参谋长。
02:49
Meanwhile, I was getting ready
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同时,我在准备一个
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to give a talk at TEDGlobal.
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TEDGlobal上的演讲。
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Through a process of refinement,
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通过一系列的改良
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trial and error, a lot of user testing,
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试错,大量用户的测试
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I tried to boil this complicated concept of charter city
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我试着把这宪章城市复杂的概念
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down to the bare essentials.
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压缩成最基本的精华。
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The first point was the importance of rules,
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第一点是法令的重要性,
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like those rules that say
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就像法令所说的
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you can't come in and disturb all the existing apartment holders.
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你不能骚扰已经入住的住户一样。
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We pay a lot of attention to new technologies,
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我们关注新的科技
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but it takes technologies and rules to get progress,
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但是新科技需要技术和要求来执行。
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and it's usually the rules that hold us back.
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通常是这些要求拖我们的后腿。
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In the fall of 2010, a friend from Guatemala
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在2010年秋,一个危地马拉的朋友
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sent Octavio a link to the TEDTalk.
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发给奥克塔维奥这个TEDTalk的链接。
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He showed it to Javier.
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他把它展示给哈维尔
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They called me.
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他们打给我电话
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They said, "Let's present this to the leaders of our country."
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说,“让我们把这个展示给我们总统吧。”
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So in December we met in Miami,
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12月我们就在迈阿密
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in a hotel conference room.
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在一个宾馆的会议室碰了面。
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I tried to explain this point
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我试着解释这些城市
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about how valuable cities are,
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的价值所在
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how much more valuable they are than they cost.
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以及相比它的消耗它的价值会有多少。
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And I used this slide
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我用这张幻灯片
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showing how valuable the raw land is
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展示了像纽约这块地区
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in a place like New York City:
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一块未开发地块的价值。
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notice, land that's worth thousands of dollars, in some cases,
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注意,在某些点,地价要
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per square meter.
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每平方米几千美金。
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But it was a fairly abstract discussion,
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但是这是一个大致的抽象的讨论
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and at some point when there was a pause,
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当某些间隙的时候
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Octavio said,
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奥克塔维奥说,
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"Paul, maybe we could watch the TEDTalk."
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“保罗,也许我们可以观看TEDTalk。”
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(Laughing)
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(掌声)
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So the TEDTalk laid out in very simple terms,
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TEDTalk用简单的方式就讲明了
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a charter city is a place
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宪章城市是一个
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where you start with uninhabited land,
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起始于无人居住的地域,
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a charter that specifies the rules that will apply there
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宪章细化了执行的条例
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and then a chance for people to opt in,
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也是人们选择是否入住
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to go live under those rules or not.
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是否生活在这些条例下的一个机会。
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So I was asked by the president of Honduras
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洪都拉斯总统向我提问
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who said that we need to do this project,
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那个表态说我们需要这个项目的人
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this is important,
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这是关键
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this could be the way forward for our country.
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这会是引领我们国家前进的道路。
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I was asked to come to Tegucigalpa
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我被邀请造访特古西加尔巴
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and talk again on January fourth and fifth.
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在1月4日,5日重述此项目。
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So I presented
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我展示了
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another fact-filled lecture
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另外一个包括了这张幻灯片
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that included a slide like this,
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的案例课
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which tried to make the point that, if you want to create a lot of value in a city,
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试着讲述这个观点,如果你想在城市创造巨大价值的话
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it has to be very big.
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它必须也是很巨大的。
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This is a picture of Denver,
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这是丹佛市的照片
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and the outline is the new airport that was built in Denver.
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高亮出的是丹佛新建的机场。
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This airport alone
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单这机场
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covers more than 100 square kilometers.
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就占地超过100平方千米。
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So I was trying to persuade the Hondurans,
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我试着说服洪都拉斯总统
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if you build a new city,
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如果你要建一座新城
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you've got to start with a site that's at least 1,000 square kilometers.
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你就要在至少1000平方千米的区域入手。
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That's more than 250 hundred-thousand acres.
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这要比2500万英亩还大。
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Everybody applauded politely.
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每个人都很有礼貌地鼓着掌。
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The faces in the audience
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观众的表情
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were very serious and attentive.
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都是严肃而警惕的。
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The leader of the congress came up on stage and said,
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大会主席走到台前说
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"Professor Romer, thank you very much for your lecture,
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“罗摩教授,很感谢你的讲课
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but maybe we could watch the TEDTalk.
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但也许我们能看看TEDTalk。
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I've got it here on my laptop."
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我笔记本上现在就有。”
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So I sat down, and they played the TEDTalk.
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于是我坐下,他们则看起了TEDTalk。
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And it got to the essence,
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它同时也抓住了精髓
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which is that a new city could offer new choices for people.
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就是新的城市带给了人们新的选择。
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There would be a choice of a city which you could go to
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这是一个你会前往城市的选择
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which could be in Honduras,
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也许在洪都拉斯
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instead of hundreds of miles away in the North.
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而不是几百公里远的北方。
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And it also involved new choices for leaders.
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它也给了领导者新的选择。
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Because the leaders in the government there in Honduras
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因为洪都拉斯政府的领导
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would need help from partner countries,
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需要友国的帮助
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who could benefit from partner countries
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那些从友国中获得利益
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who help them set up the rules in this charter and the enforcement,
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那些帮助他们设定并实行宪章中的条例
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so everybody can trust
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来让每个人都会相信
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that the charter really will be enforced.
