The case for optimism on climate change | Al Gore

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Prevodilac: Aleksandar Korom Lektor: Ivana Korom
00:12
I was excited to be a part of the "Dream" theme,
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Bio sam uzbuđen što ću biti deo teme "Sanjaj",
00:17
and then I found out I'm leading off the "Nightmare?" section of it.
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a onda sam saznao da otvaram njenu sekciju "Košmar?"
00:20
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
00:23
And certainly there are things about the climate crisis that qualify.
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I zasigurno postoje stvari oko klimatske krize koje se tu mogu svrstati.
00:28
And I have some bad news,
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I imam neke loše vesti
00:30
but I have a lot more good news.
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međutim imam mnogo više dobrih vesti.
00:32
I'm going to propose three questions
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Postaviću tri pitanja,
00:36
and the answer to the first one
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a odgovor na prvo
00:39
necessarily involves a little bad news.
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nužno uključuje malo loših vesti.
00:41
But -- hang on, because the answers to the second and third questions
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Ali - sačekajte, jer su odgovori na drugo i treće pitanje
00:46
really are very positive.
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zaista veoma pozitivni.
00:49
So the first question is, "Do we really have to change?"
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Dakle, prvo pitanje je: "Da li zaista moramo da se menjamo?"
00:54
And of course, the Apollo Mission, among other things
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I naravno, Apolo misija je, između ostalog,
00:59
changed the environmental movement,
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promenila ekološki pokret,
01:01
really launched the modern environmental movement.
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zaista lansirala moderan ekološki pokret
01:04
18 months after this Earthrise picture was first seen on earth,
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18 meseci nakon što je ova fotografija izlaska Zemlje prvi put viđena
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the first Earth Day was organized.
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prvi Dan Zemlje je organizovan.
01:11
And we learned a lot about ourselves
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I naučili smo mnogo toga o nama samima
01:14
looking back at our planet from space.
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gledajući nazad na našu planetu iz svemira.
01:17
And one of the things that we learned
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I jedna od stvari koje smo naučili
01:19
confirmed what the scientists have long told us.
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potvrdila je ono što su nam naučnici davno rekli.
01:21
One of the most essential facts
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Jedna od osvnovnih činjenica
01:23
about the climate crisis has to do with the sky.
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o klimatskoj krizi ima veze sa nebom.
01:26
As this picture illustrates,
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Kao što ova slika to ilustruje,
01:28
the sky is not the vast and limitless expanse
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nebo nije ogroman i bezgraničan prostor
01:31
that appears when we look up from the ground.
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koji nam se ukazuje kada dignemo pogled od tla.
01:34
It is a very thin shell of atmosphere
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To je veoma tanak omotač atmosfere
01:38
surrounding the planet.
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koji obmotava našu planetu.
01:40
That right now is the open sewer for our industrial civilization
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I to je sada otvorena kanalizacija za našu industrijsku civilizaciju
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as it's currently organized.
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u ovoj sadašnjoj organizaciji.
01:47
We are spewing 110 million tons
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Svakih 24 časa izbacujemo 110 miliona tona
01:51
of heat-trapping global warming pollution into it every 24 hours,
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zagađenja od zadržavanja toplote globalnog zagrevanja
01:56
free of charge, go ahead.
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u atmosferu, potpuno besplatno.
01:58
And there are many sources of the greenhouse gases,
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I postoje mnogi izvori gasova staklenih bašti,
02:01
I'm certainly not going to go through them all.
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i neću prolaziti kroz sve njih.
02:03
I'm going to focus on the main one,
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Fokusiraću se na glavni,
02:05
but agriculture is involved, diet is involved, population is involved.
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ali poljoprivreda, ishrana i stanovništvo je uključeno.
02:09
Management of forests, transportation,
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Upravljanje šumama, saobraćaj,
02:11
the oceans, the melting of the permafrost.
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okeani, topljenje permafrosta.
02:14
But I'm going to focus on the heart of the problem,
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Ali fokusiraću se na srž problema, a to je činjenica
02:16
which is the fact that we still rely on dirty, carbon-based fuels
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da se i dalje oslanjamo na prljavo gorivo na bazi ugljenika
02:21
for 85 percent of all the energy that our world burns every year.
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za 85% ukupne energije koju sagorimo svake godine.
02:27
And you can see from this image that after World War II,
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I možete videti na ovoj slici da, nakon II svetskog rata,
02:31
the emission rates started really accelerating.
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stope emisije su počele zaista da ubrzavaju.
02:34
And the accumulated amount of man-made, global warming pollution
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I nagomilane količine zagađenja globalnog zagrevanja,
02:37
that is up in the atmosphere now
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koje je čovek napravio i nalaze se u atmosferi
02:39
traps as much extra heat energy as would be released
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zadržavaju toliku dodatnu količinu toplotne energije kao kada bi
02:43
by 400,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs exploding
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400.000 atomskih bombi, kao u Hirošimi,
eksplodiralo svaka 24 sata 365 dana u toku godine.
02:48
every 24 hours, 365 days a year.
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02:52
Fact-checked over and over again,
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Ovo je iznova i iznova
02:54
conservative, it's the truth.
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proverena činjenica i to je istina.
02:56
Now it's a big planet, but --
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Ovo je velika planeta ali -
02:59
(Explosion sound)
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(Zvuk eksplozije)
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that is a lot of energy,
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to je mnogo energije,
03:02
particularly when you multiply it 400,000 times per day.
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naročito kada se pomnoži 400.000 puta svakog dana.
03:08
And all that extra heat energy
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I sva ta dodatna količina
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is heating up the atmosphere, the whole earth system.
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toplotne energije zagreva atmosferu i ceo zemljin sistem.
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Let's look at the atmosphere.
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Pogledajmo atmosferu.
03:15
This is a depiction
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Ovo je prikaz
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of what we used to think of as the normal distribution of temperatures.
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našeg nekadašnjeg shvatanja normalne distribucije temperatura.
03:22
The white represents normal temperature days;
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Belo predstavlja dane normalnih temperatura;
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1951-1980 are arbitrarily chosen.
