Could we speak the language of dolphins? | Denise Herzing

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Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast
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翻译人员: Yan SU 校对人员: Wei Wu
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Well, now we're going to the Bahamas to meet
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现在,让我们一起前往巴哈马群岛
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a remarkable group of dolphins that I've been working with
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去认识我的搭档们,一群了不起的海豚
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in the wild for the last 28 years.
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在过去的28年里,我们在大自然中共勉。
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Now I'm interested in dolphins because of their large brains
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我之所以对海豚该兴趣是因为它们的大脑比较大,
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and what they might be doing with all that brainpower
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还有它们运用自己的脑力
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in the wild.
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在野外做的事情。
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And we know they use some of that brainpower
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好吧,我们知道它们会用部分脑力
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for just living complicated lives,
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去应付复杂的生活,
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but what do we really know about dolphin intelligence?
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但我们真的知道海豚的智能吗?
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Well, we know a few things.
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嗯,我们知道一些,
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We know that their brain-to-body ratio,
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我们知道它们的大脑和身体的比例,
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which is a physical measure of intelligence,
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这是衡量智力的一种物理指标,
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is second only to humans.
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它们的比例仅次于人类。
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Cognitively, they can understand
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它们的认知能力使它们能够明白
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artificially-created languages.
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人为创造出来的语言。
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And they pass self-awareness tests in mirrors.
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它们通过了测试自我认知能力的镜子测试,
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And in some parts of the world, they use tools,
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在世界的某些地方,它们利用工具,
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like sponges to hunt fish.
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比如,用海绵捕鱼。
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But there's one big question left:
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但是仍有一个疑问:
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do they have a language, and if so,
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它们有自己的语言吗?如果有的话,
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what are they talking about?
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它们到底在说些什么呢?
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So decades ago, not years ago,
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几十年前,而不是几年前,
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I set out to find a place in the world
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我开始寻找地球上的某个地方,
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where I could observe dolphins underwater
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某个我可以在水下观察海豚的地方,
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to try to crack the code of their communication system.
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以便尝试着破译它们之间的通讯系统。
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Now in most parts of the world, the water's pretty murky,
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世界上很多地方的水都很浑浊,
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so it's very hard to observe animals underwater,
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给在水下观察生物带来不便,
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but I found a community of dolphins that live
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但是我找到了一群海豚生活在
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in these beautiful, clear, shallow sandbanks of the Bahamas
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位于巴哈马群岛的一片美丽而且清澈见底的沙洲附近,
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which are just east of Florida.
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就在佛罗里达州以东的位置。
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And they spend their daytime resting and socializing
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他们白天在浅水域的安全地带
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in the safety of the shallows, but at night,
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休息嬉戏,但到了晚上,
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they go off the edge and hunt in deep water.
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它们会离开哪儿去深海捕食。
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Now, it's not a bad place to be a researcher, either.
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那个地方对于研究员来说也不错。
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So we go out for about five months every summer
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我们每年夏天都会去那儿待上5个月,
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in a 20-meter catamaran, and we live, sleep and work
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在一艘20米长的双体游艇里,我们生活、睡觉、工作,
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at sea for weeks at a time.
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那样每次在海上呆上几个星期。
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My main tool is an underwater video with a hydrophone,
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我的主要工具是一台配有水听器的摄像机,
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which is an underwater microphone, and this is so
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水听器就是水下麦克风,
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I can correlate sound and behavior.
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以便我将声音和行为关联起来。
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And most of our work's pretty non-invasive.
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我们大部分的工作都没有什么入侵性。
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We try to follow dolphin etiquette while we're in the water,
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我们在水中遵循着海豚的礼节,
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since we're actually observing them physically in the water.
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因为我们实际上是在水中亲身观察他们。
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Now, Atlantic spotted dolphins are a really nice species
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大西洋花斑海豚真的很适合做我们的研究对象,
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to work with for a couple of reasons.
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原因如下。
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They're born without spots, and they get spots with age,
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它们出生的时候没有斑点,斑点会随年龄增长而显现
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and they go through pretty distinct developmental phases,
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他们会经历一段段蛮独特的发育阶段,
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so that's fun to track their behavior.
