Lucien Engelen: Crowdsource your health

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μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

λ²ˆμ—­: Kyo young Chu κ²€ν† : Young-ho Park
00:15
I would like to talk to you about why many ehealth projects fail.
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μ €λŠ” μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„κ»˜ μ™œ λ§Žμ€ e-health ν”„λ‘œμ νŠΈκ°€
μ‹€νŒ¨ν•˜λŠ”μ§€ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬λ €κ³  ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:20
And I really think that the most important thing of it
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κ·Έ 이유 쀑 κ°€μž₯ μ€‘μš”ν•œ 것은 μš°λ¦¬κ°€
00:22
is that we stopped listening to patients.
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더이상 ν™˜μžμ˜ 말을 κ·€λ‹΄μ•„ 듣지 μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€λŠ” κ±°μ£ .
00:25
And one thing we did at Radboud University
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저희가 λΌλ“œλ°”μš°λ“œ λŒ€ν•™κ΅μ—μ„œ ν–ˆλ˜ 일 μ€‘μ˜ ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ”
00:27
is we appointed a Chief Listening Officer.
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졜고 경청자(chief listening officer)λ₯Ό 지λͺ…ν–ˆλ˜ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:29
Not in a very scientific way --
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μ•„μ£Ό 과학적인 방법은 μ•„λ‹ˆμ—ˆμ§€λ§Œ-
00:31
she puts up a little cup of coffee or a cup of tea
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κ·Έλ…€λŠ” μ»€ν”Όλ‚˜ μ°¨λ₯Ό ν•œ μž” λ”°λΌμ„œ
00:34
and asks patients, family, relatives,
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ν™˜μžμ™€ κ°€μ‘±, μΉœμ²™λ“€μ—κ²Œ 이런 μ§ˆλ¬Έμ„ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€
"무슨 μΌμ΄μ„Έμš”?
00:37
"What's up?
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00:38
How could we help you?"
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μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ„μ™€λ“œλ¦΄κΉŒμš”?"
00:40
And we think, we like to think,
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μ €ν¬λŠ” 이것이 λͺ¨λ“ , λͺ¨λ‘λŠ” μ•„λ‹ˆκ² μ§€λ§Œ,
00:42
that this is one of the major problems
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λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ˜ e-health ν”„λ‘œμ νŠΈκ°€ μ‹€νŒ¨ν•˜λŠ”
00:44
why all -- maybe not all --
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주된 이유 μ€‘μ˜ ν•˜λ‚˜λΌκ³ 
00:46
but most of the ehealth projects fail,
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μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:48
since we stopped listening.
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ν™˜μžμ˜ 말을 듣지 μ•ŠκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄μ£ .
00:50
This is my weight scale.
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이건 제 WiFi 체쀑계인데, μ•„μ£Ό κ°„λ‹¨ν•œ μž₯λΉ„μ£ .
00:52
It's a very simple thing. It's got one knob, on/off.
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ν‚€κ³  λ„λŠ” μŠ€μœ„μΉ˜ ν•˜λ‚˜λ§Œ 있죠.
μ €λŠ” 맀일 μ•„μΉ¨ μ €μšΈμ— μ˜€λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€
00:55
And every morning I hop on it.
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또 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„λ“€κ»˜μ„œ λ³΄μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό,
00:58
And yes, I've got a challenge,
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μ „ 체쀑 λ¬Έμ œκ°€ 있죠.
01:00
as you might see.
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01:01
And I put my challenge on 95 kg.
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제 λͺ©ν‘œλŠ” 95kg 이죠.
01:04
But the thing is that it's made this simple
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 이λ₯Ό μ‰½κ²Œ λ§Œλ“  것은
01:07
that whenever I hop on,
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μ œκ°€ μ €μšΈμ— 였λ₯Ό λ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€
01:09
it sends my data to Google Health as well.
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Google Health에도 이 자료λ₯Ό λ³΄λ‚Έλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
01:12
And it's collected by my general practitioner as well,
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그리고 제 κ°€μ •μ˜μ—κ²Œλ„ λ³΄λ‚΄μ§€μš”.
01:15
so he can see what's my problem in weight,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ œκ°€ 심μž₯ 계톡 λ“±μ—μ„œ 도움이 ν•„μš”ν•˜λ©΄
01:19
not on the very moment that I need cardiologic support
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λ°”λ‘œ κ·Έ μˆœκ°„ 뿐만 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
돌이켜 λ³΄λ©΄μ„œ 제 λͺΈλ¬΄κ²Œμ—μ„œ
01:22
or something like it,
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01:24
but also looking backward.