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period od 1951 do 1980 je proizvoljno izabran.
03:28
The blue are cooler than average days,
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Plavo su dani hladniji od prosečnih,
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the red are warmer than average days.
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crveni su dani topliji od prosečnih.
03:32
But the entire curve has moved to the right in the 1980s.
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Ali cela kriva se pomerila u desno u osamdesetim godinama.
03:36
And you'll see in the lower right-hand corner
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I videćete u donjem desnom uglu
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the appearance of statistically significant numbers
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pojavu statistički značajnih brojeva
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of extremely hot days.
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ekstremno toplih dana.
03:42
In the 90s, the curve shifted further.
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Devedesetih godina kriva se još pomerila.
03:44
And in the last 10 years, you see the extremely hot days
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A u poslednjih 10 godina, vidimo ekstremno tople dane
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are now more numerous than the cooler than average days.
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sada mnogo brojnije u odnosu na dane hladnije od prosečnih.
03:52
In fact, they are 150 times more common on the surface of the earth
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Zapravo, sada su 150 puta učestaliji na Zemlji
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than they were just 30 years ago.
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nego što su bili pre 30 godina.
04:01
So we're having record-breaking temperatures.
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Tako da imamo temperature koje obaraju rekorde.
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Fourteen of the 15 of the hottest years ever measured with instruments
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14 od 15 najtoplijih godina do sada, izmerene pomoću instrumenata,
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have been in this young century.
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su bile u ovom veku.
04:09
The hottest of all was last year.
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Najtoplija od svih bila je prošla godina.
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Last month was the 371st month in a row
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Prošli mesec je bio 371. mesec zaredom
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warmer than the 20th-century average.
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koji je topliji od prosečnih u 20. veku.
04:17
And for the first time, not only the warmest January,
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I prvi put, ne samo najtopliji januar,
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but for the first time, it was more than two degrees Fahrenheit warmer
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već je bilo više od jednog stepena Celzijusa toplije
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than the average.
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nego prosečno.
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These higher temperatures are having an effect on animals,
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Ove visoke temperature imaju uticaja na životinje,
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plants, people, ecosystems.
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biljke, ljude, ekosisteme.
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But on a global basis, 93 percent of all the extra heat energy
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Ali na globalnom nivou, 93% ukupne dodatne toplotne energije
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is trapped in the oceans.
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se zadržava u okeanima.
04:42
And the scientists can measure the heat buildup
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I naučnici mogu da izmere gomilanje toplote
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much more precisely now
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mnogo preciznije sada
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at all depths: deep, mid-ocean,
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na svim dubinama: duboko, na sredini okeana
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the first few hundred meters.
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i na prvih nekoliko stotina metara.
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And this, too, is accelerating.
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I ovo se, takođe, ubrzava.
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It goes back more than a century.
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I to ide unazad više od veka.
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And more than half of the increase has been in the last 19 years.
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Više od polovine tog povećanja se desilo u poslednjih 19 godina.
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This has consequences.
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Ovo ostavlja posledice.
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The first order of consequence:
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Prvi stepen posledica:
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the ocean-based storms get stronger.
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okeanske oluje postaju snažnije.
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Super Typhoon Haiyan went over areas of the Pacific
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Super tajfun Haijan otišao je preko oblasti Pacifika,
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five and a half degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal
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skoro 15 stepeni Celzijusa topliji nego što je inače,
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before it slammed into Tacloban,
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pre nego što se srušio u Takloban
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as the most destructive storm ever to make landfall.
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i to je bila najrazornija oluja do sada koja je stigla do kopna.
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Pope Francis, who has made such a difference to this whole issue,
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Papa Franja, koji je imao značajan uticaj na ovu temu,
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visited Tacloban right after that.
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posetio je Takloban ubrzo posle toga.
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Superstorm Sandy went over areas of the Atlantic
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Superoluja Sendi otišla je preko oblasti Atlantika,
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nine degrees warmer than normal
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dvanaest stepeni toplija nego što je inače,
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before slamming into New York and New Jersey.
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pre nego što se srušila u Njujork i Nju Džerzi.
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The second order of consequences are affecting all of us right now.
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Drugi stepen posledica utiče na sve nas upravo sada.
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The warmer oceans are evaporating much more water vapor into the skies.
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Topliji okeani isparavaju mnogo više vodene pare u nebo.
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Average humidity worldwide has gone up four percent.
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Prosečna vlažnost na svetu se popela više od 4%.
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And it creates these atmospheric rivers.
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I stvara ove atmosferske reke.
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The Brazilian scientists call them "flying rivers."
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Brazilski naučnici ih zovu "leteće reke".
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And they funnel all of that extra water vapor over the land
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One preusmeravaju svu tu dodatnu vodenu paru preko zemlje
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where storm conditions trigger these massive record-breaking downpours.
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gde uslovi za oluju pokreću ove masivne rekordne pljuskove.
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This is from Montana.
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Ovo je bilo u Montani.
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Take a look at this storm last August.
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Pogledajte ovu oluju od prošlog avgusta
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As it moves over Tucson, Arizona.
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kako se kreće preko Tusona u Arizoni.
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It literally splashes off the city.
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Bukvalno prska grad.
06:11
These downpours are really unusual.
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Ovakvi pljuskovi su zaista neuobičajeni.
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Last July in Houston, Texas,
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Prošlog jula u Hjustonu u Teksasu,
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it rained for two days, 162 billion gallons.
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ispljuštalo je 613 milijardi litara u dva dana.
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That represents more than two days of the full flow of Niagara Falls
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To predstavlja više od dva dana Nijagarinih vodopada pod punim pritiskom
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in the middle of the city,
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u centru grada,
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which was, of course, paralyzed.
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koji se, naravno, tako paralizovao.
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These record downpours are creating historic floods and mudslides.
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Ovi rekordni pljuskovi stvaraju istorijske poplave i klizišta.
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This one is from Chile last year.
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Ovo je iz Čilea, prošle godine.
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And you'll see that warehouse going by.