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所以,跟踪记录它们的行为是件很有意思的事。
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And by about the age of 15, they're fully spotted black and white.
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到了大概15岁的时候,它们全身会布满黑白斑点,
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Now the mother you see here is Mugsy.
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你们现在看到的这位海豚妈妈叫玛格茜。
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She's 35 years old in this shot,
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画面里是她35岁时的模样,
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but dolphins can actually live into their early 50s.
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但海豚们其实能活到50多岁。
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And like all the dolphins in our community,
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就像我们这群海豚里所有成员一样,
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we photographed Mugsy and tracked her little spots
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在玛格茜的成长岁月里,
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and nicks in her dorsal fin,
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我们拍摄并跟踪记录了她的小点点
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and also the unique spot patterns
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和她背鳍上的凹痕,
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as she matured over time.
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还有一些很特别的斑纹。
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Now, young dolphins learn a lot as they're growing up,
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年轻海豚在它们的成长过程中要学习很多本领,
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and they use their teenage years to practice social skills,
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它们在青春期要练习社交技巧,
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and at about the age of nine, the females
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雌性海豚在9岁左右,
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become sexually mature, so they can get pregnant,
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进入生理成熟阶段,就会有生育能力,
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and the males mature quite a bit later,
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雄性海豚成熟期会稍微晚一点,
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at around 15 years of age.
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大约在15岁的时候。
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And dolphins are very promiscuous,
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海豚的交配是很混杂的,
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and so we have to determine who the fathers are,
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所以我们必须判断谁是海豚爸爸。
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so we do paternity tests by collecting fecal material
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亲子鉴定的方法是:先从水中收集排泄物,
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out of the water and extracting DNA.
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然后从中提取DNA。
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So what that means is, after 28 years,
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也就是说,28年来,
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we are tracking three generations,
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我们追踪了三代海豚,
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including grandmothers and grandfathers.
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包括了海豚爷爷和海豚奶奶。
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Now, dolphins are natural acousticians.
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海豚是天生的声学家。
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They make sounds 10 times as high
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它们发声的音量是人类的10倍,
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and hear sounds 10 times as high as we do.
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它们的听觉也是人类的10倍。
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But they have other communication signals they use.
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但是它们还使用其他的沟通讯号,
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They have good vision, so they use body postures to communicate.
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它们有良好的视觉,所以它们会用肢体语言进行沟通。
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They have taste, not smell.
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它们有味觉,但是没有嗅觉。
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And they have touch.
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它们也有触觉。
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And sound can actually be felt in the water,
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声音其实能够在水中被感觉到,
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because the acoustic impedance of tissue and water's about the same.
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因为它们的组织的声抗和水的声抗差不多相同,
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So dolphins can buzz and tickle each other at a distance.
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所以,海豚们可以在一定距离内相互呼叫和挠痒。
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Now, we do know some things about how sounds are used
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我们的确知道一些关于声音是如何
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with certain behaviors.
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与特定行为一起使用的信息。
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Now, the signature whistle is a whistle
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这种具有鲜明特征的哨声是
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that's specific to an individual dolphin, and it's like a name. (Dolphin whistling noises)
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每一只海豚所特有的,就好像是它们的名字。(海豚的哨声)
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And this is the best-studied sound,
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而且这是研究得最为透彻的声音,
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because it's easy to measure, really,
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因为它容易测量,真的,
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and you'd find this whistle when mothers and calves
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比如说,当海豚母子重逢的时候,
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are reuniting, for example.
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你就能听到这种哨声。
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Another well studied sound are echolocation clicks.
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另一种研究得比较透彻的声音是回声定位的滴答声,
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This is the dolphin's sonar. (Dolphin echolocation noises)
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这是海豚的声纳。(海豚的回声定位声)
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And they use these clicks to hunt and feed.
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它们用这种滴答声来捕食。
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But they can also tightly pack these clicks together
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它们还可以把滴答声集中到一起
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into buzzes and use them socially.
