Julie Taymor: Spider-Man, The Lion King and life on the creative edge

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Prevodilac: Sonja Rodić Lektor: Mile Živković
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
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["Oedipus Rex"]
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["Kralj Edip"]
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["The Lion King"]
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["Kralj lavova"]
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["Titus"]
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["Tit"]
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["Frida"]
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["Frida"]
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["The Magic Flute"]
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["Čarobna frula"]
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["Across The Universe"]
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["Preko svemira"]
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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Julie Taymor: Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Džuli Tejmor: Hvala. Hvala puno.
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That's a few samples of the theater, opera
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Ovo je bilo nekoliko odlomaka iz predstava, opera
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and films that I have done over the last 20 years.
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i filmova na kojima sam radila u proteklih 20 godina.
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But what I'd like to begin with right now
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Ali želela bih da započnem
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is to take you back to a moment
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tako što ću se vratiti na trenutak
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that I went through in Indonesia,
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koji sam doživela u Indoneziji,
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which is a seminal moment in my life
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koji je ključan trenutak u mom životu
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and, like all myths,
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i, kao i svi mitovi,
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these stories need to be retold
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ove priče treba prepričavati iznova
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and told, lest we forget them.
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i iznova, da ne bi bile zaboravljene.
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And when I'm in the turbulent times, as we know,
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A kada prolazim kroz turbulentan period, kroz koji, kao što svi znamo,
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that I am right now, through the crucible
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prolazim sada, kroz iskušenja
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and the fire of transformation,
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i vatru transformacije,
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which is what all of you do, actually.
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što je ono što svi vi zapravo radite.
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Anybody who creates knows there's that point where
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Svako ko stvara zna da postoji ona tačka u kojoj
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it hasn't quite become the phoenix or the burnt char.
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nešto još uvek nije postalo ni feniks, a ni pepeo.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And I am right there on the edge,
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Ja se nalazim baš tamo, na ivici,
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which I'll tell you about, another story.
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o čemu ću vam govoriti, ali to je druga priča.
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I want to go back to Indonesia
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Želim da se vratim na Indoneziju
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where I was about 21, 22 years, a long time ago,
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gde sam boravila davno, pre jedno 21-22 godine
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on a fellowship.
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kao stipendista.
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And I found myself, after two years there
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Nakon dve godine koje sam provela tamo
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and performing and learning, on the island of Bali,
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u izvođenju performansa i učenju, našla sam se na ostrvu Bali,
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on the edge of a crater, Gunung Batur.
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na ivici kratera Gunung Batur.
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And I was in a village where there was
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Bila sam u selu gde je u toku bio
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an initiation ceremony for the young men,
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obred inicijacije mladića,
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a rite of passage.
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obred prelaska.
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Little did I know that it was mine as well.
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Nisam ni slutila da je bio i moj.
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And as I sat in this temple square
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Dok sam sedela na trgu gde je bio taj hram
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under this gigantic beringin banyan tree,
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ispod jednog ogromnog beringin banjan drveta,
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in the dark, there was no electricity, just the full moon,
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u mraku, nije bilo struje, samo pun mesec,
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down in this empty square,
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dole na tom praznom trgu,
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and I heard the most beautiful sounds,
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i čula sam najdivnije zvukove,
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like a Charles Ives concert
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poput koncerta Čarlsa Ajvsa
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as I listened to the gamelan music
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dok sam slušala gamelan muziku
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from all the different villagers that came
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svih tih raznih seljana koji su došli
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for this once-every-five-years ceremony.
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na ovu ceremoniju koja se održava jednom u pet godina.
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And I thought I was alone in the dark under this tree.
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Mislila sam da sam sama u mraku ispod drveta.
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And all of a sudden, out of the dark,
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Odjednom, iz mraka
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from the other end of the square,
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sa drugog kraja trga
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I saw the glint of mirrors lit by the moon.
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videla sam svetlucanje ogledala koje je osvetljavao mesec.
