Why we need gender-neutral bathrooms | Ivan Coyote

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翻译人员: Hancheng Li 校对人员: Huazhe Xie
00:12
There are a few things that all of us need.
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有些东西是我们 每个人都必不可少的。
00:17
We all need air to breathe.
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我们需要可以呼吸的空气。
00:21
We need clean water to drink.
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我们需要可以饮用的净水。
00:23
We need food to eat. We need shelter and love.
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我们需要食物, 我们需要居所和他人的关爱。
00:26
You know. Love is great, too.
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对吧?关爱也是很好的东西。
00:30
And we all need a safe place to pee.
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我们还需要一个 可以安全地撒尿的地方。
00:33
(Laughter) Yeah?
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(笑声)是吧?
00:35
As a trans person who doesn't fit neatly into the gender binary,
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作为一个无法很好适应 性别二元论的跨性别者,
00:39
if I could change the world tomorrow
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如果我马上能改变世界,
00:43
to make it easier for me to navigate,
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让自己在其中更加自如,
00:45
the very first thing I would do
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我所做的第一件事,
00:47
is blink and create single stall, gender-neutral bathrooms
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一定是创造不分性别的卫生间隔间,
00:52
in all public places.
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所有的公共场所都要有。
00:54
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
01:01
Trans people and trans issues,
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跨性别者以及跨性别问题,
01:03
they've been getting a lot of mainstream media attention lately.
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最近特别受到主流媒体的关注。
01:07
And this is a great and necessary thing,
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这其实是个很有必要的好事,
01:10
but most of that attention has been focused
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但大多数的关注度却只集中在
01:12
on a very few individuals,
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很少的几个个体身上,
01:15
most of whom are kinda rich
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这些人普遍都挺有钱的,
01:17
and pretty famous,
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而且也挺出名,
01:19
and probably don't have to worry that much anymore about where they're going to pee
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而且可能也不用对 在哪里撒尿这个问题操心太多,
他们不用在社区大学的课堂间穿行,
01:23
in between classes at their community college,
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01:25
or where they're going to get changed into their gym strip
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也不用在公立高中的健身房里
四处找地方换衣服。
01:28
at their public high school.
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01:29
Fame and money insulates these television star trans people
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名与利,让这些电视上的跨性别明星
01:36
from most of the everyday challenges
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不用操心大多数的日常问题,
01:39
that the rest of us have to tackle on a daily basis.
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而这些问题是我们其他跨性别者 天天都必须面对的。
01:46
Public bathrooms.
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公共卫生间。
01:49
They've been a problem for me since as far back as I can remember,
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自从我有记忆以来, 它们就是我要面对的一个问题,
01:53
first when I was just a little baby tomboy
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从很久以前我还是个假小子的时候,
01:57
and then later as a masculine-appearing, predominantly estrogen-based organism.
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到后来变成一个长得像男的, 却被雌性激素所支配的奇特有机体。
02:03
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:04
Now, today as a trans person, public bathrooms and change rooms
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现在,作为一个跨性别者, 公共卫生间和更衣室
02:09
are where I am most likely to be questioned or harassed.
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是我最有可能 受到质疑或被侵害的地方。
02:14
I've often been verbally attacked behind their doors.
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我经常会遭受门后的人的言语攻击。
02:17
I've been hauled out by security guards with my pants still halfway pulled up.
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我曾经在裤子才提起来一半的时候 就被警卫拖出来。
02:22
I've been stared at, screamed at, whispered about,
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我被人盯着看、被人吼、 被人在背后说三道四,
02:24
and one time I got smacked in the face by a little old lady's purse
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还有一次我被一个小老太太 拿手提包甩了一脸。
02:29
that from the looks of the shiner I took home that day
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当我回家看到我的黑眼圈的时候,
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I am pretty certain contained at least 70 dollars of rolled up small change
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我敢打赌那个包里装着 至少70美元的零散硬币,
02:35
and a large hard candy collection.
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还有全套的 Hard Candy牌化妆品。
02:37
(Laughter)
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(笑声)
02:40
And I know what some of you are thinking,
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我知道你们有些人在想什么,
02:44
and you're mostly right.
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而且其实你们挺对的。
02:47
I can and do just use the men's room most of the time these days.
