How to change your behavior for the better | Dan Ariely

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Camille Martínez
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Prevodilac: Milenka Okuka Lektor: Ivana Krivokuća
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Hi.
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Zdravo.
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You might have noticed that I have half a beard.
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Verovatno ste primetili da imam bradu do pola lica.
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It's not because I lost a bet.
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Nisam izgubio opkladu.
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Many years ago, I was badly burned.
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Pre mnogo godina, imao sam teške opekotine.
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Most of my body is covered with scars,
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Veći deo mog tela je prekriven ožiljcima,
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including the right side of my face.
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uključujući i desnu stranu mog lica.
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I just don't have hair. That's just how it happened.
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Prosto nemam dlake. Tako se prosto dogodilo.
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It looks symmetrical, but almost.
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Izgleda simetrično, ali jedva.
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Anyway, now that we discussed facial hair,
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Kako god, sad kad smo razgovarali o dlakama na licu,
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let's move to social science.
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pređimo na društvene nauke.
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And in particular, I want us to think about where is the potential for humanity
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A naročito želim da razmislimo o mogućem potencijalu čovečanstva
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and where we are now.
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i o tome gde smo sada.
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And if you think about it, there's a big gap
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A ako razmislite o tome, postoji veliki jaz
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between where we think we could be and where we are,
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između toga gde mislimo da bismo mogli da budemo i gde jesmo
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and it's in all kinds of areas.
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i tako je u svim oblastima.
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So let me ask you:
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Dozvolite da vas upitam:
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How many of you in the last month have eaten more than you think you should?
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koliko vas je u proteklih mesec dana pojelo više nego što mislite da je dobro?
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Just kind of general. OK.
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Samo uopšteno. U redu.
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How many of you in the last month have exercised less than you think you should?
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Koliko vas je u proteklih mesec dana radilo vežbe manje nego što bi trebalo?
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OK, and for how many of you has raising your hands twice
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U redu. A za koliko vas je podizanje ruku dva puta
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been the most exercise you got today?
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najveća fizička aktivnost za danas?
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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How many of you have ever texted while driving?
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Koliko vas je pisalo poruke dok ste vozili?
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OK, we're getting honest. Let's test your honesty.
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U redu. Postajemo iskreni. Testirajmo vašu iskrenost.
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How many people here in the last month
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Koliko ljudi ovde u proteklih mesec dana
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have not always washed your hands when you left the bathroom?
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nije uvek opralo ruke nakon upotrebe kupatila?
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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A little less honest.
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Malo manje iskrenosti.
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By the way, it's interesting how we're willing to admit texting and driving
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Usput, zanimljivo je kako smo voljni da priznamo pisanje poruka tokom vožnje,
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but not washing our hands, that's difficult.
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ali ne i nepranje ruku, to je teško.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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We can go on and on.
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Možemo ovako u beskraj.
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The problem, the topic is that there's lots of things
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Problem, tema je da postoji mnogo toga
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when we know what we could do --
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kada znamo kako bismo mogli da postupimo -
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we could be very, very different, but we're acting in a very different way.
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mogli bismo da budemo veoma drugačiji, ali postupamo veoma drugačije.
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And when we think how do we bridge that gap,
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A kada razmišljamo o tome kako da premostimo jaz,
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the usual answer is, "Just tell people."
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uobičajen odgovor glasi: „Samo recite ljudima.”
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For example, just tell people that texting and driving is dangerous.
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Na primer, samo recite ljudima da je pisanje poruka dok voze opasno.
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Did you know it's dangerous? You should stop doing it.
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Da li znate da je opasno? Nemojte to više da radite.
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You tell people something is dangerous, and they will stop.
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Kažete ljudima da je nešto opasno i oni će da prestanu.
Pisanje poruka dok vozite je jedan primer.
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Texting and driving is one example.
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Another very sad example is that in the US,
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Drugi veoma tužan primer je da u SAD-u
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we spend between seven and eight hundred million dollars a year
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godišnje trošimo između sedam i osam stotina miliona dolara
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on what's called "financial literacy."