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And these 20 old men who I'd seen before
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Onih 20 staraca koje sam videla pre toga
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all of a sudden stood up in these full warrior costumes
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su najednom ustali, obučeni od glave do pete u ratničke kostime
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with the headdress and the spears,
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sa šeširima i kopljima.
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and no one was in the square, and I was hidden in the shadows.
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Na trgu nije bilo nikog, a ja sam bila skrivena u senci.
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No one was there, and they came out,
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Nije bilo nikoga, a oni su izašli
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and they did this incredible dance.
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plešući pritom jedan neverovatan ples.
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"Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhahahahaha."
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"Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhahahahaha."
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And they moved their bodies and they came forward,
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Pokretali su svoja tela dok su prilazili,
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and the lights bounced off these costumes.
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svetla su se odbijala od njihovih kostima.
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And I've been in theater since I was 11 years old,
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Ja sam odlazila u pozorište od svoje 11. godine,
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and performing, creating, and I went,
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nastupala, stvarala, i moja reakcija je bila:
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"Who are they performing for
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"Za koga oni prave ovu predstavu
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with these elaborate costumes,
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u ovim raskošnim kostimima,
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these extraordinary headdresses?"
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ovim neverovatnim šeširima?"
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And I realized that they were performing for God,
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Shvatila sam da oni to rade za boga,
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whatever that means.
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šta god to značilo.
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But somehow, it didn't matter about the publicity.
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Ali nekako, publicitet uopšte nije bio bitan.
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There was no money involved.
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Novac nije igrao nikakvu ulogu.
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It wasn't going to be written down. It was no news.
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Niti je to trebalo negde da bude zapisano. To nije bila novost.
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And there were these incredible artists
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Ipak, ovi neverovatni umetnici bili su tu,
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that felt for me like an eternity as they performed.
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a za mene su oni predstavljali večnost dok su izvodili svoju predstavu.
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The next moment,
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Sledećeg trenutka,
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as soon as they finished and disappeared into the shadows,
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čim su završili i nestali u senkama.
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a young man with a propane lantern came on,
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došao je mladić sa propanskim fenjerom,
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hung it up on a tree, set up a curtain.
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obesio ga je na drvo, podigao zavesu.
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The village square was filled with hundreds of people.
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Seoski trg bio je ispunjen stotinama ljudi.
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And they put on an opera all night long.
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I cele noći je na repertoaru bila opera.
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Human beings needed the light.
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Ljudskim bićima bilo je potrebno svetlo.
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They needed the light to see.
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Bila im je neophodna svetlost da bi videli.
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So what I gained and gathered from this incredible,
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Dakle, ono što sam dobila i shvatila iz ovog neverovatnog,
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seminal moment in my life as a young artist
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ključnog momenta u svom životu kao mladi umetnik
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was that you must be true
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je da moraš biti do kraja odan
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to what you believe as an artist all the way through,
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onome u šta veruješ kao umetnik,
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but you also have to be aware
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ali i da moraš biti svestan
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that the audience is out there in our lives at this time,
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da je publika u našim životima uvek tu negde u tim trenucima,
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and they also need the light.
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i da joj je potrebno svetlo.
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And it's this incredible balance
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To je taj neverovatan balans
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that I think that we walk
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u kom se krećemo
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when we are creating something that is breaking ground,
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kada stvaramo nešto revolucionarno,
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that's trying to do something you've never seen before,
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što ima za cilj da postigne nešto do tada neviđeno,
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that imaginary world
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taj imaginarni svet
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where you actually don't know where you're going to end up,
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u kom u stvari ne znate gde ćete završiti,
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that's the fine line on the edge of a crater
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to je fina linija na rubu kratera
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that I have walked my whole life.
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po kojoj hodam celog svog života.
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What I would like to do now is to tell you
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Sada bih želela da vam kažem
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a little bit
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nešto više
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about how I work. Let's take "The Lion King."
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o tome kako ja radim. Uzmimo, na primer "Kralja lavova".
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You saw many examples of my work up there,
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Videli ste mnogo primera mog rada tamo gore,
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but it's one that people know.
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ali to je ono što ljudi vide.
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I start with the notion of the ideograph.