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Vidite kako skladište prolazi pored.
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There are oil tankers cars going by.
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Cisterne naftnih vozila takođe prolaze.
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This is from Spain last September,
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Ovo je iz Španije, prošlog septembra.
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you could call this the running of the cars and trucks, I guess.
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Ovo možemo nazvati kretanjem automobila i kamiona, pretpostavljam.
06:49
Every night on the TV news now is like a nature hike
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TV vesti su sada svake večeri kao šetnja prirodom
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through the Book of Revelation.
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kroz knjigu Otkrovenja.
06:54
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
06:56
I mean, really.
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Mislim, zaista.
06:59
The insurance industry has certainly noticed,
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Industrija osiguranja je svakako zabeležila
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the losses have been mounting up.
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kako se gubici gomilaju.
07:03
They're not under any illusions about what's happening.
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Nemaju nikakve iluzije o tome šta se dešava.
07:07
And the causality requires a moment of discussion.
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A uzročnost zahteva trenutak diskusije.
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We're used to thinking of linear cause and linear effect --
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Naviknuti smo da razmišljamo - linearni uzrok i linearna posledica:
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one cause, one effect.
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jedan uzrok, jedna posledica.
07:17
This is systemic causation.
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Ovo je prouzrokovano sistemski.
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As the great Kevin Trenberth says,
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Kao što veliki Kevin Trenbert kaže:
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"All storms are different now.
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"Sve oluje su sada drugačije.
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There's so much extra energy in the atmosphere,
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Toliko se dodatne energije nalazi u atmosferi,
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there's so much extra water vapor.
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da ima toliko dodatne vodene pare.
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Every storm is different now."
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Svaka oluja je sada drugačija."
07:31
So, the same extra heat pulls the soil moisture out of the ground
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Tako da, ista dodatna toplota izvlači vlažnost iz zemljišta
07:36
and causes these deeper, longer, more pervasive droughts
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i prouzrokuje ove dublje, duže i obuhvatnije suše
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and many of them are underway right now.
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i mnoge od njih su u toku sada.
07:42
It dries out the vegetation
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Isušuju vegetaciju
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and causes more fires in the western part of North America.
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i izazivaju više požara u zapadnom delu severne Amerike.
07:47
There's certainly been evidence of that, a lot of them.
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Svakako postoje mnogobrojni dokazi o tome.
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More lightning,
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Više munja,
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as the heat energy builds up, there's a considerable amount
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kako se toplotna energija gomila, pojavljuje se
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of additional lightning also.
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znatna količina dodatnih munja, takođe.
07:58
These climate-related disasters also have geopolitical consequences
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Ove klimatske katastrofe takođe ostavljaju geopoličitke posledice
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and create instability.
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i stvaraju nestabilnost.
08:07
The climate-related historic drought that started in Syria in 2006
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Klimatska istorijska suša koja je počela u Siriji 2006.
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destroyed 60 percent of the farms in Syria,
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uništila je 60% farmi u Siriji,
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killed 80 percent of the livestock,
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ubila 80% stoke,
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and drove 1.5 million climate refugees into the cities of Syria,
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i dovela 1,5 miliona klimatskih izbeglica u gradove Sirije,
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where they collided with another 1.5 million refugees
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koji su se sudarili sa drugih 1,5 miliona izbeglica
08:25
from the Iraq War.
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iz rata u Iraku.
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And along with other factors, that opened the gates of Hell
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Zajedno sa drugim faktorima, to je otvorilo vrata Pakla
08:32
that people are trying to close now.
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koja ljudi sada pokušavaju da zatvore.
08:35
The US Defense Department has long warned
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Američko ministarstvo za odbranu je davno upozorilo
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of consequences from the climate crisis,
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na posledice klimatske krize,
08:40
including refugees, food and water shortages
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kao što su izbeglice, nedostatak hrane i vode
08:44
and pandemic disease.
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i pandemije bolesti.
08:46
Right now we're seeing microbial diseases from the tropics spread
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Sada vidimo bolesti mikroba koje se iz tropskih krajeva
08:51
to the higher latitudes;
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šire na više visine;
08:52
the transportation revolution has had a lot to do with this.
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revolucija u transportu ima mnogo veze sa ovim.
08:56
But the changing conditions change the latitudes and the areas
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Ali promenljivi uslovi menjaju opseg u oblastima
09:00
where these microbial diseases can become endemic
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gde mikrobijalne bolesti mogu postati endemske
09:03
and change the range of the vectors, like mosquitoes and ticks that carry them.
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i promeniti vektorski opseg, kao i komarci i krpelji koji ih prenose.
09:08
The Zika epidemic now --
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Kada govorimo o Zika epidemiji -
mi smo bolje pozicionirani ovde u severnoj Americi
09:12
we're better positioned in North America
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09:14
because it's still a little too cool and we have a better public health system.
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zato što je još uvek malo hladnije i imamo bolji javni zdravstveni sistem.
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But when women in some regions of South and Central America
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Ali kada se žene u nekim oblastima južne i centralne Amerike
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are advised not to get pregnant for two years --
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savetuju da ne zatrudne dve godine -
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that's something new, that ought to get our attention.
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to je nešto novo, i trebalo bi da dobije našu pažnju.
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The Lancet, one of the two greatest medical journals in the world,
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"Lanset", jedan od dva najveća medicinska žurnala na svetu,
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last summer labeled this a medical emergency now.
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prošlog leta je ovo obeležio kao medicinsko vanredno stanje.
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And there are many factors because of it.
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I postoje mnogi faktori usled toga.
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This is also connected to the extinction crisis.
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To je takođe povezano sa krizom izumiranja.
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We're in danger of losing 50 percent of all the living species on earth
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U opasnosti smo da izgubimo 50% svih živih vrsta na Zemlji
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by the end of this century.
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do kraja ovog veka.
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And already, land-based plants and animals
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I kopnene biljke i životinje
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are now moving towards the poles
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se već sele prema polovima
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at an average rate of 15 feet per day.
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u prosečnoj stopi od 5 metara u toku dana.