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뭐가 λ¬Έμ œμΈμ§€ μ•Œ 수 있죠.
01:26
But there's another thing.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ ν•œ 가지가 더 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:28
As some of you might know,
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μ•„μ‹œλŠ” 뢄이 μžˆμ„μ§€ λͺ¨λ₯΄μ§€λ§Œ, μ „ νŠΈμœ„ν„°μ— 4000λͺ… μ΄μƒμ˜ νŒ”λ‘œμ›Œκ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
01:29
I've got more than 4000 followers on Twitter.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 맀일 μ•„μΉ¨
01:32
So every morning, I hop on my weight scale
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μ œκ°€ WiFi 체쀑계에 μ˜¬λΌκ°€λ©΄,
01:35
and before I'm in my car,
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μ œκ°€ 차에 타기도 전에 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 제게
01:37
people start talking to me,
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"λ£¨μ‹œμ—”, 였늘 점심은 κ°€λ³κ²Œ λ¨ΉλŠ”κ²Œ μ’‹κ² μ–΄"라고 λ§ν•˜μ£ .
01:38
"I think you need a light lunch today, Lucien."
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(μ›ƒμŒ)
01:40
(Laughter)
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01:41
But that's the nicest thing that could happen,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 이건 λ™λ£Œ μ••λ ₯이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
01:43
since this is peer pressure.
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λ‹€λ₯Έ μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ μ••λ ₯λ³΄λ‹€λŠ” 훨씬 λ‚«μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
01:45
Peer pressure used to help patients --
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λ™λ£Œ μ••λ ₯은
λΉ„λ§Œμ—λ„ μ‚¬μš©λ  수 있고
01:49
since this could be used for obesity,
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λ‹΄λ°°λ₯Ό λŠλ„λ‘ μž₯λ €ν•˜λŠ”λ°λ„
01:51
it could be used to stop patients from smoking.
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이용될 수 μžˆμ§€μš”.
01:54
But on the other hand,
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이것은 λ˜ν•œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 의자λ₯Ό λ²—μ–΄λ‚˜μ„œ
01:56
it also could be used to get people out of their chairs
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κ·Έλ“€μ˜ 건강관리λ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄ 더 λ§Žμ€ μ±…μž„μ„
01:59
and try to work together in some kind of gaming activity
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질 수 있게 ν•˜λŠ” μΌμ’…μ˜ κ²Œμž„ ν™œλ™μ„
같이 ν•  수 있게 도와쀄 μˆ˜λ„ 있죠.
02:03
to get more control of their health.
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02:05
As of next week, it will soon be available,
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이건 λ‹€μŒμ£Όμ— μ‹œνŒλ 
02:08
there will be this little blood-pressure meter
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ν˜ˆμ•• 츑정기인데
02:10
connected to an iPhone or something or other.
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iPhoneμ΄λ‚˜ λ­”κ°€ ν•˜λŠ”κ²ƒμ— μ—°κ²°λ˜μ§€μš”.
02:13
And people will be able, from their homes,
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이 κΈ°κ³„λŠ” 100λ‹¬λŸ¬κ°€ μ’€ λ„˜λŠ”λ°
μ§‘μ—μ„œ ν˜ˆμ••μ„ μΈ‘μ •ν•˜κ³ ,
02:16
to take their blood pressure,
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κ·Έ μΈ‘μ •μΉ˜λ₯Ό κ°€μ •μ˜μ—κ²Œ 보내고
02:18
send it to their doctor
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02:19
and eventually share it with others, for instance,
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ν›„μ—λŠ” λ‹€λ₯Έ μ‚¬λžŒμ—κ²Œλ„
02:22
for over a 100 dollars.
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데이터λ₯Ό 보낼 수 있게 λ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:24
And this is the point where patients get into position
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그리고 이 μ‹œμ μ—μ„œ ν™˜μžκ°€
02:27
and can collect, not only their own control again,
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κ·Έλ“€μ˜ 건강관리에 μ±…μž„μ„ 지고
02:30
be captain of their own ship,
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μžμ‹ μ˜ 배에 μ„ μž₯이 될 λΏλ§Œμ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
02:32
but also can help us in health care
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보건 λΉ„μš©μ˜ 폭발적인 μ¦κ°€λ‚˜
02:34
due to the challenges that we face,
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두 배둜 λŠ˜μ–΄λ‚œ μˆ˜μš” λ“±κ³Ό 같은
02:36
like health-care cost explosion,
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ§λ©΄ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” 과제λ₯Ό
02:39
doubled demand and things like that,
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ν•΄κ²°ν•˜λŠ”λ° 도움을 쀄 수 μžˆμ§€μš”.