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形成用于交往的呼叫声。
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For example, males will stimulate a female
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比如,在求爱的过程中,
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during a courtship chase.
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雄性海豚会向雌性海豚“发波”。
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You know, I've been buzzed in the water.
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知道吗?我在水中被波到过。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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Don't tell anyone. It's a secret.
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别告诉任何人,这是我们之间的小秘密。
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And you can really feel the sound. That was my point with that.
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我想说的是,你真的能感觉到那声音。
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(Laughter)
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(笑声)
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So dolphins are also political animals,
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海豚们也搞政治,
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so they have to resolve conflicts.
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所以它们必须解决纷争。
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(Dolphin noises)
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(海豚声)
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And they use these burst-pulsed sounds as well as
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在它们争执的时候,它们发出这种爆破声
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their head-to-head behaviors when they're fighting.
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而且会有头对头的行为,
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And these are very unstudied sounds
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这些是没有研究过的声音,
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because they're hard to measure.
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因为测量它们的难度很大,
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Now this is some video of a typical dolphin fight.
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这些是典型的海豚争执的视频,
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(Dolphin noises)
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(海豚声)
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So you're going to see two groups,
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你们会看到两组海豚,
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and you're going to see the head-to-head posturing,
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会看到他们头对头的架势,
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some open mouths,
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有些张着嘴,
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lots of squawking.
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有很多唧唧喳喳的声音。
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There's a bubble.
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那有个泡泡,
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And basically, one of these groups will kind of back off
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简单说,其中一组会撤退,
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and everything will resolve fine,
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问题就这样迎刃而解,
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and it doesn't really escalate into violence too much.
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这种情况不会升级为暴力相向的局面。
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Now, in the Bahamas, we also have resident bottlenose
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在巴哈马群岛,我们还发现了宽吻海豚
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that interact socially with the spotted dolphins.
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会和花斑海豚交往。
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For example, they babysit each other's calves.
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比如,它们会互相照顾对方的幼仔。
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The males have dominance displays that they use
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雄海豚追逐对方的女伴时,
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when they're chasing each other's females.
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会表现出强势的一面。
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And the two species actually form temporary alliances
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而当这两种海豚驱赶鲨鱼的时候,
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when they're chasing sharks away.
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它们会其实会组成暂时的联盟。
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And one of the mechanisms they use to communicate
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它们为协调而运用的沟通机理之一
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their coordination is synchrony.
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是同步。
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They synchronize their sounds and their body postures
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它们同步它们的声音和姿势,
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to look bigger and sound stronger.
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以便造成更大阵势和声势。
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(Dolphins noises)
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(海豚声)
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Now, these are bottlenose dolphins,
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这些是宽吻海豚,
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and you'll see them starting to synchronize
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你看,它们开始同步
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their behavior and their sounds.
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它们的行为和声音。
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(Dolphin noises)
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(海豚声)
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You see, they're synchronizing with their partner
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你看,它们正在和它们的伙伴同步
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as well as the other dyad.
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还有进行其他二分体。
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I wish I was that coordinated.
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但愿我能有那么的协调。
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Now, it's important to remember that you're only hearing
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不过,别忘了你只听到了
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the human-audible parts of dolphin sounds,
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人类能听到的那部分海豚声,
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and dolphins make ultrasonic sounds,
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海豚们还会发出超声波,
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and we use special equipment in the water
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我们在水中利用特殊器材
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to collect these sounds.
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采集这些声音。
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Now, researchers have actually measured whistle complexity
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研究员们其实已经利用信息原理
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using information theory,
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测量了口哨声的复杂度,
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and whistles rate very high relative to even human languages.
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这些口哨声的复杂度之高甚至能和人类语言相媲美。
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But burst-pulsed sounds is a bit of a mystery.
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不过突发脉冲音有点神秘。
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Now, these are three spectragrams.
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这儿有三张声谱图。
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Two are human words, and one is a dolphin vocalizing.
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两张是人类的词汇,一张是海豚的发声。
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So just take a guess in your mind which one is the dolphin.
