Why we need gender-neutral bathrooms | Ivan Coyote

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Prevodilac: Sonja Cuturilo Lektor: Mile Živković
00:12
There are a few things that all of us need.
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Postoji par stvari koje su nam svima potrebne.
00:17
We all need air to breathe.
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Svima nam treba vazduh da bismo disali.
00:21
We need clean water to drink.
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Treba nam čista voda za piće.
00:23
We need food to eat. We need shelter and love.
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Treba nam hrana da bismo jeli. Treba nam sklonište i ljubav.
00:26
You know. Love is great, too.
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Znate. Ljubav je takođe sjajna.
00:30
And we all need a safe place to pee.
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I svima nam treba sigurno mesto da obavimo nuždu.
00:33
(Laughter) Yeah?
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(Smeh) Je l' da?
00:35
As a trans person who doesn't fit neatly into the gender binary,
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Kao trans osoba koja se ne uklapa sjajno u podelu između dva pola,
00:39
if I could change the world tomorrow
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kada bih sutra mogao da promenim svet
00:43
to make it easier for me to navigate,
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da bi mi bilo lakše da upravljam,
00:45
the very first thing I would do
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prva stvar koju bih uradio je,
00:47
is blink and create single stall, gender-neutral bathrooms
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u treptaju oka stvorio bih rodno neutralne toalete sa jednom kabinom,
00:52
in all public places.
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na svim javnim mestima.
00:54
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
01:01
Trans people and trans issues,
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Trans osobe i trans problemi,
01:03
they've been getting a lot of mainstream media attention lately.
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u poslednje vreme dobijaju mnogo pažnje od strane vodećih medija.
01:07
And this is a great and necessary thing,
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I ovo je sjajna i neophodna stvar,
01:10
but most of that attention has been focused
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ali većina te pažnje je fokusirana
01:12
on a very few individuals,
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na veoma malo pojedinaca,
01:15
most of whom are kinda rich
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od kojih je većina nekako bogata
01:17
and pretty famous,
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i prilično poznata,
01:19
and probably don't have to worry that much anymore about where they're going to pee
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i verovatno ne moraju više toliko da brinu gde će vršiti nuždu
01:23
in between classes at their community college,
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između predavanja na lokalnom koledžu,
01:25
or where they're going to get changed into their gym strip
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ili gde će da se presvuku u opremu za fizičko vaspitanje
01:28
at their public high school.
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u svojoj srednjoj školi.
01:29
Fame and money insulates these television star trans people
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Slava i novac izoluju ove TV zvezde, trans osobe
01:36
from most of the everyday challenges
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od većine svakodnevnih izazova
01:39
that the rest of us have to tackle on a daily basis.
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sa kojima mi ostali moramo da se borimo svaki dan.
01:46
Public bathrooms.
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Javni toaleti.
01:49
They've been a problem for me since as far back as I can remember,
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Predstavljali su mi problem od kad se sećam,
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first when I was just a little baby tomboy
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prvo kada sam bio samo mala muškarača
01:57
and then later as a masculine-appearing, predominantly estrogen-based organism.
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i onda kasnije muškarasto biće većinom zasnovano na estrogenu.
02:03
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:04
Now, today as a trans person, public bathrooms and change rooms
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Sada, danas kao trans osoba, javni toaleti i svlačionice
02:09
are where I am most likely to be questioned or harassed.
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su mesta gde će me najverovatnije ispitivati ili uznemiravati.
02:14
I've often been verbally attacked behind their doors.
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Često su me verbalno napadali iza tih vrata.
02:17
I've been hauled out by security guards with my pants still halfway pulled up.
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Čuvari su me izbacivali sa pantalonama i dalje na pola.
02:22
I've been stared at, screamed at, whispered about,
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U mene su buljili, vikali, šaputali su o meni,
02:24
and one time I got smacked in the face by a little old lady's purse
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i jednom sam dobio udarac u lice torbicom male starice
02:29
that from the looks of the shiner I took home that day
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koja je po izgledu masnice koju sam poneo kući taj dan
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I am pretty certain contained at least 70 dollars of rolled up small change
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sigurno sadržala bar 70 dolara umotanog sitniša
02:35
and a large hard candy collection.
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i hrpu tvrdih bombona.
02:37
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:40
And I know what some of you are thinking,
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I znam šta neki od vas misle,
02:44
and you're mostly right.
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i većinom ste u pravu.
02:47
I can and do just use the men's room most of the time these days.
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Mogu i koristim muški toalet većinom vremena ovih dana.