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我现在大部分时候 当然可以直接进男卫生间。
02:54
But that doesn't solve my change room dilemmas, does it?
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但是到了更衣室里 我的情况还是很麻烦,不是吗?
02:59
And I shouldn't have to use the men's room because I'm not a man.
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而且因为我不是一个男人, 所以我其实不应该进男卫生间。
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I'm a trans person.
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我是一个跨性别的人。
03:08
And now we've got these fearmongering politicians
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现在我们又遇到了一些 专门制造恐慌的政治家,
03:12
that keep trying to pass these bathroom bills.
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他们努力让一些 有关卫生间的法案通过。
03:14
Have you heard about these?
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你们听说过吗?
03:15
They try to legislate to try and force people like myself
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他们想要立法, 然后强迫像我这样的人
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to use the bathroom that they deem most appropriate
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使用他们觉得最合适我的卫生间,
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according to the gender I was assigned at birth.
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也就是依据出生时的性别来判断。
03:25
And if these politicians ever get their way,
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这些政治家一旦得逞,
03:29
in Arizona or California or Florida
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不论是在亚利桑那, 还是在加利福尼亚或是佛罗里达,
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or just last week in Houston, Texas,
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或者是上周在德克萨斯州的休斯顿,
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or Ottawa,
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还有渥太华,
03:36
well then, using the men's room will not be a legal option for me either.
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那么好吧,对我来说进男卫生间 都是一个违法的事情了。
03:43
And every time one of these politicians brings one of these bills to the table,
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每次我看到这些政治家 公开提出这样的一个法案,
03:47
I can't help but wonder, you know,
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我就忍不住在思考了,
03:49
just who will and exactly how would we go about enforcing laws like these. Right?
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到底有哪些人会去执行、 还有怎么执行这些法律?对吧?
03:56
Panty checks?
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内裤检查?
03:57
Really.
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开玩笑吧。
03:59
Genital inspections outside of bath change rooms at public pools?
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在公共游泳池的更衣室外面 检查你的生殖器官?
04:06
There's no legal or ethical or plausible way
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根本就没有一种合法的 或者是符合道德的方法
04:10
to enforce laws like these anyway.
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来执行这样的法律。
04:14
They exist only to foster fear
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它们的存在只能造成恐慌,
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and promote transphobia.
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而且让人更歧视跨性别者。
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They don't make anyone safer.
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它们不能让任何人更安全。
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But they do for sure make the world more dangerous for some of us.
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但是它们却让 我们某些人的世界更危险了。
04:28
And meanwhile, our trans children suffer.
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与此同时,跨性别的孩子们在受苦。
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They drop out of school, or they opt out of life altogether.
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他们从学校辍学, 或者干脆就弃世而逃了。
04:36
Trans people, especially trans and gender-nonconforming youth
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跨性别的人,特别是 有性别认知障碍的青少年,
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face additional challenges when accessing pools and gyms,
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当去到游泳池、健身房的时候 要面临更多的挑战,
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but also universities,
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去到大学也是,
04:48
hospitals, libraries.
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还有医院、图书馆等等。
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Don't even get me started on how they treat us in airports.
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千万别跟我提 他们在机场是怎么对待我们的。
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If we don't move now
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如果我们不做出行动,
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to make sure that these places
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去让这些地方
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are truly open and accessible to everyone,
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真正的向每个人公平地开放,
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then we just need to get honest
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那么我们干脆诚实一点,
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and quit calling them public places.
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别叫它们“公共场所”了。
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We need to just admit
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我们只需要承认
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that they are really only open for people
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这些场所只是向那些
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who fit neatly into one of two gender boxes,
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可以按照两种性别归类的那些人开放。
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which I do not.
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而我不属于其中。
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I never have.
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我从来就不是。
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And this starts very early.
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很早以前就不是了。
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I know a little girl. She's the daughter of a friend of mine.
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我认识一个小女孩。 她是我一个朋友的女儿。
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She's a self-identified tomboy.
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她觉得自己是个假小子。
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I'm talking about cowboy boots
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她喜欢的东西,像牛仔靴,
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and Caterpillar yellow toy trucks and bug jars, the whole nine yards.
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还有黄色的卡特彼勒玩具卡车, 装昆虫的罐子之类的东西。
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One time I asked her what her favorite color was.