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猜一猜,哪张是海豚的。
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Now, it turns out burst-pulsed sounds actually look
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突发脉冲音倒看起来
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a bit like human phonemes.
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有点像人类的音位。
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Now, one way to crack the code
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破译代码的一种方法
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is to interpret these signals and figure out what they mean,
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是翻译这些讯号,并得出它们的意思,
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but it's a difficult job, and we actually don't have a Rosetta Stone yet.
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这项工作很困难,而我们没有罗塞塔石碑。
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But a second way to crack the code
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第二种破译代码的方法
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is to develop some technology,
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是研发出一些技术,
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an interface to do two-way communication,
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一个进行双向沟通的界面平台,
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and that's what we've been trying to do in the Bahamas
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这就是我们在巴哈马群岛在尝试的事情。
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and in real time.
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在现实中。
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Now, scientists have used keyboard interfaces
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现在,科学家们利用键盘
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to try to bridge the gap with species
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来连接两个物种之间的差别
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including chimpanzees and dolphins.
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包括大猩猩和海豚。
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This underwater keyboard in Orlando, Florida,
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这个水下的键盘在佛罗里达的奥兰多,
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at the Epcot Center, was actually
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在EPCOT中心,
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the most sophisticated ever two-way interface designed
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设计了至今最精致的双向沟通界面平台
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for humans and dolphins to work together under the water
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为了人类和海豚能在水中一起工作
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and exchange information.
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交换信息。
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So we wanted to develop an interface like this
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所以我们想建立这么一个界面
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in the Bahamas, but in a more natural setting.
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在巴哈马群岛,一个更加自然的环境里。
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And one of the reasons we thought we could do this
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我们之所以认为我们可以做到,其中一个原因是
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is because the dolphins were starting to show us
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海豚开始向我们展示
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a lot of mutual curiosity.
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它们对我们也感到好奇。
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They were spontaneously mimicking our vocalizations
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它们不由自主的模仿我们的声音
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and our postures, and they were also inviting us
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我们的姿势,它们甚至邀请我们
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into dolphin games.
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参与它们的游戏。
07:32
Now, dolphins are social mammals, so they love to play,
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现在,海豚们是社交类哺乳动物,所以它们热爱玩耍,
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and one of their favorite games is to drag seaweed,
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它们最喜欢的游戏之一是拖拽海带,
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or sargassum in this case, around.
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或者是海藻,转圈。
07:42
And they're very adept. They like to drag it
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而且它们很熟练。它们喜欢拖拽这些东西
07:44
and drop it from appendage to appendage.
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然后丢在身体的某些部位。
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Now in this footage, the adult is Caroh.
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在这段录像中的成年海豚叫Caroh。
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She's 25 years old here, and this is her newborn, Cobalt,
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它这时25岁,这是它的幼崽,Cobalt,
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and he's just learning how to play this game.
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幼崽刚刚学会怎么玩这个游戏。
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(Dolphin noises)
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(海豚声)
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She's kind of teasing him and taunting him.
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它在和孩子嬉戏。
08:03
He really wants that sargassum.
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幼崽真的很想要那些海藻。
08:08
Now, when dolphins solicit humans for this game,
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当海豚们邀请人类加入游戏的时候,
08:11
they'll often sink vertically in the water,
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它们会垂直于水中,
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and they'll have a little sargassum on their flipper,
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这样就会有海藻留在它们的蹼上,
08:16
and they'll sort of nudge it and drop it sometimes
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然后它们有时会抖一抖蹼,把海藻丢下,
08:19
on the bottom and let us go get it,
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让我们人类去拿,
08:20
and then we'll have a little seaweed keep away game.
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接下来我们会玩一个藏海带游戏。
08:23
But when we don't dive down and get it,
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但是,当我们不潜水下去拿水藻的时候,
08:24
they'll bring it to the surface
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它们会自己去捡起来带到水面
08:26
and they'll sort of wave it in front of us on their tail
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然后它们的会用它们的尾巴向我们挥舞海藻
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and drop it for us like they do their calves,
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丢给我们,就像它们对待幼崽一样,
08:32
and then we'll pick it up and have a game.
