Could we speak the language of dolphins? | Denise Herzing

Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast

Prevodilac: Maja Budišin Lukin Lektor: Tatjana Jevdjic

Well, now we're going to the Bahamas to meet

Sada ćemo otići na Bahame u susret

a remarkable group of dolphins that I've been working with

izuzetnoj grupi delfina s kojima sam radila

in the wild for the last 28 years.

u divljini poslednjih 28 godina.

Now I'm interested in dolphins because of their large brains

Zanimaju me delfini, zbog svog velikog mozga

and what they might be doing with all that brainpower

i čemu bi taj mozak mogao da služi

in the wild.

u divljini.

And we know they use some of that brainpower

Znamo da nešto te pameti koriste

for just living complicated lives,

da bi živeli svojim komplikovanim životima,

but what do we really know about dolphin intelligence?

ali šta uopšte znamo o inteligenciji delfina?

Well, we know a few things.

Znamo nekoliko stvari.

We know that their brain-to-body ratio,

Znamo da je odnos težine njihovog mozga i tela,

which is a physical measure of intelligence,

a to je fizička mera inteligencije,

is second only to humans.

na drugom mestu u odnosu na ljude.

Cognitively, they can understand

Kognitivno, oni mogu da razumeju

artificially-created languages.

veštački stvorene jezike

And they pass self-awareness tests in mirrors.

i prolaze na testovima samosvesti u ogledalima.

And in some parts of the world, they use tools,

U nekim delovima sveta koriste oruđa

like sponges to hunt fish.

kao što su sunđeri, da love ribu.

But there's one big question left:

Ali, ostaje veliko pitanje:

do they have a language, and if so,

da li imaju jezik i ako ga imaju

what are they talking about?

o čemu pričaju?

So decades ago, not years ago,

Ne godinama, već decenijama ranije

I set out to find a place in the world

krenula sam u potragu za mestom

where I could observe dolphins underwater

gde bih mogla da posmatram delfine pod vodom

to try to crack the code of their communication system.

da bih pokušala da dešifrujem njihov sistem za komunikaciju.

Now in most parts of the world, the water's pretty murky,

U većem delu sveta, voda je prilično mutna,

so it's very hard to observe animals underwater,

pa ih je teško posmatrati pod vodom,

but I found a community of dolphins that live

ali pronašla sam zajednicu delfina koja živi

in these beautiful, clear, shallow sandbanks of the Bahamas

u ovim divnim, bistrim, plitkim peščanim sprudovima Bahama,

which are just east of Florida.

nešto istočnije od Floride.

And they spend their daytime resting and socializing

Oni provode vreme odmarajući i družeći se

in the safety of the shallows, but at night,

u bezbednosti pllićaka, a noću

they go off the edge and hunt in deep water.

idu da love u duboke vode.

Now, it's not a bad place to be a researcher, either.

Ni za istraživača tu nije loše.

So we go out for about five months every summer

Svakoga leta smo približno pet meseci

in a 20-meter catamaran, and we live, sleep and work

na 20-metarskom katamaranu, živimo, spavamo i radimo

at sea for weeks at a time.

istovremeno, na moru nedeljama.

My main tool is an underwater video with a hydrophone,

Moje glavno oruđe je podvodna kamera s hidrofonom,

which is an underwater microphone, and this is so

što je podvodni mikrofon, jer na taj način

I can correlate sound and behavior.

mogu da opažam korelaciju između zvuka i ponašanja.

And most of our work's pretty non-invasive.

Većina našeg rada je prilično neinvazivna.

We try to follow dolphin etiquette while we're in the water,

Trudimo se da pratimo pravila ponašanja delfina dok smo u vodi

since we're actually observing them physically in the water.

jer ih fizički i posmatramo u vodi.

Now, Atlantic spotted dolphins are a really nice species

Pegavi atlantski delfini (Stenella frontalis) su stvarno lepa vrsta

to work with for a couple of reasons.

za posmatranje iz nekoliko razloga.