09:56
Speaking of the North Pole,
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Kada već govorimo o severnom polu,
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last December 29, the same storm that caused historic flooding
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29. decembra prošle godine, ista oluja koja je prouzrokovala
istorijske poplave na američkom srednjem zapadu
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in the American Midwest,
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raised temperatures at the North Pole
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podigla je temperature na severnom polu
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50 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal,
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10 stepeni Celzijusa toplije nego što je normalno,
10:09
causing the thawing of the North Pole
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i time prouzrokovala odmrzavanje severnog pola
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in the middle of the long, dark, winter, polar night.
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usred duge, mračne, zimske, polarne noći.
10:16
And when the land-based ice of the Arctic melts,
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A kada se kopneni led Artkika topi,
10:20
it raises sea level.
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podiže nivo mora.
10:22
Paul Nicklen's beautiful photograph from Svalbard illustrates this.
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Predivna fotografija Pola Niklena iz Svalbarda ilustruje ovo.
10:26
It's more dangerous coming off Greenland
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Opasnije je kada dolazi sa Grinlenda,
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and particularly, Antarctica.
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a naročito Antarktika.
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The 10 largest risk cities for sea-level rise by population
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Deset najvećih rizičnih gradova od podizanja nivoa mora, za stanovništvo,
10:35
are mostly in South and Southeast Asia.
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su uglavnom na jugu i jugoistoku Azije.
10:37
When you measure it by assets at risk, number one is Miami:
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Kada se mere po riziku imovine, na prvom mestu je Majami:
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three and a half trillion dollars at risk.
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tri ipo biliona dolara u riziku.
10:44
Number three: New York and Newark.
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Na trećem mestu: Njujork i Nevark.
10:46
I was in Miami last fall during the supermoon,
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Bio sam u Majamiju prošle jeseni za vreme supermeseca,
10:49
one of the highest high-tide days.
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jednog od najjačih dana visoke plime.
10:52
And there were fish from the ocean swimming in some of the streets
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I ribe iz okeana su plivale ulicama
10:56
of Miami Beach and Fort Lauderdale
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Majami Biča i Fort Loderdejla
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and Del Rey.
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i Del Reja.
10:59
And this happens regularly during the highest-tide tides now.
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I ovo se sada dešava redovno za vreme najviših plima.
11:02
Not with rain -- they call it "sunny-day flooding."
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Ali ne sa kišom - zovu je "sunčana poplava."
11:05
It comes up through the storm sewers.
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penje se iz olujne kanalizacije.
11:09
And the Mayor of Miami speaks for many when he says
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I gradonačelnik Majamija govori u ime mnogih kada kaže
11:14
it is long past time this can be viewed through a partisan lens.
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davno je prošlo vreme kada se ovo može gledati kroz stranačka sočiva.
11:18
This is a crisis that's getting worse day by day.
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Ovo je kriza koja se pogoršava iz dana u dan.
11:21
We have to move beyond partisanship.
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Moramo da se odmaknemo od političkih stranaka.
11:23
And I want to take a moment to honor these House Republicans --
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Želim na trenutak da odam počast ovim vladajućim republikancima -
11:27
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
11:28
who had the courage last fall
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koji su prošle jeseni imali hrabrosti
11:30
to step out and take a political risk,
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da iskoraknu i naprave politički rizik
11:35
by telling the truth about the climate crisis.
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rekavši istinu o klimatskoj krizi.
11:38
So the cost of the climate crisis is mounting up,
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I troškovi klimatske krize se nagomilavaju,
11:41
there are many of these aspects I haven't even mentioned.
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postoje mnogi ovi aspekti koje nisam ni spomenuo.
11:45
It's an enormous burden.
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To je ogroman teret.
11:47
I'll mention just one more,
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Spomenuću samo još jedan
11:48
because the World Economic Forum last month in Davos,
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jer je svetski ekonomski forum prošlog meseca u Davosu,
11:53
after their annual survey of 750 economists,
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posle godišnje ankete 750 ekonomista,
11:56
said the climate crisis is now the number one risk
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rekao da je klimatska kriza sada rizik br. 1
11:59
to the global economy.
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za globalnu ekonomiju.
12:01
So you get central bankers
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Tako imate centralne bankare
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like Mark Carney, the head of the UK Central Bank,
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kao što je Mark Karni, rukovodilac Centralne Banke UK
12:05
saying the vast majority of the carbon reserves are unburnable.
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koji govori kako je ogromna količina rezervi ugljenika nesagoriva.
12:09
Subprime carbon.
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Nelikvidan ugljenik.
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I'm not going to remind you what happened with subprime mortgages,
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Neću vas podsećati šta se desilo sa nelikvidnim hipotekama,
12:14
but it's the same thing.
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ali isto je.
12:16
If you look at all of the carbon fuels that were burned
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Ako pogledate svo ugljenikovo gorivo koje je sagorelo
12:18
since the beginning of the industrial revolution,
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od početka industrijske revolucije,
12:21
this is the quantity burned in the last 16 years.
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ovo je količina koja je sagorela u poslednjih 16 godina.
12:25
Here are all the ones that are proven and left on the books,
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Ovde su svi koji su dokazani a levo, po podacima,
12:28
28 trillion dollars.
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28 biliona dolara.
12:30
The International Energy Agency says only this amount can be burned.
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Internacionalna Energetska Agencija kaže da samo ova količina može da sagori.
12:34
So the rest, 22 trillion dollars --
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Tako da je ostatak, 22 biliona dolara -
12:37
unburnable.
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nesagorivo.
12:39
Risk to the global economy.
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Rizik za globalnu ekonomiju.
12:41
That's why divestment movement makes practical sense
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Zato pokret lišavanja ima praktičnog smisla
12:44
and is not just a moral imperative.
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i nije samo moralno važan.
12:47
So the answer to the first question, "Must we change?"
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Pa je odgovor na prvo pitanje, "Moramo li se menjati?"
12:51
is yes, we have to change.
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da, moramo se menjati.
12:53
Second question, "Can we change?"
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Drugo pitanje: "Možemo li se menjati?"