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我们接下来便去捡起来,和它们玩一场游戏。
08:34
And so we started thinking, well, wouldn't it be neat
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我们开始思索一件很棒的事情。
08:36
to build some technology that would allow the dolphins
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开发一种技术,可以让海豚们在现实生活中
08:39
to request these things in real time, their favorite toys?
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索要这些东西,它们最爱的玩具?
08:42
So the original vision was to have a keyboard
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所以,最早的设想是有一个键盘
08:45
hanging from the boat attached to a computer,
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挂在船上,和电脑连接,
08:47
and the divers and dolphins would activate the keys
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然后潜水员们和海豚们可以用键盘上的键
08:49
on the keypad and happily exchange information
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来互相交换信息
08:52
and request toys from each other.
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然后向对方索要玩具。
08:54
But we quickly found out that dolphins simply
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但是我们马上就发现,
08:56
were not going to hang around the boat using a keyboard.
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海豚们并不会在船边用键盘。
08:59
They've got better things to do in the wild.
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它们在野外有更值得做的事情。
09:02
They might do it in captivity, but in the wild --
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人工饲养的时候,可能会,但是在野外--
09:04
So we built a portable keyboard that we could push through the water,
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所以我们开发了一个可以在水中工作的移动键盘
09:06
and we labeled four objects they like to play with,
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然后我们在上面标注了四种它们喜欢的玩具,
09:09
the scarf, rope, sargassum, and also had a bow ride,
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围巾,绳索,海藻以及一个“bow ride”
09:12
which is a fun activity for a dolphin. (Whistle)
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对海豚来说,很好玩。(口哨声)
09:14
And that's the scarf whistle,
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刚刚那个是围巾口哨声,
09:16
which is also associated with a visual symbol.
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和一个视觉的符号联系了起来。
09:19
And these are artificially created whistles.
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这些是人工的口哨声。
09:21
They're outside the dolphin's normal repertoire,
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它们是在海豚们的能力范围以外,
09:24
but they're easily mimicked by the dolphins.
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但是海豚们很快就学会了。
09:26
And I spent four years with my colleagues Adam Pack and Fabienne Delfour,
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我和我的同事们Adam Pack, 还有 Fabienne Delfour花了四年,
09:31
working out in the field with this keyboard
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带着这个键盘工作
09:33
using it with each other to do requests for toys
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我们用它来互相索要玩具
09:35
while the dolphins were watching.
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而海豚们会在看。
09:37
And the dolphins could get in on the game.
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然后海豚们会加入到游戏中。
09:38
They could point at the visual object,
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它们指向任何一个指标,
09:40
or they could mimic the whistle.
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或者它们模仿口哨声。
09:43
Now this is video of a session.
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这是一个游戏的视频。
09:46
The diver here has a rope toy,
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潜水员有绳索玩具,
09:48
and I'm on the keyboard on the left,
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我在左边,操作键盘,
09:51
and I've just played the rope key,
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然后我按了标注为绳索的键,
09:53
and that's the request for the toy from the human.
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代表我们人类想要绳索玩具。
09:57
So I've got the rope, I'm diving down,
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我拿着绳索,潜水了,
10:00
and I'm basically trying to get the dolphin's attention,
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我想让海豚们注意到我,
10:02
because they're kind of like little kids.
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因为它们像小孩。
10:03
You have to keep their attention.
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你必须要让它们关注你,
10:06
I'm going to drop the rope, see if they come over.
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我把绳索丢下,看看它们会不会来。
10:11
Here they come,
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它们来了,
10:13
and then they're going to pick up the rope
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它们会把绳索捡起来
10:15
and drag it around as a toy.
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然后向它是一个玩具一样拖拽绳索。
10:16
Now, I'm at the keyboard on the left,
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我在左边,操作键盘,
10:18
and this is actually the first time that we tried this.
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这是我们第一次做这样的尝试,
10:20
I'm going to try to request this toy, the rope toy,
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我将要索要绳索玩具,
10:23
from the dolphins using the rope sound.
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通过按下代表绳索的键,从海豚那里索要。
10:26
Let's see if they might actually understand what that means.