They're born without spots, and they get spots with age,

Rađaju se bez pega koje dobijaju s godinama

and they go through pretty distinct developmental phases,

i prolaze kroz veoma različite razvojne faze,

so that's fun to track their behavior.

pa je zabavno pratiti njihovo ponašanje.

And by about the age of 15, they're fully spotted black and white.

Tek oko 15 godine su potpuno crno i belo pegavi.

Now the mother you see here is Mugsy.

Ovde vidite majku Magzi.

She's 35 years old in this shot,

Ona ima 35 godina na ovom snimku,

but dolphins can actually live into their early 50s.

a delfini mogu da dožive svoje rane pedesete godine.

And like all the dolphins in our community,

Kao i sve delfine u našoj zajednici,

we photographed Mugsy and tracked her little spots

fotografisali smo Magzi i pratili njene male pege

and nicks in her dorsal fin,

i ureze u njenom leđnom peraju,

and also the unique spot patterns

kao i jedinstvenu pegavu šaru

as she matured over time.

tokom njenog sazrevanja.

Now, young dolphins learn a lot as they're growing up,

Mladi delfini mnogo nauče u procesu odrastanja

and they use their teenage years to practice social skills,

i u svojim tinejdžerskim godinama vežbaju društvene veštine,

and at about the age of nine, the females

a sa približno 9 godina

become sexually mature, so they can get pregnant,

ženke seksualno sazrevaju i mogu zatrudneti,

and the males mature quite a bit later,

dok mužjaci sazrevaju dosta kasnije,

at around 15 years of age.

oko 15. godine.

And dolphins are very promiscuous,

Delfini su veoma promiskuitetni,

and so we have to determine who the fathers are,

pa moramo da utvrđujemo očinstvo,

so we do paternity tests by collecting fecal material

pa izvodimo testove prikupljajući fekalni materijal

out of the water and extracting DNA.

iz vode i izdvajamo DNK.

So what that means is, after 28 years,

To znači da posle 28 godina,

we are tracking three generations,

pratimo tri generacije,

including grandmothers and grandfathers.

uključujući babe i dede.

Now, dolphins are natural acousticians.

Delfini su prirodni akustičari.

They make sounds 10 times as high

Oni proizvode i čuju zvuke

and hear sounds 10 times as high as we do.

koji su 10 puta viši od onih koje mi čujemo.

But they have other communication signals they use.

Međutim, koriste i druge komunikacione signale.

They have good vision, so they use body postures to communicate.

Imaju dobar vid, pa koriste položaje tela za komunikaciju.

They have taste, not smell.

Imaju čulo ukusa, ali ne i mirisa.

And they have touch.

Imaju čulo dodira.

And sound can actually be felt in the water,

Zvuk je moguće osetiti u vodi

because the acoustic impedance of tissue and water's about the same.

jer je akustični otpor tkiva i vode otprilike jednak.

So dolphins can buzz and tickle each other at a distance.

Tako delfini mogu da zuje i da se golicaju sa razdaljine.

Now, we do know some things about how sounds are used

Znamo nešto o tome kako se zvuci koriste

with certain behaviors.

uz određeno ponašanje.

Now, the signature whistle is a whistle

Postoji zvižduk obeležavanja, a to je zvižduk

that's specific to an individual dolphin, and it's like a name. (Dolphin whistling noises)

koji je specifičan za svakog delfina, pa je kao ime. (Zvuci zviždanja delfina)

And this is the best-studied sound,

Ovo je najbolje proučen zvuk,

because it's easy to measure, really,

jer ga je zaista lako izmeriti,

and you'd find this whistle when mothers and calves

a naićićete na taj zvižduk

are reuniting, for example.

kada se majka i mladunčad ponovo okupljaju, na primer.

Another well studied sound are echolocation clicks.

Sledeći dobro prostudirani zvuci su eholokacijski zvuci.

This is the dolphin's sonar. (Dolphin echolocation noises)

Ovo je delfinski sonar. (Delfinski eholokacijski zvuci)

And they use these clicks to hunt and feed.

Oni koriste ta coktanja da love i da se hrane.