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na ono što nazivamo „finansijskom pismenošću”.
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And what do we get as a consequence of that?
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A šta dobijamo kao posledicu?
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There was recently a study that looked at all the research ever to be conducted
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Nedavno je objavljena studija koja je posmatrala sva postojeća istraživanja
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on financial literacy -- what's called a meta-analysis.
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o finansijskoj pismenosti - nešto što se naziva meta-analizom.
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And what they found is that when you tell people,
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A otkrili su da kada kažete ljudima,
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you teach them financial literacy,
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kada ih podučite finansijskoj pismenosti,
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they learn and they remember.
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oni nauče i zapamte.
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But do people execute? Not so much.
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Međutim, da li je upražnjavaju? Ne baš.
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The improvement is about three or four percent
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Napredak je oko tri do četiri procenta
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immediately after the course,
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neposredno po završetku kursa,
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and then it goes down.
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a potom opada.
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And at the end of the day,
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A kad se sve svede,
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the improvement is about 0.1 percent --
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napredak je oko 0,1 procenat -
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not zero, but as humanly close to zero as possible.
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nije nula, ali je najbliže nuli što je ljudski moguće.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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So that's the sad news.
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Ovo su tužne vesti.
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The sad news is, giving information to people
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Tužne vesti su da pružanje informacija ljudima
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is just not a good recipe to change behavior.
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prosto nije dobar recept za izmenu ponašanja.
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What is?
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Šta jeste?
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Well, social science has made lots of strides,
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Pa, društvene nauke su napravile više iskoraka,
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and the basic insight is that if we want to change behavior,
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a osnovni zaključak glasi da, ako želimo da promenimo ponašanje,
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we have to change the environment.
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moramo da promenimo sredinu.
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The right way is not to change people, it's to change the environment.
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Ispravan način nije u izmeni ljudi, već u izmeni sredine.
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And I want to present a very simpleminded model of how to think about it:
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Želim da vam predstavim veoma uprošćen model kako da razmišljate o tome:
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it's to think about behavioral change
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razmišljajmo o promeni ponašanja
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in the same way that we think about sending a rocket to space.
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na isti način na koji razmišljamo o slanju rakete u svemir.
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When we think about sending a rocket to space,
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Kada razmišljamo o slanju rakete u svemir,
važne su dve glavne stvari.
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we want to do two main things.
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The first one is to reduce friction.
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Prva je umanjenje trenja.
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We want to take the rocket and have as little friction as possible
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Želimo da imamo raketu sa najmanjom mogućom količinom trenja
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so it's the most aerodynamic possible.
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kako bi bila najaerodinamičnija.
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And the second thing is we want to load as much fuel as possible,
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A druga stvar je da želimo da utovarimo što je više goriva moguće,
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to give it the most amount of motivation, energy to do its task.
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kako bi imala najveću količinu motivacije, energije da odradi zadatak.
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And behavior change is the same thing.
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A isto je i sa promenom ponašanja.
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So let's first talk about friction.
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Zato prvo razgovarajmo o trenju.
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In this particular case study I'll tell you about,
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U ovoj naročitoj studiji slučaja o kojoj ću da vam govorim
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there's a pharmacy, an online pharmacy.
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imamo apoteku, internet apoteku.
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Imagine you go to your doctor.
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Zamislite da pođete kod izabranog lekara.
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You have a long-term illness,
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Imate dugoročnu bolest,
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your doctor prescribes to you a medication,
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doktor vam prepiše lek,
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you sign up for this online pharmacy
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pretplatite se na internet apoteku
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and you get your medication in the mail every 90 days.
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i lek vam stiže poštom svakih 90 dana.
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Every 90 days, medication, medication, medication.
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Svakih 90 dana, lek, lek, lek.
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And this online pharmacy wants to switch people
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A ova internet apoteka želi da preusmeri ljude
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from branded medication to generic medication.
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sa leka poznatog proizvođača na generički lek.
