This is your brain on communication | Uri Hasson

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Prevodilac: Ivana Krivokuća Lektor: Tijana Mihajlović
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Imagine that you invented a device
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Zamislite da ste izmislili napravu
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that can record my memories,
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koja može da zabeleži moja sećanja,
00:16
my dreams, my ideas,
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moje snove, moje ideje
00:18
and transmit them to your brain.
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i prenese ih u vaš mozak.
00:20
That would be a game-changing technology, right?
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To bi bila tehnologija koja bi znatno promenila stvari, zar ne?
00:23
But in fact, we already possess this device,
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Zapravo, mi već posedujemo tu napravu,
00:26
and it's called human communication system
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a ona se zove sistem ljudske komunikacije
00:29
and effective storytelling.
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i efikasno pripovedanje.
00:31
To understand how this device works,
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Da bismo razumeli kako ova naprava funkcioniše,
00:34
we have to look into our brains.
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moramo da pogledamo unutar našeg mozga.
00:36
And we have to formulate the question in a slightly different manner.
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Moramo i da formulišemo pitanje na malo drugačiji način.
00:40
Now we have to ask
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Moramo da se zapitamo
00:42
how these neuron patterns in my brain
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kako se neuralni obrasci u mom mozgu
00:44
that are associated with my memories and ideas
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koji su u vezi sa mojim sećanjima i idejama
00:48
are transmitted into your brains.
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prenose u vaše mozgove.
00:51
And we think there are two factors that enable us to communicate.
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Mislimo da postoje dva faktora koja nam omogućavaju da komuniciramo.
00:55
First, your brain is now physically coupled to the sound wave
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Prvi - vaši mozgovi se sada nalaze u fizičkoj vezi sa zvučnim talasom
00:59
that I'm transmitting to your brain.
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koji prenosim u vaše mozgove.
01:01
And second, we developed a common neural protocol
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Drugi - razvili smo zajednički nervni protokol
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that enabled us to communicate.
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koji nam omogućava da komuniciramo.
01:07
So how do we know that?
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Kako to znamo?
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In my lab in Princeton,
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U mojoj laboratoriji na Prinstonu
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we bring people to the fMRI scanner and we scan their brains
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stavljamo ljude pod MR skener i skeniramo njihov mozak
01:14
while they are either telling or listening to real-life stories.
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dok pričaju ili slušaju priče iz stvarnog života.
01:18
And to give you a sense of the stimulus we are using,
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Da bi vam dao predstavu o stimulusima koje koristimo,
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let me play 20 seconds from a story that we used,
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dopustite da vam pustim 20 sekundi iz priče koju smo koristili,
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told by a very talented storyteller,
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koju je ispričao veoma talentovani pripovedač,
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Jim O'Grady.
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Džim O'Grejdi.
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(Audio) Jim O'Grady: So I'm banging out my story and I know it's good,
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(Audio zapis) Džim O'Grejdi: Razbijam tako sa pričom i znam da je dobra,
01:33
and then I start to make it better --
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a onda krenem da je poboljšavam -
01:35
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:38
by adding an element of embellishment.
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dodavanjem ukrasnog elementa.
01:41
Reporters call this "making shit up."
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Novinari to nazivaju stvaranjem izmišljotina.
01:44
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:47
And they recommend against crossing that line.
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Ne preporučuju prelaženje te linije,
01:52
But I had just seen the line crossed between a high-powered dean
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ali sam upravo video da se ta linija prelazi
u slučaju moćnog dekana i napada sa pecivom,
01:56
and assault with a pastry.
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01:58
And I kinda liked it."
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a to mi se nekako svidelo.
01:59
Uri Hasson: OK, so now let's look into your brain
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Uri Hason: U redu, hajde da sada pogledamo unutar vašeg mozga
02:02
and see what's happening when you listen to these kinds of stories.
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i vidimo šta se dešava kada slušate ovakve priče.
Započnimo jednostavno -
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And let's start simple -- let's start with one listener and one brain area:
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započnimo sa jednim slušaocem i jednom oblašću mozga,
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the auditory cortex that processes the sounds that come from the ear.