But they can also tightly pack these clicks together

Ali takođe mogu da to coktanje uviju

into buzzes and use them socially.

u zujanje i da ih koriste za druženje.

For example, males will stimulate a female

Npr. mužjaci će stimulisati ženke

during a courtship chase.

tokom udvaračke hajke.

You know, I've been buzzed in the water.

Znate, meni su zujali u vodi.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

Don't tell anyone. It's a secret.

Nemojte nikome reći. To je tajna.

And you can really feel the sound. That was my point with that.

I stvarno osećate zvuk. To sam i htela reći.

(Laughter)

(Smeh)

So dolphins are also political animals,

Delfini su takođe životinje koje se bave politikom,

so they have to resolve conflicts.

pa moraju da rešavaju konflikte.

(Dolphin noises)

(Zvuci delfina)

And they use these burst-pulsed sounds as well as

Koriste ove eksplozivne pulsirajuće zvuke

their head-to-head behaviors when they're fighting.

pored čeonih položaja dok se svađaju.

And these are very unstudied sounds

A ovo su neproučeni zvuci

because they're hard to measure.

jer ih je teško izmeriti.

Now this is some video of a typical dolphin fight.

Ovo je snimak tipične borbe delfina.

(Dolphin noises)

(Zvuci delfina)

So you're going to see two groups,

Videćete dve grupe

and you're going to see the head-to-head posturing,

i videćete položaje glava u glavu,

some open mouths,

neka otvorena usta,

lots of squawking.

mnogo krike.

There's a bubble.

Eno mehurića.

And basically, one of these groups will kind of back off

U stvari, jedna od tih grupa će se nekako povući

and everything will resolve fine,

i sve će se dobro rešiti,

and it doesn't really escalate into violence too much.

ne eskalira u nasilje previše.

Now, in the Bahamas, we also have resident bottlenose

Na Bahamima su takođe nastanjeni kljunasti delfini

that interact socially with the spotted dolphins.

koji se druže sa pegavim delfinima.

For example, they babysit each other's calves.

Npr. jedni drugima čuvaju mladunce.

The males have dominance displays that they use

Mužjaci istupaju dominantno

when they're chasing each other's females.

kada jure jedni drugima za ženkama.

And the two species actually form temporary alliances

Te dve vrste prave privremena savezništva

when they're chasing sharks away.

kada teraju ajkule.

And one of the mechanisms they use to communicate

Jedan od mehanizama koji koriste za komunikaciju koordinacije

their coordination is synchrony.

je sinhronizacija.

They synchronize their sounds and their body postures

Oni sinhronizuju svoje zvuke i položaje tela

to look bigger and sound stronger.

da bi izgledali veći i zvučali jače.

(Dolphins noises)

(Zvuci delfina)

Now, these are bottlenose dolphins,

Ovo su ti obični kljunasti delfini

and you'll see them starting to synchronize

i videćete ih kako počinju da sinhronizuju

their behavior and their sounds.

svoje ponašanje i zvuke.

(Dolphin noises)

(Zvuci delfina)

You see, they're synchronizing with their partner

Vidite, sinhronizuju se sa svojim partnerom

as well as the other dyad.

jednako kao i drugi parovi.

I wish I was that coordinated.

Volela bih da sam tako koordinirana.

Now, it's important to remember that you're only hearing

Važno je da zapamtite da čujete samo

the human-audible parts of dolphin sounds,

delove delfinskih zvukova koje ljudi čuju,

and dolphins make ultrasonic sounds,

jer delfini proizvode i ultrazvuke,

and we use special equipment in the water

pa koristimo specijalnu opremu u vodi

to collect these sounds.

za prikupljanje tih zvukova.

Now, researchers have actually measured whistle complexity

Istraživači su merili složenost zvižduka

using information theory,

korišćenjem teorije informacije

and whistles rate very high relative to even human languages.

i zvižduci su procenjeni veoma visoko u odnosu čak i na ljudski govor.

But burst-pulsed sounds is a bit of a mystery.

Ali eksplozivno-pulsirajući zvuci su pomalo tajanstveni.

Now, these are three spectragrams.