02:54
But that doesn't solve my change room dilemmas, does it?
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Ali to ne rešava moju dilemu oko svlačionica, zar ne?
02:59
And I shouldn't have to use the men's room because I'm not a man.
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I ne bi trebalo da moram da koristim muški toalet jer nisam muškarac.
03:05
I'm a trans person.
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Ja sam trans osoba.
03:08
And now we've got these fearmongering politicians
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I sada imamo ove političare koji uteruju strah,
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that keep trying to pass these bathroom bills.
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koji pokušavaju da provuku ove zakone za toalete.
03:14
Have you heard about these?
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Da li ste čuli za ovo?
03:15
They try to legislate to try and force people like myself
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Pokušavaju da ozakone i nateraju ljude poput mene
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to use the bathroom that they deem most appropriate
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da koriste toalet koji oni smatraju najprikladnijim
03:23
according to the gender I was assigned at birth.
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prema polu koji mi je dodeljen rođenjem.
03:25
And if these politicians ever get their way,
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I ako ovi političari ikada dobiju po svome,
03:29
in Arizona or California or Florida
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u Arizoni ili Kaliforniji ili Floridi
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or just last week in Houston, Texas,
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ili baš prošle nedelje u Hjustonu u Teksasu
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or Ottawa,
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ili Otavi,
03:36
well then, using the men's room will not be a legal option for me either.
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e pa, ni korišćenje muškog toaleta neće biti legalna opcija za mene.
03:43
And every time one of these politicians brings one of these bills to the table,
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I svaki put kada neki od političara donese ovakav zakon na diskusiju,
03:47
I can't help but wonder, you know,
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ne mogu a da se ne zapitam, znate,
03:49
just who will and exactly how would we go about enforcing laws like these. Right?
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ko će to i kako tačno sprovoditi ovakve zakone. Zar ne?
03:56
Panty checks?
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Provera gaćica?
03:57
Really.
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Stvarno.
03:59
Genital inspections outside of bath change rooms at public pools?
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Provera genitalija ispred svlačionica na javnim bazenima?
04:06
There's no legal or ethical or plausible way
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Ne postoji legalan ili etički ili razuman način
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to enforce laws like these anyway.
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da se ipak sprovode ovakvi zakoni.
04:14
They exist only to foster fear
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Postoje samo da bi uterali strah
04:17
and promote transphobia.
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i podržavali transfobiju.
04:21
They don't make anyone safer.
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Ne čine nikoga sigurnijim.
04:24
But they do for sure make the world more dangerous for some of us.
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Ali zasigurno čine svet opasnijim za neke od nas.
04:28
And meanwhile, our trans children suffer.
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A u međuvremenu, naša trans deca pate.
04:31
They drop out of school, or they opt out of life altogether.
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Napuštaju škole, ili uopšteno odustaju od života.
04:36
Trans people, especially trans and gender-nonconforming youth
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Trans ljudi, posebno trans i rodno neodređena omladina
04:41
face additional challenges when accessing pools and gyms,
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suočava se sa dodatnim izazovima kada idu na bazene ili teretane,
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but also universities,
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ali takođe i univerzitete,
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hospitals, libraries.
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bolnice, biblioteke.
04:52
Don't even get me started on how they treat us in airports.
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Nemojte ni da počinjem o tome kako nas tretiraju na aerodromu.
04:57
If we don't move now
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Ako se sada ne pokrenemo
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to make sure that these places
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da obezbedimo da su ova mesta
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are truly open and accessible to everyone,
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zaista otvorena i pristupačna svima,
05:06
then we just need to get honest
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onda samo moramo biti iskreni
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and quit calling them public places.
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i prestati da ih zovemo javnim mestima.
05:13
We need to just admit
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Moramo samo da priznamo
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that they are really only open for people
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da su ona zaista otvorena samo ljudima
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who fit neatly into one of two gender boxes,
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koji se savršeno uklapaju u jednu od polnih grupa,
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which I do not.
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što kod mene nije slučaj.
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I never have.
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Nikada nije bio.
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And this starts very early.
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I ovo počinje veoma rano.
05:35
I know a little girl. She's the daughter of a friend of mine.
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Poznajem jednu malu devojčicu. Ona je ćerka moje prijateljice.
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She's a self-identified tomboy.
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Ona je samoidentifikovana muškarača.
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I'm talking about cowboy boots
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Pričam o kaubojskim čizmama
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and Caterpillar yellow toy trucks and bug jars, the whole nine yards.
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i Caterpillar žutim kamiončićima i teglama za bube, od glave do pete.