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So they send people letters, and they say,
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Stoga ljudima šalju pisma u kojima kažu:
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"Please, please, please, switch to generics.
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„Molimo, molimo, molimo vas pređite na generički.
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You will save money, we will save money, your employer will save money."
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Uštedećete novac, mi ćemo uštedeti novac, vaš poslodavac će uštedeti novac.”
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And what do people do?
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I šta će ljudi da urade?
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Nothing.
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Ništa.
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So they try all kinds of things and nothing happens.
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Pokušavaju razne stvari, ali ništa se ne dešava.
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So for one year, they give people an amazing offer.
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Zato na godinu dana nude ljudima izvanrednu ponudu.
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They send people a letter, and they say,
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Šalju ljudima pisma u kojima kažu:
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"If you switch to generics now, it will be free for a whole year."
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„Ako sada pređete na generički lek, biće besplatan godinu dana.”
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Free for a whole year. Amazing!
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Besplatan godinu dana. Sjajno!
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What percentage of people do you think switched?
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Šta mislite, koliki procent ljudi je prešao na novi lek?
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Less than 10 percent.
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Manje od deset procenata.
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At this point, they show up to my office.
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U ovom trenutku su došli u moju kancelariju.
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And they come to complain.
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A došli su da se žale.
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Why did they pick me?
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Zašto su odabrali mene?
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I wrote a couple of papers on the "allure of free."
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Napisao sam nekoliko radova o „čarima besplatnog”.
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In those papers, we showed that if you reduce the price of something
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U tim radovima smo pokazali da, ako umanjite cenu nečega
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for, let's say, 10 cents to one cent, nothing much happens.
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sa, recimo, deset centi na cent, ništa se značajno neće desiti.
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You reduce it from one cent to zero, now people get excited.
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Ako je umanjite sa jednog na nula centi, e, tad su ljudi uzbuđeni.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And they said, "Look, we read these papers on 'free,' we gave 'free.'
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Rekli su: „Čitali smo radove o 'besplatnom', pa smo davali 'besplatno'.
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Not working as we expected.
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Ne deluje kako smo očekivali.
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What's going on?"
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O čemu se radi?”
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I said, "You know, maybe it's a question of friction."
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Rekao sam: „Znate, možda je trenje u pitanju.”
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They said, "What do you mean?"
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Upitali su: „Na šta misliš?"
Rekao sam: „Počeli su sa poznatim proizvođačem.
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I said, "People are starting with branded.
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They can do nothing and end with branded.
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Mogu da ne urade ništa i ostanu sa njim.
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To move to generic, they have to choose generic over branded,
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Kako bi prešli na generički, moraju da odaberu generički naspram brendiranog,
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but they also have to do something.
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ali takođe moraju i da urade nešto.
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They have to return the letter."
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Moraju da odgovore na pismo.”
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So this is what we call a "confounded design."
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Dakle, ovo nazivamo „zbunjujućim dizajnom”.
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Two things are happening at the same time.
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Dve stvari se dešavaju istovremeno.
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It's branded versus generic,
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Brendirani lek naspram generičkog,
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but it's doing nothing versus doing something.
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ali i nedelanje naspram delanja.
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So I said, "Why don't we switch it?
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Upitao sam: „Zašto ga mi ne zamenimo?
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Why don't we send people a letter and say, 'We're switching you to generics.
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Zašto ne pošaljemo pismo ljudima i kažemo: 'Prebacujemo vas na generički.
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You don't need to do anything.
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Ne morate ništa da uradite.
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If you want to stay with branded, please return the letter.'"
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Ako želite da ostanete na brendiranom, odgovorite na pismo.'"
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Right?
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Zar ne?
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What do you think happened?
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Šta mislite, šta se desilo?
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Lawyers, lawyers happened.
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Advokati, advokati su se desili.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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It turns out, this is illegal.
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Ispostavilo se da je ovo nezakonito.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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By the way, for brainstorming and creativity,
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Usput, kod mozganja i kreativnosti,
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doing things that are illegal and immoral, it's fine,
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nezakonito i nemoralno postupanje su sasvim u redu,
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as long as it's just in the brainstorming phase.