12:55
This is the exciting news!
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Ovo je uzbudljiva vest!
12:57
The best projections in the world 16 years ago
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Pre 16 godina, najbolja predviđanja na svetu
13:01
were that by 2010, the world would be able to install
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su bila da će svet do 2010 biti u mogućnosti da uvede
13:05
30 gigawatts of wind capacity.
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30 gigavati vetrovog kapaciteta.
13:07
We beat that mark by 14 and a half times over.
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Prestigli smo tu oznaku 14 ipo puta.
13:12
We see an exponential curve for wind installations now.
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Vidimo eksponencijalnu krivu za vetrane instalacije sada.
13:16
We see the cost coming down dramatically.
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Vidimo da se troškovi dramatično smanjuju.
13:19
Some countries -- take Germany, an industrial powerhouse
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Neke države - kao npr. Nemačka, industrijska sila
13:22
with a climate not that different from Vancouver's, by the way --
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sa klimom, ne toliko drugačijom od ove u Vankuveru,
13:26
one day last December,
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jednog dana prošlog decembra,
13:28
got 81 percent of all its energy from renewable resources,
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imala je 81% ukupne energije iz obnovljivih izvora
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mainly solar and wind.
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uglavnom sunca i vetra.
13:33
A lot of countries are getting more than half on an average basis.
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I mnoge države dobijaju više od pola u proseku.
13:36
More good news:
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Još dobrih vesti:
13:37
energy storage, from batteries particularly,
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skladištenje energije, naročito iz akumulatora,
13:40
is now beginning to take off
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počinje da uzima maha
13:42
because the cost has been coming down very dramatically
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jer su se troškovi dramatično smanjivali
13:46
to solve the intermittency problem.
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kako bi rešili problem isprekidanosti.
13:47
With solar, the news is even more exciting!
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Što se tiče sunčeve energije, vesti su još uzbudljivije!
13:50
The best projections 14 years ago were that we would install
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Pre 14 godina, najbolja predviđanja su bila da ćemo sprovesti
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one gigawatt per year by 2010.
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jedan gigavat po godini do 2010.
13:56
When 2010 came around, we beat that mark by 17 times over.
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Kada je došla 2010. prestigli smo tu cifru 17 puta.
14:01
Last year, we beat it by 58 times over.
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Prošle godine, prestigli smo je 58 puta.
14:04
This year, we're on track to beat it 68 times over.
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Ove godine smo na putu da je prestignemo 68 puta.
14:07
We're going to win this.
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I uspećemo u tome.
14:09
We are going to prevail.
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Preovladaćemo.
14:10
The exponential curve on solar is even steeper and more dramatic.
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Ova eksponencijalna kriva kod solarne energije
je još strmija i dramatičnija.
14:14
When I came to this stage 10 years ago,
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Kada sam došao na ovu binu pre 10 godina,
14:16
this is where it was.
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kriva je bila ovde.
14:18
We have seen a revolutionary breakthrough
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Bili smo svedoci revolucionarnog otkrića
14:22
in the emergence of these exponential curves.
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pojave ovih eksponencijalnih krivih.
14:25
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
14:28
And the cost has come down 10 percent per year
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I trošak se smanjio 10% godišnje
14:32
for 30 years.
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za 30 godina.
14:33
And it's continuing to come down.
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I nastavlja da se smanjuje.
14:36
Now, the business community has certainly noticed this,
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I poslovna zajednica je ovo svakako primetila,
14:38
because it's crossing the grid parity point.
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jer prelazi tačku na mreži pariteta.
14:41
Cheaper solar penetration rates are beginning to rise.
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Prodor jeftinijih solarnih stopa počinju da se pojavljuju.
14:44
Grid parity is understood as that line, that threshold,
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Mreža pariteta se objašnjava kao ta linija, taj prag
14:48
below which renewable electricity is cheaper than electricity
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ispod kojeg je obnovljiva struja jeftinija od struje koja se dobija
14:52
from burning fossil fuels.
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sagorevanjem fosilnih goriva.
14:54
That threshold is a little bit like the difference
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Taj prag je otprilike kao razlika
14:57
between 32 degrees Fahrenheit and 33 degrees Fahrenheit,
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između 32 i 33 stepeni Farenhajta,
15:01
or zero and one Celsius.
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ili nula i 1 stepen Celzijusa.
15:03
It's a difference of more than one degree,
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To je razlika veća od jednog stepena,
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it's the difference between ice and water.
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to je razlika između leda i vode.
15:07
And it's the difference between markets that are frozen up,
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To je razlika između tržišta koje je zamrznuto,
15:11
and liquid flows of capital into new opportunities for investment.
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i protoka kapitala u nove prilike za investicije.
15:16
This is the biggest new business opportunity
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Ovo je najveća nova poslovna prilika
15:19
in the history of the world,
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u istoriji sveta,
15:21
and two-thirds of it is in the private sector.
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i njene dve trećine su u privatnom sektoru.
15:24
We are seeing an explosion of new investment.
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Vidimo eksploziju novih investicija.
15:28
Starting in 2010, investments globally in renewable electricity generation
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Od 2010. godine investicije, globalno, u obnovljive električne generacije
15:33
surpassed fossils.
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prestigle su fosilne.
15:35
The gap has been growing ever since.
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I raskorak od tada raste.
15:37
The projections for the future are even more dramatic,
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Predviđanja za budućnost su još dramatičnija,
15:40
even though fossil energy is now still subsidized
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iako je fosilna energija još uvek subvencionisana
15:44
at a rate 40 times larger than renewables.
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u meri 40 puta većoj od obnovljive.
15:47
And by the way, if you add the projections for nuclear on here,
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Inače, ako biste ovde dodali predviđanja i za nuklearnu energiju,
15:51
particularly if you assume that the work many are doing
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naročito ako pretpostavimo posao koji mnogi rade
15:54
to try to break through to safer and more acceptable,
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u pokušajima da se probiju do bezbednije i prihvatljivije
15:57
more affordable forms of nuclear,
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i dostupnije oblike nuklearne energije,
15:58
this could change even more dramatically.