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Krećem od pojma ideograma.
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An ideograph is like a brush painting, a Japanese brush painting.
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Ideogram je poput slike naslikane četkicom, japanske slike.
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Three strokes, you get the whole bamboo forest.
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Tri poteza i dobili ste celu šumu bambusa.
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I go to the concept of "The Lion King"
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Uzmem pojam "Kralj lavova"
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and I say, "What is the essence of it?
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i pomislim, "Šta je srž toga?
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What is the abstraction?
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Šta je apstrakcija?"
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If I were to reduce this entire story
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Ako bi trebalo da sažmem celu priču
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into one image, what would it be?"
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u jednu sliku, šta bi to bilo?"
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The circle. The circle. It's so obvious.
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Krug. Krug. Tako je očigledno.
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The circle of life. The circle of Mufasa's mask.
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Krug života. Krug Mufasine maske.
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The circle that, when we come to Act II and there's a drought,
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Krug koji, kada dođemo do 2. čina i nastane suša
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how do you express drought?
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kako izraziti sušu?
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It's a circle of silk on the floor
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To je jedan krug od svile na podu
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that disappears into the hole in the stage floor.
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koji nestaje u rupu na podu pozornice.
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The circle of life comes in the wheels
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Krug života dolazi u kolima
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of the gazelles that leap.
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gazela koje poskakuju.
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And you see the mechanics.
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Mehanika je vidljiva.
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And being a theater person, what I know and love about the theater
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Kao neko ko se bavi pozorištem, ono što znam i što volim u vezi sa pozorištem
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is that when the audience comes in
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je to da kada publika uđe
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and they suspend their disbelief,
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i suzdržava se u neverici,
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when you see men walking or women walking
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kada vidite čoveka kako hoda ili ženu kako hoda
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with a platter of grass on their heads,
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sa pladnjem trave na glavama
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you know it's the savanna.
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znate da je u pitanju savana.
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You don't question that.
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Ne dovodite to u pitanje.
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I love the apparent truth of theater.
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Volim očiglednu istinu pozorišta.
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I love that people are willing to fill in the blanks.
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Volim što su ljudi voljni da popune prazna mesta.
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The audience is willing to say,
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Publika je spremna da kaže:
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"Oh, I know that's not a real sun.
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"Oh, znam da to nije pravo sunce.
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You took pieces of sticks.
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Uzeli ste komade štapova.
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You added silk to the bottom.
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Dodali ste svilu na dno.
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You suspended these pieces. You let it fall flat on the floor.
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Rastegli ste te komade. Ostavili ste da padaju ravno na pod.
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And as it rises with the strings, I see that it's a sun.
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Kada se podiže sa tim vrpcama, vidim da je to sunce.
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But the beauty of it is that it's just silk and sticks.
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Ali lepota svega toga je što su to samo svila i štapovi.
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And in a way, that is what makes it spiritual.
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Na neki način, to je ono što daje duhovnost.
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That's what moves you.
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To je ono što vas dira.
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It's not the actual literal sunrise that's coming.
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Ne stvarni, bukvalni izlazak sunca koji predstoji,
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It's the art of it.
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nego umetnost svega toga.
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So in the theater, as much as the story is critical
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Tako da u pozorištu, koliko god da su važni priča,
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and the book and the language,
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knjiga i jezik,
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the telling of the story, how it's told,
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pričanje priče, način na koji je ona ispričana,
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the mechanics, the methods that you use,
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mehanika, metodi koje koristite,
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is equal to the story itself.
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jednako su važni kao i sama priča.
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And I'm one who loves high tech and low tech.
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Ja sam neko ko voli visoke tehnologije ali i nedostatak tehnologije.
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So I could go from --
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Koristim sve od -
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For instance, I'll show you some "Spider-Man" later,
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na primer, pokazaću vam kasnije deo "Spajdermena",
te neverovatne mašine koje pokreću ljude.
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these incredible machines that move people along.
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But the fact is, without the dancer
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Ali činjenica je da, bez plesača
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who knows how to use his body and swing on those wires,
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koji zna kako da upravlja svojim telom i ljulja se na tim kablovima,
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it's nothing.