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我们来看看,它们是不是会领会到这个指令,
10:31
(Whistle)
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(口哨声)
10:32
That's the rope whistle.
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刚刚那个是绳索口哨声。
10:35
Up come the dolphins,
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海豚们来了,
10:36
and drop off the rope, yay. Wow.
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然后丢下了绳索,耶。天呐。
10:40
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
10:43
So this is only once.
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这只是一次。
10:45
We don't know for sure if they really understand the function of the whistles.
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我们不确定它们是否真的领会这些口哨声的意思
10:48
Okay, so here's a second toy in the water.
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好的,水里有另一件玩具。
10:50
This is a scarf toy, and I'm trying to lead the dolphin
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这是一件围巾玩具,我会尝试引一只海豚过来
10:52
over to the keyboard to show her
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到键盘这边来,然后给它展示
10:54
the visual and the acoustic signal.
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这个视觉和声音的讯号。
10:57
Now this dolphin, we call her "the scarf thief,"
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现在我们把这只海豚叫做“围巾小偷”,
11:00
because over the years she's absconded
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因为这些年,
11:04
with about 12 scarves.
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她偷走了12条围巾。
11:07
In fact, we think she has a boutique somewhere in the Bahamas.
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事实上,我们觉得它在巴哈马群岛的某处开了个铺子卖围巾。
11:10
So I'm reaching over. She's got the scarf on her right side.
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我现在在慢慢接近。它拿到了围巾。
11:14
And we try to not touch the animals too much,
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我们尽量不碰触它们,
11:16
we really don't want to over-habituate them.
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我们不想让它们过于习惯,
11:18
And I'm trying to lead her back to the keyboard.
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我们尝试着引导它们回到键盘前。
11:20
And the diver there is going to activate the scarf sound
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潜水员会去按那个代表围巾的键,
11:24
to request the scarf.
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来索要围巾。
11:26
So I try to give her the scarf.
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我把围巾给它,
11:29
Whoop. Almost lost it.
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哎呀,差点掉了。
11:32
But this is the moment where everything becomes possible.
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但是这是一切都将变为可能的一刻。
11:34
The dolphin's at the keyboard.
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海豚们在键盘旁。
11:36
You've got full attention.
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你得到了它们的全力关注。
11:38
And this sometimes went on for hours.
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有时候,这会持续好几个小时。
11:40
And I wanted to share this video with you
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我想和你们分享这个视频
11:41
not to show you any big breakthroughs,
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不是想展示这是多大的一个突破,
11:43
because they haven't happened yet,
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因为还没有发生,
11:44
but to show you the level of intention and focus
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而是展示给你们看其中的意图和中心
11:47
that these dolphins have, and interest in the system.
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那就是,海豚们对这个系统感兴趣。
11:50
And because of this, we really decided we needed
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因为这个,我们决定我们需要
11:52
some more sophisticated technology.
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一些更加精细的技术。
11:54
So we joined forces with Georgia Tech,
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所以我们和乔治亚技术Gerogia Tech合作了,
11:56
with Thad Starner's wearable computing group,
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采用Thad Starner的可佩带电脑,
11:59
to build us an underwater wearable computer
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来开发可以在水中佩带的电脑
12:01
that we're calling CHAT. [CHAT: Cetacean Hearing And Telemetry]
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我们称之为 CHAT (鲸目动物听觉遥测技术)
12:02
Now, instead of pushing a keyboard through the water,
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现在不再是把键盘推入水中,
12:04
the diver's wearing the complete system, and it's acoustic only,
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而是潜水员佩带电脑系统潜水,只有声音,
12:08
so basically the diver activates the sounds on a keypad
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简单来说,潜水员放一个声音,
12:11
on the forearm,
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在手臂上,
12:12
the sounds go out through an underwater speaker,
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声音通过水下的音响发出,
12:14
if a dolphin mimics the whistle
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如果海豚模仿这个口哨声
12:16
or a human plays the whistle, the sounds come in
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或者人类播放这个口哨声,声音会出来,
12:18
and are localized by two hydrophones.