Ovo su tri spektrograma.

Two are human words, and one is a dolphin vocalizing.

Dva su ljudske reči, a jedan je delfinska vokalizacija.

So just take a guess in your mind which one is the dolphin.

Pogađajte koji je delfin.

Now, it turns out burst-pulsed sounds actually look

Ispostavlja se da eksplozivno-pulsirajući zvuci izgledaju

a bit like human phonemes.

pomalo kao ljudski fonemi.

Now, one way to crack the code

Jedan od načina za dešifrovanje

is to interpret these signals and figure out what they mean,

jeste tumačenje ovih signala i odgonetanje njihovog značenja,

but it's a difficult job, and we actually don't have a Rosetta Stone yet.

što je težak posao i još uvek nemamo ključ.

But a second way to crack the code

No, drugi način za dešifrovanje

is to develop some technology,

jeste razvijanje neke tehnologije,

an interface to do two-way communication,

interfejsa za dvosmernu komunikaciju

and that's what we've been trying to do in the Bahamas

i to pokušavamo da uradimo na Bahamima

and in real time.

u realnom vremenu.

Now, scientists have used keyboard interfaces

Naučnici su koristili tastaturu

to try to bridge the gap with species

da bi premostili jaz među različitim vrstama

including chimpanzees and dolphins.

uključujući šimpanze i delfine.

This underwater keyboard in Orlando, Florida,

Ova podvodna tastatura u Orlandu na Floridi,

at the Epcot Center, was actually

u Epkot centru, bila je u stvari

the most sophisticated ever two-way interface designed

dotad najsofisticiraniji dvosmerni interfejs

for humans and dolphins to work together under the water

napravljen za rad ljudi s delfinima pod vodom

and exchange information.

i za razmenjivanje informacija.

So we wanted to develop an interface like this

Zato smo želeli da razvijemo takav interfejs

in the Bahamas, but in a more natural setting.

na Bahamima, ali u prirodnijem okruženju.

And one of the reasons we thought we could do this

Jedan od razloga koji nas je na to naveo

is because the dolphins were starting to show us

jeste da su delfini počeli da ispoljavaju

a lot of mutual curiosity.

veliku uzajamnu radoznalost.

They were spontaneously mimicking our vocalizations

Spontano su oponašali našu vokalizaciju

and our postures, and they were also inviting us

i naše položaje, te su nas takođe pozivali

into dolphin games.

u delfinske igre.

Now, dolphins are social mammals, so they love to play,

Delfini su druželjubivi sisari i rado se igraju,

and one of their favorite games is to drag seaweed,

a jedna od njihovih omiljenih igara je da vuku unaokolo morsku travu,

or sargassum in this case, around.

u ovom slučaju sargasum.

And they're very adept. They like to drag it

I veoma su vešti. Rado ga povlače

and drop it from appendage to appendage.

i ispuštaju od jednog do drugog peraja.

Now in this footage, the adult is Caroh.

Na ovom snimku, odrasli delfin je Karoh.

She's 25 years old here, and this is her newborn, Cobalt,

Ima 25 godina, a ovo je njeno novorođenče, Kobalt

and he's just learning how to play this game.

i on uči kako da igra tu igru.

(Dolphin noises)

(Delfinski zvuci)

She's kind of teasing him and taunting him.

Оna kao da ga zadirkuje i ruga mu se.

He really wants that sargassum.

On zaista želi taj sargasum.

Now, when dolphins solicit humans for this game,

Kada delfini traže ljude za ovu igru,

they'll often sink vertically in the water,

često će vertikalno uroniti u vodu

and they'll have a little sargassum on their flipper,

i imaće mali sargasum na peraju

and they'll sort of nudge it and drop it sometimes

i nekako će ga gurnuti i ispustiti ponekad

on the bottom and let us go get it,

na dno i pustiti nas da idemo po njega

and then we'll have a little seaweed keep away game.

i tako ćemo se igrati s morskom travom.