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auditivnim korteksom koji obrađuje zvuke koji dolaze iz uha.
Kao što možete videti, u ovoj specifičnoj oblasti mozga
02:13
And as you can see, in this particular brain area,
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the responses are going up and down as the story is unfolding.
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reakcije idu gore i dole dok se priča odvija.
02:19
Now we can take these responses
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Sada možemo da te reakcije
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and compare them to the responses in other listeners
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uporedimo sa reakcijama drugih slušalaca u istoj oblasti mozga.
02:23
in the same brain area.
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02:24
And we can ask:
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Možemo da postavimo pitanje
02:26
How similar are the responses across all listeners?
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koliko su slične reakcije među svim slušaocima.
02:30
So here you can see five listeners.
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Ovde imate pet slušalaca.
02:32
And we start to scan their brains before the story starts,
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Počinjemo da im skeniramo mozak pre početka priče,
02:36
when they're simply lying in the dark and waiting for the story to begin.
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kada samo leže u mraku i čekaju da priča počne.
Kao što možete videti,
02:40
As you can see,
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oblast mozga ima reakcije koje se kreću gore-dole kod svakog od njih,
02:41
the brain area is going up and down in each one of them,
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02:43
but the responses are very different,
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ali su one veoma različite,
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and not in sync.
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a ne sinhronizovane.
02:47
However, immediately as the story is starting,
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Međutim, u trenutku kada priča počinje,
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something amazing is happening.
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nešto neverovatno se dešava.
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(Audio) JO: So I'm banging out my story and I know it's good,
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DO: Razbijam tako sa pričom i znam da je dobra,
02:55
and then I start to make it --
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a onda krenem da je poboljšavam...
02:57
UH: Suddenly, you can see that the responses in all of the subjects
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UH: Odjednom možete videti da se reakcije svih subjekata
03:00
lock to the story,
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vezuju za priču
03:01
and now they are going up and down in a very similar way
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i da se sada kreću gore-dole na veoma sličan način
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across all listeners.
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kod svih slušalaca.
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And in fact, this is exactly what is happening now in your brains
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Zapravo, upravo to se sada dešava u vašim mozgovima
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when you listen to my sound speaking.
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dok slušate zvuk mog govora.
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We call this effect "neural entrainment."
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Ovaj efekat nazivamo „nervna usaglašenost“.
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And to explain to you what is neural entrainment,
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Da bih vam objasnio šta je nervna usaglašenost,
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let me first explain what is physical entrainment.
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dopustite da najpre objasnim šta je fizička usaglašenost.
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So, we'll look and see five metronomes.
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Pogledajmo i videćemo pet metronoma.
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Think of these five metronomes as five brains.
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Zamislite da ti metronomi predstavljaju pet mozgova.
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And similar to the listeners before the story starts,
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Slično slušaocima pre nego što priča započne,
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these metronomes are going to click,
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metronomi će kliknuti,
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but they're going to click out of phase.
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ali će kliknuti van faze.
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(Clicking)
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(Kliktanje)
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Now see what will happen when I connect them together
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Sada pogledajte šta će se dogoditi kada ih povežem
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by placing them on these two cylinders.
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tako što ću ih staviti na ova dva cilindra.
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(Clicking)
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(Kliktanje)
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Now these two cylinders start to rotate.
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Sada ova dva cilindra počinju da se okreću.
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This rotation vibration is going through the wood
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Ovo kružno okretanje ide kroz drvo
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and is going to couple all the metronomes together.
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i međusobno će uskladiti metronome.
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And now listen to the click.
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Sada slušajte kliktanje.
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(Synchronized clicking)
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(Sinhronizovano kliktanje)
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This is what you call physical entrainment.
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To je ono što biste nazvali fizička usaglašenost.
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Now let's go back to the brain and ask:
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Hajde da se sada vratimo na mozak i zapitamo se:
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What's driving this neural entrainment?
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šta pokreće nervnu usaglašenost?
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Is it simply the sounds that the speaker is producing?
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Da li su to jednostavno zvuci koje proizvodi onaj ko govori?
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Or maybe it's the words.