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dokle god ostanu u fazi mozganja.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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But this was the purity of the idea,
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Međutim, u ovome je suština ideje:
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because the initial design was the branded had the no-action benefit.
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zato što je u prvobitnom dizajnu brendirani lek imao prednost nedelanja.
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In my illegal, immoral design, generic had the no-action benefit.
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U mom nezakonitom, nemoralnom dizajnu, generički je imao prednost nedelanja.
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But they agreed to give people a T-intersection:
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Međutim, pristali su da pruže ljudima trokraku raskrsnicu,
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send people a letter and say,
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da im pošalju pismo s rečima:
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"If you don't return this letter,
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„Ako ne odgovorite na ovo pismo,
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we will be forced to stop your medications.
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bićemo prinuđeni da stopiramo isporuku leka.
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But when you return the letter, you could choose branded at this price,
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No, kada odgovorite na pismo, možete da birate između brendiranog po ovoj ceni,
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generic at this price."
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generičkog po ovoj ceni.”
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Now people had to take an action.
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Sada su ljudi primorani na delanje.
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They were on even footing. Right?
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Bili su u istoj ravni. Je li tako?
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It wasn't that one had the no-action benefit.
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Nijedan lek nije imao prednost nedelanja.
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What percentage do you think switched?
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Šta mislite, koliki procenat se prebacio?
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The vast majority switched.
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Velika većina se prebacila.
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So what does it tell us?
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Dakle, šta nam ovo govori?
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Do people like generics, or do we like branded?
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Da li ljudi vole generičke ili volimo brendirane lekove?
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We hate returning letters.
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Mrzimo da odgovaramo na pisma.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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This is the story of friction: small things really matter.
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Ovo je priča o trenju: zaista su važne male stvari.
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And friction is about taking the desired behavior
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A kod trenja se radi o uzimanju poželjnog ponašanja
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and saying: Where do we have too much friction
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i govorenju: gde imamo previše trenja
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so it's slowing people down from acting on it?
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koje usporava ljude da ga prevaziđu?
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And every time you see that the desired behavior
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A svaki put kada vidite da poželjno ponašanje
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and the easy behavior are not aligned,
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i jednostavno ponašanje nisu usklađeni,
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it means we want to try and realign them.
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to znači da želimo da ih nanovo uskladimo.
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That's the first part. We talked about friction.
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To je prvi deo. Govorili smo o trenju.
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Now let's talk about motivation.
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Sad razgovarajmo o motivaciji.
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In this particular study,
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Baš smo u ovoj studiji
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we were trying to get very poor people in a slum called Kibera in Kenya
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pokušali da navedemo veoma siromašne ljude iz sirotinjskog kvarta Kibera u Keniji
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to save a little bit of money for a rainy day.
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da sačuvaju nešto novca za crne dane.
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You know, if you're very, very poor, you have no extra money,
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Znate, ako ste veoma, veoma siromašni, nemate dodatnog novca,
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you live hand to mouth,
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živite od danas do sutra,
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and from time to time, bad things happen.
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a povremeno se dešavaju loše stvari.
07:37
And when something bad happens, you have nothing to draw on, you borrow.
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A kada se nešto loše desi, nemate zalihe, morate da pozajmljujete.
07:42
The Kibera people can borrow at sometimes up to 10 percent interest a week.
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Ljudi iz Kibere ponekad mogu da se zaduže i s kamatnim stopama od 10% nedeljno.
07:48
And then, of course, it's really hard to get out of it.
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A onda, naravno, teško je izvući se iz toga.
07:51
You live hand to mouth, something bad happens,
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Živite od danas do sutra, nešto loše se desi,
07:53
you borrow, things get worse and worse and worse.
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zadužite se, stvari postanu samo gore i gore.
07:56
So we wanted people to keep a little bit of money for a rainy day.
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Pa smo želeli da ljudi uštede malo novca za crne dane.