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有一次我问她最喜欢什么颜色,
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She told me, "Camouflage."
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她回答我说:“迷彩色。”
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So that awesome little kid,
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就是这样一个棒棒的孩子,
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she came home from school last October
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她去年十月从学校回来,
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from her half day of preschool
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在幼儿园待了半天就回来了,
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with soggy pants on because the other kids at school were harassing her
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裤子上都湿漉漉的, 因为当她被逼去女洗手间的时候
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when she tried to use the girls' bathroom.
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学校里其他孩子都在调戏她。
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And the teacher had already instructed her to stay out of the boys' bathroom.
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老师之前已经警告过她 不要进男洗手间。
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And she had drank two glasses of that red juice
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她刚刚才喝完两杯蔓越橘果汁,
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at the Halloween party,
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万圣节派对上的那种,
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and I mean, who can resist that red juice, right? It's so good.
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你们想想看,谁能抵挡那种 果汁的诱惑呢?它味道好极了。
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And she couldn't hold her pee any longer.
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她真的是一刻都憋不住小便了。
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Her and her classmates were four years old.
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她和她的同学那时才四岁。
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They already felt empowered enough
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然而同学们已经觉得能够
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to police her use of the so-called public bathrooms.
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监管她如何使用 所谓“公共卫生间”。
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She was four years old.
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她才四岁啊。
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She had already been taught the brutal lesson
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她那时就已经学到了惨痛的教训,
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that there was no bathroom door at preschool
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幼儿园里没有一个卫生间
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with a sign on it that welcomed people like her.
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门上会挂着一个牌子写着 欢迎像她一样的人。
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She'd already learned that bathrooms were going to be a problem,
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她早就知道卫生间会是一个大问题,
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and that problem started with her
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而且是她所产生的问题,
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and was hers alone.
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也只有她要面对。
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So my friend asked me to talk to her little daughter,
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所以我的朋友请我 去跟她的小女儿好好聊聊,
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and I did.
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我就去了。
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I wanted to tell her
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我很想告诉她,
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that me and her mom were going to march on down
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我和她的妈妈会一起 气冲冲地跑到学校,
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and talk to that school, and the problem was going to go away,
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跟他们交涉, 最终一切问题都会解决的,
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but I knew that wasn't true.
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但我深知这是不可能的事。
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I wanted to tell her that it was all going to get better when she got older,
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我想告诉她,等她长大后 一切都会变得更好的,
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but I couldn't.
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但我说不出口。
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So I asked her to tell me the story of what had happened,
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所以我就问了她事情的经过,
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asked her to tell me how it made her feel.
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然后问她,这件事让她心里怎么想。
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"Mad and sad,"
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“又生气,又难过,”
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she told me.
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她这样告诉我。
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So I told her
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然后我就告诉她,
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that she wasn't alone
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她不是一个人,
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and that it wasn't right what had happened to her,
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在她身上发生的一切 都是不对的,
07:53
and then she asked me if I had ever peed in my pants before.
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然后她就问我, 我以前有没有尿过裤子。
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I said yes, I had,
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我说有啊,当然有,
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but not for a really long time.
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只不过没有一次尿那么多。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:04
Which of course was a lie,
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当然了,这都是骗人的,
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because you know how you hit, like, 42 or 43,
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因为,你们想想看, 你们到了四十二三岁的时候,
08:09
and sometimes you just, I don't know, you pee a little bit
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有时候你们就,怎么说好呢…… 你们咳嗽、打喷嚏的时候
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when you cough or sneeze,
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就会尿一点点,
08:14
when you're running upstairs, or you're stretching.
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或者是跑上楼梯的时候, 做拉伸运动的时候。
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Don't lie.
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不要撒谎。
08:18
It happens. Right?
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你们都做过这种事,对吧?
08:20
She doesn't need to know that, I figure.
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我猜我都不用告诉她, 她自己早知道了。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
08:25
I told her, when you get older, your bladder is going to grow bigger, too.
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我告诉她,等你长大了, 你的膀胱也会长大的。
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When you get old like me,
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等你像我一样年纪,
08:32
you're going to be able to hold your pee for way longer,
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你憋尿的时间就可以长很多了。
08:36
I promised her.