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Možda su u pitanju reči.
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Or maybe it's the meaning that the speaker is trying to convey.
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Možda je to značenje koje govornik pokušava da prenese.
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So to test it, we did the following experiment.
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Da bismo to proverili, sproveli smo sledeći eksperiment.
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First, we took the story and played it backwards.
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Najpre smo uzeli priču i pustili je unazad.
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And that preserved many of the original auditory features,
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To je očuvalo mnogo prvobitnih osobina zvuka,
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but removed the meaning.
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ali je uklonilo značenje.
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And it sounds something like that.
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Zvučalo je ovako nekako.
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(Audio) JO: (Unintelligible)
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(Audio zapis) DžO: (Nerazumljiv govor)
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And we flashed colors in the two brains
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Označili smo bojama dva mozga
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to indicate brain areas that respond very similarly across people.
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da bismo ukazali na oblasti mozga u kojima ljudi imaju vrlo slične reakcije.
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And as you can see,
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Kao što možete videti,
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this incoming sound induced entrainment or alignment in all of the brains
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dolazeći zvuk je proizveo usaglašenost ili usklađenost u svim mogovima
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in auditory cortices that process the sounds,
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u auditivnom korteksu koji obrađuje zvuk,
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but it didn't spread deeper into the brain.
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ali se nije proširio dublje u mozak.
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Now we can take these sounds and build words out of it.
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Možemo da uzmemo te zvukove i napravimo reči od njih.
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So if we take Jim O'Grady and scramble the words,
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Dakle, ako uzmemo priču Džima O'Grejdija i ispremeštamo reči, dobićemo spisak reči.
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we'll get a list of words.
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(Audio) JO: ... an animal ... assorted facts ...
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(Audio zapis) DžO: ... životinja... odabrane činjenice...
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and right on ... pie man ... potentially ... my stories
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i upravo... čovek-pita... potencijalno... moje priče.
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UH: And you can see that these words start to induce alignment
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UH: Možete vidite da ove reči počinju da proizvode sklad
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in early language areas, but not more than that.
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u ranim oblastima za jezik, ali ne i izvan toga.
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Now we can take the words and start to build sentences out of them.
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Sada možemo da uzmemo reči i počnemo da pravimo rečenice od njih.
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(Audio) JO: And they recommend against crossing that line.
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(Audio zapis) DžO: Ne preporučuju prelaženje te linije.
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He says: "Dear Jim, Good story. Nice details.
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On kaže: „Dragi Džim, dobra priča, fini detalji.
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Didn't she only know about him through me?"
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Zar ona nije znala za njega samo preko mene?“
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UH: Now you can see that the responses in all the language areas
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UH: Sada možete videti da reakcije u svim oblastima za jezik
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that process the incoming language
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koje obrađuju dolazeći jezik
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become aligned or similar across all listeners.
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postaju usklađene ili slične kod svih slušalaca.
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However, only when we use the full, engaging, coherent story
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Međutim, samo kada koristimo celu, zanimljivu, povezanu priču,
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do the responses spread deeper into the brain
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reakcije počinju da se šire dublje unutar mozga
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into higher-order areas,
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u oblasti višeg reda,
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which include the frontal cortex and the parietal cortex,
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koje obuhvataju frontalni korteks i parijetalni korteks
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and make all of them respond very similarly.
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i dovode do toga da sve one vrlo slično reaguju.
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And we believe that these responses in higher-order areas are induced
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Smatramo da te reakcije u oblastima višeg reda nastaju
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or become similar across listeners
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ili postaju slične kod različitih slušalaca
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because of the meaning conveyed by the speaker,
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zbog značenja koje govornik prenosi,
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and not by words or sound.
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a ne zbog reči ili zvuka.
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And if we are right, there's a strong prediction over here
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Ako smo u pravu, postoji snažno predviđanje da,
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if I tell you the exact same ideas
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ako vam iznesem potpuno iste ideje
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using two very different sets of words,
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koristeći dva veoma različita skupa reči,
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your brain responses will still be similar.
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reakcije vašeg mozga i dalje će biti slične.
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And to test it, we did the following experiment in my lab.