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to ne predstavlja ništa.
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So now I'm going to show you
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Sada ću da vam pokažem
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some clips from the other big project of my life this year,
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neke klipove iz još jednog mog velikog životnog projekta ove godine,
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"The Tempest."
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"Bura".
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It's a movie. I did "The Tempest" on a stage three times
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U pitanju je film. Do sada sam uradila tri verzije "Bure" na pozorišnoj sceni
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in the theater since 1984, '86,
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od 1984., '86,
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and I love the play.
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i obožavam tu dramu.
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I did it always with a male Prospero.
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Uvek sam je radila sa muškim Prosperom.
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And all of a sudden, I thought,
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Iznenada, pomislila sam,
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"Well, who am I gonna get to play Prospero?
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"Onda, koga ću uzeti da igra Prospera?
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Why not Helen Mirren? She's a great actor. Why not?"
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Recimo Helen Miren? Ona je sjajna glumica. Što da ne?"
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And this material really did work for a woman equally as well.
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I taj materijal je stvarno jednako dobro odgovarao i ženi.
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So now, let's take a look at some of the images
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A sada, hajde da pogledamo neke od prizora
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from "The Tempest."
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iz "Bure".
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
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(Video) Prospera: Hast thou, spirit, performed to the point the tempest that I bade thee?
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(Video) Prospera: Jesi li, duše, izveo tu buru tačno kako ti naredih?
Ariel: Sleteo sam na kraljev brod. U svakoj kabini širio sam užas u vidu plamena.
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Ariel: I boarded the king's ship. In every cabin, I flamed amazement.
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Prospera: At first sight, they have changed eyes.
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Prospera: Zagledali su se i zaljubili.
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Miranda: Do you love me?
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Miranda: Voliš li me?
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Ferdinand: Beyond all limit.
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Ferdinand: Više od svega na svetu.
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HM: They are both in either's powers.
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Prospera: Već su u vlasti jedno drugome.
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Trinculo: Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows.
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Trinkulo: Beda upozna čoveka sa neobičnim drugovima u postelji.
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
09:26
Looking for business, governor?
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Tražite nešto, upravniče?
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Caliban: Hast thou not dropped from heaven?
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Kaliban: Zar ti nisi pao s neba?
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Stephano: Out of the moon, I do assure thee.
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Stefano: Sa Meseca, uveravam te.
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Prospera: Caliban!
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Prospera: Kaliban!
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Caliban: This island is mine.
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Kaliban: Ovo je ostrvo moje.
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Prospera: For this, be sure, tonight thou shalt have cramps.
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Prospera: Zbog ovoga ćeš još noćas, to znaj, imati grčeve.
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Antonio: Here lies your brother no better than the earth he lies upon.
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Antonio: Tu leži brat tvoj, i ne bi bio bolji od te zemlje na kojoj leži.
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Sebastian: Draw thy sword.
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Sebastijan: Potegni mač svoj.
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And I, the king, shall love thee.
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A ja, kralj, biću i prijatelj tvoj.
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Prospera: I will plague them all, even to roaring.
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Prospera: Sve ću ih na strašne muke udariti.
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Ariel: I have made you mad.
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Ariel: Al' ja vas zaludeh.
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Prospera: We are such stuff as dreams are made on.
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Prospera: Mi smo građa od koje se prave snovi,
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and our little life is rounded with a sleep.
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i naš mali život nam je snom zaokružen.
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(Muzika)
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JT: Okay.
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DžT: Dobro.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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So I went from theater, doing "The Tempest"
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Dakle, došla sam iz pozorišta gde sam radila "Buru"
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on the stage in a very low-budget production
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na pozornici u veoma niskobudžetnoj produkciji
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many years ago,
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pre mnogo godina,
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and I love the play, and I also think
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volim tu dramu, a mislim i da
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it's Shakespeare's last play,
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je to Šekspirova poslednja drama,
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and it really lends itself, as you can see, to cinema.
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i da je, kao što ste videli, izrazito pogodna za film.