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ovo bi moglo da se promeni još dramatičnije.
16:01
So is there any precedent for such a rapid adoption
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Dakle, da li postoji ikakav presedan za tako brzo usvajanje
16:04
of a new technology?
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nove tehnologije?
16:06
Well, there are many, but let's look at cell phones.
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Postoje mnogi, ali hajde da pogledamo mobilne telefone.
16:09
In 1980, AT&T, then Ma Bell,
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Godine 1980. AT&T pa onda Ma Bell, angažovali su MekKinsija
16:12
commissioned McKinsey to do a global market survey
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da uradi globalno marketinško istraživanje
16:14
of those clunky new mobile phones that appeared then.
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onih budžastih novih mobilnih telefona koji su se tada pojavili.
16:18
"How many can we sell by the year 2000?" they asked.
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"Koliko možemo da ih prodamo do 2000. godine?" pitali su.
16:21
McKinsey came back and said, "900,000."
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MekKinsi im je odgovorio "900.000".
16:24
And sure enough, when the year 2000 arrived,
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I svakako, kad je došla 2000. godina,
16:26
they did sell 900,000 -- in the first three days.
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oni jesu prodali 900.000 - u prva tri dana.
16:29
And for the balance of the year, they sold 120 times more.
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Na godišnjem bilansu, prodali su 120 puta više.
16:33
And now there are more cell connections than there are people in the world.
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I sada postoji više mobilnih veza nego što postoji ljudi na svetu.
16:37
So, why were they not only wrong, but way wrong?
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Zašto su, ne samo pogrešili, nego toliko pogrešili?
16:41
I've asked that question myself, "Why?"
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Pita sam se i sam, "Zašto?"
16:44
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
16:45
And I think the answer is in three parts.
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I mislim da je odgovor u tri dela.
16:48
First, the cost came down much faster than anybody expected,
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Prvo, troškovi su se smanjili mnogo više nego što je bilo ko očekivao,
16:51
even as the quality went up.
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čak i kada je kvalitet rastao.
16:54
And low-income countries, places that did not have a landline grid --
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I države sa niskim prihodom, mesta koja nisu imala
pokrivenost fiksne telefonije - preskočila su na novu tehnologiju.
16:58
they leap-frogged to the new technology.
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17:00
The big expansion has been in the developing counties.
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Velika ekspanzija je bila u zemljama u razvoju.
17:03
So what about the electricity grids in the developing world?
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Pa šta je onda sa električnom pokrivenošću u zemljama u razvoju?
17:07
Well, not so hot.
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Pa, nije baš aktuelna.
17:09
And in many areas, they don't exist.
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I u mnogim oblastima, ne postoji.
17:11
There are more people without any electricity at all in India
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U Indiji postoji više ljudi bez ikakve električne energije
17:14
than the entire population of the United States of America.
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nego cela populacija Sjedinjenih Američkih Država.
17:17
So now we're getting this:
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I tako dobijamo ovo:
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solar panels on grass huts
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solarne panele na kolibama od trske
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and new business models that make it affordable.
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i nove poslovne modele kojima su one dostupne.
17:24
Muhammad Yunus financed this one in Bangladesh with micro-credit.
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Muhamed Junus je finansirao ovu u Bangladešu sa mikro-kreditom.
17:29
This is a village market.
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Ovo je seoska pijaca.
17:30
Bangladesh is now the fastest-deploying country in the world:
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Bangladeš je sada država najbržeg razvitka u svetu:
17:33
two systems per minute on average, night and day.
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dva sistema u minuti, u proseku, noć i dan.
17:36
And we have all we need:
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I imamo sve što nam je potrebno:
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enough energy from the Sun comes to the earth
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dovoljno sunčane energije dolazi do Zemlje
17:39
every hour to supply the full world's energy needs for an entire year.
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svakog sata, da snabde celokupnu energiju sveta za jednu celu godinu.
17:45
It's actually a little bit less than an hour.
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Zapravo je malo manje od jednog sata.
17:47
So the answer to the second question, "Can we change?"
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Tako da odgovor na drugo pitanje "Da li možemo da se menjamo?"
17:50
is clearly "Yes."
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je očigledno "Da".
17:52
And it's an ever-firmer "yes."
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I to je najjače do sada "Da".
17:55
Last question, "Will we change?"
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Poslednje pitanje, "Da li ćemo se promeniti?"
17:58
Paris really was a breakthrough,
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Pariz je zaista bio prodor,
18:00
some of the provisions are binding
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neke od odredbi su obavezujuće
18:01
and the regular reviews will matter a lot.
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i redovni izveštaji će mnogo značiti.
18:03
But nations aren't waiting, they're going ahead.
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Ali nacije ne čekaju, one idu napred.
18:06
China has already announced that starting next year,
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Kina je već najavila da će od početka sledeće godine
18:08
they're adopting a nationwide cap and trade system.
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usvojiti sistem "trgovine zagađenjem" širom države.
18:11
They will likely link up with the European Union.
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Verovatno će se spojiti sa Evropskom Unijom.
18:14
The United States has already been changing.
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Sjedinjene Države se već menjaju.
18:17
All of these coal plants were proposed
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Sve ove fabrike na ugalj koje su bile predviđene
18:19
in the next 10 years and canceled.
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u narednih 10 godina su otkazane.
18:21
All of these existing coal plants were retired.
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Sve ove postojeće fabrike na ugalj su se povukle.
18:24
All of these coal plants have had their retirement announced.
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Sve ove fabrike na ugalj su najavile povlačenje.
18:27
All of them -- canceled.
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Sve - otkazane.
18:30
We are moving forward.
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Idemo napred.
18:31
Last year -- if you look at all of the investment
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Ako pogledate sve prošlogodišnje investicije
18:34
in new electricity generation in the United States,
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u nove električne generacije u Sjedinjenim Državama,
18:37
almost three-quarters was from renewable energy,
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skoro tri četvrtine su bile u obnovljive energije,
18:39
mostly wind and solar.
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uglavnom vetar i sunce.