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宪章实际上会得到实行。
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And the insight of President Lobo
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总统洛沃的领悟
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was that that assurance of enforcement
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就是对实行能力的保证
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that I was thinking about
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我认为
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as a way to get the foreign investors to come in and build the city
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作为一个吸引外商投资建造的城市的方法
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could be equally important for all the different parties in Honduras
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应该和洪都拉斯经历了多年
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who had suffered for so many years
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恐惧和怀疑的不同党派
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from fear and distrust.
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一样的重要。
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We went and looked at a site.
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我们实地考察了那块地区。
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This picture's from there.
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这是那里的一张照片。
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It easily could hold a thousand square kilometers.
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这能轻易容纳一千平方千米。
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And shortly thereafter, on January 19th,
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之后不久,1月19日
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they voted in the congress to amend their constitution
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他们在国会中投票修改了宪法
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to have a constitutional provision
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来提供一个法律的支持
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that allows for special development regions.
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来许可特定的发展地区。
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In a country which had just gone through this wrenching crisis,
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在刚经历过政变的这个国家
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the vote in the congress in favor of this constitutional amendment
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国会上赞成宪法修正案的票数
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was 124 to one.
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是124比1。
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All parties, all factions in society, backed this.
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社会上派系,所有党派都支持这修正案。
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To be part of the constitution, you actually have to pass it twice in the congress.
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作为宪法的一部分,你实际需要在国会上通过两次。
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On February 17th they passed it again
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在2月17日他们以114比1
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with another vote of 114 to one.
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再次通过了法案。
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Immediately after that vote,
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立刻在投票之后
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on February 21st to the 24th,
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2月21到24日
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a delegation of about 30 Hondurans
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大约30个人的洪都拉斯代表团
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went to the two places in the world
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来到了世上
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that are most interested in getting into the city building business.
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两个建筑业最感兴趣的两个地方。
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One is South Korea.
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一个是韩国。
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This is a picture of a big, new city center
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这是一张韩国将建成的
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that's being built in South Korea --
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大型的,新市中心--
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bigger than downtown Boston.
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比波士顿商业区还大。
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Everything you see there was built in four years,
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所有你看到的刚建设了4年
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after they spent four years getting the permits.
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但他们得到许可来建设就花费了4年。
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The other place that's very interested in city building is Singapore.
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另外一个吸引建筑业的是新加坡。
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They've actually built two cities already in China
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他们实际上已经在中国建设了两个新城
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and are preparing the third.
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并准备建第三个。
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So if you think about this practically,
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如果你理性地考虑这个的话
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here's where we are.
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这就是我们当下处境。
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They've got a site; they're already thinking about this site for the second city.
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他们有了地块,并已经考虑把它建设成第二城市。
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They're putting in place a legal system
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他们正步入一个法定的程序
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that could allow for managers to come in,
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来允许管理人员介入
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and also an external legal system.
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同时也有个外加的法律系统。
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One country has already volunteered to let its supreme court
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一个国家已经自愿让最高法院
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be the court of final appeal for the new judicial system there.
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为了这新的司法体系而成为最终上诉申请的法院。
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There's designers and builders of cities
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这是对其感兴趣的
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who are very interested.
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城市设计师和建筑师而言。
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They even can bring with them some financing.
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这些甚至能带给他们一些经济支持。
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But the one thing you know they've already solved
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但是有一件你了解的早被解决的事
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is that there's lots of tenants.
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是有很多的佃户。
07:59
There's lots of businesses that would like to locate in the Americas,
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有很多商家意向进驻美国
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especially in a place with a free trade zone,
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特别进驻到自由交易区
08:04
and there's lots of people who'd like to go there.
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也有很多人想去那里。
08:07
Around the world, there's 700 million people
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全世界,有7亿人
08:09
who say they'd like to move permanently someplace else right now.
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想立刻永久的移民到某些其他地方。
08:12
There's a million a year
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每年100万人
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who leave Latin America to go to the United States.
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从拉丁美洲前往美国。
08:16
Many of these are a father
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其中很多是远离
08:18
who has to leave his family behind to go get a job --
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家庭的来寻找工作的父亲--
08:20
sometimes a single mother
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有时是单亲妈妈
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who has to get enough money to even pay for food or clothing.
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来赚钱为了衣食生计。
08:25
Sadly, sometimes there are even children
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可悲的是,有时甚至是孩子
08:27
who are trying to get reunited with their parents
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尝试着为了和很久未见的父母
08:29
that they haven't seen, in some cases, for a decade.
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有些时候,数十年,他们才团聚。
08:34
So what kind of an idea is it
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这是个怎么样的愿景
08:36
to think about building a brand new city in Honduras?
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来考虑在洪都拉斯建立一个新城?
08:38
Or to build a dozen of these,
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或者建立十几个新城
08:40
or a hundred of these, around the world?
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或者全世界建立几百个新城?
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What kind of an idea is it
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这又是个怎么样的愿景
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to think about insisting
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来考虑坚持
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that every family have a choice of several cities
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每个家庭都有数个具有竞争力吸引新住户
08:49
that are competing to attract new residents?
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的城市的选择?
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This is an idea worth spreading.
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这是一个值得传播的观点。
08:55
And my friends from Honduras
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我的洪都拉斯的朋友
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asked me to say thank you, TED.
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让我来说声感谢,TED。
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(Applause)
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