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But I'm just going to give you a little example about
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Daću vam jedan mali primer kako
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how one stages it in theater
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se ona postavlja na pozorišnu scenu
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and then how one takes that same idea or story
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i kako se zatim ista ta ideja ili priča
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and moves it into cinema.
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može preneti na filmsko platno.
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The ideograph that I talked to you about before,
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Ideogram o kom sam vam ranije pričala,
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what is it for "The Tempest"?
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šta je to za "Buru"?
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What, if I were to boil it down,
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Šta bi, ako bih morala sve da sažmem,
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would be the one image that I could
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bio taj jedan prizor na koji
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hang my hat on for this?
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bih u ovom slučaju mogla da se oslonim?
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And it was the sand castle,
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Bio je to peščani dvorac,
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the idea of nurture versus nature,
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ideja negovanja naspram prirode,
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that we build these civilizations --
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mi gradimo civilizacije -
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she speaks about it at the end, Helen Mirren's Prospera --
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ona govori o tome na kraju, Helen Miren kao Prospera --
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we build them, but under nature, under the grand tempest,
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gradimo ih, ali pod uticajem sila prirode, u velikoj buri,
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these cloud-capped towers, these gorgeous palaces will fade
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ti tornjevi koji dosežu oblake, te prekrasne palate će izbledeti
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and there will -- leave not a rack behind.
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i za sobom - neće ostaviti ni traga.
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So in the theater, I started the play,
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Počela sam da radim na predstavi u pozorištu,
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it was a black sand rake, white cyc,
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bile su tu jedne crne grablje za pesak, beli cic,
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and there was a little girl, Miranda, on the horizon,
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i bila je tu devojčica, Miranda, na horizontu,
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building a drip castle, a sand castle.
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koja je gradila dvorac od peščanih kapi, dvorac u pesku.
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And as she was there on the edge of that stage,
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I dok je bila tamo na ivici pozornice,
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two stagehands all in black
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dva pomoćnika, sva u crnom,
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with watering cans ran along the top
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sa kantama za zalivanje, trčali su duž vrha
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and started to pour water on the sand castle,
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i počeli su da sipaju vodu na peščani dvorac
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and the sand castle started to drip and sink,
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koji je počeo da se osipa i tone,
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but before it did,
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ali pre toga,
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the audience saw the black-clad stagehands.
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publika je mogla da vidi pomoćnike na sceni obučene u crno.
12:08
The medium was apparent. It was banal. We saw it.
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Medijum je bio očigledan. Bilo je providno. Bili smo svesni toga.
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But as they started to pour the water,
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Ali kada su počeli da sipaju vodu,
12:16
the light changed from showing you the black-clad stagehands
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svetlo se promenilo tako da je, umesto da osvetljava pomoćnike u crnini
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to focusing, this rough magic that we do in theater,
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fokusirano, ta gruba magija koju izvodimo u pozorištu,
12:23
it focused right on the water itself.
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fokusirano je pravo na samu vodu.
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And all of a sudden, the audience's perspective changes.
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Tako se odjednom menja perspektiva publike.
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It becomes something magically large.
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Pretvori se u nešto magično veliko.
12:34
It becomes the rainstorm.
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Postaje kišna oluja.
12:37
The masked actors, the puppeteers, they disappear,
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Maskirani glumci, lutkari, oni nestaju,
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and the audience makes that leap into this world,
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i publika uskače u taj novi svet,
12:43
into this imaginary world of "The Tempest" actually happening.
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u imaginarni svet "Bure" koja se stvarno odigrava.
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Now the difference
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E sad, razlika
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when I went and did it in the cinema,
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u odnosu na to kako sam radila filmsku verziju.
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I started the actual movie
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Film sam započela
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with a close-up of a sand castle, a black sand castle,
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krupnim planom peščanog dvorca, crnog peščanog dvorca,
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and what cinema can do is,
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i ono što film može da učini je da
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by using camera, perspective,
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koristeći kameru menja perspektivu,
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and also long shots and close-ups,
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i da prikazuje stvari u krupnom planu i iz blizine,
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it started on a close-up of the sand castle,
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kamera je krenula od snimka peščanog dvorca iz blizine,
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and as it pulled away,
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i dok je odmicala,
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you saw that it was a miniature sitting in the palm
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videlo se da je to u stvari minijatura
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of the girl's hands.