18:42
We are solving this crisis.
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Rešavamo krizu.
18:45
The only question is: how long will it take to get there?
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Jedino je pitanje: koliko će nam trebati da dođemo do toga?
18:50
So, it matters that a lot of people are organizing
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Stoga je veoma važno što se ljudi organizuju
18:55
to insist on this change.
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da insistiraju na ovoj promeni.
18:57
Almost 400,000 people marched in New York City
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Skoro 400.000 ljudi je marširalo gradom Njujorka
19:01
before the UN special session on this.
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pre nego što je počela specijalna sesija UN-a o ovome.
19:04
Many thousands, tens of thousands,
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Mnogo stotina, desetine stotina,
19:06
marched in cities around the world.
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marširali su gradovima širom sveta.
19:08
And so, I am extremely optimistic.
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I zato sam ekstremno optimističan.
19:13
As I said before, we are going to win this.
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Kao što sam rekao ranije, uspećemo u tome.
19:15
I'll finish with this story.
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Završiću ovom pričom.
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When I was 13 years old,
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Kada sam imao 13 godina,
19:20
I heard that proposal by President Kennedy
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čuo sam predlog predsednika Kenedija
19:24
to land a person on the Moon and bring him back safely
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da iskrcaju osobu na Mesec i da je bezbedno vrate,
19:26
in 10 years.
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kroz 10 godina.
19:28
And I heard adults of that day and time say,
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I čuo sam odrasle u to vreme kako govore,
19:31
"That's reckless, expensive, may well fail."
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"To je nesmotreno, skupo, verovatno će propasti."
19:34
But eight years and two months later,
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Ali osam godina i dva meseca kasnije,
19:36
in the moment that Neil Armstrong set foot on the Moon,
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u trenutku kada je Nil Armstrong zakoračio na Mesec,
19:40
there was great cheer that went up in NASA's mission control in Houston.
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bilo je veliko klicanje u Nasinom kontrolnom centru u Hjustonu.
19:44
Here's a little-known fact about that:
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Evo jedne manje poznate činjenice u vezi sa tim:
19:47
the average age of the systems engineers,
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prosečna starost sistemskih inženjera,
19:49
the controllers in the room that day, was 26,
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kontrolora u toj prostoriji tog dana, je bila 26,
19:52
which means, among other things,
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što znači da, između ostalog,
19:54
their age, when they heard that challenge, was 18.
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kada su čuli taj izazov, imali su 18 godina.
19:57
We now have a moral challenge
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Sada imamo moralni izazov
20:00
that is in the tradition of others that we have faced.
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koji je u tradiciji sa ostalima sa kojima smo se susreli.
20:04
One of the greatest poets of the last century in the US,
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Jedan od najvećih pesnika prošlog veka u Sjedinjenim Državama
20:07
Wallace Stevens,
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Volas Stivens,
20:09
wrote a line that has stayed with me:
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napisao je stih koji je i dalje u meni:
20:11
"After the final 'no,' there comes a 'yes,'
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"Nakon konačnog "ne", dolazi "da",
20:13
and on that 'yes', the future world depends."
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i od tog "da", budući svet zavisi."
20:16
When the abolitionists started their movement,
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Kada su abolicionisti osnovali svoj pokret,
20:18
they met with no after no after no.
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susreli su se sa ne nakon ne nakon ne.
20:21
And then came a yes.
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I onda je došlo da.
20:22
The Women's Suffrage and Women's Rights Movement
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Pravo glasa žena i Desničarski pokret žena
20:24
met endless no's, until finally, there was a yes.
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beskrajno se sreo sa ne dok konačno nije bilo da.
20:28
The Civil Rights Movement, the movement against apartheid,
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Pokret prava građana, pokret protiv rasne diskriminacije,
20:31
and more recently, the movement for gay and lesbian rights
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i skorašnji, pokret za prava gejeva i lezbejki
20:34
here in the United States and elsewhere.
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ovde u Sjedinjenim Državama i drugde.
20:37
After the final "no" comes a "yes."
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Posle konačnog "ne" dolazi "da".
20:39
When any great moral challenge is ultimately resolved
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Kada se bilo koji moralni izazov na kraju razloži
20:44
into a binary choice between what is right and what is wrong,
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u binarni izbor između toga šta je ispravno, a šta pogrešno
20:48
the outcome is fore-ordained because of who we are as human beings.
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rezultat je predodređen zbog toga ko smo mi kao ljudska bića.
20:52
Ninety-nine percent of us, that is where we are now
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Nas 99%; zato smo tu gde smo sada
20:56
and it is why we're going to win this.
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i zato ćemo uspeti u tome.
20:59
We have everything we need.
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Imamo sve što nam je potrebno.
21:01
Some still doubt that we have the will to act,
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Neki još uvek sumnjaju da imamo volje da delamo,
21:04
but I say the will to act is itself a renewable resource.
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ali ja kažem da je sama volja za delovanjem obnovljiv izvor.
21:09
Thank you very much.
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Hvala vam mnogo.
21:10
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
21:47
Chris Anderson: You've got this incredible combination of skills.
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Kris Anderson: Imate neverovatnu kombinaciju veština.
21:50
You've got this scientist mind that can understand
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Imate um naučnika za razumevanje
21:53
the full range of issues,
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celog spektra problema,
21:55
and the ability to turn it into the most vivid language.
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i sposobnost da ih pretvorite u najživopisniji jezik.
21:59
No one else can do that, that's why you led this thing.
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Niko drugi to ne može, zato vi to predvodite.
22:02
It was amazing to see it 10 years ago, it was amazing to see it now.
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Bilo je neverovatno videti to pre 10 godina, a i sada.
22:05
Al Gore: Well, you're nice to say that, Chris.
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Al Gor: Pa, zaista lepe reči, Kris.
22:08
But honestly, I have a lot of really good friends
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Ali iskreno, imam mnogo zaista dobrih prijatelja
22:11
in the scientific community who are incredibly patient
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u naučnoj zajednici koji su neverovatno strpljivi
22:14
and who will sit there and explain this stuff to me
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i koji će sedeti tu i objasniti mi te stvari
22:17
over and over and over again
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iznova i iznova
22:19
until I can get it into simple enough language
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dok ih ne prevedem u dovoljno jednostavan jezik
22:22
that I can understand it.