02:41
make techniques that are easy to use
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μ‚¬μš©ν•˜κΈ° μ‰¬μš΄ κΈ°μˆ λ“€μ„ λ§Œλ“€κ³ ,
02:43
and start with this to embrace patients in the team.
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νŒ€ μ•ˆμ—μ„œ ν™˜μžλ₯Ό ν¬μš©ν•˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν•˜μž.
μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 이것을 이와같은 κΈ°μˆ μ„ 톡해 ν•  수 μžˆμ§€λ§Œ,
02:47
And you can do this with techniques like this,
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ν¬λΌμš°λ“œμ†Œμ‹±μœΌλ‘œλ„ ν•  수 μžˆμ§€μš”.
02:49
but also by crowdsourcing.
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짧은 μ˜μƒμ„ 톡해 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„λ“€κ»˜
02:51
And one of the things we did,
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that I would like to share with you introduced by a little video.
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저희가 ν•œ 일을 λ³΄μ—¬λ“œλ¦¬κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
(μŒμ•…)
02:56
(Music)
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04:04
(Heart-beat)
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λͺ¨λ‘ 차에 λ„€λΉ„κ²Œμ΄μ…˜μ΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
04:08
We've all got navigation controls in our car.
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μ–΄μ©Œλ©΄ νœ΄λŒ€ν°μ—λ„ μžˆμ„μ§€ λͺ¨λ₯΄μ£ .
04:11
We maybe even have it in our cellphone.
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04:13
We perfectly know where all the ATMs are,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λ§ˆμŠ€νŠΈλ¦¬ννŠΈμ‹œμ— ATM이
μ–΄λ””μžˆλŠ”μ§€ ν™•μ‹€νžˆ μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
04:16
just about the city of Maastricht.
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04:17
The other thing is we know where all the gas stations are.
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또 μ£Όμœ μ†Œκ°€ 어디에 μžˆλŠ”μ§€λ„ μ•Œκ³  있죠
그리고 λ¬Όλ‘  νŒ¨μŠ€νŠΈν‘Έλ“œ κ°€κ²Œκ°€ μ–΄λ””μžˆλŠ”μ§€ 찾을 수 있죠
04:21
And sure, we could find fast food chains.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 이 ν™˜μžμ—κ²Œ κ°€μž₯ κ°€κΉŒμš΄
04:24
But where would be the nearest AED to help this patient?
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μžλ™μ™ΈλΆ€μ œμ„Έλ™κΈ°(AED)λŠ” 어디에 μžˆμ„κΉŒμš”?
μ£Όλ³€ μ‚¬λžŒμ— λ¬Όμ–΄λ΄€μ§€λ§Œ 아무도 λͺ°λžμ£ .
04:28
We asked around, and nobody knew.
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04:30
Nobody knew where the nearest lifesaving AED
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κ·Έ λˆ„κ΅¬λ„ κ°€μž₯ κ°€κΉŒμš΄ 곳에 μžˆλŠ”
04:33
was to be obtained right now.
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생λͺ…을 κ΅¬ν•˜λŠ” AEDκ°€ 어디에 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ λͺ°λžμ£ .
04:35
So what we did, we crowdsourced the Netherlands.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €ν¬λŠ” λ„€λœλž€λ“œλ₯Ό ν¬λΌμš°λ“œμ†ŒμŠ€ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
μ €ν¬λŠ” μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈλ₯Ό λ§Œλ“€μ–΄μ„œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ
04:38
We set up a website, and asked the crowd,
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"AEDλ₯Ό λ³΄μ‹œλ©΄
04:41
"If you see an AED, please submit it,
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어디에 μžˆλŠ”μ§€, μ–Έμ œ μ—΄λ¦¬λŠ”μ§€
04:43
tell us where it is, tell us when it's open,"
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μ•Œλ €μ£Όμ„Έμš”"라고 λΆ€νƒν–ˆμ£ .
04:46
since sometimes in office hours it's closed, of course.
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μ–΄λ–€ λ•ŒλŠ” 사무싀이 μ—΄λ €μžˆκ³  μ–΄λ–€ λ•ŒλŠ” λ‹«ν˜€μžˆκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄μ£ .
λ„€λœλž€λ“œμ— μžˆλŠ” 10,000개 μ΄μƒμ˜ AEDκ°€
04:49
And over 10,000 AEDs in the Netherlands
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이미 μ œλ³΄λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:51
already have been submitted.
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04:52
The next step we took was to find the applications for it.