But when we don't dive down and get it,

Ali kada ne zaronimo i ne donesemo je

they'll bring it to the surface

oni će je doneti na površinu

and they'll sort of wave it in front of us on their tail

i mahaće njom na repu ispred nas

and drop it for us like they do their calves,

i pustiće je za nas, kao što rade s mladuncima

and then we'll pick it up and have a game.

i tada ćemo je pokupiti igre radi.

And so we started thinking, well, wouldn't it be neat

Tako smo počeli da razmišljamo da bi bilo lepo

to build some technology that would allow the dolphins

da naravimo tehnologiju koja bi omogućila delfinima

to request these things in real time, their favorite toys?

da zahtevaju te stvari, svoje omiljene igračke, u realnom vremenu.

So the original vision was to have a keyboard

Originalna vizija je bila da imamo tastaturu

hanging from the boat attached to a computer,

koja visi sa broda priključena na kompjuter,

and the divers and dolphins would activate the keys

pa bi ronioci i delfini aktivirali tastere na tastaturi

on the keypad and happily exchange information

i veselo razmenjivali informacije

and request toys from each other.

tražeći igračke jedni od drugih.

But we quickly found out that dolphins simply

Ali smo ubrzo otkrili da delfini jednostavno

were not going to hang around the boat using a keyboard.

neće da se motaju oko broda i da koriste tastaturu.

They've got better things to do in the wild.

Imaju pametnije stvari da rade u divljini.

They might do it in captivity, but in the wild --

To mogu raditi u zarobljeništvu, ali ne i u divljini -

So we built a portable keyboard that we could push through the water,

Pa smo izgradili prenosnu tastaturu, koju bismo mogli gurati kroz vodu

and we labeled four objects they like to play with,

i označili smo 4 objekta sa kojima vole da se igraju,

the scarf, rope, sargassum, and also had a bow ride,

maramu, konopac, sargasum i motorni čamac takođe

which is a fun activity for a dolphin. (Whistle)

koji je zabavna aktivnost za delfine. (Zvižduk)

And that's the scarf whistle,

To je zvižduk za maramu,

which is also associated with a visual symbol.

povezan takođe s vizuelnim simbolom.

And these are artificially created whistles.

A to su veštački stvoreni zvižduci.

They're outside the dolphin's normal repertoire,

Oni su izvan normalnog delfinskog repertoara,

but they're easily mimicked by the dolphins.

ali ih delfini lako imitiraju.

And I spent four years with my colleagues Adam Pack and Fabienne Delfour,

Provela sam 4 godine sa svojim kolegama Adamom Pakom i Fabijanom Delforom

working out in the field with this keyboard

radeći na terenu s ovom tastaturom,

using it with each other to do requests for toys

koristeći je između sebe da tražimo igračke

while the dolphins were watching.

dok su delfini posmatrali.

And the dolphins could get in on the game.

Delfini su mogli da učestvuju u igri.

They could point at the visual object,

Mogli su da pokazuju na vizuelni objekt

or they could mimic the whistle.

ili su mogli da oponašaju zvižduk.

Now this is video of a session.

Ovo je snimak jedne sesije.

The diver here has a rope toy,

Ovde ronilac ima konopac igračku,

and I'm on the keyboard on the left,

ja sam na tastaturi levo

and I've just played the rope key,

i upravo sam odsvirala zvuk konopca,

and that's the request for the toy from the human.

a to je znak da ljudi traže igračku.

So I've got the rope, I'm diving down,

Tako sam dobila konopac i uronjavam

and I'm basically trying to get the dolphin's attention,

pokušavajući da zadobijem pažnju delfina

because they're kind of like little kids.

jer su oni pomalo slični maloj deci.

You have to keep their attention.

Morate da im održavate pažnju.

I'm going to drop the rope, see if they come over.

Ispustiću konopac da vidim da li će doći.

Here they come,

Evo ih dolaze

and then they're going to pick up the rope

i sada će pokupiti konopac

and drag it around as a toy.

i vući će ga unaokolo kao igračku.

Now, I'm at the keyboard on the left,

Sada sam na tastaturi levo,

and this is actually the first time that we tried this.

ovo je zapravo prvi put da smo to probali.