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Da bismo to proverili, sproveli smo sledeći eksperiment u mojoj laboratoriji.
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We took the English story
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Uzeli smo priču na engleskom
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and translated it to Russian.
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i preveli je na ruski.
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Now you have two different sounds and linguistic systems
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Sada imate dva različita skupa zvukova i lingvistička sistema
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that convey the exact same meaning.
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koji prenose potpuno isto značenje.
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And you play the English story to the English listeners
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Pustite priču na engleskom slušaocu koji govori engleski,
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and the Russian story to the Russian listeners,
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a priču na ruskom slušaocu koji govori ruski
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and we can compare their responses across the groups.
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i možemo da uporedimo njihove reakcije između grupa.
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And when we did that, we didn't see responses that are similar
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Kada smo to uradili, nismo videli slične reakcije
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in auditory cortices in language,
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u auditivnom korteksu u pogledu jezika,
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because the language and sound are very different.
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jer se jezik i zvukovi veoma razlikuju.
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However, you can see that the responses in high-order areas
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Međutim, možete videti da su reakcije u oblastima višeg reda
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were still similar across these two groups.
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bili prilično slični između ove dve grupe.
06:55
We believe this is because they understood the story in a very similar way,
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Mislimo da je to zato što su razumeli priču na vrlo sličan način,
06:59
as we confirmed, using a test after the story ended.
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što smo potvrdili pomoću testa nakon što se priča završila.
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And we think that this alignment is necessary for communication.
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Smatramo da je ovo slaganje neophodno za komunikaciju.
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For example, as you can tell,
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Na primer, kao što možete primetiti,
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I am not a native English speaker.
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engleski nije moj maternji jezik.
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I grew up with another language,
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Odrastao sam uz drugi jezik,
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and the same might be for many of you in the audience.
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a verovatno isto važi za mnoge među vama u publici.
07:17
And still, we can communicate.
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Ipak, možemo da komuniciramo.
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How come?
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Kako to?
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We think we can communicate because we have this common code
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Mislimo da možemo da komuniciramo jer imamo zajednički kod
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that presents meaning.
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koji predstavlja značenje.
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So far, I've only talked about what's happening in the listener's brain,
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Do sada sam samo govorio o tome šta se dešava u mozgu slušaoca,
07:29
in your brain, when you're listening to talks.
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u vašem mozgu, dok slušate govore.
07:31
But what's happening in the speaker's brain, in my brain,
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Međutim, šta se dešava u mozgu govornika, u mom mozgu,
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when I'm speaking to you?
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dok govorim pred vama?
07:36
To look in the speaker's brain,
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Da bismo pogledali u mozak govornika,
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we asked the speaker to go into the scanner,
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zatražili smo od njega da dođe pod skener,
07:41
we scan his brain
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skenirali smo mu mozak
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and then compare his brain responses to the brain responses of the listeners
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i zatim uporedili reakcije njegovog mozga sa reakcijama mozga slušalaca
07:46
listening to the story.
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dok slušaju priču.
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You have to remember that producing speech and comprehending speech
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Morate se prisetiti da su proizvodnja i razumevanje govora
07:52
are very different processes.
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veoma različiti procesi.
07:54
Here we're asking: How similar are they?
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Ovde postavljamo pitanje koliko su slični.
07:58
To our surprise,
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Na naše iznenađenje,
07:59
we saw that all these complex patterns within the listeners
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videli smo da su svi ti složeni obrasci unutar mozga slušalaca
08:04
actually came from the speaker brain.
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zapravo proizašli iz mozga govornika.
08:07
So production and comprehension rely on very similar processes.
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Dakle, proizvodnja i razumevanje počivaju na veoma sličnim procesima.
08:10
And we also found
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Takođe smo otkrili da,
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the stronger the similarity between the listener's brain
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što je veća sličnost između mozga slušaoca
08:16
and the speaker's brain,
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i mozga govornika,
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the better the communication.
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utoliko je bolja komunikacija.
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So I know that if you are completely confused now,
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Dakle, znam da, ako ste sada sasvim zbunjeni,
08:23
and I do hope that this is not the case,
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a nadam se da niste,
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your brain responses are very different than mine.