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One time I asked her what her favorite color was.
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Jednom sam je pitao koja joj je omiljena boja.
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She told me, "Camouflage."
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Rekla mi je, "kamuflaža".
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:57
So that awesome little kid,
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I to sjajno malo dete,
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she came home from school last October
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došla je kući iz škole prošlog oktobra
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from her half day of preschool
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sa pola dana u predškolskom
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with soggy pants on because the other kids at school were harassing her
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sa vlažnim pantalonama jer su je druga deca u školi zlostavljala
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when she tried to use the girls' bathroom.
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kada je pokušala da uđe u ženski toalet.
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And the teacher had already instructed her to stay out of the boys' bathroom.
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A učitelj joj je već rekao da ne ulazi u muški toalet.
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And she had drank two glasses of that red juice
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I popila je dve čaše tog crvenog soka
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at the Halloween party,
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na žurci za Noć veštica,
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and I mean, who can resist that red juice, right? It's so good.
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i mislim, ko može da odoli tom crvenom soku, zar ne? Tako je dobar.
06:27
And she couldn't hold her pee any longer.
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I više nije mogla da izdrži da ne ide u toalet.
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Her and her classmates were four years old.
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Ona i njeni školski drugari su imali četiri godine.
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They already felt empowered enough
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Već su se osećali dovoljno moćnima
06:37
to police her use of the so-called public bathrooms.
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da nadgledaju upotrebu takozvanih javnih toaleta.
06:44
She was four years old.
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Imala je četiri godine.
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She had already been taught the brutal lesson
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Već je naučila brutalnu lekciju
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that there was no bathroom door at preschool
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da ne postoje vrata od toaleta u predškolskom
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with a sign on it that welcomed people like her.
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sa znakom koji dočekuje ljude poput nje.
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She'd already learned that bathrooms were going to be a problem,
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Već je naučila da će toaleti biti problem,
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and that problem started with her
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i taj je problem počeo sa njom
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and was hers alone.
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i bio je samo njen.
07:10
So my friend asked me to talk to her little daughter,
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Tako me je prijateljica pitala da pričam sa njenom ćerkicom,
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and I did.
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i tako i jesam.
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I wanted to tell her
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Želeo sam da joj kažem
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that me and her mom were going to march on down
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da ćemo ja i njena mama da odemo
07:21
and talk to that school, and the problem was going to go away,
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da pričamo sa tom školom, i da će problem da nestane,
07:24
but I knew that wasn't true.
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ali znao sam da to nije istina.
07:25
I wanted to tell her that it was all going to get better when she got older,
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Želeo sam da joj kažem da će sve biti bolje kad poraste,
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but I couldn't.
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ali nisam mogao.
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So I asked her to tell me the story of what had happened,
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Pa sam je pitao da mi ispriča priču o tome što se desilo,
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asked her to tell me how it made her feel.
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pitao sam da mi kaže kako se zbog toga osećala.
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"Mad and sad,"
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"Ljuto i tužno",
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she told me.
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rekla mi je.
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So I told her
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Onda sam ja njoj rekao
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that she wasn't alone
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da nije sama
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and that it wasn't right what had happened to her,
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i da nije u redu to što joj se dogodilo,
07:53
and then she asked me if I had ever peed in my pants before.
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i onda me je pitala da li sam se ja ikada upiškio.
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I said yes, I had,
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Rekao sam da, jesam,
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but not for a really long time.
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ali pre mnogo vremena.
08:03
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:04
Which of course was a lie,
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Što je naravno bila laž,
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because you know how you hit, like, 42 or 43,
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jer znate, kako napunite, recimo, 42 ili 43,
08:09
and sometimes you just, I don't know, you pee a little bit
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i nekada jednostavno, ne znam, malo piškite
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when you cough or sneeze,
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kada kašljete ili kinete,
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when you're running upstairs, or you're stretching.
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kada trčite uz stepenice, ili kada se istežete.
08:17
Don't lie.
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Ne lažite.
08:18
It happens. Right?
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Dešava se. Zar ne?
08:20
She doesn't need to know that, I figure.
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Ona to ne mora da zna, mislio sam.
08:22
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:25
I told her, when you get older, your bladder is going to grow bigger, too.
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Rekao sam joj, kada budeš starija, tvoja bešika će takođe narasti.
08:31
When you get old like me,
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Kada budeš stara kao ja,
08:32
you're going to be able to hold your pee for way longer,
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moći ćeš mnogo duže da izdržiš da ne piškiš.
08:36
I promised her.