08:00
And we thought about what is the motivation,
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Pa smo razmišljali o motivaciji,
08:02
what is the fuel that we need to add?
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o pokretaču koji moramo da dodamo.
08:05
And we tried all kinds of things.
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Isprobali smo razne stvari.
08:07
Some people, we texted them once a week and said,
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Nekim ljudima smo jednom nedeljno slali poruke s rečima:
08:09
"Please try to save 100 shillings" -- about a dollar -- "this week."
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„Molimo vas, pokušajte da uštedite sto šilinga” - oko dolara - „ove nedelje.”
08:14
Some people, we sent a text message as if it came from their kids.
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Nekim ljudima smo slali poruku kao da stiže od njihove dece.
08:19
So it said, "Hi Mom, hi Dad, this is little Joey" --
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Glasila je: „Zdravo, mama i tata, piše vam mali Džoi” -
08:22
whatever the name of the kid was --
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ili kako se već zvalo dete -
08:24
"Try and save 100 shillings this week for the future of our family."
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„Pokušajte da uštedite sto šilinga ove nedelje za budućnost naše porodice.”
08:28
Right? I'm Jewish, a little bit of guilt always works.
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Je li tako? Ja sam Jevrej, malo krivice uvek deluje.
08:32
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:33
Some people got 10 percent.
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Neki ljudi su dobili 10 procenata.
08:35
"Save up to a hundred shillings, we'll give you 10 percent."
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„Uštedite do sto šilinga, daćemo vam 10 procenata.”
08:38
Some people got 20 percent.
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Neki ljudi su dobili 20 procenata.
08:40
Some people got also 10 percent and 20 percent,
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Neki ljudi su dobili i 10 i 20 procenata,
08:42
but they got it with loss aversion.
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ali uz averziju prema gubitku.
Šta je averzija prema gubitku?
08:45
What is loss aversion?
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08:46
Loss aversion is the idea that we hate losing
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Averzija prema gubitku je zamisao da mrzimo da gubimo
08:48
more than we enjoy gaining.
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više nego što uživamo da dobijamo.
08:50
Now, think about somebody who is in a 10-percent condition
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Sad zamislite nekoga u slučaju deset procenata
08:53
and they put 40 shillings in.
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i on uštedi 40 šilinga.
08:55
They put 40 shillings, we give them four more,
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Odvoji 40 šilinga, mi mu damo dodatna četiri.
08:57
they say thank you very much.
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On kaže hvala lepo.
08:59
That person gave up six.
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Ta osoba je izgubila šest.
09:00
They could have gotten six more if they gave a hundred,
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Mogli su da dobiju još šest, da su dali stotinu,
09:03
but they don't see it.
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ali oni to ne uviđaju.
09:05
So we created what we call pre-match.
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Pa smo osmislili nešto što nazivamo početnim bonusom.
09:07
We put the 10 shillings in at the beginning of the week.
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Odvojili smo deset šilinga na početku nedelje.
Rekli smo, „Čekaju na vas!”
09:10
We said, "It's waiting for you!"
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09:11
And then if somebody puts 40 in, we say, "Oh, you put 40 in,
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U tom slučaju, ako neko odvoji 40, kažemo: „Uplatili ste 40,
09:14
we're leaving four, and we're taking six back."
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ostavljamo četiri, a uzimamo šest.”
09:17
So in both cases, pre-match or post-match,
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Dakle, u oba slučaja, kod početnog ili krajnjeg bonusa,
09:20
people get 10 percent.
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ljudi bi dobili 10 procenata.
09:22
But in the pre-match,
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Međutim, kod početnog bonusa,
09:23
they see the money they did not match leaving their account.
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videli su mogući bonus kako napušta njihov nalog.
09:27
So we have text, text from kids, 10 percent, 20 percent,
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Imali smo poruke, poruke od dece, 10 procenata, 20 procenata,
09:30
pre-match, post-match.
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početni bonus, krajnji bonus.
09:32
And we had one more condition.
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I imali smo još jednu mogućnost.
09:34
It was a coin about this size,
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Radilo se o novčiću ove veličine,
09:36
with 24 numbers written on it.