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reakcije vašeg mozga su veoma različite u odnosu na moje.
08:28
But I also know that if you really understand me now,
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Takođe znam da, ako me sada zaista razumete,
08:31
then your brain ... and your brain ... and your brain
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tada su vaš mozak, vaš mozak i vaš mozak
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are really similar to mine.
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veoma slični mom.
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Now, let's take all this information together and ask:
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Hajde da sada saberemo te informacije i postavimo pitanje
08:40
How can we use it to transmit a memory that I have
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kako možemo ovo koristiti da bismo preneli sećanja koje ja imam
08:44
from my brain to your brains?
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iz mog mozga u vaše.
08:47
So we did the following experiment.
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Stoga smo sproveli sledeći eksperiment.
08:49
We let people watch, for the first time in their life,
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Dali smo ljudima da gledaju, po prvi put u svom životu,
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a TV episode from the BBC series "Sherlock," while we scanned their brains.
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epizodu iz Bi-Bi-Sijeve serije „Šerlok“ dok smo im skenirali mozak.
08:56
And then we asked them to go back to the scanner
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Zatim smo zatražili od njih da se vrate pod skener
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and tell the story to another person that never watched the movie.
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i ispričaju priču drugoj osobi koja nikada nije gledala film.
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So let's be specific.
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Hajde da budemo konkretni.
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Think about this exact scene,
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Uzmite ovu određenu scenu
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when Sherlock is entering the cab in London
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kada Šerlok ulazi u taksi u Londonu
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driven by the murderer he is looking for.
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koji vozi ubica kojeg traži.
09:12
With me, as a viewer,
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Kod mene, kao gledaoca,
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there is a specific brain pattern in my brain when I watch it.
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javlja se određeni obrazac u mozgu dok to gledam.
09:19
Now, the exact same pattern, I can reactivate in my brain again
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Isti taj obrazac mogu iznova da aktiviram u svom mozgu
09:22
by telling the word: Sherlock, London, murderer.
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izgovaranjem reči „Šerlok“, „London“, „ubica“.
09:27
And when I'm transmitting these words to your brains now,
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Kada te reči sada prenosim u vaše mozgove,
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you have to reconstruct it in your mind.
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morate to da rekonstruišete u svom umu.
09:33
In fact, we see that pattern emerging now in your brains.
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Zapravo, vidimo da se taj obrazac sada javlja u vašim mozgovima.
09:37
And we were really surprised to see
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Zaista smo se iznenadili kada smo videli
09:40
that the pattern you have now in your brains
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da će obrasci koje sada imate u svojim mozgovima
09:42
when I'm describing to you these scenes
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kada vam opisujem te scene
09:44
would be very similar to the pattern I had when I watched this movie
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biti veoma slični obrascima koji sam imao pri gledanju filma
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a few months ago in the scanner.
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pre nekoliko meseci pod skenerom.
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This starts to tell you about the mechanism
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Ovo počinje da vam govori o mehanizmu
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by which we can tell stories and transmit information.
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pomoću kojeg možemo da pričamo priče i prenosimo informacije.
09:55
Because, for example,
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Jer, na primer,
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now you're listening really hard and trying to understand what I'm saying.
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sada me slušate vrlo intenzivno i pokušavate da razumete šta govorim.
Znam da to nije lako,
10:01
And I know that it's not easy.
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But I hope that at one point in the talk we clicked, and you got me.
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ali se nadam da smo u jednom trenutku govora kliknuli i da ste me shvatili.
10:06
And I think that in a few hours, a few days, a few months,
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Mislim da ćete za nekoliko sati, nekoliko dana ili meseci
10:10
you're going to meet someone at a party,
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upoznati nekoga na žurci,
10:12
and you're going to tell him about this lecture,
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da ćete mu ispričati o ovom predavanju
10:16
and suddenly it will be as if he is standing now here with us.
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i da će iznenada biti kao da se sada nalazi ovde sa nama.