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通过两个水中听音器。
12:21
The computer can localize who requested the toy
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电脑可以定位是谁索要玩具
12:24
if there's a word match.
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如果有一个匹配。
12:26
And the real power of the system is in the real-time
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这个系统的真正作用在是,实时的声音识别
12:29
sound recognition, so we can respond to the dolphins
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所以我们可以回复海豚
12:31
quickly and accurately.
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很迅速的,很准确的。
12:33
And we're at prototype stage, but this is how we hope it will play out.
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我们现在还在原型建立的阶段,我们希望成果也是这样。
12:37
So Diver A and Diver B both have a wearable computer
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潜水员A和B都佩带了电脑
12:40
and the dolphin hears the whistle as a whistle,
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海豚听到的口哨声就是口哨声,
12:43
the diver hears the whistle as a whistle in the water,
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潜水员在水中听到的口哨声,也就是一模一样的口哨声
12:45
but also as a word through bone conduction.
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也还是一个词语,通过骨骼传导。
12:48
So Diver A plays the scarf whistle
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潜水员A播放了围巾口哨声
12:50
or Diver B plays the sargassum whistle
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潜水员B播放了海藻口哨声
12:52
to request a toy from whoever has it.
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从拥有人手中索要。
12:54
What we hope will happen is that the dolphin mimics the whistle,
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我们希望看到的是海豚模仿口哨声
12:58
and if Diver A has the sargassum, if that's the sound
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如果潜水员A有海藻,
13:01
that was played and requested,
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如果播放的是海藻声,
13:04
then the diver will give the sargassum to the requesting dolphin
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然后潜水员会把海藻给索要的海豚
13:07
and they'll swim away happily into the sunset
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然后它们会开开心心的在夕阳中渐行渐远
13:09
playing sargassum for forever.
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永远的把玩海藻。
13:12
Now, how far can this kind of communication go?
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这样的沟通方式还能做到什么呢?
13:16
Well, CHAT is designed specifically to empower the dolphins
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CHAT是用来帮助海豚们
13:20
to request things from us.
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向我们索要东西的。
13:21
It's designed to really be two-way.
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它是双向的。
13:24
Now, will they learn to mimic the whistles functionally?
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它们会不会很好的模仿口哨声?
13:27
We hope so and we think so.
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我们希望可以,我们也相信它们可以。
13:29
But as we decode their natural sounds,
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但是当我们破译了它们自然的声音时,
13:31
we're also planning to put those back into the computerized system.
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我们也计划着把这些声音植入到我们的系统中
13:35
For example, right now we can put their own signature whistles
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例如,现在我们可以把它们的标志性口哨声
13:38
in the computer and request to interact with a specific dolphin.
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植入到电脑中,然后邀请特定的一只海豚进行互动。
13:42
Likewise, we can create our own whistles,
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相同的,我们可以创造我们自己的口哨声,
13:46
our own whistle names, and let the dolphins
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我们自己的口哨声名,然后让海豚们
13:48
request specific divers to interact with.
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邀请特定的潜水员和它们互动。
13:51
Now it may be that all our mobile technology
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我们的移动技术可能
13:54
will actually be the same technology that helps us
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会是同一种技术,帮助我们
13:57
communicate with another species down the road.
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和另外一种物种沟通。
14:00
In the case of a dolphin, you know, it's a species that,
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以海豚为例,它们这种物种,
14:04
well, they're probably close to our intelligence in many ways
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它们的智力在很多方面和我们都相向,
14:07
and we might not be able to admit that right now,
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虽然我们可能不承认,
14:10
but they live in quite a different environment,
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但是它们生活在不同的环境中,
14:12
and you still have to bridge the gap with the sensory systems.
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我们必须通过一些感知系统来错短距离。
14:16
I mean, imagine what it would be like
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我的意思是,想象一下
14:18
to really understand the mind
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会是怎么一副景象
14:19
of another intelligent species on the planet.
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如果我们能够了解另一个物种,并和它们沟通。
14:23
Thank you.
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谢谢你们。
14:25
(Applause)
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(鼓掌)
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