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sa 24 broja ispisana na njemu.
09:39
And we asked them to put the coin somewhere in their hut,
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I zatražili smo im da smeste novčić negde u svoju baraku
09:42
and every week, take a knife and scratch the number for that week --
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i da svake nedelje uzmu nož i ogrebu broj za tu nedelju -
09:46
week one, two, three, four --
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prva nedelja, druga, treća, četvrta -
09:48
scratch it like a minus if they didn't save
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da grebu u vidu minusa ako ne uštede,
09:50
and scratch it up and down if they saved.
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a da grebu u smeru gore-dole, ako uštede.
09:53
Now, think to yourself:
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Sad, razmislite sami:
09:55
Which one of those methods do you think worked the best?
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koji metod je najbolje delovao?
09:58
Text, text from the kids, 10 percent, 20 percent,
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Poruka, poruka od dece, 10 procenata, 20 procenata,
10:00
beginning of the week, end of the week, and the coin?
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početak nedelje, kraj nedelje i novčić?
Reći ću vam šta prosečni ljudi misle.
10:03
I'll tell you what the average people think.
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10:05
We've done these studies of prediction,
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Radili smo studije nagađanja
10:07
both in the US and in Kenya.
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i u SAD-u i u Keniji.
10:09
People think that 20 percent will get a lot of action,
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Ljudi su smatrali da će 20 procenata da izazove veliku pažnju,
10:12
10 percent less,
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10 procenata manju,
10:13
the rest of it will do nothing --
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a ostatak neće postići ništa -
10:15
kids, coin, doesn't matter.
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deca i novčić nisu važni.
10:19
People think loss aversion will have a small effect.
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Ljudi smatraju da će averzija prema gubitku da ima mali uticaj.
10:22
What actually happened?
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Šta se zapravo desilo?
10:24
Sending a text reminder once a week
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Nedeljni podsetnik u vidu poruke
10:27
helps a lot.
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pomaže mnogo.
10:28
Good news!
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Dobre vesti!
Program je trajao šest meseci. Ljudi zaborave. Podsećanje ljudi je sjajno.
10:30
This program lasted six months. People forget. Reminding people is great.
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10:34
Ten percent at the end of the week helped some more.
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Deset procenata na kraju nedelje je pomoglo još više.
10:37
Financial incentives work.
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Finansijski podsticaji deluju.
10:39
Twenty percent at the end of the week -- just like 10 percent, no difference.
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Dvadeset procenata na kraju nedelje - isto kao 10 procenata, nema razlike.
10:43
Ten percent in the beginning of the week
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Deset procenata na početku nedelje
10:45
helps some more.
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još više pomaže.
10:46
Loss aversion works.
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Averzija prema gubitku deluje.
10:48
Twenty percent in the beginning of the week,
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Dvadeset procenata na početku nedelje,
10:50
just like 10 percent in the beginning of the week, no difference.
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baš kao 10 procenata na početku nedelje, nema razlike.
10:53
And the text message from the kids was just as effective
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A poruka od dece je bila jednako učinkovita
10:56
as 20 percent plus loss aversion --
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kao 20 procenata plus averzija prema gubitku -
10:59
which is amazing, right?
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a to je neverovatno, zar ne?
11:01
It's amazing how motivating messages from kids were.
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Neverovatno koliko su podsticajne bile poruke od dece.
11:04
And one conclusion is we don't use kids enough.
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A jedan od zaključaka glasi da ne koristimo dovoljno decu.
11:07
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
11:09
And, of course, I don't mean in a child labor sense.
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I, naravno, ne mislim u smislu dečjeg rada.
11:16
But if you think about parents and their kids,
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Međutim, ako mislite na roditelje i decu,
11:18
we are the best that we can for our kids,
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najbolji smo prema našoj deci,
11:21
and we think about the future,
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razmišljamo o budućnosti,
11:22
and I think we should think
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i mislim da bi trebalo da mislimo
11:24
about how to use that amazing source of motivation
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o tome kako da koristimo taj izvanredni izvor motivacije
11:27
to get parents to behave in a better way.