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smeštena na devojčicin dlan.
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And so I could play with the medium,
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Mogla sam da se poigravam medijumom,
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and why I move from one medium to another
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i to što sam u mogućnosti to da radim
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is to be able to do this.
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je i razlog što idem od jednog medijuma do drugog.
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Now I'm going to take you to "Spider-Man."
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Sada ću vam pokazati "Spajdermena".
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
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(Video) Peter Parker: ♪ Standing on the precipice,
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(Video) Piter Parker: ♪ Dok stojim na litici,
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I can soar away from this. ♪
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Mogu da odletim od svega ovoga. ♪
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JT: We're trying to do everything in live theater
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DžT: Pokušavamo da u pozorištu uživo predstavimo
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that you can't do in two dimensions
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sve ono što ne možete da prikažete u dve dimenzije
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in film and television.
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na filmu i televiziji.
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PP: ♪ Rise above yourself and take control. ♪
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PP: ♪ Izdigni se iznad sebe i preuzmi kontrolu. ♪
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George Tsypin: We're looking at New York from a Spider-Man point of view.
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Džordž Cipin: Posmatramo Njujork iz Spajdermenove perspektive.
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Spider Man is not bound by gravity.
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Spajdermen nije ograničen gravitacijom.
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Manhattan in the show is not bound by gravity either.
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Menhetn pod snegom takođe nije sputan gravitacijom.
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PP: ♪ Be yourself and rise above it all. ♪
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PP: ♪ Budi svoj i izdigni se iznad svega toga. ♪
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Ensemble: ♪ Sock! Pow! ♪
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Ansambl: ♪ Udarac! Eksplozija! ♪
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♪ Slam! Scratch! ♪
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♪ Tras! Škrip! ♪
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Danny Ezralow: I don't want you to even think there's a choreographer.
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Deni Ezralou: Ne želim ni da pomislite da koreograf uopšte postoji.
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It's real, what's happening.
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Sve je stvarno, ono što se dešava.
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I prefer you to see people moving,
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Draže mi je da vidite kako se ljudi kreću,
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and you're going, "Whoa, what was that?"
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i da kažete, "O, šta je to bilo?"
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
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JT: If I give enough movement in the sculpture,
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DžT: Ako u skulpturu unesem dovoljno pokreta,
14:57
and the actor moves their head, you feel like it's alive.
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dok glumac pokreće njenu glavu imate osećaj da je ona živa.
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It's really comic book live. It's a comic book coming alive.
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U stvari to je strip uživo. To je strip koji je oživljen.
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
15:10
Bono: They're mythologies.
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Bono: To su mitologije.
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They're modern myths, these comic book heroes.
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To su moderni mitovi, ti strip junaci.
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PP: ♪ They believe. ♪
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PP: ♪ Oni veruju. ♪
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(Screams)
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(Vrisci)
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(Music)
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(Muzika)
15:42
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
15:45
JT: Ohhhh. What was that?
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DžT: Ohhh. Šta je to bilo?
15:49
Circus, rock 'n' roll, drama.
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Cirkus, rokenrol, drama.
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What the hell are we doing up there on that stage?
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Šta mi to, kog vraga, radimo gore na toj bini?
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Well, one last story, very quickly.
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Poslednja priča, na brzinu.
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After I was in that village, I crossed the lake,
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Nakon što sam posetila to selo, prešla sam jezero
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and I saw that the volcano was erupting
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i videla sam vulkan kako eruptira
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on the other side, Gunung Batur,
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na drugoj strani, Gunung Batur,
16:05
and there was a dead volcano next to the live volcano.
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a pored živog vulkana nalazio se ugašen vulkan.
16:08
I didn't think I'd be swallowed by the volcano,
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Nisam mislila da će me vulkan progutati,
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and I am here.