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koji mogu da razumem.
22:23
And that's the key to trying to communicate.
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I to je ključ u pokušavanju komuniciranja.
22:27
CA: So, your talk. First part: terrifying,
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KA: Dakle, Vaš govor. Prvi deo: prestravljujući,
22:31
second part: incredibly hopeful.
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drugi deo: neverovatno obećavajući.
22:33
How do we know that all those graphs, all that progress, is enough
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Kako da znamo da su svi ti grafikoni, sav taj napredak - dovoljni
22:39
to solve what you showed in the first part?
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da reše ono što ste pokazali u prvom delu?
22:41
AG: I think that the crossing --
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AG: Mislim da je ukrštanje -
22:45
you know, I've only been in the business world for 15 years.
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znate, u poslovnom svetu sam 15 godina.
22:48
But one of the things I've learned is that apparently it matters
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Ali jedna stvar koju sam naučio je da je očigledno bitno
22:51
if a new product or service is more expensive
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ako je nov proizvod, ili usluga, skuplji
22:54
than the incumbent, or cheaper than.
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od zvaničnog, ili jeftiniji od njega.
22:57
Turns out, it makes a difference if it's cheaper than.
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Ispostavilo se da ima razlike ako je jeftiniji.
22:59
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
23:00
And when it crosses that line,
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I kada pređe tu granicu,
23:03
then a lot of things really change.
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onda se mnoge stvari promene.
23:05
We are regularly surprised by these developments.
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Redovno se iznenađujemo ovakvim razvojima.
23:08
The late Rudi Dornbusch, the great economist said,
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Pokojni Rudi Dornbuš, veliki ekonomista, je rekao:
23:11
"Things take longer to happen then you think they will,
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"Stvarima je potrebno više vremena da se dese, nego što mislite,
23:13
and then they happen much faster than you thought they could."
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a onda se dese mnogo brže nego što ste mislili da mogu."
23:16
I really think that's where we are.
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Zaista mislim da smo i mi tu.
23:18
Some people are using the phrase "The Solar Singularity" now,
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Neki ljudi sada koriste frazu "solarna jedinstvenost"
23:22
meaning when it gets below the grid parity,
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misleći da, kada dospemo ispod mrežnog pariteta,
23:25
unsubsidized in most places,
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nesubvencionisani u većini mesta,
23:27
then it's the default choice.
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to je jedini izbor.
23:29
Now, in one of the presentations yesterday, the jitney thing,
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U jednoj prezentaciji juče, priča oko taksista,
23:35
there is an effort to use regulations to slow this down.
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postoje napori da se koriste propisi kako bi se ovo usporilo.
23:40
And I just don't think it's going to work.
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Ali ja mislim da to neće uspeti.
23:44
There's a woman in Atlanta, Debbie Dooley,
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Jedna žena u Atlanti, Debi Duli,
23:47
who's the Chairman of the Atlanta Tea Party.
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je predsedavajuća partije "Atlanta Tea".
23:49
They enlisted her in this effort to put a tax
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Nju su zadužili, u tim naporima,
23:51
on solar panels and regulations.
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da uvede takse i propise na solarne panele.
23:53
And she had just put solar panels on her roof
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Pri tom je i sama postavila solarne panele na svoj krov
23:55
and she didn't understand the request.
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i nije razumela šta se od nje traži.
23:57
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
23:59
And so she went and formed an alliance with the Sierra Club
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Pa je tako formirala udruženje sa klubom Siera
24:02
and they formed a new organization called the Green Tea Party.
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i oni su osnovali novu organizaciju pod nazivom "Green Tea".
24:06
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
24:07
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
24:08
And they defeated the proposal.
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I oni su poništili predlog.
24:10
So, finally, the answer to your question is,
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I konačno, odgovor na Vaše pitanje je,
24:13
this sounds a little corny and maybe it's a cliché,
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ovo zvuči malo otrcano i možda je i kliše,
24:16
but 10 years ago -- and Christiana referred to this --
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ali pre 10 godina - i Kristijana je ovo spomenula -
24:20
there are people in this audience who played an incredibly significant role
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bilo je ljudi u ovoj publici koji su imali neverovatno značajnu ulogu
24:26
in generating those exponential curves.
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u dobijanju onih eksponencijalnih krivih.
24:29
And it didn't work out economically for some of them,
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I nekima nije uspelo ekonomski,
24:31
but it kick-started this global revolution.
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ali se pokrenula globalna revolucija.
24:34
And what people in this audience do now
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Ali šta će ljudi u ovoj publici
24:38
with the knowledge that we are going to win this.
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uraditi sada sa saznanjem da ćemo uspeti u tome.
24:41
But it matters a lot how fast we win it.
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Ali veoma je važno koliko brzo ćemo uspeti.
24:45
CA: Al Gore, that was incredibly powerful.
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KA: Al, ovo je bilo izuzetno jako.
24:47
If this turns out to be the year,
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Ako se ispostavi da je ovo godina
24:49
that the partisan thing changes,
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kada će se promeniti pitanje stranaka,
24:52
as you said, it's no longer a partisan issue,
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kao što ste rekli, nije više pitanje stranaka,
24:55
but you bring along people from the other side together,
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i dovodite ljude sa druge strane, takođe,
24:59
backed by science, backed by these kinds of investment opportunities,
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sa naučnom potkovanošću,
koji su podržani ovakvim investicionim prilikama,
25:03
backed by reason that you win the day --
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predznanjem da ćete uspeti -
25:05
boy, that's really exciting.
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kako je to samo uzbudljivo.
25:07
Thank you so much.
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Hvala Vam mnogo.
25:08
AG: Thank you so much for bringing me back to TED.
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AG: Hvala Vama mnogo što ste me doveli ponovo na TED.
25:11
Thank you!
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Hvala!
25:12
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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