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κ·Έλ‹€μŒμ— 저희듀은 κ·Έ μ •λ³΄μ˜ μš©λ„λ₯Ό κ²°μ •ν•˜κ³ 
04:55
And we built an iPad application.
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iPad 앱을 λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆμ§€μš”.
04:57
We made an application for Layar: Augmented Reality,
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μ €ν¬λŠ” μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ AED듀을 찾을 수 μžˆλŠ” 앱을
05:00
to find these AEDs.
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Layer μ¦κ°•ν˜„μ‹€μ—μ„œ λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆμ§€μš”.
05:02
And whenever you are in a city like Maastricht,
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그리고 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ 마슀트리흐트 같은 λ„μ‹œμ— μžˆλŠ”λ°
05:05
and somebody collapses, you can use your iPhone,
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λˆ„κ°€ μ˜μ‹μ„ μžƒκ³  μ“°λŸ¬μ§€λ©΄ 아이폰을
05:07
and within the next weeks also your Microsoft cellphone,
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μ‚¬μš©ν•  수 있으며 λͺ‡μ£Όλ‚΄λ‘œ Microsoft νœ΄λŒ€ν°μœΌλ‘œλ„
생λͺ…을 ꡬ할 수 μžˆλŠ” 제일 κ°€κΉŒμš΄ AEDλ₯Ό μ°ΎλŠ”
05:11
to find the nearest AED,
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05:12
which can save lives.
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앱을 μ‚¬μš©ν•  수 μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:14
And as of today,
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그리고 μ˜€λŠ˜λΆ€ν„°
05:16
we would like to introduce this, not only as AED4EU,
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이것을 이 μ œν’ˆμ˜ 이름인
05:18
which is what the product is called,
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AED4U 뿐만이 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ,
05:20
but also AED4US.
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AED4USλ‘œμ„œλ„ μ†Œκ°œν•΄λ“œλ¦¬κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
05:22
And we would like to start this on a worldwide level.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λ˜ν•œ 이 앱을 μ „ 세계에 λ³΄κΈ‰ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:24
And ask all of our colleagues in the rest of the world,
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그리고 μ €ν¬λŠ” 전세계에 μžˆλŠ” 저희 λ™λ£Œλ“€κ³Ό
05:27
colleague universities, to help us
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λŒ€ν•™λ“€μ—κ²Œ μ „ 세계에 μžˆλŠ” λͺ¨λ“  AED듀을
05:29
to find and work and act like a hub
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ν¬λΌμš°λ“œ μ†Œμ‹±μ„ ν•˜λŠ” ν—ˆλΈŒ 역할을
05:32
to crowdsource all these AEDs all around the world,
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ν•΄ 달라고 λΆ€νƒν–ˆμ§€μš”.
05:35
that whenever you're on holiday and somebody collapses,
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그럼 νœ΄κ°€μ€‘μ— μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ˜ μΉœμ²™μ΄λ‚˜
05:38
might it be your own relative or someone just in front of you,
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λͺ¨λ₯΄λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ μ“°λŸ¬μ§€λ©΄
AEDλ₯Ό 찾을 수 있게 λ˜κ² μ§€μš”.
05:42
you can find this.
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05:43
The other thing we would like to ask
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저희듀은 λ˜ν•œ 세계 κ°μ§€μ˜
05:45
is of companies also all over the world
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νšŒμ‚¬λ“€μ΄ 이듀 AED의 μœ νš¨μ„±μ„
05:47
that will be able to help us validate these AEDs.
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인증해 쀄것을 λΆ€νƒλ“œλ¦¬κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:50
These might be courier services
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예λ₯Όλ“€λ©΄, 택배 λ°°λ‹¬μ›μ΄λ‚˜ TV 기사듀이
05:52
or cable guys, for instance,
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AED에 λŒ€ν•΄ 제좜된 정보가
05:54
just to see whether the AED that is submitted
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계속 μœ νš¨ν•œμ§€
05:56
is still in place.
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봐쀄 수 μžˆλƒλŠ” κ±°μ£ .
05:58
So please help us on this one
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‹ˆ λΆ€λ”” 저희λ₯Ό λ„μ™€μ£Όμ‹œκ³ ,
06:00
and try to make not only health a little bit better,
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건강을 μœ μ§€ν•˜μ‹€ λΏλ§Œμ•„λ‹ˆλΌ 건강관리에 μ±…μž„μ„ μ§€μ‹œκΈ° λ°”λžλ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:03
but take control of it.
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κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€
06:04
Thank you.
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06:05
(Applause)
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