10:20
Now you can see how we can take this mechanism
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Sada možete videti kako možemo upotrebiti ovaj mehanizam
10:23
and try to transmit memories and knowledge across people,
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da pokušamo da prenesemo sećanja i znanje među ljudima,
10:26
which is wonderful, right?
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što je sjajno, zar ne?
10:29
But our ability to communicate relies on our ability
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Međutim, naša sposobnost komunikacije
počiva na našoj sposobnosti da imamo zajedničko tle.
10:32
to have common ground.
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Because, for example,
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Na primer,
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if I'm going to use the British synonym
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ako upotrebim britanski sinonim
10:39
"hackney carriage" instead of "cab,"
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„najamna kola“ umesto „taksija“,
10:42
I know that I'm going to be misaligned with most of you in the audience.
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znam da se neću poklopiti sa većinom vas u publici.
10:46
This alignment depends not only on our ability
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To usklađivanje zavisi ne samo od naše sposobnosti
10:48
to understand the basic concept;
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da razumemo osnovne koncepte;
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it also depends on our ability to develop common ground and understanding
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ono zavisi i od naše sposobnosti da razvijemo zajedničko tle,
razumevanje i zajednički sistem uverenja.
10:55
and shared belief systems.
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10:57
Because we know that in many cases,
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Jer svi znamo da u mnogim slučajevima
10:59
people understand the exact same story in very different ways.
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ljudi razumeju potpuno istu priču na veoma različite načine.
11:04
So to test it in the lab, we did the following experiment.
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Da bismo ovo proverili u laboratoriji, sproveli smo sledeći eksperiment.
11:08
We took a story by J.D. Salinger,
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Uzeli smo priču Dž. D. Selindžera,
11:11
in which a husband lost track of his wife in the middle of a party,
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u kojoj je muž izgubio ženu usred zabave
11:15
and he's calling his best friend, asking, "Did you see my wife?"
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i zove svog najboljeg prijatelja da pita: „Jesi li video moju ženu?“
11:19
For half of the subjects,
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Polovini subjekata rekli smo
11:21
we said that the wife was having an affair with the best friend.
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da žena ima aferu sa najboljim prijateljem.
11:25
For the other half,
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Drugoj polovini smo rekli
11:26
we said that the wife is loyal and the husband is very jealous.
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da je žena verna i da je muž vrlo ljubomoran.
11:32
This one sentence before the story started
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Ta jedna rečenica pre početka priče
11:34
was enough to make the brain responses
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bila je dovoljna da učini da reakcije mozga
11:37
of all the people that believed the wife was having an affair
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svih ljudi koji su verovali da žena ima aferu
11:40
be very similar in these high-order areas
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budu veoma slične u ovim oblastima višeg reda
11:42
and different than the other group.
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i različite u odnosu na drugu grupu.
11:44
And if one sentence is enough to make your brain similar
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Ako je jedna rečenica dovoljna da učini vaš mozak sličnim
11:48
to people that think like you
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kao i kod ljudi koji misle kao vi
i vrlo različitim u odnosu na ljude koji misle različito u odnosu na vas,
11:50
and very different than people that think differently than you,
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11:53
think how this effect is going to be amplified in real life,
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pomislite koliko će taj efekat biti pojačan u stvarnom životu,
11:56
when we are all listening to the exact same news item
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kada svi slušamo potpuno iste teme u vestima
11:59
after being exposed day after day after day
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nakon što se one dan za danom iznose
12:03
to different media channels, like Fox News or The New York Times,
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na različitim medijskim kanalima, poput Foks njuza ili Njujork tajmsa,
12:07
that give us very different perspectives on reality.
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koji nam daju vrlo različita sagledavanja stvarnosti.
12:11
So let me summarize.
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Dakle, dozvolite da rezimiram.
12:13
If everything worked as planned tonight,
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Ako je večeras sve proteklo po planu,
12:15
I used my ability to vocalize sound to be coupled to your brains.
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koristio sam svoju sposobnost izgovaranja zvukova
za povezivanje sa vašim mozgovima i koristio sam to spajanje
12:19
And I used this coupling
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to transmit my brain patterns associated with my memories and ideas
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da bih preneo svoje moždane obrasce povezane sa svojim sećanjima i idejama
12:25
into your brains.