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da navedemo roditelje da se ponašaju bolje.
11:30
But the big surprise of this study was the coin.
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Međutim, veliko iznenađenje u ovoj studiji je bio novčić.
11:33
The coin basically doubled savings compared to everything else.
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Novčić je u suštini udvostručio uštede u poređenju sa svim ostalim.
11:37
And now the question is: Why? What was it about the coin?
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Što povlači pitanje: zašto? Šta je to u vezi s novčićem?
11:41
So I'll tell you how I started thinking about the coin,
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Reći ću vam kako sam počeo da razmišljam o novčiću,
11:43
and then we'll come back to it.
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pa ćemo se vratiti na njega.
11:45
So you know, when I do research on, let's say, buying coffee,
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Znate, kada radim istraživanje o, recimo, kupovini kafe,
11:48
I don't need to go anywhere. I can sit in my office.
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ne moram nigde da idem. Mogu da sedim u kancelariji.
11:50
I've bought enough coffee. I know how it works.
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Dovoljno puta sam kupio kafu. Znam postupak.
11:52
The details, I'm familiar with.
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Pojedinosti su mi poznate.
11:54
When you do research in some of the poorest places in the world,
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Kada radite istraživanje u nekim od najsiromašnijih delova sveta,
11:58
you have to go and visit and see what's going on
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morate da pođete u posetu i vidite šta se dešava
12:00
and get some insight about how the system works.
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kako biste imali nekakav uvid o tome kako sistem funkcioniše.
12:03
And on that particular day,
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A baš tog dana,
12:04
I'm in a place called Soweto in South Africa,
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bio sam u mestu Soveto u Južnoj Africi
12:07
and I'm sitting in a place that sells funeral insurance.
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i sedeo sam na mestu gde se prodaju osiguranja za sahrane.
12:11
You know, in the US people spend crazy amounts of money on weddings?
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Znate kako u SAD-u ljudi troše sulude sume novca na venčanja?
12:15
In South Africa, it's funerals.
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U Južnoj Africi troše na sahrane.
12:18
People spend up to a year or two years of income on funerals.
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Ljudi troše godišnji ili dvogodišnji prihod na sahrane.
12:23
And I sit in this place --
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I sedim na ovom mestu -
12:26
by the way, before you judge the South Africans as being irrational with this,
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usput, pre nego što osudite Južnoafrikance kao iracionalne zbog ovoga,
12:31
I just want to remind you
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samo želim da vas podsetim
12:32
that spending a lot of money on funerals compared to weddings,
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da trošenjem velikih suma novca na sahrane u poređenju sa svadbama,
12:36
at least you know for sure you only have one.
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bar ste sigurni da ćete da imate samo jednu.
12:38
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:48
OK, so I sit in this place that sells funeral insurance.
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U redu, sedim na tom mestu koje prodaje pogrebna osiguranja.
12:53
And this guy comes in with his son -- his son is about 12 --
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Dolazi jedan čovek sa sinom - sin mu ima oko 12 godina -
12:57
and he buys funeral insurance for a week.
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i kupuje pogrebno osiguranje na nedelju dana.
13:00
It will cover 90 percent of his funeral expense
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Pokriće 90 procenata troškova njegove sahrane,
13:03
only if he dies in the next seven days.
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samo ako umre u narednih sedam dana.
13:06
Right? These are very poor people, they buy small amounts of insurance
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Je l' da? Ovo su veoma siromašni ljudi, kupuju osiguranje na malo,
13:09
and small amount of soap and such.
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male količine sapuna i slično.
13:11
And he gets that certificate,
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I on prima sertifikat
13:13
and in a very ceremonious way, he gives it to his son.
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i na veoma svečan način uručuje ga njegovom sinu.
13:16
And as he gives it to his son, I think to myself, why the ceremony?
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I dok ga pruža sinu, razmišljam u sebi: čemu svečanost?
13:19
What is this father doing?