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我向她这样保证。
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"Until you can get home?"
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“能憋到回家吗?”
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she asked me.
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她这样问我。
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I said, "Yes,
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我说,“是的,
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until you can get home."
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能憋到回家的。”
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She seemed to take some comfort in that.
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听到这句话,她似乎感到些许安慰。
08:58
So let's just build some single stall, gender-neutral bathrooms
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所以,让我们设立一些 不分性别的卫生间单间吧,
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with a little bench for getting changed into your gym clothes.
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里面还要放一些小板凳, 让人可以换上健身用的衣服。
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We can't change the world overnight
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我们不能一夜间为我们的下一代
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for our children,
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而改变世界,
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but we can give them a safe and private place
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但是我们能做的 是给他们一个安全私密的地方
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to escape that world,
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来逃避外面的世界,
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if only for just a minute.
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哪怕只是一分钟。
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This we can do.
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这是我们能做到的。
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So let's just do it.
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我们就去做吧。
09:27
And if you are one of those people who is sitting out there right now
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如果你现在就开始苦思冥想,
09:31
already coming up with a list of reasons in your head why this is not a priority,
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在脑海里列举出一大堆理由, 想要说明这件事无足轻重,
09:35
or it's too expensive,
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或者觉得这件事太过昂贵,
09:37
or telling yourself that giving a trans person a safe place to pee
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又或者觉得,给一个跨性别者 一个可以安全地撒尿的地方
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or get changed in
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或者是换衣服的地方,
09:42
supports a lifestyle choice that you feel offends your morality,
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这种生活方式会颠覆你的道德观念,
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or your masculinity,
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颠覆你的男子气概,
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or your religious beliefs,
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颠覆你的宗教信仰,
09:52
then let me just appeal
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那么就让我恳求你,
09:54
to the part of your heart that probably, hopefully,
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恳求你心灵里或许仍存的一隅,
09:59
does care about the rest of the population.
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希望能够唤醒其中 对世间大众的关怀之情。
10:03
If you can't bring yourself to care enough about people like me,
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如果你不能说服自己, 对像我这样的人给予足够关怀,
10:09
then what about women and girls
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那么你又怎么对待那些 遭受体象障碍的女性呢?
10:12
with body image issues?
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10:14
What about anyone with body image stuff going on?
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你怎么对待患有体象障碍的所有人?
10:19
What about that boy at school who is a foot shorter than his classmates,
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怎么对待一个学校里的小男生, 他比他同学都矮30厘米,
10:25
whose voice still hasn't dropped yet? Hey?
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而且还没进入变声期?怎么对待?
10:28
Oh, grade eight,
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哦,八年级的时光啊,
10:30
what a cruel master you can be.
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你可真是个残忍的主子啊!
10:34
Right?
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对吧?
10:35
What about people with anxiety issues?
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那些患有焦虑症的人呢?
10:39
What about people with disabilities or who need assistance in there?
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还有那些身患残疾、 需要帮助的人呢?
10:43
What about folks with bodies who, for whatever reason,
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还有一些人的身体,不知什么原因,
10:47
don't fit into the mainstream idea of what a body should look like?
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就是跟一般概念的“身体” 看上去不一样?
10:51
How many of us still feel shy
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我们中还有多少人, 在他人面前脱衣服时
10:54
or afraid to disrobe in front of our peers,
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会感到害羞或恐惧?
10:58
and how many of us allow that fear
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还有多少人因为这种恐惧
11:00
to keep us from something as important
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而不再参加一些重要的日常活动,
11:04
as physical exercise?
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比如说体育锻炼?
11:09
Would all those people not benefit
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这所有人,不都会因为 这些卫生间单间
11:12
from these single stall facilities?
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而受益无穷吗?
11:17
We can't change transphobic minds overnight,
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我们不能一夜间改变 人们对跨性别者的恐惧心理,
11:23
but we can give everybody
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但我们可以给每个人
11:26
a place to get changed in
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提供一个这样的更衣场所,
11:30
so that we can all get to work
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这样,我们就可以一同努力,
11:33
making the world safer
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让我们每个人,
11:36
for all of us.
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享受一个更安全的世界。
11:39
Thank you for listening.
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感谢各位倾听。
11:40
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
11:43
Thank you.
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谢谢。
11:44
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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