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u vaše mozgove.
12:27
In this, I start to reveal the hidden neural mechanism
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Ovim počinjem da razotkrivam skriveni nervni mehanizam
12:31
by which we communicate.
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pomoću kojeg komuniciramo.
12:32
And we know that in the future it will enable us to improve
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Znamo da će nam on u budućnosti omogućiti da unapredimo
12:35
and facilitate communication.
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i olakšamo komunikaciju.
12:38
But these studies also reveal
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Međutim, ova istraživanja takođe otkrivaju
12:40
that communication relies on a common ground.
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da komunikacija počiva na zajedničkom tlu.
12:43
And we have to be really worried as a society
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Moramo da se zaista zabrinemo kao društvo
12:46
if we lose this common ground and our ability to speak with people
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ako izgubimo to zajedničko tle i našu sposobnost da govorimo sa ljudima
12:50
that are slightly different than us
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koji su malo drugačiji od nas
12:52
because we let a few very strong media channels
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jer smo dopustili da nekoliko vrlo jakih medijskih kanala
12:55
take control of the mic,
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preuzmu kontrolu nad mikrofonom,
12:57
and manipulate and control the way we all think.
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da manipulišu i kontrolišu način na koji svi mi razmišljamo.
13:01
And I'm not sure how to fix it because I'm only a scientist.
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Nisam siguran kako to da popravim jer sam samo naučnik.
13:04
But maybe one way to do it
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Možda je jedan od načina za to
13:06
is to go back to the more natural way of communication,
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da se vratimo na prirodnije načine komunikacije, a to je dijalog,
13:09
which is a dialogue,
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13:11
in which it's not only me speaking to you now,
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u kome sada ne govorim samo ja pred vama,
13:13
but a more natural way of talking,
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već prirodniji način razgovaranja
13:16
in which I am speaking and I am listening,
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u kojem govorim i slušam,
13:19
and together we are trying to come to a common ground and new ideas.
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a zajedno pokušavamo da stvorimo zajedničko tle i nove ideje.
13:24
Because after all,
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Jer, na kraju krajeva,
13:25
the people we are coupled to define who we are.
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ljudi sa kojima smo povezani definišu ono što jesmo.
13:29
And our desire to be coupled to another brain
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Naša želja da se povežemo sa drugim mozgom
13:31
is something very basic that starts at a very early age.
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predstavlja nešto vrlo bazično što počinje u vrlo ranom uzrastu.
13:36
So let me finish with an example from my own private life
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Dozvolite da završim primerom iz svog privatnog života
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that I think is a good example of how coupling to other people
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za koji smatram da je dobar primer za to kako povezivanje sa drugim ljudima
13:45
is really going to define who we are.
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zaista definiše ono što jesmo.
13:48
This my son Jonathan at a very early age.
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Ovo je moj sin Jonatan u vrlo ranom uzrastu.
13:51
See how he developed a vocal game together with my wife,
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Vidite kako je razvio igru glasova sa mojom ženom,
13:55
only from the desire and pure joy of being coupled to another human being.
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samo iz želje i čiste radosti povezivanja sa drugim ljudskim bićem.
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(Both vocalizing)
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(Oboje vokalizuju)
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:17
Now, think how the ability of my son
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Razmislite o tome kako će sposobnost mog sina
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to be coupled to us and other people in his life
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da se poveže sa nama i drugim ljudima u svom životu
14:23
is going to shape the man he is going to become.
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oblikovati čoveka koji će on postati.
14:26
And think how you change on a daily basis
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Razmislite i o tome koliko se vi menjate iz dana u dan
14:29
from the interaction and coupling to other people in your life.
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usled interakcije i povezivanja sa drugim ljudima u svom životu.
14:34
So keep being coupled to other people.
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Stoga nastavite da se povezujete sa drugima.
14:37
Keep spreading your ideas,
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Nastavite da širite svoje ideje,
14:38
because the sum of all of us together, coupled,
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jer je skup svih nas zajedno, povezanih,
14:41
is greater than our parts.
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veći od naših delova.
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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