I'm going to try to request this toy, the rope toy,

Pokušaću da zatražim tu igračku, konopac igračku

from the dolphins using the rope sound.

od delfina pomoću zvuka konopca.

Let's see if they might actually understand what that means.

Pa da vidimo da li mogu da shvate šta to znači.

(Whistle)

(Zvižduk)

That's the rope whistle.

To je zvižduk konopca.

Up come the dolphins,

Gore dolaze delfini

and drop off the rope, yay. Wow.

i ostavljaju konopac, da.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)

So this is only once.

Ovo je samo jedanput.

We don't know for sure if they really understand the function of the whistles.

Ne znamo pouzdano da li oni zaista razumeju funkciju zvižduka.

Okay, so here's a second toy in the water.

Dobro, evo ovde je druga igračka u vodi.

This is a scarf toy, and I'm trying to lead the dolphin

Ovo je marama igračka i pokušavam da odvedem delfina

over to the keyboard to show her

do tastature da joj pokažem

the visual and the acoustic signal.

vizuelni i zvučni signal.

Now this dolphin, we call her "the scarf thief,"

Ovu delfinku zovemo "maramokradica",

because over the years she's absconded

jer je tokom godina pobegla

with about 12 scarves.

sa oko 12 marama.

In fact, we think she has a boutique somewhere in the Bahamas.

U stvari, mislimo da ima butik negde na Bahamima.

So I'm reaching over. She's got the scarf on her right side.

Pružam joj. Dobila je maramu na svojoj desnoj strani.

And we try to not touch the animals too much,

Trudimo se da životinje ne dodirujemo previše,

we really don't want to over-habituate them.

ne želimo da se previše naviknu.

And I'm trying to lead her back to the keyboard.

Pokušavam da je odvedem nazad prema tastaturi.

And the diver there is going to activate the scarf sound

I ronilac će aktivirati zvuk marame

to request the scarf.

da zatraži maramu.

So I try to give her the scarf.

Zato se trudim da joj dam maramu.

Whoop. Almost lost it.

Ups. Skoro ju je izgubila.

But this is the moment where everything becomes possible.

Ali ovo je momenat kad sve postaje moguće.

The dolphin's at the keyboard.

Delfin je na tastaturi.

You've got full attention.

Imate punu pažnju.

And this sometimes went on for hours.

I to je nekad trajalo satima.

And I wanted to share this video with you

Želela sam da podelim ovaj snimak sa vama,

not to show you any big breakthroughs,

ne da bih vam pokazala neke velike pomake,

because they haven't happened yet,

jer još se nisu dogodili,

but to show you the level of intention and focus

već da vam pokažem nivo volje i pažnje

that these dolphins have, and interest in the system.

koje ovi delfini imaju i interes za sistem.

And because of this, we really decided we needed

Zbog toga smo odlučili da su nam potrebne

some more sophisticated technology.

neke sofisticiranije tehnologije.

So we joined forces with Georgia Tech,

Pa smo udružili snage sa Tehničkim institutom iz Džordžije

with Thad Starner's wearable computing group,

sa T. Starnerovom kompjuterskom grupom za nosive kompjutere

to build us an underwater wearable computer

da nam naprave podvodni nosivi kompjuter

that we're calling CHAT. [CHAT: Cetacean Hearing And Telemetry]

koji nazivamo ČAT. [CHAT: Cetacean Hearing And Telemetry]

Now, instead of pushing a keyboard through the water,

Sada umesto guranja tastature kroz vodu,

the diver's wearing the complete system, and it's acoustic only,

ronioci obuku kompletan sistem, koji je samo akustičan,

so basically the diver activates the sounds on a keypad

pa kada ronilac aktivira zvuk na maloj tastaturi

on the forearm,

na podlaktici,

the sounds go out through an underwater speaker,

zvuci izlaze kroz podvodni zvučnik,

if a dolphin mimics the whistle

ako delfin imitira zvižduk,

or a human plays the whistle, the sounds come in

ili ako ljudi puste zvižduk, zvuci ulaze

and are localized by two hydrophones.

i lokalizuju se pomoću dva hidrofona.