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uostalom, ovde sam.
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But it's very easy to climb up, is it not?
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Ali vrlo je lako uspenjati se, zar ne?
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You hold on to the roots,
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Pridržavate se za korenje,
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you put your foot in the little rocks
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stavljate stopala u male stene,
16:20
and climb up there, and you get to the top,
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penjete se gore i stižete do vrha.
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and I was with a good friend who was an actor,
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Bila sam sa sa svojim dobrim prijateljem glumcem,
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and we said, "Let's go up there.
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i rekli smo: "Hajde da se popnemo tamo gore.
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Let's see if we can come close to the edge
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Hajde da vidimo da li možemo da se približimo ivici
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of that live volcano."
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tog živog vulkana."
16:31
And we climbed up and we got to the very top,
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Popeli smo se i stigli do samog vrha,
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and we're on the edge, on this precipice,
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i našli se na samoj ivici ambisa,
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Roland disappears into the sulfur smoke
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Roland nestaje u sumpornom dimu
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at the volcano at the other end,
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na drugom kraju vulkana,
16:41
and I'm up there alone
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a ja sam tu gore sama
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on this incredible precipice.
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na toj neverovatnoj litici.
16:45
Did you hear the lyrics?
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Da li ste čuli stihove?
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I'm on the precipice looking down
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Nalazim se na litici i gledam dole
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into a dead volcano to my left.
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na mrtav vulkan s moje leve strane.
16:52
To my right is sheer shale. It's coming off.
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Sa moje desne strane su sami škriljci. Krune se.
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I'm in thongs and sarongs. It was many years ago.
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Nosim japanke i sarong. Bilo je to pre mnogo godina.
16:59
And no hiking boots.
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Nemam čizme za planinarenje.
17:01
And he's disappeared, this mad French gypsy actor,
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On je nestao, taj ludi francuski ciganin glumac,
17:05
off in the smoke, and I realize,
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nestao u dimu i shvatam da
17:08
I can't go back the way that I've come. I can't.
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ne mogu da se vratim putem kojim sam došla. Ne mogu.
17:12
So I throw away my camera. I throw away my thongs,
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Bacam svoj fotoaparat. Izuvam japanke,
17:17
and I looked at the line straight in front of me,
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pogledala sam u liniju pravo ispred sebe,
17:20
and I got down on all fours like a cat,
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spustila se na sve četiri poput mačke,
17:24
and I held with my knees to either side
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i držala sam se kolenima za obe strane
17:27
of this line in front of me,
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te linije ispred mene,
17:29
for 30 yards or 30 feet, I don't know.
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nekih 10 ili 30 metara, ne znam.
17:32
The wind was massively blowing,
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Vetar je silovito duvao,
17:35
and the only way I could get to the other side
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i jedini način da stignem na drugu stranu
17:38
was to look at the line straight in front of me.
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bio je da gledam u liniju pravo ispred sebe.
17:41
I know you've all been there.
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Znam da ste svi bili tamo.
17:43
I'm in the crucible right now.
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Ja sam sada u teškom iskušenju.
17:45
It's my trial by fire.
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To je moj test.
17:47
It's my company's trials by fire.
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To je test za moju kompaniju.
17:49
We survive because our theme song is "Rise Above."
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Preživljavamo jer je naša naslovna pesma "Izdigni se".
17:53
Boy falls from the sky, rise above.
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Dečak pada sa neba, izdigni se.
17:56
It's right there in the palm of both of our hands,
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Tu je na dlanovima obe naše ruke,
17:59
of all of my company's hands.
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i rukama svih ljudi iz mog tima.
18:00
I have beautiful collaborators, and we as creators
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Imam predivne saradnike i kao stvaraoci
18:04
only get there all together.
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to postižemo samo kada smo zajedno.
18:06
I know you understand that.
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Znam da to shvatate.
18:08
And you just stay going forward,
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Samo nastavite da idete napred
18:10
and then you see this extraordinary thing
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i ugledaćete tu neverovatnu stvar
18:13
in front of your eyes.
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pred svojim očima.
18:15
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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