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Šta radi ovaj otac?
13:21
Now, think about the breadwinner that decides on that particular day
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Razmislite o jedinom zaposlenom članu porodice koji odluči da baš taj dan
13:25
to direct some money into insurance or savings.
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preusmeri nešto novca na osiguranje ili štednju.
13:28
What is the family going to see tonight?
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Šta će porodica da vidi večeras?
13:31
They're going to see less.
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Videće manje.
13:33
Right? At that level of poverty, there'll be less food, less kerosene, less water --
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Tačno? Na tom stadijumu siromaštva biće manje hrane, manje goriva, manje vode -
13:37
something less tonight.
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biće nečeg manje večeras.
13:39
And what his father was doing and what our coin was trying to do
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A ono što je njegov otac radio i što je naš novčić pokušao da uradi
13:42
is to say, yes, there's less food on the table,
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je da kaže, da, biće manje hrane na stolu,
13:45
but there's another activity.
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ali postoji i druga aktivnost.
13:47
You see, what happened is, there are many good, important economic activities,
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Vidite, dešava se to da postoje mnoge dobre, važne ekonomske aktivnosti,
13:51
like savings and insurance, that are invisible.
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poput štednje i osiguranja koje su nevidljive.
13:54
And now the question is: How do we make them visible?
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Pitanje sada glasi: kako da ih učinimo vidljivim?
13:58
So let's go back to our rocket model.
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Vratimo se na model rakete.
14:02
We have to, first of all, look at the system
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Moramo pre svega da posmatramo sistem
14:04
and see where there's little things we can fix, with friction,
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i uočimo gde su sitnice koje možemo da popravimo, u vezi sa trenjem,
14:08
where is there that we can remove friction?
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ako je prisutno, kako da ga uklonimo?
14:10
And then the next thing we want to do is to think broadly about the system,
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A potom, sledeća stvar koju možemo da uradimo je da mislimo šire o sistemu
14:14
and say: What other motivations can we bring in?
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i da kažemo: koje još motivacije možemo da uvedemo?
14:18
And that's a much more difficult exercise,
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A to je daleko teža vežba
14:20
and we don't always know what would work best.
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jer ne znamo uvek šta je najfunkcionalnije.
14:22
Is it going to be money? Is it going to be loss aversion?
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Da li je to novac? Da li je to averzija prema gubitku?
14:25
Is it going to be something that is visible?
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Da li je to nešto što je vidljivo?
14:27
We don't know, and we have to try different things.
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Ne znamo i moramo da isprobamo različite stvari.
14:30
We also have to realize that our intuition sometimes misleads us.
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Moramo i da uvidimo da nas intuicija ponekad obmanjuje.
14:33
We don't always necessarily know what would work the best.
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Ne znamo nužno uvek šta bi najbolje funkcionisalo.
14:37
So if we think about this gap
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Zato, ako razmislimo o ovom jazu
između toga gde bismo mogli da budemo i gde jesmo,
14:39
between where we could be and where we are,
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14:41
it's a really sad thing to see this gap and to think about it.
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zaista je tužno videti ovaj jaz i razmišljati o njemu.
14:44
But the good news is, there's lots we can do.
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No, dobre vesti su da mnogo toga možemo da uradimo.
14:47
Some of the changes are easy, some of the changes are more complex.
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Neke promene su lake, neke su složenije.
Međutim, ako se direktno suočimo sa svakim problemom,
14:51
But if we'll attack each problem directly,
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14:53
not by just providing more information to people
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ne samo pukim pružanjem više informacija ljudima,
14:57
but trying to change the friction,
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već pokušavanjem da se izmeni trenje,
14:59
add motivation,
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doda motivacija,
15:00
I think we can ...
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mislim da možemo...
15:01
Can we close the gap? No.
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Možemo li da zatvorimo jaz? Ne.
15:03
But can we get much better? Absolutely, yes.
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Međutim, možemo li da budemo mnogo bolji? Apsolutno, da.
15:06
Thank you very much.
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Mnogo vam hvala.
15:07
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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