The computer can localize who requested the toy

Kompjuter može lokalizovati ko je zatražio igračku

if there's a word match.

ako se reči poklapaju.

And the real power of the system is in the real-time

Stvarna snaga sistema je u momentalnom

sound recognition, so we can respond to the dolphins

prepoznavanju zvuka, pa možemo odgovoriti delfinima

quickly and accurately.

brzo i precizno.

And we're at prototype stage, but this is how we hope it will play out.

U fazi smo prototipa, ali nadamo se da će se ovako odvijati.

So Diver A and Diver B both have a wearable computer

Dakle, ronilac A i ronilac B oboje imaju nosivi kompjuter

and the dolphin hears the whistle as a whistle,

i delfin čuje zvižduk kao zvižduk,

the diver hears the whistle as a whistle in the water,

ronilac čuje zvižduk kao zvižduk u vodi,

but also as a word through bone conduction.

ali i kao reč putem koštane provodljivosti.

So Diver A plays the scarf whistle

Dakle, ronilac A odsvira zvižduk marame

or Diver B plays the sargassum whistle

ili ronilac B odsvira zvižduk sargasuma

to request a toy from whoever has it.

da zatraži igračku od bilo koga ko je ima.

What we hope will happen is that the dolphin mimics the whistle,

Nadamo se sledećem, da će delfin imitirati zvižduk

and if Diver A has the sargassum, if that's the sound

i ako ronilac A ima sargasum, ako je to zvuk

that was played and requested,

koji je odsviran i zatražen,

then the diver will give the sargassum to the requesting dolphin

onda će ronilac dati sargasum delfinu koji ga je zatražio

and they'll swim away happily into the sunset

i oni će veselo otplivati u zalazak sunca

playing sargassum for forever.

svirajući sargasum zauvek.

Now, how far can this kind of communication go?

Koliko daleko može ova vrsta komunikacije da ide?

Well, CHAT is designed specifically to empower the dolphins

Pa, ČAT je napravljen specijalno da osposobi delfine

to request things from us.

da od nas traže stvari.

It's designed to really be two-way.

Osmišljen je da zaista bude dvosmeran.

Now, will they learn to mimic the whistles functionally?

Da li će naučiti da funkcionalno imitiraju zvižduke?

We hope so and we think so.

Nadamo se i mislimo da hoće.

But as we decode their natural sounds,

Ali kao što smo dekodirali njihove prirodne zvuke,

we're also planning to put those back into the computerized system.

takođe planiramo da ih vratimo u kompjuterizovan sistem.

For example, right now we can put their own signature whistles

Na primer već sada možemo da ubacimo njihov svojstveni zvižduk

in the computer and request to interact with a specific dolphin.

u kompjuter i da zahtevamo komunikaciju sa određenim delfinom.

Likewise, we can create our own whistles,

Na taj način možemo da napravimo naše zvižduke,

our own whistle names, and let the dolphins

naša zvižduk imena i omogućimo delfinima

request specific divers to interact with.

da potraže komunikaciju sa određenim roniocem.

Now it may be that all our mobile technology

Može se desiti da će nam naša mobilna tehnologija

will actually be the same technology that helps us

jednako poslužiti

communicate with another species down the road.

za komuniciranje i sa drugim vrstama.

In the case of a dolphin, you know, it's a species that,

Što se delfina tiče, oni jesu vrsta

well, they're probably close to our intelligence in many ways

bliska našoj inteligenciji na mnogo načina

and we might not be able to admit that right now,

iako možda ne možemo da to već sada priznamo,

but they live in quite a different environment,

ali oni žive u sasvim drukčijem okruženju,

and you still have to bridge the gap with the sensory systems.

pa je potrebno premostiti razlike čulnih sistema.

I mean, imagine what it would be like

Hoću reći, zamislite kako bi to bilo

to really understand the mind

kada bismo zaista razumeli um

of another intelligent species on the planet.

druge inteligentne vrste na planeti.

Thank you.

Hvala.

(Applause)

(Aplauz)