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Obećao sam joj.
08:39
"Until you can get home?"
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"Dok ne stigneš kući?"
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she asked me.
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pitala me je.
08:44
I said, "Yes,
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Rekao sam: "Da,
08:48
until you can get home."
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dok ne stigneš kući".
08:52
She seemed to take some comfort in that.
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Činilo se kao da je našla malo utehe u tome.
08:58
So let's just build some single stall, gender-neutral bathrooms
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Hajde da napravimo rodno neutralan toalet sa jednom kabinom
09:04
with a little bench for getting changed into your gym clothes.
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sa malom klupom za presvlačenje u odeću za teretanu.
09:08
We can't change the world overnight
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Ne možemo preko noći da promenimo svet
09:12
for our children,
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za našu decu,
09:13
but we can give them a safe and private place
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ali možemo da im pružimo sigurno i privatno mesto
09:16
to escape that world,
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da pobegnu iz tog sveta,
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if only for just a minute.
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makar samo na minut.
09:22
This we can do.
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Ovo možemo da uradimo.
09:25
So let's just do it.
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Pa hajde samo da uradimo to.
09:27
And if you are one of those people who is sitting out there right now
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I ako ste jedan od tih ljudi koji upravo sede tamo negde
09:31
already coming up with a list of reasons in your head why this is not a priority,
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i već smišljaju listu razloga u svojim glavama zašto ovo nije prioritet,
09:35
or it's too expensive,
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ili je previše skupo,
09:37
or telling yourself that giving a trans person a safe place to pee
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ili govorite sebi da pružanjem trans osobi sigurnog mesta za nuždu
09:41
or get changed in
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ili za presvlačenje
09:42
supports a lifestyle choice that you feel offends your morality,
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podržavate način života za koji smatrate da vređa vaš moral,
09:48
or your masculinity,
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ili vašu muškost,
09:50
or your religious beliefs,
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ili vaša religijska uverenja,
09:52
then let me just appeal
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onda mi dopustite samo da se obratim
09:54
to the part of your heart that probably, hopefully,
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delu vašeg srca koji verovatno, nadam se,
09:59
does care about the rest of the population.
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brine o ostatku populacije.
10:03
If you can't bring yourself to care enough about people like me,
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Ako ne možete da se naterate da vam bude stalo do ljudi poput mene,
10:09
then what about women and girls
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šta je onda sa ženama i devojkama
10:12
with body image issues?
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sa problemima sa izgledom svog tela?
10:14
What about anyone with body image stuff going on?
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Šta je sa bilo kim ko ima problem sa izgledom tela?
10:19
What about that boy at school who is a foot shorter than his classmates,
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Šta je sa dečakom u školi koji je za glavu niži od svojih drugara,
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whose voice still hasn't dropped yet? Hey?
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čiji glas još nije postao dubok? Hej?
10:28
Oh, grade eight,
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Oh, osmi razredu,
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what a cruel master you can be.
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kako okrutan učitelj možeš da budeš.
10:34
Right?
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Zar ne?
10:35
What about people with anxiety issues?
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Šta je sa anksioznim ljudima?
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What about people with disabilities or who need assistance in there?
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Šta je sa ljudima sa smetnjama ili kojima je potrebna pomoć?
10:43
What about folks with bodies who, for whatever reason,
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Šta je sa narodom sa telima koja se, zbog nekog razloga,
10:47
don't fit into the mainstream idea of what a body should look like?
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ne uklapaju u većinsku ideju o tome kako telo treba da izgleda?
10:51
How many of us still feel shy
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Koliko nas se još stidi
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or afraid to disrobe in front of our peers,
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ili se boji da se skine ispred naših vršnjaka,
10:58
and how many of us allow that fear
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i koliko je nas koji dozvoljavaju da nas taj strah
11:00
to keep us from something as important
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udalji od nečega važnog
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as physical exercise?
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poput fižičkih vežbi?
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Would all those people not benefit
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Zar ne bi svi ti ljudi bili na dobitku
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from these single stall facilities?
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od ovih zasebnih toaleta?
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We can't change transphobic minds overnight,
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Ne možemo da promenimo transfobične umove tokom noći,
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but we can give everybody
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ali možemo svima da damo
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a place to get changed in
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mesto na kom mogu da se presvuku
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so that we can all get to work
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tako da svi možemo da se bacimo na posao
11:33
making the world safer
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da napravimo svet sigurnijim
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for all of us.
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za sve nas.
11:39
Thank you for listening.
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Hvala što ste slušali.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
11:43
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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